Biggest Bible Contradictions: Evidence for the Bible pt20

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Mike Winger

Mike Winger

Күн бұрын

What Jesus just plain wrong? Was Mark confused? From the straw that broke Bart Ehrman's back to Mike Licona's hardest gospel contradiction this video examines and refutes supposed Bible contradictions. Watch to the end so that you don't miss the big picture and the main point behind supposed contradictions.
This video is #20 in the series "Evidence for the Bible", which is meant to take a person from complete skepticism to rational faith in the Bible as God's word.
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@gnitsaf
@gnitsaf 3 жыл бұрын
0:54 - #1 Does God Change 4:16 - #2 Is God good to all 7:47 - #3 Was Jesus in Despair or Confusion 16:54 - #4 Has anyone seen God 24:03 - #5 Do I bear my burden or others 25:26 - #6 Should I obey government or not 27:30 - #7 To kill or not to kill 30:22 - #8 - How old was Ahaziah when he became king 31:44 - #9 - How many stalls did Solomon have 36:07 - #10 - Did Paul's men hear a voice 39:47 - #11 - Who killed Saul 42:50 - #12 - Did Michal have children 45:18 - #13 - Where did they go after feeding 5000 51:48 - #14 - why is Matthew's genealogy incomplete 54:13 - #15 - which genealogy was right 56:58 - #16 - was Jesus wrong about the old testament
@LilGuy-hk5ro
@LilGuy-hk5ro 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing sir
@semadar856
@semadar856 3 жыл бұрын
CONTRADICTION!!! lol sn
@anabaird3835
@anabaird3835 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Very much!
@sckepticjesture
@sckepticjesture 2 жыл бұрын
"Face-to-face" literally means in person!
@MSHOOD123
@MSHOOD123 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. God bless you 🙏🏻
@JDinkel
@JDinkel 2 жыл бұрын
Just officially finished the entire 20 video series! It was so good, I watched 1-2 videos per day. Mike, thank you so much for taking the time to do the research and freely share this for people to watch. What a valuable resource. I was incredibly blessed by this series and learned a ton! I will likely go through the whole thing again in the future. God is so good!
@unsightedmetal6857
@unsightedmetal6857 Жыл бұрын
I just finished it too! I feel that it has strengthened my faith a whole lot. I'll probably rewatch the first two videos on Daniel because I didn't quite catch all of it the first time through.
@cameronhill8279
@cameronhill8279 Жыл бұрын
I just now finished it. I'd play the videos back to back while playing games. Amazing stuff.
@mkayl7
@mkayl7 Жыл бұрын
Just finished too! I'm new to faith (~2 months), previously an atheist dabbling in spirituality. I had my born again experience but struggled in my primarily secular environment with all of the accusations against the Bible. This series was a HUGE help in strengthening my faith! Thank you Mike for your meticulous and well presented delivery of all the information!
@DavidJohnAr
@DavidJohnAr Ай бұрын
Same
@DavidJohnAr
@DavidJohnAr Ай бұрын
@@mkayl7 I hope that you are still faithful
@KingStar-lu9oi
@KingStar-lu9oi 3 жыл бұрын
I just discovered this channel today.12-2-2020. And it's right on time. Praise God
@guidetv7379
@guidetv7379 3 жыл бұрын
Praise the lord...
@guidetv7379
@guidetv7379 3 жыл бұрын
Also see jay smith. Dr al garza
@itsnotthatserious9871
@itsnotthatserious9871 3 жыл бұрын
I’m here 6/22/21 and also right on time💕
@9000o-d9f
@9000o-d9f 2 жыл бұрын
The Bible or you read it all or you don't read it and the Bible is the word of God and the Bible must be read with the help of Jesus and the Holy Spirit
@ThefrenchFranz
@ThefrenchFranz Жыл бұрын
@@9000o-d9f _"The Bible or you read it all or you don't read it"_ : on which basis dare you make such a claim? What about those who can't read? The uneducated peasant in Afghanistan or the slave-like worker in N. Korea shouldn't be saved?
@EdKidgell
@EdKidgell 3 жыл бұрын
Bart Ehrman is living proof that knowledge does not equate to wisdom.
@justaguy6100
@justaguy6100 3 жыл бұрын
Thinking that IGNORING the glaring realities that Bart Ehrman spent decades acquiring the knowledge to make astute observations about, including learning ancient languages and having access to the earliest available copies (and that's all there is) of manuscripts, is wisdom... isn't. That might unclear to you. Bart Ehrman is imminently qualified for textual criticism of the bible, and no not everyone who does "textual criticism" is anti-religious. And neither is Dr. Ehrman. So trying to sound the least bit sharp by that statement is a face-plant into a "wish I was smarter" pie.
@EdKidgell
@EdKidgell 3 жыл бұрын
@Young Yoda English please!
@danielsparham
@danielsparham 3 жыл бұрын
@@justaguy6100 it doesnt take a a genius to read bart ehrman and realize that he gets a lot of things wrong or just blantantly ignores thing. He also writes with an extreme bias against Christianity so you have to take everything with a grain of salt
@justaguy6100
@justaguy6100 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielsparham Ok Mr Scholar let’s hear exactly what Ehrmann gets wrong. His scholarship is respected internationally, and even top apologists don’t dispute the scope of his knowledge. They will argue about the details, that’s what they do, but prove he’s wrong about any of his positions before you try and claim he gets a lot wrong. You obviously don’t like his conclusions but they’re grounded in sound scholarship.
@danielsparham
@danielsparham 3 жыл бұрын
@@justaguy6100 you clearly didnt watch the video when mike points out in clear terms why bart ehrmann makes false claims or even just avoids things because they don't fit his arguments
@RipRoarLB
@RipRoarLB 6 жыл бұрын
The death of Saul, I took the Amaleikite lied to David to try and take credit for Saul's death thinking he would be greatly rewarded. I never saw this as a contraction, I saw a kid trying to gain credability.
@lauraallen7755
@lauraallen7755 3 жыл бұрын
I thought maybe Saul looked dead to his armour bearer but wasn't quite dead. 🤔 either way though, no issue here.
@camillewilliams3185
@camillewilliams3185 Жыл бұрын
Same. The guy lied and paid for it with it his life because murdering Saul is not something David would've rewarded (unknown to the man)
@waitingandwatching9328
@waitingandwatching9328 4 жыл бұрын
Mar. 9th 2020 I am completing this series and I must tell you Mike I totally enjoyed it, you did an awesome job, I learnt quite a lot, may God continue to bless you in every area of your life.
@John14-6...
@John14-6... 3 жыл бұрын
You really have to wonder about someone who isn't content with just being an athiest or a skeptic but instead dedicate their lives to try destroying the faith of others
@somethingrandomyt8367
@somethingrandomyt8367 7 ай бұрын
Faith is trust so if an atheist is destroying someone trust they probably didn't have much trust to start with
@LuisMonsanto-eq3sd
@LuisMonsanto-eq3sd 6 ай бұрын
Is it destroying faith that results from biblical psychosis or liberating souls from spiritual enslavement????
@theotheoth
@theotheoth 5 ай бұрын
Do you also wonder about a couple of 'christians' who I met and conversed with at a church Alpha course but have since pretended not to see me when I say hello to them passing in the street? Do you wonder about the christian who has informed me that the Devil is in my house because I do yoga to keep fit? (I could give a few dozen similar examples of christian activities in my neighbourhood.)
@Albertanator
@Albertanator 3 ай бұрын
@@theotheoth Yoga is very dangerous my friend....regardless of the behavior of these local Christians, you are allowing a doorway into your home.
@theotheoth
@theotheoth 3 ай бұрын
@@Albertanator Thanks for the advice, but I have (person to person) dissolved this weak claim into nothingness and sent its pedlars gibbering back to their scripture. I would guess that you have next to know firsthand experiential knowledge of yoga, and so would be in no real place to judge it.
@moodydolly
@moodydolly 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this series! It is so helpful, not only to have answers, but to know that, if you look at an accusation closely, it's likely that you can find a perfectly sound explanation. SO keep calm, and use all the tools at your disposition to find out the truth! :)
@camillewilliams3185
@camillewilliams3185 Жыл бұрын
Crazy that just reading the Bible properly in its context alone deals with much of the attacks against scripture
@kristyleavitt8007
@kristyleavitt8007 11 ай бұрын
I’ve enjoyed this series so much! Thank you for taking the time to prepare and deliver this thorough series, Mike!!
@AmericanTorah
@AmericanTorah 4 жыл бұрын
"In the time of Abiathar" doesn't even require that Abiathar be alive at the referenced time. It could refer to "the era in which Abiathar lived", which could include a significant number of years before his birth and after his death.
@JFDSmit-rm6tw
@JFDSmit-rm6tw 3 жыл бұрын
"Special magical device... called context." Love it. On the part of seeing God or nor, it is not uncommon to hear that people "see the father" in the son's actions and ways of approaching topics. For a guy who is deep into the religion of "humanism, rationality and reason", Bart Ehrman really is wilfully ignorant concerning this one. And thereby he proves that 2 Peter 3: 5 is true.
@jeffreylardizabal3964
@jeffreylardizabal3964 3 жыл бұрын
In hopes that our time can be best redeemed for what God intends for us: "Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him," - Proverbs 26:4
@yoramtervelde1224
@yoramtervelde1224 4 ай бұрын
Man, I found a contradiction in the Bible! Here it says you should awnser a fool according to his folly: ‭Proverbs 26:5 NKJV‬ [5] Answer a fool according to his folly, Lest he be wise in his own eyes.
@kevindunn1013
@kevindunn1013 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever debated Dr. Bart Ehrman? If so, I'd love to see it.
@HolyLandSite
@HolyLandSite 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate all your work and sound teaching. There is one detail in your map regarding the Bethsaida crossing issue. The location of Gennesaret is actually at modern-day Ginosar, which you can see on your map at 51:21. It's south a bit of the location you show on your map. I just thought I bring this small detail to your attention for what it's worth. Thanks again for all you do for our Lord!
@xheyashleyx
@xheyashleyx 4 жыл бұрын
Hey this is fun! I have been thankful for both of y’all’s videos. They have been very helpful to me!
@KennethAGrimm
@KennethAGrimm 3 жыл бұрын
Good point, HolyLandSite. Is it possible that the "the wind was against them" references a struggle with the wind, not an exact headwind? In that case, the apostles are thinking "Well duh, He wants us to go to home base in Capernaum; He could have said it plainly, but, whatever..." So they set out, past Bethsaida, toward Capernaum, but God's destination for them is Gennesaret, and despite their best efforts, the wind from the north drives them south to Gennesaret.
@jessalyncahill985
@jessalyncahill985 3 жыл бұрын
Thank-you Mike Winger! In University I signed up for a class called "New Testiment Studies". I was so excited to take this course in secular university. Only after class began did I realize the course was an agrument against the Bible. The text book was written by Bart Ehrman. It was too late for me to find another course and jumble my whole schedule around. So, I stayed in the class and just prayed "Lord, keep me." So, I was basically studying double to find answers to Bart's arguments. I will have my sons watch this 20 part series before they start University it would have been helpful for me.
@kennylee6499
@kennylee6499 3 жыл бұрын
I would see to the opportunity to learn more! If it was a university-level class with objections to the Bible, I’d assume you were being educated on the best the skeptics have to offer against the Bible. Don’t shy away from challenges but embrace them. We’re all on a search for truth aren’t we?
@ebonyy5248
@ebonyy5248 3 жыл бұрын
awwwwwwwwwww
@MichaelAChristian1
@MichaelAChristian1 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennylee6499 Jesus loves you! Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be SAVED! Get a king james bible an believe. Read Matthew. Read 1 John 4. There are NO mistakes.
@John14-6...
@John14-6... 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe there are these seemingly contradictions so that we Christians will diligently search the scripures hence strengthening our faith
@somethingrandomyt8367
@somethingrandomyt8367 7 ай бұрын
True
@jasonthomas8174
@jasonthomas8174 6 жыл бұрын
Dude I thought that wire hanging was a crack in my screen with my phone turned sideways.
@lonelyguyofficial8335
@lonelyguyofficial8335 6 жыл бұрын
Lol.
@joshjohnson3347
@joshjohnson3347 5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHOWmGmjjbF4gc0
@virgilpillay
@virgilpillay 4 жыл бұрын
I see it too 😅
@CPeetG
@CPeetG 4 жыл бұрын
I did too at first lol
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 3 жыл бұрын
I did too'. Then smoke started coming out of it.🔥🔥🤔🤔😂
@McElvisss
@McElvisss 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Mr Ehrman isn't involved with the judicial system, as there wouldn't be many convictions if multiple accounts of the same incident weren't allowed to be put together!
@lnln3656
@lnln3656 3 ай бұрын
Well said
@Japanimepop
@Japanimepop Жыл бұрын
just finished the series, thanks a lot for all your research and hard work! I plan to share this with as many people as possible.
@DeanMartinson-ci3lk
@DeanMartinson-ci3lk Жыл бұрын
There are no contradictions in the Bible 📖 Jesus please help us all understand the scriptures 🙏🏻
@Wendy-xk5uh
@Wendy-xk5uh Жыл бұрын
You not helping anyone with this to God because they are
@somethingrandomyt8367
@somethingrandomyt8367 7 ай бұрын
​@@Wendy-xk5uhwhat?
@Wendy-xk5uh
@Wendy-xk5uh 7 ай бұрын
@@somethingrandomyt8367 there are contradictions in the bible so you cant help people because your not fair
@somethingrandomyt8367
@somethingrandomyt8367 7 ай бұрын
@@Wendy-xk5uh you didn't watch the video did you😑
@Wendy-xk5uh
@Wendy-xk5uh 7 ай бұрын
@@somethingrandomyt8367 in the first place i wasent responding to you
@rayann9322
@rayann9322 5 жыл бұрын
Idk if you'll see this or not but I just finished watching this 20 part series!! I thought that all 20 videos were put together in a playlist? Where did that go? I would love to share the whole thing with others. Also are there more parts to this series considering you said at the end of this one you would continue into some more stuff like Archaeology and science, internal unity, ect. ? By the way, thank you sooooo much!!! I've been so TREMENDOUSLY blessed by this series!! Haven't found anything thing that compares to the amount of content and thoroughness in this series. I watched all 20 vids and have a nice thick stack of notes to reflect on and I'm planning to re-watch them all! Also have found so much of your other videos edifying and fruitful as well! The Lord is really using you Mike! Btw even as I was in the middle of getting through this series I was already able to provide answers to tough questions of skeptics in my life who need Jesus from what I was learning from this, in my conversations with them! Praise Jesus!
@tedtod4489
@tedtod4489 2 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone! I just wanted to share some good news with you all. Let's just put it this way, the Ten Commandments are called the Moral Law. Ask yourself this. How many lies have you told? Have you ever stolen anything? Have you ever used God's name in vein? Have you ever hated someone or ever looked with lust? This is for you to judge yourself, but chances are that you are a lying, thieving, blasphemous, fornicating, adulterer at heart and you HAVE to face God on judgement day. Now ask yourself this. If God judges you on judgement day by these Commandments, will you be innocent or guilty? Of course you'll be guilty because we've all done these things. The truth is that none of us are good people and we NESD God's grace to make it to heaven. We judt simply cannot do it on our own. These Commandments arecalled the Moral Law. You and I broke the law, Jesus payed the fine. So now what we must do to be saved is to repent of our sins and trust alone in Jesus Christ! To repent doesn't mean to just say I'm sorry, but to turn from our sins and let Him truly be our Lord continually. He said that many will say to Him, Lord, Lord I have done all of these things for you. And He will say I never knew you. Depart from Me, ye who work iniquity! And those will be cast into outer darkness and raging hellfire and loneliness for all of eternity!!! Because we broke His law, He is very, very just to send us to hell. If someone had murdered 4 people and said to the judge, I've done nice things too and have tried to treat people nice but it was just one time, the judge would then say, okay but you're going to jail. And the judge is very just to do that. One last thing, if you were 10,000 feet in the air and you had to jump, you wouldn't jump out and flap your arms and try to save yourself. That's ridiculous! You would put on the parachute. It is the same with Jesus. You must trust Him as you trust the parachute. We are not good and we cannot save ourselves with our own goodness. We must trust alone in Him to save us. In just a moment of time you can pass from death to life. Jesus said, "Verily, verily I say unto you, you must be born again." That is how we enter heaven. Through the blood and grace of Jesus Christ!!!!✝️If you ask someone how to enter Heaven, they will most likely say, "Be a good person." Well the Bible says that none is good, no not one. We like to compare ourselves to guys like Hitler and say, "Hey, I'm a pretty good guy compared to him." But when we compare ourselves to God's standard, we realize that the Bible speaks truth when it says that we all sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God!!! When we see this ( our sin in its TRUE light), we see how much trouble we are in and we say, "Well then there's nothing I can do. I'm going to hell for sure then." It's true that there is nothing that WE can do, but there is something that has already been done for you! God sent His One and Only Son to die on a cross as a sacrifice for our sins! So to recieve that eternal sweet sweet forgiveness, all we must do is repent of our sins (meaning to continually turn from them and confess them) and trust alone in Christ as you trust a parachute. If I was to push you out of an airplane, you'd want the parachute for sure! Don't try to flap your arms and save yourself, trust in the parachute! His finished work on the Cross IS ENOUGH!! He is the only way to Heaven, He said it Himself!! These other religions teach that we must he good and do good things and then maybe if we've been good enough, we will enter Heaven. But if that is true then we are all doomed to eternal hell because none of us are good. That's why this makes sense. Look at the Ten Commandments, they are written on your heart right now!! I promise that you have violated them. And you might still be doing that today. Therefore God is just to poor out His wrath on us because we deserve it!!! But Christ died for us so that we can spend eternity in Heaven with Him! Turn to Him today, and He and only He will save your soul "Verily, verily I say unto you, you must be born again ( to go to Heaven)."✝️
@mohangela3023
@mohangela3023 5 жыл бұрын
To understand word of God, we have to pray and seek guiding us to understand it.
@BlGGESTBROTHER
@BlGGESTBROTHER 4 жыл бұрын
So basically, just interpret it however you want.
@rosegetizo8775
@rosegetizo8775 4 жыл бұрын
@@BlGGESTBROTHER lol
@McSquishy
@McSquishy 3 жыл бұрын
Pray and seek for answers? Lmao
@anabaird3835
@anabaird3835 2 жыл бұрын
I love the color of his shirt. It picks up the color of the painted piece of wood behind/beside him, PERFECTLY! . Pretty cool.
@caliomaston42418
@caliomaston42418 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike. Thanks for this series. Wondering if you guys have the full notes avalable for this series. They would make a great study tool
@johnmiller3494
@johnmiller3494 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Pastor Winger for you dedication to prepare these videos to us who do not have the time. May God continue to bless your ministry.
@justinwillard76
@justinwillard76 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to know we still have some of the same linguistics patterns. Like I say I'm from KC but in reality I live 30 minuts south of KC
@ryantube9274
@ryantube9274 5 жыл бұрын
So near warrensburg 🤷‍♂️
@ryantube9274
@ryantube9274 5 жыл бұрын
Or Lee's summit
@KamalaKackles
@KamalaKackles 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I always claim to hale from the nearest city. I don’t see the point to say some town that only local people will know of.
@Barronvoncrash
@Barronvoncrash Жыл бұрын
31:53 Solomon having 40,000 horses for 4,000 chariots makes way more sense to me than a "copiest error". Horses get tired, chariots don't, swapping teams & drivers during a battle would be common.
@samwich0078
@samwich0078 4 жыл бұрын
I finished this series, but where are the archeology videos you were taking about?
@christineginsbury8467
@christineginsbury8467 2 жыл бұрын
Best apologetics teaching I have found!
@johanrheeder8879
@johanrheeder8879 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Mike, My wife and I discovered your teachings in 2020 and we are so blessed by your teachings in spirit and truth. We are from Pretoria South Africa. However I’d like to put a twist in one of your teachings about contradictions in die bible. In your video “Biggest Bible Contradictions: Evidence for the Bible pt20” published on 13 December 2016 at around 1:07:45 about Solomon’s Chariots you say that it is copyist error. I’d like to add my understanding here and please help me if I’m wrong. 1Ki 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen. 2Ch 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses AND chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; Now in the Kings verse it doesn’t tell me how many chariots he had but it tell me how many horses he had for the chariots. In the Chronicles verse he says that he has stalls for horses AND chariots. Could it be that he had stalls for the horses AND chariots and other stalls just for the horses FOR the chariots? If I then understand it correctly he had 40000 stalls of horses for the chariots and 4000 stalls for horses and chariots I think there were 10 horses per chariot. Reading out of NKJV. May our God continue to bless you and your ministry brother. Kind regards, Johan Rheeder
@elei417
@elei417 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing, praise to God who gave you wisdom and interest to study in depth
@crazyrezreppa
@crazyrezreppa 5 жыл бұрын
@MikeWinger I was excited to share that I just finished watching the entire 20 part series. It took me a couple months to pay close attention, but I got there. However I find it extremely disheartening that so many skeptics and critics are bashing on this comment thread, with arguments the Bible has already defeated in other parts of the series. People really don't want to face the truth even when it's compassionately presented to them. Anyway...thank you for taking the time to do this. More believers need to know what their Bible says.
@MikeWinger
@MikeWinger 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats on making it all the way through!
@michaelflores9220
@michaelflores9220 5 жыл бұрын
Face the truth: Acts 9 says Paul's companions heard a voice, Acts 22 recounting the same event says they did not. Most arguments about errors in The Bible Christians have are non-biblical, desperate, Ad Hoc rationalizations they'd never apply to the Koran or to any other book.
@google12greekmythsthatprove.
@google12greekmythsthatprove. 5 жыл бұрын
@@michaelflores9220 Why are the troll accounts the ONLY ones being responded to by Mike Winger?
@bryanlovesjesus2204
@bryanlovesjesus2204 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelflores9220 he literally addressed this “contradiction”!
@fffworship3053
@fffworship3053 2 жыл бұрын
Have there be any additional videos made on this topic as eluded to in the end of the video? The playlist has concluded after 20 videos. Great job. Very helpful.
@rick_h
@rick_h 4 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up Mike. Maranatha!
@blostin
@blostin 6 жыл бұрын
Regarding Ehrmann, I heard once that "suffering in this world" was what "broke his camel's back." Funny that once he started writing books against the Gospel he got his first BMW.
@tribequest9
@tribequest9 5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Erhman is a Jew, his name, his looks, his despising the gospels.......screams Jew to me.
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 5 жыл бұрын
Jews and what the bible says about them.@@tribequest9
@BlGGESTBROTHER
@BlGGESTBROTHER 4 жыл бұрын
@@tribequest9 Most of your Bible was written by jews. Jesus himself was a Jew. Christianity screams JEW to me.
@jaxsonfanta5420
@jaxsonfanta5420 3 жыл бұрын
The New Testament is basically a commentary on what Jesus said/did and the Old Testament teachings. The Jews are not to be despised.
@nagaseminarian
@nagaseminarian 5 жыл бұрын
Good work, pastor.
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 5 жыл бұрын
How do u mean
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 3 жыл бұрын
Could be better. And why did Satan keep any powers...
@grantbartley483
@grantbartley483 3 жыл бұрын
When people dislike this they're saying 'I hate you for disproving my complacent atheist arguments'
@Ant794
@Ant794 4 жыл бұрын
A person honestly seeking truth couldn’t continue to be an atheist
@Ant794
@Ant794 4 жыл бұрын
SwolllenGoat yeah it is rather impressive that god did something like that, that’s why it’s in the Bible lol
@Ant794
@Ant794 4 жыл бұрын
SwolllenGoat rather slow child? Yikes man I can see the bitterness in your words, and I don’t know exactly when it happened and I don’t have to lol you can search your whole life for when it happened and never find it. Your asking the wrong questions man. If we confess with our mouth Jesus is lord and believe god raised him from the dead we’ll be saved. Not by finding evidence for Noah’s flood, proof is overrated. You might be watching too much Aron Ra
@Ant794
@Ant794 4 жыл бұрын
SwolllenGoat yes they are child like, Jesus said to enter the kingdom of heaven I we have to have child like faith, and those are really good questions that we may not answer in our lifetime but that doesn’t make it untrue, love ya!
@Ant794
@Ant794 4 жыл бұрын
SwolllenGoat without any evidence? The resurrection is the central point of Christianity and there’s plenty of evidence for that, and I wasn’t taught to believe it I went through a whole phase of questioning what I believe and still ended up a Christian you clearly have something against religion or you’ve just been watching to many of your favorite atheists videos. However, I’m happy god brought you to mike wingers channel and I hope you continue to watch his videos with an open heart
@kurokuro1796
@kurokuro1796 3 жыл бұрын
The bible is about as real and accurate as the book of mormon my friend lol
@davidmaneti9788
@davidmaneti9788 4 жыл бұрын
Listening and thank you!
@jacobbutch3r
@jacobbutch3r 5 жыл бұрын
God Bless you Mike!
@KamalaKackles
@KamalaKackles 4 жыл бұрын
I unsubbed to this page about a year ago due to some videos failing to call our Bill Johnson and a few other heretics. I’ve missed a lot of good information because of my narrow mindedness and hate for that movement. This series is great and encourages Christians to dive deeper into Scripture.
@perfectpeace00
@perfectpeace00 2 жыл бұрын
He does have videos now that call out Bill Johnson and others
@mauriciorenteria6206
@mauriciorenteria6206 2 жыл бұрын
Bro you have so much content 😂...I thought this was new and I keep on finding older stuff...how did I not know about you before
@imageinkdesign
@imageinkdesign 6 жыл бұрын
Former Rabbi in training Erin Budgen related that in addition to Mary being the biological mother of Jesus, there was one more indication for the preservation and relating of her genealogy, and that was in relationship to the family inheritance of land, the separation and dispersion of those in the North or South etc, often the maternal genealogy was increasingly relied upon to determine legal succession.
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 5 жыл бұрын
bla what what
@sherrybroers6459
@sherrybroers6459 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this series! Thankyou Mike! Did I miss something or is there other episodes about archeological finds that prove the Bible?
@tracezachdaniels4264
@tracezachdaniels4264 Жыл бұрын
GREAT JOB ALL...THANX 4 MAKING Tee with LIONS NAMED LEO the music worldwide. LOVE YOU ALL...!!!
@shredhed572
@shredhed572 5 жыл бұрын
"I see." Said the blind carpenter, who picked up his hammer and saw.....lol
@donaldconfalone2410
@donaldconfalone2410 5 жыл бұрын
Shred Hed fool ! Grow up .... shred head , what a cute name.
@donaldconfalone2410
@donaldconfalone2410 5 жыл бұрын
You should open up your spiritual eyes and look deep into your own soul !
@wesleygordon1645
@wesleygordon1645 4 жыл бұрын
Then ask GOD to open your eyes that you ma see.
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 3 жыл бұрын
@@wesleygordon1645 And why was any angel in heaven ignorant of God, precisely?
@anonny2994
@anonny2994 Жыл бұрын
Is there a way to answer these questions without disparaging the people who need answers to them?
@nopretribrapture2318
@nopretribrapture2318 5 жыл бұрын
Correct.ive studied too and its messed me up.i believe there's a CREATOR GOD but not sure who.!
@osascamp1002
@osascamp1002 5 жыл бұрын
Same here bro so many lies. I thought I had the truth and had it all figured out. Until a actually started reading the bible. Then I realised, nope I actually know nothing at all 😂
@DisasterEnby
@DisasterEnby 5 жыл бұрын
@@osascamp1002 well maybe you should put that book down; if any of them are real it'll be one that can stay consistent with its characters and lore.
@osascamp1002
@osascamp1002 5 жыл бұрын
@@DisasterEnby put it down months ago lol im done studying that crap way too many contradictions it's crazy
@305thief8
@305thief8 5 жыл бұрын
Truth Seeker I pity you you must not have watched the video I learned I can’t trust any Atheist or anyone who tries to discredit or debunk it
@DisasterEnby
@DisasterEnby 5 жыл бұрын
@@305thief8 then go, suffer in your meaningless paranoia.
@rayzumot7840
@rayzumot7840 2 жыл бұрын
With all respect to everyone . from the comments that i read when i watch a video like this and from what i know generally is that , if you are a person who grew up with this faith just because you and your family believe in it, you will always do your best to defend it and try to reject anything that is said against it , even if it's completely true ! and if you are a person who's an atheist or does not believe in God at all , you will also do your best to refuse to surrender to some facts about God that he could exist no matter what evidence they present to you ! So , am gonna say this nicely and kindly ..... it's very rare for me to see or meet someone who has a full and complete belief in something %100 comes from within them and from deep inside them ( not from family or friends influence ) and at the same time they have a good logical reason why they believe in it . something that makes sense to the rational human mind in 2022 !! Peace & Love to all Faiths and religions and to all of you 😄
@quickaura
@quickaura 4 жыл бұрын
Mike, every time in your explanations where you try to prove something based of the Bible's original text, you are asserting something you absolutely cannot prove. There never has been a Bible consisting of all of the original Bible texts,, so when you need to fall back on the Bible's original text to assert something, you are actually leaning on nothing at all..
@coliostro1006
@coliostro1006 4 жыл бұрын
Wait... so Winger is disputing Ehrman - who studies the source material and all of their variants- by reading from the Bible as printed? O_o Or am I missing something..
@laveras6641
@laveras6641 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the only time he referenced original text was in regard to copyist error. Failing to realize that there were many humans and many degradable materials who copied the Bible many times will lead you to come to the conclusion that the Bible is contradictory, at least/especially pertaining to numbers. Failing to understand the languages the Bible was originally written in and the contexts of scripture will cause you to be so confused. But at one point there was an original document for every book, an original understanding of the text, an original language, etc, and that technically will outweigh all other copies and understandings. If there is error in the original, there is error in the Bible; if there is reason to believe a copy/translation is in error but the original wasn't, there isn't error in the Bible. Yes this need for original text opens discussion, but just like you said, there's no way to prove it, so we can either choose the most ignorant explanation or the most logical explanation.
@graemefajardo6384
@graemefajardo6384 4 жыл бұрын
I think you missed him proving the right usage by looking at the context of the preceding or following verse/s which a logical reader always does so it is not strange to do the same with the Bible to defend it. Also he admitted that he only answered this topic but does not mean it covered the whole defense of the Bible because there are a lot of questions that is irrelevant to his objectives. Regarding the issue that the original text is free from error and not the copies, it is logical to doubt, even Christians should entertain that as well. After all, people before have no access to printing technology that time. But recent archaeological findings, which are inconsiderate to the Bible in the first place, has been proving little by little and consistently that the inerrancy of the original texts is highly possible. Masoretic system of scribal reproduction, the Dead Sea Scrolls and other artifacts are the solid existing evidences regarding the millennial preservation of the texts of the Bible, not to mention the thousand manuscripts of the New Testament surpassing the few to hundred copies of other famous manuscripts of Homer, Sophocles, Aristotle and other brilliant "reliable" philosophers with their writings. We cannot let the latter pass with fewer copies and reject the first considering the mountain of evidences that is hundred times more available than the latter. That is the double standard mentioned that we must avoid in logical interpretation
@graemefajardo6384
@graemefajardo6384 4 жыл бұрын
@Larry Cavalli "are really just pieces of documents" there you finally laid your answer why any evidence pointing to the veracity of the Scripture are unreliable and unimportant according to you. And your interpretation about its connection with the founding of Roman Catholicism is irrelevant. Just because it is connected to a religious organization does not mean the accuracy and preservation of the texts are affected by it
@nonprogrediestregredi1711
@nonprogrediestregredi1711 4 жыл бұрын
@@coliostro1006 Yes, I believe you're "missing something". Ehrman has stated over and over how we cannot be sure of what the originals would have said. He has debated Daniel Wallace of Dallas Theological Seminary about this. Wallace erroneously claims that we can be quite confident of what the originals said. We have no originals of any book or epistle of the bibles and therefore cannot be certain of their content.
@fancypants1523
@fancypants1523 4 жыл бұрын
Something that confused me is when the rich man and the poor man go to hades in the old testament. Rich man is on one side and poor man on the other divided by a casim. The poor man was next to abraham and the rich man was in fire being tortured. Rich man asks for a drop of water. Now i dont know if this is part of christianity belief but i have heard it quoted by some so i will assume. The rich man is being punished for his actions in life but everyone is supposed to be judged together.
@brandi5326
@brandi5326 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's just a parable. So it's not a literal event transpiring, and it's also not a teaching on the physical set up of heaven and hell at that current moment. It's just an illustration to get a point across to his audience
@MessegerAwesome12
@MessegerAwesome12 8 жыл бұрын
You the man, Mike! Keep up the awesome workk
@davidbell2547
@davidbell2547 2 жыл бұрын
At around 32 minutes, could there possibly be another explanation? Maybe at one point Solomon had 4000 horses, at another he had 40,000?
@davidbell2547
@davidbell2547 2 жыл бұрын
Ohh you said it already lol
@WhatYourPastorDidntTellYou
@WhatYourPastorDidntTellYou 7 жыл бұрын
28:08 so savage 😂😂😂
@grosbeak6130
@grosbeak6130 5 жыл бұрын
Beets By Schrute guy you're easily impressed.
@younggrasshopper3531
@younggrasshopper3531 3 жыл бұрын
@@grosbeak6130 being easily impressed is great actually lol it’s a way happier life than being a snob
@mattguffey1065
@mattguffey1065 3 жыл бұрын
I know I’m a few years late but I have the interlinear Bible that has the Hebrew and Greek to English and the word for see is different. Any information on the variation?
@titan6892
@titan6892 5 жыл бұрын
I am so proud of you.. this is cool ☺
@joseg.solano1891
@joseg.solano1891 2 жыл бұрын
God bless. God looks at the proud from far away.
@RamonaQ
@RamonaQ 3 жыл бұрын
@11:51 - "...I don't want to quote from one version too much and then get a copywright notice.." Are you saying that if you quote from certain - or any? - version of the Bible "too much", you receive a strike? From whom does the strike come - the 'owner' of the translation? Who defines what is "too much"? Do you know what this imposed limit is?
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 3 жыл бұрын
Given it's not a complete book to begin with, though....?
@slythawyrda
@slythawyrda 3 жыл бұрын
pretty sure that was just a joke
@jacopieterse8484
@jacopieterse8484 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mike, just a suggestion, when you read 1 King 4:26 it is clear that Solomon had 40 000 stalls for his horses with out chariots but they where for his chariots i.e. the horses had stalls wherein they where kept when they were not needed for the chariots. When we read 2 chronicles 9:25 it is clear that Solomon had 4000 stalls for his horses with chariots i.e. when the horses where attached to their chariots he had 4000 stalls where in they could be kept
@ccash3290
@ccash3290 2 жыл бұрын
23:07 he says: "face to face" means Moses would talk and God would answer. The bible literally explains what face to face means in **the next 8 words** 22:56 "face to face, just as a man speaks to a friend" That is blankly ignoring the text.
@gratefulapostate3123
@gratefulapostate3123 5 жыл бұрын
I know that humans are ingenious enough to form ipso facto explanations for bible contradictions, but my question is this: Why couldn't an all-knowing god be capable of writing a book that has no apparent contradictions, and could be read, and understood, clearly by everyone, without the necessity for so much work to attempt to reconcile the all of the inconsistencies? Didnt he have enough motivation to relay his message clearly, or was he simply not able to?
@josephbishara4791
@josephbishara4791 5 жыл бұрын
Religion is a man-made fantasy. We have different fantasies and that's why we have over 3000 religions in the world today. If God was real, his WORD would be clear and his EXISTENCE would be as undeniable as the Sun. There would be no argument about his EXISTENCE.
@issacfrye3680
@issacfrye3680 5 жыл бұрын
Because the all knowing God is not the God of all nation's. He's the GOD of Israel. The book is designed to be confusing to a carnal mind. The spirit of truth must enter for it's mysteries unlocked.
@carleymiletti2401
@carleymiletti2401 5 жыл бұрын
I'm going to go a head a through out there that most people who believe the bible contradicts itself usually hasn't and wont read the whole book.
@donaldconfalone2410
@donaldconfalone2410 5 жыл бұрын
Joseph Bishara thank you for clearing that up with your briliance😯
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 5 жыл бұрын
Right. stop listening to man. God said. bible could have been. for if man takes or adds is a sin. MAN SINS SO THERE.
@uroshratkovic930
@uroshratkovic930 5 жыл бұрын
They call them "contradictions" but they are actually just a form of coping mechanism. When Bible is approached with open and critical mind, you get people like J. Warner Wallace and Lee Strobel, when it's approached with feelings and egoism, you get...well...fundy atheists.
@aussiedadreviews
@aussiedadreviews 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike. 4 1/2 stars 🌟
@elijahcandage
@elijahcandage 9 ай бұрын
I'm reminded of that meme from Clone High. "Last year, Abe said he was 15. But now he claims to be 16! Which is it Abe?"
@sorakanzoku1748
@sorakanzoku1748 4 жыл бұрын
Man I wanna see mike winger and Jeff durbin debate some famous athiests like bill Nye and Neil Degrassi or someone from the infidel or William Craig
@tedgrant2
@tedgrant2 2 жыл бұрын
Looking for errors is not going to get you saved. You need to look for truth if you want salvation.
@joakaye4088
@joakaye4088 4 жыл бұрын
God bless you !
@CrackingChristianity
@CrackingChristianity 5 жыл бұрын
I have been taking the Moses "face to face" section differently. I think the explanation of 'see=know' makes a lot of sense in John, but in Exodus I think there is a theophany. I.e. Moses speaks face to face with Jesus, but asks to see God's full glory, so either God as a 'whole' or the Father. Generally I think if someone has seen God, they have seen the Son (the visible image of God), but the verses about not being able to see him and live are about the Father or even Jesus in full glory. Which would include Jacob and Samson's parents.
@StinkyWizleteets
@StinkyWizleteets 4 жыл бұрын
The back bending and pretzel logic Christians will go to in order to prop up their fairy tales is truly astounding.
@KAELYNS_PLANET2O2
@KAELYNS_PLANET2O2 2 жыл бұрын
Mike, I don't know if I missed it...but could you please please please do a detailed video on the birth stories differences in Matthew and Luke. I am a Christian 4 years and only realized this recently. I'm still going to church, but my faith is really rattled ever since. Also, please answer why would God allow things that throw you off in the Bible ? If everything is God breathed and God does everything perfect then shouldn't there be only clarity? Thank you!
@Qshafe
@Qshafe 2 жыл бұрын
First off, part of going to church isn't just to learn, but to have a family to lean on in tough/doubtful times. Have you gone to your pastor with your questions? You should talk to them if you haven't already. Second, what are you having trouble with in the accounts of Jesus's birth? Third, I think Mike has done a very good job of showing that the outside influences (i.e. not internal doubt) that get in the way of God's word are human attempts to twist it. People have free will, and they use it to do bad things. This whole 20 part series should have proven to you that the Bible is the divinely inspired word that holds true (so long as you don't have a very bad translation). Despite very small minor inconsistencies (like 4,000 stables vs 40,000), the actual theological beliefs it espouses hold true.
@codym6376
@codym6376 2 жыл бұрын
I believe one is the genealogy of Mary and the other is Joseph if I remember correctly. (Even though Joseph wasn’t the birth father it was common to show the “fathers” lineage.) I’ve often wondered why things weren’t clearer and it has indeed frustrated me. The only answer I have is that God wants us to be faithful and these verses serve as an easy test to see if we will remain faithful. Secondly the scripture tells us to study. Maybe it’s a little difficult to understand because he knows that things you work for are more valuable than freebies.?
@codym6376
@codym6376 2 жыл бұрын
I believe one is the genealogy of Mary and the other is Joseph if I remember correctly. (Even though Joseph wasn’t the birth father it was common to show the “fathers” lineage.) I’ve often wondered why things weren’t clearer and it has indeed frustrated me. The only answer I have is that God wants us to be faithful and these verses serve as an easy test to see if we will remain faithful. Secondly the scripture tells us to study. Maybe it’s a little difficult to understand because he knows that things you work for are more valuable than freebies.?
@SAPHYTYRA
@SAPHYTYRA 4 жыл бұрын
THESE were the biggest and beat contradictions you could find? They are not even meet for our salvation. How about we get into Paul's writings? We would really be playing hardball then.
@tructurner477
@tructurner477 4 жыл бұрын
These are light weight contradictions in Comparison to many of the others🤦🏽‍♂️
@VitoHoffa
@VitoHoffa 4 жыл бұрын
Their are no contridictions.
@Iamwrongbut
@Iamwrongbut 4 жыл бұрын
Straw men are easy to know like down
@TheCountfilth
@TheCountfilth 4 жыл бұрын
@@VitoHoffa There is no spoon...
@iicecourt00
@iicecourt00 4 жыл бұрын
Napoleon Jones There are some but not as many as critics claim. And most of those contradictions are in the KJV translation due to either old language or poor translation of verses
@internationalfishers2367
@internationalfishers2367 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your approachability in all your videos.
@bostonredsox1407
@bostonredsox1407 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a series SPECIFICALLY about scientific errors?
@johnpetkos5686
@johnpetkos5686 3 жыл бұрын
No need, the Bible is totally inerrant on science as it gets everything right, in regards to the physical world, with unparalleled accuracy
@johnpetkos5686
@johnpetkos5686 3 жыл бұрын
@justaguylearningmusic No, it does not. This is totally absurd to claim, actually. The Bible is a collection of books written by people who did not have a clue about science. Sure, if you apply a far-fetched interpretation on specific passages, you can find whatever you want to find, but that's not proof the Bible gets it right, it's just dishonest cherry picking.
@whatsinaname691
@whatsinaname691 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnpetkos5686 Idk, Isaiah 40:22 seems pretty rock solid.
@Malhaloc
@Malhaloc 3 жыл бұрын
There is no science in the Bible. Science is the study of process. The Bible tells us how to go to Heaven, not how the heavens go. There's no explanation of process in the Bible.
@JFDSmit-rm6tw
@JFDSmit-rm6tw 3 жыл бұрын
On Solomon’s horses and stables: 1Ki 4: 26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots 2Ch 9: 25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots I doubt that this is a copyist error here: four thousand stalls for horse-and-chariot teams, and into the larger stalls, there were forty thousand stalls to keep the horses themselves. That would give forty thousand horses and four thousand chariots; ten horses per chariot. If every chariot is drawn by two horses, it would allow for tired horses to be exchanged during battle (provided that the fresh horses were taken along to the theater of war, waiting at the encampment). It would also allow for injured, maybe even dead, horses to be replaced and the chariot team to get back to the battle. War doesn't wait for the opposition to do repairs; war is best for the enemy when the your forces are incapacitated. To ensure you have enough - even overstock - of repairs and replacement parts, would ensure that the opposition will not be able to storm your position and catch you unawares and unprepared.
@damiancorn9062
@damiancorn9062 4 жыл бұрын
“… the earth abideth for ever.” - Ecclesiastes 1:4 “… the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.” - 2Peter 3:10
@5BBassist4Christ
@5BBassist4Christ 4 жыл бұрын
"I've not seen you in forever" said one finite being to another.
@zero8xkira
@zero8xkira 4 жыл бұрын
The earth abideth forever in fervent heat. How is that hard to understand?
@hfarthingt
@hfarthingt 4 жыл бұрын
Winter White yes, it’s like saying “the sun will rise again” or “the seasons will change”, yet the Bible is clear this current system will inevitably end and a new heaven and earth be brought about, one with no sun and no seasons.
@QZigZagg
@QZigZagg 4 жыл бұрын
In the Hebrew, sometimes forever doesn’t always mean “infinity and beyond”, but it sometimes mean “continuously” or “long period of time”.
@fountainsworld3447
@fountainsworld3447 3 жыл бұрын
Thats because solomon had no knowledge of Jesus and the end times. This was the OT
@shellyblanchard5788
@shellyblanchard5788 5 жыл бұрын
Some people get it confused as what God changes. In Exodus he told Israel that the Sabbath covenant was forever but then in Jeremiah 31:31 He said he would make different covenant. The Sabbath would day would cease and Jesus said to come him for rest. Hosea 2:12 and Matthew 11:28-30. When Jesus would fulfill the law and the prophets he said it would pass.
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 5 жыл бұрын
all blind
@realdealdaveabramyk9005
@realdealdaveabramyk9005 4 жыл бұрын
Anybody else catch he accidentally punned mark firman from the OJ trial?
@thehereticinme5476
@thehereticinme5476 6 жыл бұрын
But why would god change his mind when an all knowing god would know that the people would repent and therefore would already have known that he would have to forgive?
@mikeavila2300
@mikeavila2300 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly my question. Many times God was angry or sad. Why? Didn't he know?
@laveras6641
@laveras6641 4 жыл бұрын
There's an aspect of God being outside of creation and humans being inside creation. It's like trying to invision the 4th dimension from our 3 dimensional world. So God is outside of time, and did know they were going to repent, but He worked inside of their view of time and it is therefore written in human perception of time. For instance, if God interceded and told them that He had already "changed His mind", even before the issue came up, they would've never repented cause they wouldn't have needed to. Further, why doesn't God just send everyone who is and will be Christian to heaven right now since He already knows they'll go there? It's just this weird interaction between God and time.
@omarmunoz5787
@omarmunoz5787 4 жыл бұрын
There is no harmonizing the birth accounts of Matthew and Luke or the narratives of what happened after Jesus' death. Ehrman is arguing for an individual reading and appreciation for each gospel and understanding what each writer intended according to their target audience and the circumstances they were experimenting at the time. I agree there are many "contradictions" that can be rebuffed through interpretation or subjetive harmonizing. I tend to avoid these and stick to the accounts that simply CANNOT be harmonized no matter what loops you wish to jump through. I appreciate your articulate delivery of the gospel defense. Its enough for the willing layman, ignorant of any amount of scriptural scrutiny, but it rings empty to anyone who actually has any handle of these topics.
@younggrasshopper3531
@younggrasshopper3531 3 жыл бұрын
What’s your best example?
@tobinthomas8401
@tobinthomas8401 3 жыл бұрын
@@younggrasshopper3531 Exactly! And his response? Crickets.......I would've expected more from a man claiming to "actually have a handle of these topics".
@younggrasshopper3531
@younggrasshopper3531 3 жыл бұрын
@@tobinthomas8401 hi tobin dude at this point in life i am abandoning KZbin debates because ug such futility so I almost agree with him not responding if that makes any sense lol
@younggrasshopper3531
@younggrasshopper3531 3 жыл бұрын
@@tobinthomas8401 it’s more important to me to have the guts to declare Jesus both the warnings and promises of the gospel to people in my life and pray for them… stay weak in ourselves and strong in the Lord Tobin 💜
@albertrenshaw4252
@albertrenshaw4252 6 ай бұрын
It’s really sad hearing the contradiction that “broke Bart’s back” because it’s so easily resolved and instead he just dove into atheism ):
@Levy122
@Levy122 6 жыл бұрын
''Men do not reject the Bible because it contradicts itself but because it contradicts them.''
@deloresm7494
@deloresm7494 6 жыл бұрын
Levy LB nailed it
@TheTyty2010
@TheTyty2010 6 жыл бұрын
Umm no..its a contradiction whether u like it or not..belief doesn’t equal reality..humans have gotten it wrong time and time again with religion..Christianity is nondiffferent
@deloresm7494
@deloresm7494 6 жыл бұрын
Fotia Madness He means your fear of accountability, if you don't know the bad news, that youre a filthy sinner and cannot approach a perfect God. Then you don't understand the good news.
@TheTyty2010
@TheTyty2010 6 жыл бұрын
Delores M “perfection” cannot create imperfections...that fact that Lucifer and sin exists in your worldview shows that your god is imperfect..if I build a computer filled with viruses am I a perfect engineer? No I wouldn’t be..the rules apply with your god..stating something is perfect doesn’t make it so..there needs to be perfections across the board with no room for error
@deloresm7494
@deloresm7494 6 жыл бұрын
Fotia Madness wow, you know what God can or cannot do.? He created perfection with free will, we chose to know evil, and we liked it. Read Genesis.
@wjames6450
@wjames6450 7 жыл бұрын
I see 3 Bible contradictions refuted videos. Thank you for these. They are very helpful. I see them numbered at pt 18, pt 19, & pt 20. Are there videos numbered for pts 1-17? Am I misunderstanding the titles?
@MikeWinger
@MikeWinger 7 жыл бұрын
+Wendy James these are three videos about Bible contradictions which are only part of a much larger series called "Evidence for the Bible". The series is meant to show why we can and should believe the Bible is God's word. Here is the link to the full playlist. kzbin.info/aero/PLZ3iRMLYFlHuhA0RPKZFHVcjIMN_-F596
@cameronmathews9315
@cameronmathews9315 5 жыл бұрын
40,000 horses and 4000 chariots. Horses get tired, chariots don't. Want to keep your chariots in battle? Have fresh horses on standby.
@jasonokasuo3401
@jasonokasuo3401 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have historical material to support the idea they changed chariot horses during battle, or did you just come up with that? ;)
@kriegjaeger
@kriegjaeger Жыл бұрын
Big takeaway is how people will constantly attack the bible, be wrong, but it never actually registers. They've already made their mind up. "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime." the bible is already "guilty" in their eyes, they just need to find a reason to condemn it.
@cobracyxx8808
@cobracyxx8808 5 жыл бұрын
The fact that this is a twenty part series is is alrarming
@AString95
@AString95 5 жыл бұрын
You're taking the series out of context. They are not all about contradictions.
@davidzandstra9506
@davidzandstra9506 3 жыл бұрын
The people who present the contradictions of the Bible are telling you the truth
@benjamintuchek8079
@benjamintuchek8079 7 жыл бұрын
30:59 So.... You DON'T claim the bible is inerrant? If there is even a single copyist error in the document, how can you claim its "Truth"? If there is copyist errors, what criteria do you use to judge if one claim is simply an error, or if one is true?
@MikeWinger
@MikeWinger 7 жыл бұрын
Please see 34:52 for an explanation of how this doesn't challenge inerrancy but actually supports it. I do believe in inerrancy. I should also mention that this is not my own private definition of inerrancy, it is the general view. Inerrancy only extends as far as the copies represent the original, and this seems quite rational. To imagine that inerrancy means every copy must be inerrant no matter how badly done seems quite silly.
@benjamintuchek8079
@benjamintuchek8079 7 жыл бұрын
+Mike Winger Thank you for the time-stamp, and for responding. I swear I watched this entire 3 video series start-to-finish and can't believe I missed this part. "Inerrancy only extends as far as the copies represent the original, and this seems quite rational." While I agree, do you only teach from the original manuscripts that we have no complete copies for? Or do you teach from errant copies? If you teach from errant copies, is this not a willing distortion of your text? "To imagine that inerrancy means every copy must be inerrant no matter how badly done seems quite silly." I imagine that a God as powerful as you claim yours to be would be able to keep all copies inerrant. It is the inspired word of God, no? Lastly, did you get a chance to review my other comment with a Bible Contradiction?
@benjamintuchek8079
@benjamintuchek8079 7 жыл бұрын
+Mike Winger Hey Mike, I never received a response on my comment. I understand you are likely very busy, so I just wanted to poke you here once more to see if I could get a response to my questions and the contradiction I pointed to within the bible. Hope to comment with you further. Thanks.
@MikeWinger
@MikeWinger 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Benjamin, I enjoy having this sort of conversation, I see it as truly valuable and will try and reply to you as time allows. The great and sad thing is that I am no longer able to keep up with all the comments on my videos, but this isn't because they aren't worth responding to. Do I teach from errant copies? Not exactly. I teach from a translation which is made after available copies are analyzed and strong attempts are made to determine the original reading of each passage. When the original reading is in question there is usually a footnote indicating that issue. This means that the original text is represented in either the text or the footnote and I am able to examine reasons for any textual variation using great resources like netbible.org and the like. It is simplistic to say that their are no issues regarding the text, and some believers have made the mistake of saying this to their own detriment. It is also a mistake to say that any issue equates to a substantial challenge to inspiration or inerrancy, and that is the mistake that I see some skeptics make. I am trying to deal with the facts as they are and not overstate their implications in this series. It is true that God has the power to keep every copy inerrant. He also has the power to simply hardwire the entire contents of the Bible perfectly into the brains of every human being. But simply acknowledging that God could do something doesn't necessitate that He must in order for us to have a reliable Bible. The fact that He could keep all copies inerrant doesn't mean that He must in order for us to have an inerrant source text. Is it possible that God would give us so many copies that the discipline of textual criticism would be able to say with great confidence "this is the original text"? I think so, and I think this is the case. I will go look for your other comment and the example of a contradiction which you mentioned before.
@yunusahmed2940
@yunusahmed2940 6 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Tuchek Biblical Inspiration does not mean every single copy of the "Bible" is innerant. It means the original books made by the authors were inspired by God.
@mothernatureson3734
@mothernatureson3734 5 жыл бұрын
Comments and questions; pros and cons about this topic are products of curiosity and inquisitive mind. That would be great ! It only shows that everybody is doing his/her homework. L.O.L. Justifying erroneous entries in the Bible would only lead to confusion. (No offense meant to the commentators) I appreciate the exchange of ideas and the sharing of understanding on the account of clarifications on matters of great interest which concerns the Bible. Bible scholars too can not explain convincingly the cause of such errors. As long as God's words are completely intact and consistent, and the ESSENCE remains it does not affect me much. I would not be too meticulous about it.
@scottgodwin3229
@scottgodwin3229 5 жыл бұрын
He is doing the same thing modern theologians do which is explain contradictions to fit his pre-conceieved Christian belief's. Why is it that all these contradictions can be explained by self professed theologians when the contradictions are inherent explanations in their self.
@joseg.solano1891
@joseg.solano1891 2 жыл бұрын
Beliefs*
@markpreston629
@markpreston629 8 жыл бұрын
Really value your work on KZbin, God does not change but He does relent. Different words different meanings!
@stephencarry4854
@stephencarry4854 4 жыл бұрын
I will say congrats on leaving the comments open most apologist aren't that brave
@trygvij1604
@trygvij1604 4 жыл бұрын
People, my self included, have very short attention span and tend to wonder down to the comment section and stop paying attention to what is said in the video. That's why I think keeping the comment section closed is a good thing. Anyways... back to the video 😂
@VitoHoffa
@VitoHoffa 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah they need to be more brave . But atheist are very mean for some reason that's probably why
@jakeofalltradesmusic
@jakeofalltradesmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I was a bit disappointed by the "Does God change" question, because I don't think the refutation you gave was the best example. I have understood that God has been incredibly patient and merciful and loving, but at some point, judgment does come. The bill comes due (my Methodist friend thinks judgment is a sign that God is petty, so no passages about God's judgment are reliable... I vehemently disagree). Anyway, there are 2 instances where God seems to "change" that I really struggle with. Here's the context I'm working with here: God spent hundreds of years telling Israel and Judah to repent of their terrible sins before having Assyria and Babylon destroy them. 1) Aaron's sons. They lit the wrong kind of fire for the ceremony, and God instantly sends fire from Heaven to kill them... Then He tells Aaron that if He mourns for his sons' deaths, He'll burn Aaron too. That seems like a radical change in character. He doesn't tell them they lit the wrong kind of fire and tells them to go back and do it right. He doesn't do anything less drastic like cutting them off from the community. He straight up burns them to a crisp and they're probably in Hell. If I ordered a Cookies and Cream ice cream cake for my birthday and the place brought me durian (I hate durian), I wouldn't burn the place to the ground. I'd tell them to go back and fix my order. So, I know people can't be more merciful and loving than God, but I struggle to see how any reasonable human being isn't being more merciful than God here. Perhaps someone has a reasonable explanation. I just haven't found a satisfying one yet. 2) For the next one, it's a similar example, except it's in the New Testament, when Jesus already ascended... He paid for our sins on the cross and is our advocate to the Father. Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5 sell property, keep some of the money, and give the rest to the church. They lie saying that the money they gave was the full value of the property. Peter calls them out on the lie. Instantly, the Holy Spirit kills them. Again, they had no chance to repent when called out. They had no chance to rectify the situation. God, being patient, merciful, and JUST having paid for all the sins of those who believe, knocked them dead and presumably have them burning in Hell without a chance to repent after being exposed. In Paul's letters, he talks about church discipline, on confronting people privately, then bringing 2 or 3 witnesses, then bringing it to the church to elicit repentance... It's a long process. But Ananias and Sapphira were knocked dead in an instant. How do you rectify this? I've committed worse sins than lying. How do I know the next time I make a mistake, God cuts off His mercy and kills me? My next mistake is the one that trigger's God's judgment upon me. Heck, I already think I made that mistake that revoked God's mercy from because I still haven't recovered from said mistake YEARS LATER though I repented. I'm struggling with this. I'm not an atheist. I'm a believer (though because of my struggles and doubts, many of you reading this will probably tell me that I'm not a _REAL_ believer, as is apparently the new culture of the church - you're not perfect? You must not have received the Holy Spirit). I'd like a decent answer for my questions, instead of many people's typical answer of, "Oh, you question God? Well, you just need to change your attitude." I know, Pastor Mike, my questions make me a fool, as you say in your conclusion. But I'm lesser than you, so please be graceful to someone who was made to be literal garbage.
@codym6376
@codym6376 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting questions, I’m not a scholar but I’ll share a few thoughts. 1. As soon as you make a choice you deserve the consequence. We all deserve immediate judgment and any time given to repent is mercy on Gods part. 2. Aaron’s sons were priests and leaders of the community. They set an example for millions of people and generations to come. In gods knowledge of all things and all time he may have known that this was the time he had to make a swift action to set the standard for behavior by people in that position or for those types of duties. One of the letters in the New Testament even warns that teachers and preachers will be held to a stricter standard for the effect they can have with their influence and authority. We see Moses was forbade from entering the promised land because he struck the rock for water when god told him to speak to it. This is because god had a plan to use the rock as a picture for Christ and the salvation that came from him. Moses had already struck the rock once representing Christs death. By Moses striking the rock again he messed up the picture and faced the consequence. Only god know why one was death and the other was prohibited from the promised land. 3. I believe your New Testament example may be something similar. God knew that he needed to make an example there of how serious it was to defraud the church or use the church for social status. Clearly god has shown great mercy with some modern day “church leaders”. I do not claim to know gods intent but just sharing some of my thoughts on the matter.
@inukithesavage828
@inukithesavage828 3 жыл бұрын
Bart Erman is one of the least honest people I've ever encountered, and I don't know why everyone praises his scholarship when he constantly gets things wrong. Sometimes, seemingly, on purporse.
@nampresto143
@nampresto143 2 жыл бұрын
Nah he got some good points. And I don't think he has reasons to lie. Unless u a Jesus freak nd u think he working for the devil
@inukithesavage828
@inukithesavage828 2 жыл бұрын
@@nampresto143 He makes millions off of selling books attacking Christianity, and he has idological reasons too. He has been caught lying before.
@nampresto143
@nampresto143 2 жыл бұрын
@@inukithesavage828 Bart can be wrong on some topics but what makes u think he is doing it on purpose? To Sell books? Money? Because the bible is the most Sold book in the history of humanity, the Vatican, evangelicals etc make billions out of it.
@jackieramsbottom7458
@jackieramsbottom7458 2 жыл бұрын
Bart Erhman changes his narrative about the new testament a lot !!
@servenet299
@servenet299 Жыл бұрын
@@nampresto143 You sound like a complete moron. Unless it's purposeful, in which case you're lying. I figure it's the former.
@brandonterrell5271
@brandonterrell5271 4 жыл бұрын
So as far as genealogy of Jesus goes. One gives the account of David to Christ as the king line. Mary’s family were of the lord line, so we have “the king of kings, and the lord of lords”
@MrProudSousa
@MrProudSousa 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, I am a an atheist, and i never spent so many hours watching religious content, i enjoy, dispite not agreeing, to listen to your thoughts. Although i agree with some explanations, i can´t agree with some others. I am Portuguese, my mom as a JW, tried to raise me as a JW. My father is Catholic and other family members are protestant, and I notice flagrant translation discrepancies, in the different bibles which is perfectly normal taking into account that the bible has centuries of existence. Another thing is the vatican as confirmed to have removed 14 books from the original bible in the XVI century (maybe the inquisition removed flagrant contradictions, and we don't know how many other stuff they removed/changed) and all the bibles come from that modified version, how can people blindly follow a somewhat historically accurate book? I don't belive in god and since religion can be used to persuade people, both to justify bad deeds (holy war, etc...) and to do good deeds, I chose not to have any.
@wesleygordon1645
@wesleygordon1645 4 жыл бұрын
With such a confusing background it must be hard.All l can say is get on your knees & ask the Almighty to reveal to you himself(& mean it with all your heart). lt might take some time, but he is faithful.& will answer you !
@JabberW00kie
@JabberW00kie 4 жыл бұрын
Louis Sousa Mike has other videos addressing the variants and different translations. Furthermore, we have thousands of manuscripts from hundreds of years before the 14th century, so we know exactly what differences are present from what we have today. What we have found is that other than a few minor differences that don’t affect the message or theology, The Bible is pretty much unchanged from the earliest manuscripts that we have. I would be curious to know exactly what contradictions you were referring to that the Catholic Church supposedly removed. Can you give any examples?
@sarahsaunders5599
@sarahsaunders5599 4 жыл бұрын
The kjv (King james version) is the correct original version. Esv and NIV were changed to take important messages of jesus and God's everlasting'ness and water down powerful scriptures to deceive Christians and searchers of truth. The Catholic Church are pagan and only want money and do not want us to know our Bible nor the true God and jesus and it doesn't suit their agenda
@jamesdean8260
@jamesdean8260 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you find the idea that all bibles are translated from the bible the catholics tampered with? Modern bibles are typically translated from the thousands upon thousands of manuscripts and fragments that have been collected and verified. Not a single Bible. Check it out.
@jamesdean8260
@jamesdean8260 2 жыл бұрын
What flagrant translation discrepancies have you found? Where has the bible failed to be historically accurate?
@jayschumacher815
@jayschumacher815 8 ай бұрын
“Delays judgement and is quick to forgive”, I immediately think of the Adam n eve story.
@bstlybengali
@bstlybengali 5 жыл бұрын
so Exodus 32:14 suggests that God changed his mind. this would mean that God at some point was unsure or doesnt know the future. doesn't this contradict an all powerful perfect Creator who knows the past present and future in its entirety? thanks.
@crazyrezreppa
@crazyrezreppa 5 жыл бұрын
Did you pay any attention to the first 20 minutes?😂
@RARmz-rf3se
@RARmz-rf3se 5 жыл бұрын
God may give U a chance to repent or pray to him, so that he shall change his mind. God gives his ppl a way to save themselves. He is Most Merciful, Most generous, and Most Wise
@crazyrezreppa
@crazyrezreppa 5 жыл бұрын
@J J in the words of Rafiki from the Lion King. "Look harder"...answers to everyone's doubts and skepticism and straw arguments, are out there. It's like this, if you accept the Bible as truth, it's fairly simple to understand. If you want to doubt it and be skeptical, the answers are stil there. They just become much deeper and more complicated. I've studied probably 100 hours of in depth credible fact checked video research surrounding the Bible, ancient texts, the science/history/archeology of the Bible, the occult, secret societies, and government. And that's just the stuff outside the scripture itself. The Bible is tested and proven over and over again in a world that "the great deciever" has manipulated. I wanted to know if I was foolishly following a fake god. Now I see I was foolish only in my lack of knowledge and information.
@crazyrezreppa
@crazyrezreppa 5 жыл бұрын
@J J your reply is appreciated also. It is refreshing to hear sincere curiousity and desire for truth, rather than scoffing and mocking. I am native american, raised on a reservation. So since birth, I've been raised to doubt books and their authors, as well as those in power. So I've grown up skeptical and doubting all that is called fact or truth. And that's a great thing. Because I've also doubted what is considered common knowledge or belief. If you'll send me your email address, I'll send you a couple playlists of the most legit information I've come across. I have watched every single intently, and rewind any time I fall asleep(the info can be dry). As for slavery in biblical terms, it's important to look at the times, the verbage, what slavery looked like, what the term slavery meant...shoot me your email.
@dj_menyo839
@dj_menyo839 5 жыл бұрын
@@crazyrezreppa as an honest person with questions. You arnt presenting a very convencing point. Basically what you are saying. Keep reading till you see it as good thing. That would require a initial bias from the get go. If you put on rosy sunglasses as soon as you open your eyes in the morning. Of course everything will look pink. That doesn't make it true though... Especially when one is trying to find out the true colors to the world.
@ecoded3033
@ecoded3033 Жыл бұрын
The Bethsaida contradiction doesn’t bother me at all. I grew up in a suburb of Atlanta, but I still tell people I am from Atlanta because Atlanta is huge and really most there consider the metro area as “Atlanta” even if it’s outside of Fulton County, for example.
@jacobhulka9319
@jacobhulka9319 5 жыл бұрын
and with all these trnslations...if you change th wording you change the meaning nd it can be tken the wrong way
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 5 жыл бұрын
YA JESUS FAITH BELIEVE TRY TO WALK. NOT TO DIFF
@sarahsaunders5599
@sarahsaunders5599 4 жыл бұрын
Yea, so always stick to the King James Version. The one people were killed over as it was written and as it was propogated to other nations. Other translations were made for money loving men and for Catholic Church agendas.
@oniryuuko
@oniryuuko 4 жыл бұрын
Copyist error is a bad reason for several of the things you cite. Ahaziah was crowned twice, because of intricacies of law and circumstance led to him temporarily not being king. It's far more likely the Septuagint either contains an actual error or they thought the Hebrew had a copyist error already. Further, the list of stall counts is not comparable. One lists for stalls for horses. One lists for stalls for horses and chariots. If you want to use a chariot in a sustained battle you need multiple sets of extra horses, which is why the count of one type of stall is much higher.
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