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BIGGEST SHUNT YET! | National Railway Museum's Live Train Moves on the East Coast Main Line

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National Railway Museum

National Railway Museum

Күн бұрын

We're back with another behind-the-scenes look at our shunting operations and this time we're going bigger than ever. Nearly 50 vehicles are heading for New Hall, a brand-new building at Locomotion in Shildon so get ready to find out how we pulled it off. Follow a dedicated team of experts as iconic vehicles travel by road, crane, and make a triumphant return to the main line railway.
Welcome to the SUPER SHUNT!
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Intro
00:50 New Hall at Locomotion
01:55 The Plan
05:05 Prepping Locos at York
06:19 British Rail Class 40 D200
07:23 Testing Train Brakes
09:40 A Very Busy Day at Locomotion
10:20 Moving Aerolite
11:40 NER Snow Plough
12:28 Train Marshalling at National Railway Museum
14:00 Setting off for Shildon
14:23 Conversation Check
16:11 'Minor Adjustments'
17:10 Arrival of a Train at Shildon
18:31 More Shunting at Locomotion
19:33 Moving a British Railways Class 31
21:02 Ready to open
21:16 Credits
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@hernanmatias1428
@hernanmatias1428 Ай бұрын
Congratulations to England for preserving these pieces of railway history for the entire humanity! Greetings from Argentina
@stevepashley795
@stevepashley795 Ай бұрын
As an expat Brit now living in Oz, thank you for such an amazing video. My heart swelled with pride for the work everyone has performed. Well done to you all
@uries15
@uries15 Ай бұрын
"TREVOR!!!" Echoing back through the mists of time.
@citricamoeba
@citricamoeba Ай бұрын
Great to see a new building opening up! I must get back up North and see these locos again sometime!
@dxutube
@dxutube 14 күн бұрын
Very professionally produced without flim-flam or anything condescending
@johncottee8314
@johncottee8314 29 күн бұрын
D200 was the first and last Class 40 to leave London Liverpool Street Station. I was on the last trip in April 1988 to Norwich. It then went on to The National Railway Museum. It was a very emotional day.
@RaspberryWhy
@RaspberryWhy Ай бұрын
A very well put together video. Well done on the move. I hope to see the New Hall later this summer
@HighFell
@HighFell Ай бұрын
I had a great day cycling over from Chester le Street to Shildon to see the New Hall and the re arranged Main Hall. Fantastic that Locomotion has some additional exhibits. It’s a lovely site and staff are great. The price of a ‘can of water’ is scandalous though! Hopefully we can expect to see more new exciting exhibits at the Birthplace of the Railways 👍
@petersmith4455
@petersmith4455 Ай бұрын
why hasn't D200 been returned to service after all that hard work in the 80's to save it which Peter Kelly was involved in.and a lot of us paid in to it ?
@locomotionlotion779
@locomotionlotion779 Ай бұрын
@@petersmith4455 NRM hates diesels. Look what happened to 58050…
@cynic-al
@cynic-al Ай бұрын
They needed a child with a hornby set to plan that, it would be their dream 😅 Shame the lines aren't connected in the new shed. Having to do half a dozen lorry movements to get the thing out the back will be very expensive meaning the exhibits will never change. If the lines had been connected someone would've moved stuff around for fun.
@Dwagginz
@Dwagginz Ай бұрын
I need to make the trip up to Locomotion at some point, would love to see this collection. I am curious though, New Hall not having any natural lighting seems like a very odd choice.
@loco4loco
@loco4loco Ай бұрын
The no natural light might be to help preserve the paint and rolling stock in it
@christophervalkoinen6358
@christophervalkoinen6358 Ай бұрын
@@Dwagginz light damage is a major concern for all museum objects, although to varying degrees. It causes fading of colours and also degrades plastics. Natural light is the worst but even artificial light has an effect - it's why you won't be permitted to use flash photography in museums displaying textile and paper objects.
@DOCTORDROTT
@DOCTORDROTT Ай бұрын
I worked on 09017 many times in my BR / EWS days. It was Newport area tripper for years and also spent time as Severn Tunnel emergency loco
@keab42
@keab42 Ай бұрын
Its a shame you couldn't connect the New Hall roads to the existing ones.
@Rhoda-mb8yk
@Rhoda-mb8yk Ай бұрын
thank you for always bringing something new and interesting to watch!
@ShadowDragon8685
@ShadowDragon8685 Ай бұрын
A railway museum with only truncated tracks that cannot switch to one another, nor which connect to any operating lines, seems... Short-sighted. Moving _anything_ is going to inevitably be a palaver.
@damiendye6623
@damiendye6623 Ай бұрын
Locomotive has tracks it's just the new hall that doesn't and it hosts stuff that will never go back on the line
@ShadowDragon8685
@ShadowDragon8685 Ай бұрын
@damiendye6623 sure... But if they want to shuffle stuff around _inside_ New Hall?
@rankepicdino8194
@rankepicdino8194 27 күн бұрын
@@ShadowDragon8685 Thats what im thinking about, is it just gonna be the exact same stuff in that space? because eventually its just going to become a bit boring
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 15 күн бұрын
If they don't move things around in the shed, people will see video and pictures of it, and, at best, they might decide to visit the place once, and then never return. At worst, they'll think that they've seen everything in videos and photographs, and choose never to visit such a fossilised display. Move things around regularly, to highlight specific vehicles for special occasions, and people will visit repeatedly. 'Variety is the spice of life.'
@benkai09
@benkai09 Ай бұрын
Owww interesting. Now you've made the space whats going in their place
@christophervalkoinen6358
@christophervalkoinen6358 Ай бұрын
@@benkai09 the majority of the vehicles in new hall were previously stored in the open air and part of this project's aims was to ensure as much as our collection is under cover as possible. So we're not creating much new space versus improving the storage we had. However, you will find some new arrivals in York - particularly Cheltenham and Henry Oakley which have returned from loans in the last couple of months.
@WizardsToenail
@WizardsToenail Ай бұрын
Keep these videos coming. 👍🏻👍🏻
@oo0spartanized0oo
@oo0spartanized0oo Ай бұрын
Lovely video, was great to see the ES1 in the daylight. To every "expert" in the comments, if you dont have any thing nice or constructive to say, then dont say anything at all. I agree, their are somethings i would have preferred. But i dont have any experience running a museam and neither do you. Im just glad its getting investment after being made part of the science group.
@SabotsLibres
@SabotsLibres Ай бұрын
How do you know that none of the comments are made by people with experience?
@oo0spartanized0oo
@oo0spartanized0oo Ай бұрын
Go have a read. It's mostly complaining coupled with pretentiousness.
@SabotsLibres
@SabotsLibres Ай бұрын
@@oo0spartanized0oo I've read, and there are some very good points being made...
@oo0spartanized0oo
@oo0spartanized0oo Ай бұрын
@SabotsLibres theirs a few more since I put my comment on. I do agree that not every point being made is bad, I did say that I don't personally agree with all the choices. But my comment was more aimed at those who were making unescesserly derogatory, pretentious and mocking comments. It's 100% fair to have an opion, just don't voice it in such a manner. I wasn't addressing every comment made in my intial comment.
@Micheal_stone
@Micheal_stone Ай бұрын
Honestly these look pretty cool I wish I could visit it 😅👌
@ObviousSchism
@ObviousSchism Ай бұрын
What a massive shunt.
@pumpkinthevibeycat
@pumpkinthevibeycat Ай бұрын
When i first saw D200, I thought it was KOYLI and I nearly got sooo mad 🤣
@markeast74
@markeast74 Ай бұрын
im assuming their doing this so they can do the renovations and upgrades to the nrm, because they're having renovations done to it to build new areas and to update existing ones, so they're moving everything to locomotion so when they do it, the trains don't get in the way, and when its done they'll be brought back to the nrm, so this is a temporary thing, and the locomotion museum is still opening so people still have a place to go to see the trains but also because its a train museum so of course its gonna be open, so this is pretty cool because not only do you have the normal trains there, but ones that are there temporarily there to, cool.
@NatRailwayMuseum
@NatRailwayMuseum Ай бұрын
This is no temporary holding area. New Hall is an exhibition space, each road is themed and inside you'll receive an insight into Shildon's crucial role in railway history. It will not be deserted when work in York is completed. Things will keep moving about every now and then as they always have done, to keep displays interesting and support events and exhibitions across all sites. A lot of the objects in New Hall have been waiting for a proper home for a while and it's not the case that there's been a mass eviction from York.
@markeast74
@markeast74 Ай бұрын
@@NatRailwayMuseum the idea of having each road specifically themed to something is cool, also, having engines moving to either the nrm or locomotion is also nice as say if you go to the nrm once, then when you next go its there again could get boring after awhile so keeping things fresh is always welcome and also wherever the objects that need a home end up, im sure it'll be a good home at that.
@rosewhite---
@rosewhite--- Ай бұрын
Should have used wooden sleepers!
@joshslater2426
@joshslater2426 Ай бұрын
To the National Railway Museum, please don’t give away any more of your locos or rolling stock. The museum has felt more and more empty every time I’ve visited, and many of my favourite exhibits are no longer there. Please don’t send Henry Oakley away either, as it has only just come back on display for the first time in years, and I intend to go see it.
@emt43043
@emt43043 Ай бұрын
@@joshslater2426stop crying
@joshslater2426
@joshslater2426 Ай бұрын
I would stop crying, but it genuinely puts me off going to the NRM because it’s gotten progressively more and more empty.
@thomasm1964
@thomasm1964 Ай бұрын
​@@joshslater2426Shildon is near Darlington. They have created a new hall there and that is where the locos are going.
@mrjnuts1
@mrjnuts1 Ай бұрын
@@joshslater2426 Not everyone can get to york. you know. NRM is loaning some gwr locos to steam in swindon.
@napsbrickrailways2290
@napsbrickrailways2290 Ай бұрын
They’re not giving away their locos, if I’m correct Locomotion is owned by the NRM. They’re just moving some of their locos and stock to somewhere more convenient, especially considering the maintenance needed at the NRM building in York.
@StephenBishopNOMAD
@StephenBishopNOMAD Ай бұрын
Ive driven d200 at bury ❤
@jonathanirons231
@jonathanirons231 Ай бұрын
"... but there's a problem ..." the stalwart of all good documentaries. I hate it with such a passion. It's already interesting. Just tell the story.
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 15 күн бұрын
'As the sun sinks slowly in the West.' is another one which raises ire. Where else does the sun set? In any case, there was no problem with the logistics of the move; there were a number of challenges perhaps, but not problems. The only problems lie in the lack of logic in choosing such a ridiculous site and rail structure for the new museum building.
@Victorianification
@Victorianification 10 күн бұрын
And the prolific overuse of the word 'iconic'.
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev Ай бұрын
D5500 would be much better in green too to denote its historic significance. As it is it just looks like 'one more diesel'
@rankepicdino8194
@rankepicdino8194 Ай бұрын
Why have you moved the LMS carriage??? It was fine where it was with both duchess and mallard having their own unique carriages behind them?
@BrokenIET
@BrokenIET Ай бұрын
I know right! It looked so good! If they’d moved Duchess of Hamilton as well I wouldn’t have minded so much, but to only move the coach seems so idiotic.
@rankepicdino8194
@rankepicdino8194 Ай бұрын
@@BrokenIET Exactly, Well now duchess of Hamilton can join the group of locomotives that are utterly in a shamble in the great hall like the Q1 sat thinking where has its tender gone, meanwhile it is sat outside begging to be let back in. Edit: Just realised in a recent video they have also removed the engine that has been cut in half, allowing you to see the inner workings ... Another questionable choice
@ballbag
@ballbag Ай бұрын
Makes no sense does it. Same as when they split apart the APT to make room leaving a random APT carriage spare
@rankepicdino8194
@rankepicdino8194 Ай бұрын
@@ballbag That is even more baffling 😂
@rankepicdino8194
@rankepicdino8194 27 күн бұрын
@@BrokenIET Update: i found where they put the lms carriage , its in the Shildon main hall plonked behind a diesel in a slightly dark spot, Just like @ballbag said aswell, The APT has been seperated and split apart inside the musuem... they just don't seem to like having the overal train completed together
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev Ай бұрын
I do wish they'd restore D200 to running order.
@RailwayWorld_2023
@RailwayWorld_2023 Ай бұрын
Please save some old BR EMUs for the National collection!!!! their just as important as steam and diesels in railway history!
@britishrailclass
@britishrailclass 21 күн бұрын
Gotta dig some pockets or you can dream on…
@HowardLeVert
@HowardLeVert Ай бұрын
I used to go on steam railtours to York and have a break in the museum. If all that's going to be left there is a Japanese electric, a Chinese steam locomotive and Mallard, it hardly seems worth visiting.
@pumpkinthevibeycat
@pumpkinthevibeycat Ай бұрын
They still have KOYLI :)
@Inucroft
@Inucroft Ай бұрын
The NRM York is under major, and i MEAN major, renovations currently /)_- That entire quarter is being redeveloped
@LNER985
@LNER985 Ай бұрын
The NRM at York is worth visiting.
@RailwayWorld_2023
@RailwayWorld_2023 Ай бұрын
National Railway Museum Please save class 58050!!!!
@wrangerrob
@wrangerrob Ай бұрын
It would have been great at Doncaster Museum, but they only put in 2 tracks. It ought to be somewhere, easy to take engine doors off and identify parts as 35028 steamer..
@davidpeacock40
@davidpeacock40 Ай бұрын
So sad to see D200 effectively plinthed never to run again.
@Micheal_stone
@Micheal_stone Ай бұрын
Ik 😕
@napsbrickrailways2290
@napsbrickrailways2290 Ай бұрын
@@davidpeacock40 oh well, at least we have class 40s like D213 still running
@davidpeacock40
@davidpeacock40 Ай бұрын
@@napsbrickrailways2290 Not forgetting D212, 40106, 40118, 40135 and D345. Sadly the NRM should rebrand as the national flying Scotsmen and royal train museum.
@andylaws4247
@andylaws4247 Ай бұрын
Send D200 back to TO for some TLC.
@marekjeglorz7120
@marekjeglorz7120 Ай бұрын
🎉🎉🎉
@London1064
@London1064 Ай бұрын
Great video
@SabotsLibres
@SabotsLibres Ай бұрын
What an error, creating a hall of rail vehicles, at a railway site, and not connecting it to any form of access lines. Every new movement, arrival or departure will need an external contractor - with accompanying costs - to be realized (although it’s good news for Allelys!)
@michaelbolt4530
@michaelbolt4530 Ай бұрын
Typically British modern thinking 😩
@TheMightyKinkle
@TheMightyKinkle 2 күн бұрын
Cool video. So are the NRM and Locomotion the same 'museum company' then?
@Rob1972Gem
@Rob1972Gem Ай бұрын
So that explains why last month I went to the National Railway Museum at York and was very disappointed. There was literally nothing much there. I was heartbroken. I spent years wanting to go the moment I go there’s pretty much nothing there and now it sounds like I’m only a few minutes into this video most of the collections going further up north, if that’s the case I never go back to the York site ever again because that was not worth going if this is their major plan I think it’s a mistake
@NatRailwayMuseum
@NatRailwayMuseum Ай бұрын
@@Rob1972Gem That's more to do with various parts of the museum being closed, and some locos being off display for conservation work, rather than the shunt taking place in this video. If you look in New Hall, not much of what is there has come from Great Hall or elsewhere in York
@Northerner_Transport_Hub
@Northerner_Transport_Hub Ай бұрын
What doesn't help is the fact that they've been storing some locomotives outside recently too.
@Rob1972Gem
@Rob1972Gem Ай бұрын
@@NatRailwayMuseum I understand they’re having work done but there is literally hardly anything there very disappointing DP1 prototype Deltic not there all the things to take away why that one? The amount of people I heard complaining that they wish that was there and the load of people saying that was the main reason they went Very poor the way they’re working around the work which apparently is gone way over schedule
@easternrailfreight
@easternrailfreight 7 күн бұрын
Now get 55002 back on the mainline after the restoration group's hard work.
@terrier_productions
@terrier_productions Ай бұрын
Any plans for Rail200?
@rosewhite---
@rosewhite--- Ай бұрын
New shed looks a bit dark?
@justinobrien3593
@justinobrien3593 Ай бұрын
D200 & 31018 need to be made usable in running condition and do a raiitour as well as D6700 and get them earning money 💰 + now all the best locomotives are gone from york so the NRM need some decent loco's to replace what they have hired out or sold on! also D8000 the prototype class 20 where has it vanished to!!! Good video 😍
@blackjockofmangertonpele
@blackjockofmangertonpele Ай бұрын
Good man, I'll look forward to your investment in getting those three back on the main line. I've got as long as you like.
@damiendye6623
@damiendye6623 Ай бұрын
They wasn't sold just moved to another site.
@matthew0605
@matthew0605 Ай бұрын
Are all the national rail museums still free entry, I'm not a killjoy but museums are usually free entry and so they should be as far as I'm concerned, but all the splaff on moving all the locos must cost money so I'm just curious .
@NatRailwayMuseum
@NatRailwayMuseum Ай бұрын
Yeah it's still free admission for all Science Museum Group museums, including Locomotion and the National Railway Museum. Always worth checking our websites for the latest info.
@damiendye6623
@damiendye6623 Ай бұрын
So you would rather not have them moved to better buildings 😂
@Roethorn_pb
@Roethorn_pb Ай бұрын
​@@damiendye6623I'm pretty sure the longterm security is actually least of the issue, and the concern is primarily over the ability to service stock and keep it on workings (live rails).
@britishrailclass
@britishrailclass 21 күн бұрын
What’s ashame is that the locomotives and vehicles will never return to its full operational condition given the understanding of the reasonings. The idea of the new hall is somewhat odd although this can be towed by the looks of things however will take somewhat hours or days to do so. Understandably this may be to do with costs and nature of the land in terms of space. The nature of NRM themselves is pretty odd in terms of its exhibit although I have never been other than looking at photos itself. The science lab itself is somewhat odd but will give credits for adding bits and bobs that are relevant to the railway. At the end of the day, NRMs a museum as what it stands for and it isn’t a heritage railway with the exception it does have a demonstration line in Shildon. For those commenting to bring a certain vehicles or locomotives. If you have the money to make something operational or whatever, crack on you can do it. If not, then accept fate. As the saying goes “action speaks louder than words”.
@harrypenn611
@harrypenn611 Ай бұрын
Cheltenham please !!
@rodneybates2135
@rodneybates2135 Ай бұрын
What a stupid idea not having direct rail access to the new hall! At least a traverser would have made sense. Probably would have cost the same as the low loaders to move all of this stuff!
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Ай бұрын
Are you willing to stump up more money in the form of tax and donations?
@rodneybates2135
@rodneybates2135 Ай бұрын
@@neiloflongbeck5705 how much did moving all of those items on low loaders cost vs installing a traverser and a spur line. If the my didn’t spend all their money on grand waste of space atriums and play cafes it might be value for money.
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Ай бұрын
@rodneybates2135 a lot less. A traverser is for life, a low-loader is for the moment. Also, the spur tracks would have to be long enough for the longest wheelbase vehicle to pass over including any vertical curves (a Class 40,for example, cannot handle vertical curves of less than 18 chains).as for the atrium and play cafés, sounds .ike you want a more Victorian atmosphere i the museum with every item properly stuffed and mounted. Well, you have to join the modern world. Not every visitor holds your views,not every visitor is old enough to appreciate the exhibits due to their age.
@Kitchevo
@Kitchevo Ай бұрын
To be honest as a lifelong enthusiast and many time visitor to York and Sheldon both as a visitor and operationally on support crew I now wouldn’t go back, they are interpreted badly, the exhibits have no cohesion, not enough exhibits are loaned out, just a lifeless grand coffee shop. The management never listen to feedback, the loss of the works was a travesty. Cheap cheap cheap is their motto, and what should be the jewel in our crown is nothing more than a warehouse badly interpreted
@rankepicdino8194
@rankepicdino8194 Ай бұрын
We couldn't stop laughing when we went to the viewing gallery with my mum excited to stand there again and sit on the seats.. only to find out they shoved air conditioners Infront of the seats for.. Suprise suprise.. WONDERLAB!!! Not only have we lost the works, but the signalling exhibition has been absolutely stripped of all of the interactive parts like building the wooden train and driving that mini model in a circle with the signal.. they go on about wanting it to be more interactive as they wreck the most interactive space???
@Kitchevo
@Kitchevo Ай бұрын
@@rankepicdino8194 agreed, and also a national railway museum with a franchise operated miniature railway and only certain standard gauge rides using hired in engines?! Shildon a bit different but I drove 142s for over 10 years! It’s an absolute disgrace, they need to learn from the French national railway museum and quickly
@ConfusedOxygen
@ConfusedOxygen Ай бұрын
@@rankepicdino8194going in for the first time in a few years and seeing the works gone was devastating for me. What a waste of space.
@rankepicdino8194
@rankepicdino8194 Ай бұрын
@@ConfusedOxygen Me and my mums reaction when we realised that the works was removed, our hearts were broken, my strongest memory of the entire museum was seeing the flying Scotsman in the works
@jammiedodger7040
@jammiedodger7040 27 күн бұрын
Shouldn’t the furniture removal van not be at National Railway Museum York?
@joncrawford3485
@joncrawford3485 Ай бұрын
You NRM folks really don't like that class 31 do you? "Moving a British Railways Class 37"?! It's the last surviving Toffee Apple Brush Type 2 and the first production BR diesel loco with cabs at both ends (the LMS & SR diesels before it were prototypes). Oddly, my relative based at Stratford TMD was the first BR driver to drive both D200 (LST to NRW) & D5500 (LST to Yarmouth SouthTown) in revenue earning service.
@mrjnuts1
@mrjnuts1 Ай бұрын
Okay like a peacock my instrest has been peaked. the last shunting video was a good watch. I'm sure this will be too.
@peterwoodley7473
@peterwoodley7473 Ай бұрын
Can you make carriage are more accessible for disabled last time i went 2 week ago the area was blocked off
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Ай бұрын
How can they do that without damaging a historic vehicle? Or are you just wanting to be able to see into them from outside?
@ServiusTheBear
@ServiusTheBear Ай бұрын
Well looks like al have alot more places to go to. Which kinda sucks. But I can understand
@trepicks
@trepicks Ай бұрын
Since when was Shildon in Scotland? Check your map six minutes in approx!!
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Ай бұрын
It was created by some in or from the south, where SNOW means Somewhere North of Watford [Gap].
@Jonathan-jw4uu
@Jonathan-jw4uu Ай бұрын
@@neiloflongbeck5705 😁 Very True
@blackjockofmangertonpele
@blackjockofmangertonpele Ай бұрын
Shildon is obviously a suburb of Hawick! 😂
@colinhead284
@colinhead284 Ай бұрын
So what you've created is a locomotive shed for " storing " engines , nothing is set out for people to stand back to look at , who wants to just stare up at everything ?? you'd come out of there with neck ache
@philnewcomers9170
@philnewcomers9170 Ай бұрын
its bad enoughgoing to York but Dalington ,i ask you? ttfn&ty
@averagetrainspotterireland
@averagetrainspotterireland Ай бұрын
can you save the last 313 fro scrap?
@britishrailclass
@britishrailclass 21 күн бұрын
There’s 2 preserved.
@silverfox4684
@silverfox4684 29 күн бұрын
Shildon the worlds first railway town? Is this correct?
@NatRailwayMuseum
@NatRailwayMuseum 29 күн бұрын
You might want to have a read of these stories: www.locomotion.org.uk/objects-and-stories/life-booming-railway-town www.locomotion.org.uk/objects-and-stories/shildon-cradle-railways
@Northerner_Transport_Hub
@Northerner_Transport_Hub Ай бұрын
1:20 'This is New Hall, a brand new prison where locomotives and wagons will probably never see the light of day again'
@stephenbennett1989
@stephenbennett1989 Ай бұрын
These locos will never rerurn a very sad day
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Ай бұрын
For a one-off like Aerolite and the NER M1 Class, that's not a bad thing.
@richardhancock2771
@richardhancock2771 Ай бұрын
We're to is the museum going to
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 15 күн бұрын
Are we? Thanks! If I'm understanding your statement correctly...
@edscoble
@edscoble 6 күн бұрын
How come there's no closed captioning in this one?
@NatRailwayMuseum
@NatRailwayMuseum 6 күн бұрын
That's odd, I'll have a look and let you know when it's sorted.
@TheMightyKinkle
@TheMightyKinkle 2 күн бұрын
There are auto generated ones
@johnfuller-bn2hs
@johnfuller-bn2hs Ай бұрын
Ah these are all just vehicles now , not locomotives or engines just vehicles. Simplistic management speak just take the passion, pleasure and emotion out of it all. so it no longer matters where these "vehicles" are any more. Forget all the history as these are only vehicles
@octopus680
@octopus680 Ай бұрын
I was thinking the same when i was watching.
@michaelbird3183
@michaelbird3183 Ай бұрын
For the pure logistics of moving them aroubd it's easier to refer to them all as a vehicle. On the plan they can be given a number (1, 2, 3 e.t.c.) which everyone can understand instead of having to reference the loco/wagon number
@trainsimulatordriver
@trainsimulatordriver Ай бұрын
Only a museum could see a basic shunt as a huge logistical project. Get a loco and get it done. This is a morning's work before tea. 😂
@oo0spartanized0oo
@oo0spartanized0oo Ай бұрын
Unless you've done it yourself, you can't really talk.
@trainsimulatordriver
@trainsimulatordriver Ай бұрын
@@oo0spartanized0oo mate don't let the channel name fool you - I'm an engineman - this is what I do every day I'm on the railway lol
@oo0spartanized0oo
@oo0spartanized0oo Ай бұрын
@trainsimulatordriver I'm gonna assume their were a lot of other factors, such as the loaders and what not. When they refer to the logistical operation, they probably mean getting all that too. Either way, theirs no need to be pretentious. They did well and have helped to preserve some lovely bits of railway history.
@citricamoeba
@citricamoeba Ай бұрын
Did you hear the part where they said there wasn't rail access, making your suggestion literally impossible?
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Ай бұрын
Do you take vehicle from one set of sidings ro another that isn't connected by rails? If you do, then your comment is appreciated, if not...
@benoregan9525
@benoregan9525 Ай бұрын
A similar move also happened in NSW: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGmydJWJpdGhiJo
@scmorton2370
@scmorton2370 Ай бұрын
I wish they keep all steam and old stock at one museum diesel and modern other musum
@FinnSainty-z9v
@FinnSainty-z9v 29 күн бұрын
Hello where are the two west coast diesel parked
@Dr22J2
@Dr22J2 29 күн бұрын
I've seen the class 37 loch Rannoch parked in fort William sidings
@FinnSainty-z9v
@FinnSainty-z9v 29 күн бұрын
​@@Dr22J2why did they have to get the two west coast diesels off site?
@Dr22J2
@Dr22J2 29 күн бұрын
@@FinnSainty-z9v I guess because they did not have two locomotives that could pull the trains
@FinnMikazukiVT-kl5lp
@FinnMikazukiVT-kl5lp 28 күн бұрын
Hello ​@@Dr22J2why didn't they just use the two west coast diesels to shunt the train
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 15 күн бұрын
@@FinnMikazukiVT-kl5lp Because shutters are especially designed for the job, small and less expensive to run.
@locomotionlotion779
@locomotionlotion779 Ай бұрын
As someone that once worked at Kingmoor, it's always cute seeing a 10 minute job being referred to as a "super shunt"... Even seeing all the parts on the table being shifted about (2:37) to visualise it makes me giggle. A good shunter can do ALL of that, for the whole yard, in their heads. One of my colleagues can keep all the moves for a full 12 hours of solid shunting, in a fairly awkward yard, in his head. It's truly incredible to watch him dart in and out of wagons and trains like a ferret, while watching his puzzles all move around each other and then into place. Even at 18:44, there's so many people doing what I see to be the job of one shunter and one driver. Moral of the story; get a professional in next time.
@kevfrombutterley
@kevfrombutterley Ай бұрын
It seems there always has to be a "problem" in these sort of programmes. Maybe someone here who's been to film school knows why it seems that way.
@davemitchell9941
@davemitchell9941 Ай бұрын
😂👍🤣xactly!! & mind the paintwork. Mountains outa molehills @ taxpayers expense.
@jameslikesbooks
@jameslikesbooks Ай бұрын
They're not a railway company. They're a museum. They're not locomotives. They're museum exhibits. I thought it was a great video that showed the planning and care that went into moving some really special exhibits between new buildings.
@oo0spartanized0oo
@oo0spartanized0oo Ай бұрын
Yes because the yard at kingmoor is exactly like this. In addition, you worked at kingmoor and you say this takes ten minutes? Okay buddy. Stop being pretentious.
@kevfrombutterley
@kevfrombutterley Ай бұрын
@@jameslikesbooks Some of them are locomotives AND museum exhibits 🤣
@gycuk1173
@gycuk1173 Ай бұрын
But why would you have a shed but not rail connected? Why have a bus museum but no road. What a waste and a sad amount of money wasted moving trains. In a country trying to be carbon natural
@andrewbatty8954
@andrewbatty8954 23 күн бұрын
Neutral even.
@kevinverdon4341
@kevinverdon4341 4 сағат бұрын
Shildon is rail connected always has been even in the days before the museum.
@PeaveyPV20
@PeaveyPV20 3 сағат бұрын
There is a rail connection to the bishop auckland to saltburn line
@craigsutherland3410
@craigsutherland3410 Ай бұрын
I used to visit the NRM every year when holidaying in the area. What with a combination of weekday closures, exhibits being closed off and seemingly endless renovation and refurbishment works, overpriced food and drinks, £10 for parking (yes, you did read that right), I don't think I'll bother for a few years. Why are they taking the class 31 and 40 away? They were one of the top attractions? It's not the same place as 20 years ago - sorry.
@DisleyDavid
@DisleyDavid Ай бұрын
In fairness the parking is the only charge. If you arrive by train or bus you obviously don't need to pay anything. Admission is free. I agree the food is too expensive.
@cjmillsnun
@cjmillsnun 21 күн бұрын
@@DisleyDavid Simple solution for the food. Bring your owm.
@DisleyDavid
@DisleyDavid 21 күн бұрын
@@cjmillsnun Obviously. Lots of other places to eat in York too.
@leonperry123
@leonperry123 Ай бұрын
Every time I went to York my son has had the same photo next to that 31. I guess I can't take anymore photos.
@NatRailwayMuseum
@NatRailwayMuseum Ай бұрын
What a great way to chart his growth! Fancy a trip to Shildon?
@rodneybates2135
@rodneybates2135 Ай бұрын
@@NatRailwayMuseumperhaps if you run a shuttle between venues people might visit. It takes hours to get from York to Sheldon by regular services.
@ShadowDragon8685
@ShadowDragon8685 Ай бұрын
@@rodneybates2135 I mean... Being a railway museum, if they actually had that shuttle be something like the surviving InterCity Pullmans, you could make that one hell of a day outing.
@georgethomas7814
@georgethomas7814 Ай бұрын
Why does New Hall not have its own mainline connection?
@pikablob
@pikablob Ай бұрын
It’s probably just where they’ve built it? It’s not a small facility - there may not have been a suitable plot of land near enough to the existing track to build a connection.
@georgethomas7814
@georgethomas7814 Ай бұрын
@@pikablob I am sure there are engineers out there who could have come up with fundable options.
@oo0spartanized0oo
@oo0spartanized0oo Ай бұрын
Speaking to one of the staff at Shildon, they are intended for permenant static display. No need for a mainline connection if they never intend to get them out again. A shame, as I would have loved to see the ES1 running.
@damiendye6623
@damiendye6623 Ай бұрын
​@@oo0spartanized0oowhere would it run as there is no 1500v DC overhead. That the same that stops the em1 running at York.
@oo0spartanized0oo
@oo0spartanized0oo Ай бұрын
@damiendye6623 it has pickup shoes, so a third rail would work too. The Tyne and Wear metro actually still works on overhead power lines. It would never run their, but it could work. The line runs directly through where she used to work too.
@jasoncutler4645
@jasoncutler4645 27 күн бұрын
Since when has Shildon been in the Scottish Borders? 😂
@RailwayWorld_2023
@RailwayWorld_2023 Ай бұрын
at 19:33 its a Class 31 not a 37...
@leftboot83
@leftboot83 Ай бұрын
They said 31, if you listen to it.
@RailwayWorld_2023
@RailwayWorld_2023 Ай бұрын
@leftboot83 no I mean on the list of chapters in the description
@grahamrowley1691
@grahamrowley1691 2 сағат бұрын
What an absolute bunch of negative people commenting on this video. It is what it is, if you don't like it or what they do then go somewhere else and whinge like little kids.
@sjcsystems
@sjcsystems Ай бұрын
Am I the only one who cannot understand why this new hall is not rail connected? Seems utterly stupid
@citricamoeba
@citricamoeba Ай бұрын
Im assuming they've been forced to position it in such a way that there isn't the space for a rail connection
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Ай бұрын
Lack on money and space. The New Hall is higher than the Main Hall. A Class 40 cannot handle a vertical curve that is has a radius of less than 18 chains (1 chains 66ft).
@clivebroadhead4381
@clivebroadhead4381 Ай бұрын
What is the point of disperse the exhibits? Is it to reduce costs and increase revenue. If so why not move some exhibts to London to get more visitors?
@damiendye6623
@damiendye6623 Ай бұрын
By having the exhibits at different sites they have less chance of total loss in an incident.
@lolzlolz102
@lolzlolz102 28 күн бұрын
@@damiendye6623 While that might be technically true that won't be the reason for a second building. It's simply about expansion.
@ballbag
@ballbag Ай бұрын
Its funny how the NRM only likes or replies to positive comments. Says a lot
@cedarcam
@cedarcam Ай бұрын
I am disappointed seeing how everything is so closely packed in there you cannot walk around the exhibits just up and down each row, and no way will you be able to take any photos or video even with a wide angle lens. York will not be worth going to either now unless there is some special event on. I used to call in there often before all this started, to see progress on Sir Nigel and before that Flying Scotsman. Now one of my favourite exhibits has been sent to Burry Transport Museum another to Doncaster and another to Shildon.
@jameslikesbooks
@jameslikesbooks Ай бұрын
And what's the bad thing about that? Now those museums have another attraction that can bring people in through the door.
@cedarcam
@cedarcam Ай бұрын
@@jameslikesbooks I don't mind they have a 2nd museum to visit but they have taken so much away from York and replaced it with a cafe and kids play area, done away with the restoration area and viewing gallery and done away with the locomotive servicing area. I suspect another exhibit is soon to be moved with another working from Carnforth, NRM to Shildon in the schedule shows on Railcam UK data
@martynbutterworth9704
@martynbutterworth9704 11 күн бұрын
Bit embarrassing the drama and the wages being paid, bonus to the guy using the pinch bar very dramatic
@Braveplantt
@Braveplantt Ай бұрын
POV: you play chess
@scytr3934
@scytr3934 28 күн бұрын
Absolutely ridiculous 😂 shunt moves planned by logistic and project managers 😂 its the job of the PIC , nobody else should be getting involved.
@darkerrorcode
@darkerrorcode 28 күн бұрын
womp womp
@TheStevewhelan
@TheStevewhelan Ай бұрын
Could you not move the collection even further North to make it more inaccessible? It seems to be the trend 😞 Why not Birmingham to bring it more towards the centre of the British Isles?
@cedarcam
@cedarcam Ай бұрын
A few years ago the plan was to move things to Leicester North at the end of the Great Central Railway. There was a big banner on a wall The New Home of the NRM
@wideyxyz2271
@wideyxyz2271 Ай бұрын
Its nuts. The collection is even more fragmented now!
@cedarcam
@cedarcam Ай бұрын
@@wideyxyz2271 Yes. I know another exhibit was sent to Cornwall.
@Clare-t7f
@Clare-t7f Ай бұрын
Because Shildon is well-known as the cradle of the railways, and the North deserves to be proud of their heritage, industrial or otherwise. The collection deserves to be there as a monument to the hardwork of the local people who grafted to make the railways and locomotions what they are today. Funnily enough, it is not inaccessible especially if you go by rail 😉
@cedarcam
@cedarcam Ай бұрын
@@Clare-t7f It depends where you live, or stay on holiday. York is on a main line and just a short 5 mins walk from station to museum entrance Shildon a little over one hour by train from York then a 15 mins walk from the station to the museum entrance. I agree Shildon is a very important town in our railways history and deserves a good museum but moving so many of our National collection there and displaying it in a way that is a lot less inviting than the NRM did is not a good idea to me.
@TheI3lacky
@TheI3lacky Ай бұрын
Actually really sad Video... no outside connection anymore... and looks really cramped.
@EssexCountyPhoto
@EssexCountyPhoto 26 күн бұрын
Vehicles???... What, like cars???...
@grahamrowley1691
@grahamrowley1691 2 сағат бұрын
vehicle noun UK /ˈvɪə.kəl/ US /ˈviː.ə.kəl/ vehicle noun (MACHINE) Add to word list B1 [ C ] formal a machine, usually with wheels and an engine, used for transporting people or goods, especially on land:
@EssexCountyPhoto
@EssexCountyPhoto 2 сағат бұрын
@@grahamrowley1691 ... CONDESCENDING adjective con·​de·​scend·​ing [kän-di-ˈsen-diŋ] -Synonyms of condescending: patronizing, arrogant, domineering, disdainful, bossy, supercilious, impudent, authoritarian, uppity, haughty, snooty, pretentious, pontifical, assumptive, snobbish, high-and-mighty- Showing or characterized by a patronizing or superior attitude toward others. Usually used by lefty liberals who wrongly assume that everyone else is an uneducated pleb. ... Also, after nearly 20 years working on the railway, I've never heard anyone use that word in that sense. But hey, I guess you know better. (Furthermore, I wasn't born in the UK, and English isn't my first language. But thank you for the explanation, I feel enlightened, and I shall sleep much better tonight)
@DaleDix
@DaleDix 4 күн бұрын
A whole new shed for trains that has no railway lines going to it. Even a small child would find the absurdity of that glaringly obvious.
@grahamrowley1691
@grahamrowley1691 3 сағат бұрын
The levels between the new hall and the line are too different to allow a rail link. Just go and enjoy it or forget it.
@MrMartyp2004
@MrMartyp2004 Ай бұрын
Whatever happened to the NRM that put hardwicke, cheltenham, the Stirling single, duchess of hamilton, mallard, black 5 5000, the super D and the midland compound back in steam and getting diesels back on the main line, including the prototype HST..this new NRM is too worried about static exhibitions...gone to the dogs...you have 14yrs till mallards 100th anniversary of the world speed record..get it back on the mainline
@jameslikesbooks
@jameslikesbooks Ай бұрын
...because they're a museum, not a heritage railway
@tuppyglossop222
@tuppyglossop222 Ай бұрын
No. Mallard is an important museum piece that needs to be preserved for future generations. It is not a toy to be played with on the big mainline train set.
@Steampete12
@Steampete12 Ай бұрын
I’m ok with them not having lots of things running but surely something should be operating. I get that the uk has an extraordinary number of working heritage railways but look at the name of this place, the National Rail Museum. We are back in Australia after our first trip to the Uk. Being train mad we visited Swanage, Didcot and Gloucestershire Warwickshire railways plus Swindon, Crewe and the NRM. Hands down, my wife and I were both disappointed in the NRM. Lots of shiny locos but all just felt dead. Swindon told the story of how locos were built, the role railways played in society with holidays, plus it had a great interactive little signal box where you could operative a lever frame to move trains around. Crewe took the signal box experience to another with a signalman running through a typical day, I spent an hour operating that lever frame, listening to bell codes etc. the coolest thing about the NRM was the original signal teaching layout in the second hall, which is kind of like a storeroom you can wander through. It only operated occasionally and I had missed it by a week. I guess perhaps some of people running this museum don’t realise that for many people, like overseas tourists, we don’t get to come back every 3 months to check on the progress of things and see what new things are on display. You do not have take my word for this, try going to the Japans National Railway Musuem. Amazing, lots of displays, lots of locos you can pop into and sit, for example, in the drivers seat of a Shinkansen. They also have a roundhouse attached to the museum with yes, steam locomotives in steam. The coolest thing about going to the NRM for me was standing on the platform at York and seeing two active Class 37s come into the station, stop for bit, then growl on out. Maybe York will be amazing one day, when all the work in complete, who knows. Sorry for the length, I am pretty passionate about railways, even did a driving day on the Gloucester Warwickshire Railway, driving and firing their 2807 GWR locomotive, that was an amazing day.
@BrokenIET
@BrokenIET Ай бұрын
@@tuppyglossop222Research has shown that locomotives when properly cared for last just as long in service as when they‘re sat in a museum.
@chrishartley4553
@chrishartley4553 Ай бұрын
@@BrokenIET But they are also much more expensive to maintain. And its cost that is the deciding factor. The Science Museum, of which the NRM is a part, has like many quangos had is funding slashed. It can't afford to do what it used to.
@hughthatlovestrains
@hughthatlovestrains 17 күн бұрын
Why are they moving everything from the national railway museum in York to locomotion shilden what about stuff at york
@grahamrowley1691
@grahamrowley1691 3 сағат бұрын
They aren't.
@rodcook5898
@rodcook5898 Ай бұрын
I cannot believe that this part of the NRM is not connected by rail to the system. Surely heads should role of those involved in the design and selection of the site.
@ballbag
@ballbag Ай бұрын
The NRM at York also allowed one of their yards to be completely disconnected from the network too. They only have the rail connection at the Great Hall now and not at the big yard area.
@wrangerrob
@wrangerrob Ай бұрын
How stupid. Been some great large shows in the other yard. There does look like there is space at locomotion to connect at least a couple of tracks. I was hoping that there was plans for the waste yard land opposite the main line. Could make a good demonstration line and village station display
@rankepicdino8194
@rankepicdino8194 Ай бұрын
@@wrangerrob The amount of money they could of gained aswell from that, such a great idea honestly
@kkobayashi1
@kkobayashi1 29 күн бұрын
You saw in this video that only three of these were fit to be transported via mainline rail anyway.
@lolzlolz102
@lolzlolz102 28 күн бұрын
@@kkobayashi1 Mainline is irrelevant.
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Ай бұрын
Who wrote this script? How can a Class 09 provide air to vacuum brakes? Considering this was produced for the NRM it is a poor show..
@vickielawless
@vickielawless 13 күн бұрын
Aren't class 09s dual braked? Besides, most locos have air on the locomotive, with an ability to run vacuum on the train..
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 13 күн бұрын
@@vickielawless when it comes to locomotives, dual brake refers to the locomotive being fitted with both air and vacuum train brakes and not the brakes on the locomotive which are unusalky airbrakes. I can't think of a British diesel locomotive that used vacuum brakes for its own brakes. The Class 09 had air locomotive brakes and both air and vacuum train brakes. Now sutomatic vacuum brakes come on when air is supplied to the braking system. It's a fail safe system. To take the brakes off you have to created a vacuum of 21 inches of mercury (a total vacuum is 30 inches of mercury beliw ambient air pressure).
@shinvelcro
@shinvelcro Ай бұрын
Poor York.
@MarcelosalivaTRENESArg
@MarcelosalivaTRENESArg Ай бұрын
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@starpoint271
@starpoint271 24 күн бұрын
Absolute insanity to build it without rail access when its located right next to its predecessor and the main line. Give your consultant a pay rise.
@ChilternRailPhotography
@ChilternRailPhotography 22 күн бұрын
clearly you havent watched the whole video 12:40 and 17:40 thats mainline rail access
@rodneybates2135
@rodneybates2135 22 күн бұрын
@@ChilternRailPhotographyclearly you haven’t watched the entire video. New shed has no direct rail access.
@paulkeightley6545
@paulkeightley6545 Ай бұрын
Get rid of the money pit
@robbiesonley
@robbiesonley 2 күн бұрын
that map is not even remotely accurate
@Hemeralopie
@Hemeralopie Ай бұрын
lololololoader😂
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 15 күн бұрын
So I'll never be able to see those vehicles again. They're now too far North for many people. York was still a long journey, but still reachable for a day out. Whose great idea was this?
@TheMusicalElitist
@TheMusicalElitist 13 күн бұрын
Get a life, nerd.
@easternrailfreight
@easternrailfreight 7 күн бұрын
@@TheMusicalElitist You can't say that when you are a train spotter lol
@grahamrowley1691
@grahamrowley1691 3 сағат бұрын
Just like the London museums are too far south for whingeing gits like you that live here. The south is not the centre of the universe, my friend.
@paulkeightley6545
@paulkeightley6545 Ай бұрын
Its stock NOT vehicles!!!!
@lolzlolz102
@lolzlolz102 28 күн бұрын
It is both. Both names are used within the railways.
@I_like_planesandtrains860
@I_like_planesandtrains860 4 күн бұрын
Stupid idea ngl
@justinfuller8803
@justinfuller8803 Ай бұрын
Vehicles sounds like road transport. They are engines, carriages, covered goods wagons, wagons, etc. They are also tracks or sidings not roads please.
@The60007
@The60007 Ай бұрын
I agree entirely they don't use the correct names/expressions. The people in charge don't inspire confidence. Very little if any railway experience I find it all very depressing and very irritating.
@Steampete12
@Steampete12 Ай бұрын
Maybe the road expression is an American term. I am sure I have heard of the sidings in stations or roundhouses being called roads. They do call them railroads not railways, what we call track bed they call road bed etc
@grantt82
@grantt82 Ай бұрын
They are called roads in depots which effectively this is
@najaB76
@najaB76 Ай бұрын
"They are also tracks or sidings not roads please." Not in a depot.
@dkbmaestrorules
@dkbmaestrorules Ай бұрын
Mate, I'm a complete armchair enthusiast and even I know that "roads" is a perfectly legitimate term in a yard or depot.
@pensylvania65000
@pensylvania65000 Ай бұрын
Honestly. How to make something complicated
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