BATTLETECH: Missile Carriers

[@BigRed40TECH]

Thank you all for being here. The Resources I used to make this video, are the following: Technical Readout 3026: Unavailabile Technical Readout 3026 Revised: store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-technical-readout-3026-revised-edition-pdf Technical Readout 3039: store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-technical-readout-3039-pdf Technical Readout 3060: store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-technical-readout-3060-pdf Technical Readout 3150: store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-technical-readout-3150-pdf Field Manual Draconis Combine (VERY Limited usage for video): store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-field-manual-draconis-combine-pdf For Miniatures, if your wanting the SRM / LRM Carrier in plastic, you'll need to wait a few months from the time of this video going live. The Pack that contains them is "BATTLEFIELD SUPPORT: Battle and Fire" If you want them in metal, or you can't wait, well, Iron Wind Metals has these available now: SRM Carrier: www.ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-cv/product/battletech-20-623/category_pathway-2 LRM Carrier: www.ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-cv/product/battletech-20-627/category_pathway-2 Heavy LRM Carrier: www.ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-cv/product/battletech-20-382/category_pathway-2 Light SRM Carrier: www.ironwindmetals.com/index.php/product-listing/product/battletech-ar20-371/category_pathway-2

[@jefferynelson]

thank you for the work you put into into the channel, your audience appreciates you Big Red

[@fix0the0spade]

The LRM Carrier, because you have a strategic need for fire support. The SRM Carrier, because one of us IS going to die today. The Inferno Carrier, because maniacal screeching laughter.

[@Cowboycomando54]

"Fire a warning shot at em." "Sir, this is an Arrow IV Carrier." "Yeah, and I said fire a warning shot at em."

[@Darkwings01]

The Light SRM Carrier was literally a thought of "What if we made it into a Techincal" and I absolutely love it!

[@larslaufer301]

I remember a game where I put them on the table the first time. Light City envoirment, my friend constantly missed them and they put out more damage then my mechs did. Nasty little buggers.

[@jefaus06]

Ahh yes. The SRM Carrier. The closest the Battletech game comes to a moving Claymore Mine. FRONT TOWARD ENEMY

[@TheArchaos]

"A klaxon was heard, Bitching Betty was perturbed - The AMS lit up but it would never be enough" "The armor buckled and began to bend - The cockpit was hit, the torso was near at its end" "A crit or two was enough, then the engine gave up - only the fool didn't know, how so little had laid him low."

[@chaz706]

SRM carriers: for when the answer to "How many missiles would you like to fire?" is "All of them."

[@BigRed40TECH]

Every. Missile. Ever.

[@buffewo6386]

How many? "Yes"

[@molenat9973]

I’d say that’s what the Rocket Launcher system is for. RL10/RL20 CAN fire every rocket at once. Take the Longbow LGB-OH for example. Has two PPCs and 26 RL10s. That’s 260 missiles all at one time. Not much is getting back up from that. No reloads but who cares when you need that one thing to be completely obliterated

[@44R0Ndin]

​@@molenat9973 To send Rocket Launcher equipped forces against something, my criteria are these: I must want it not just "dead", not just "scrap metal". No, that's not enough. To send a Rocket Launcher equipped combatant after something, it must have wronged me SO severely, that I want no single atom of it's constituent parts to be connected to any other single atom that once was my intended target. Thankfully, Rocket Launcher weapons are tiny, lightweight, and low-heat, compared to their one-shot damage potential when you fire every single one of them you load on to a combatant at once. They are the "I wanna nuke that thing, but I don't wanna violate the Ares Conventions" option. Somebody should seriously look into just how bananas-bonkers-crazy a "missile carrier" converted to carrying Rocket Launchers would be. My guess is you might be able to launch the better part of 1000 missiles at a single target, once. This would handily accomplish my "reduce to individual non-bonded atoms" ideal end result of sending some sort of rocket launcher thing after a target. It would also pose a serious threat to (pretty much any) Dropship, or other naval assets. And it would also level buildings trivially easily, at greater ranges than the typical engagement range of Rocket Launcher weapons (the thing's not moving, and when you fire, you probably won't be moving either, and it's not like those rockets stop when they reach the end of the long range bracket....).

[@krissteel4074]

And now we shall roll hit locations 😵

[@RyeFields]

"Hey look a bird... Thats actually a lot of birds... Oh god..." Famous last words when the OpFor has a lance of LRM carriers

[@Rellana1]

Sounds like when I played Mechwarrior Online last. Everyone and their mother spammed LRM's like it was going out of style. Deploying at least some mechs that had anti-missile systems was needed to cut down on the incoming barrage.

[@JCDadalus]

3:32 "depending on how it's offensive package is delivered" I love missile carriers because of the many offensive packages they can deliver. The Amazon Prime of the periphery.

[@Bomfunker91]

The LRM and SRM Carriers are damn near at the top of the kill-on-sight list for HBS Battletech. Absolutely terrifying little devils.

[@cale42]

Can confirm

[@moistjohn]

The SRM carrier would like to introduce you into instability and then the ground

[@marvinjohnson2488]

The 1st time I played HBS Battletech I ran into SRM carriers on the first really timed mission (the dropship lander one) . Needless to say every other I run this mission I kill these thi gs with fire assoon as I can. Those things are scary.

[@toawing]

Iv yet to encounter one on the tabletop yet but I'd probably have an srm carrier as priority target. 10 srm6s in a package costing as much as a light mech

[@Gift0r]

For this exact reason, the Israelian Army once disguised their AT missile carriers as Tanks by fitting a fake barrel to the back, so the Egyptian forces don't attack them immediately. The "Pereh" was developed during the Yom Kippur War in the 1980s but only revealed to the public in 2011, suppressing and censoring any information about them as thoroughly as possible.

[@theodoreschott3293]

I once got to watch a MLRS missle carrier fire its payload when I was on the Iraqi boarder in '03. It was like watching the horsemen of the apocalypse fly to the enemies ruination! For perspective, I was a tank driver. Missle systems are absolute horrors

[@bthsr7113]

Saw an M270 and got to talk to its crew at a big Scouting event. Not just scary range and yield, but scary accuracy.

[@CalicoEmpathy]

In the ilClan era, the venerable SRM Carrier was refitted to replace its short range missle tubes with t-shirt cannons. Now reclassed as the "Shirtless Regal Man" Carrier, the vehicle proved to be an invaluable tool for spreading the ilKhan's propaganda by firing t-shirts and other paraphernalia with images of shirtless Alaric Ward. Though largely non-lethal, its payload instilled a lasting presence of Alaric's magnificent physique in the hearts and minds of the Inner Sphere. The schism within the Rasalhague Dominion shows how insidious such tactics can be.

[@BigRed40TECH]

Glory to the Star League :P

[@quentil]

@@BigRed40TECH The Star League died in 2780. The other two don't really count. :D

[@nachoneitzscheese]

My introduction to SRM carriers was in HBS Battletech, when one ambushed me at point blank range pretty early in the game. I thought "how bad could it be? 4, maybe 5 SRM6 launchers?". And then it started firing. And firing. And kept on firing for what felt like an entire minute. 60 SRMs later, my previously pristine Centurion had been stripped of all armor on one side, and taken massive structural damage to all those locations, on top of the pilot being seriously injured by multiple head hits. Ever since then, I keep a healthy distance from any 60-ton vehicle signature hiding in the fog of war.

[@Executioner9000]

I've always called the SRM carrier the "anti-mech claymore" as that is functionally it's role

[@kereminde]

There's a story I like telling about missile carriers. There was a Campaign scenario with my brother and I, where some pirates deployed some 'Mechs and vehicles to try to destroy a mining operation. They managed to do it, but my brother wanted to play it out so he could eliminate as many pirate forces as possible. There were a pair of Thunderbolts trying to be big "I'm too armored to remove easily" nuisances and were getting slowly whittled down. One SRM Carrier blasted it down rapidly, causing it to fall from a damaged gyro - the other however kept coming. The SRM Carrier unloaded *ALL* sixty missiles into the Thunderbolt. An arm fell off. A leg had its armor sheared off to the "bone" of internal structure and myomer bundles. The shoulder-mounted LRM pod was rendered inoperable. A missile glanced off the cockpit, another damaged the fusion engine. But the Thunderbolt did not die. Its pilot briefly blacked out from taking too many shots to the head of his 'Mech, and was a sitting duck. Then the pilot woke up, stood up, and made the SRM Carrier go away before being broken apart by a Hatchetman and Javelin. Missile carriers can be fearsome, but they have to kill what they aim at - or they're going to be given someone's undivided attention.

[@AlphaAurora]

SRM Carrier Designing: Sir, how many SRMs would you like to put on your vehicle? SRM Carrier: Yes Seriously, 10x SRM-6 tubes smash any single target really fast. Had enough frustration when RNG failed me and I couldn't core out a carrier before, to suffer it's revenge in the next turn.

[@Dreadwolf3155]

rocket launcher carrier FTW

[@panzerschliffehohenzollern4863]

TANDEM SRM Carriers say hi.

[@sonoftheviper__4304]

This is why Mechs mount jump jets.

[@malusignatius]

*Insert meme of Gary Newman screaming "ALL OF THEM!"*

[@tenchraven]

@@Dreadwolf3155 RL carrier? 30 RL-10s is basically an anti-mech claymore-roomba. You are evil, sir, and I will borrow this!

[@dwdarkwing1419]

10:40 Tex said it best "Hit em with the box of bees"

[@The_Fr3d0x]

I fear no *mech*, but that thing... *SRM carrier noises* ...it scares me

[@Szoki86]

Call it a dumb theory, but between missle carriers, Savannah Masters, Harassers, Long Toms, Demolishers and countless others, I'm starting to think that using super expensive giant robots to do your fighting would actually be unreasonable.

[@jiggle_counter]

I would pilot a mech to the grocery store to fetch milk and bread if I could, despite being unreasonable I would even go as far as to pilot an urbanmech on the highway, to the next state over, during peak hour, despite being unreasonable

[@dustinnabil798]

Yeah, but the military need a reason to inflate their defense budget

[@ero9841]

Mechs in battletech can go anywhere and are cheaper to move around from planet to planet. But for defence of worlds vehicles are so common

[@BigRed40TECH]

Oh shit! Don't tell the Military industrial Complex! Think of the jobs! lol

[@Chris_Sizemore]

For defense, tanks are excellent. Especially the part where if you have any sort of manufacturing capability you can produce ICE engines and simple non-energy weapons. For offense on the other hand, mechs make more sense. When you have to pack everything on a jumpship and transport it to the battlefield, getting as much performance as you can for each ton matters. Ton for ton, Mechs just perform better. Well, actually ton for ton infantry are amazing but infantry aren't going to beat artillery or anything with long range capability.

[@donaldcampbell3043]

Love the SRM Carrier, 10 SRM6 launchers took down more than a few mechs in ambush with these babies... and the Shreck PPC Tank... fun times

[@Prich319]

The scariest missile carriers of all may well be the dark age/ilclan era versions with clan tech launchers and hardened armor. Thanks Catalyst, those things weren't already a mechwarrior's nightmares made manifest.

[@afitz34]

Getting ambushed by either type of carrier can be terrifying on the tabletop.

[@BoisegangGaming]

The HBS BT game gave me a fear of anything described as an "X carrier". You can kite around a Demolisher, or crush a medium tank underfoot. But an LRM carrier will see you and it will continue to pepper away at your armor regardless of what you do about it, and SRM carriers are kill on sight. Plus it also doesn’t hurt that they have some of the longest firing animations in the game without mods lmao.

[@StressmanFIN]

Don't forget Stability damage... nothing worse than a mech lying on the ground for a full turn, taking potshots from every enemy on the field...

[@shaneducharme3955]

I lost so many light and medium mechs to surprise hits from an SRM Carrier in HBS BT game.

[@duongquan4986]

Ikr, 10 SRM6 racks making it top of the "Kill on sight" list.

[@fluffly3606]

"Small laser carrier"

[@EricDaMAJ]

In the HBS game LRM vehicles can definitely give you “When is it MY turn?” feels.

[@heirofaniu]

It only gets worse with the Mission Control or BTA3062 mod too.

[@malusignatius]

SRM Carriers do that in TT. Rolling for 10 launchers that all use the random hit table is time-consuming.

[@EricDaMAJ]

@@malusignatius If you have that many you should calculate damage by averages.

[@paladinslash4721]

SRM Carriers are distraction carnifexes and that’s perfect.

[@DrendarMorevo]

Ok, you're killing me, in your opening you refer to them as instruments in mankind's arsenal, and I was thinking that was the perfect time to say "mankind's orchestra of destruction" and then you make musical references for the rest of the video. Killing me!

[@BoisegangGaming]

22:38 "Engineers are really smart in battletech" To be fair they had around 300 years of war where anyone who could count above 5 died.

[@knutboehnert3163]

A real good overview of one of the most underrated and most feared objects on a (tabletop) battlefield. Inexpensive, crewed by militia who should know better, and often shot first if visible.

[@bthsr7113]

The "Inexpensive" is key. Sure, not as disposable as Joe Bob in an Savanah Master, but the number of salvos needed to inflict losses of equivalent C-Bill cost as the carrier being reduced to indistinct scrap metal is pretty low. Sure, keeping the thing alive long enough to return for resupply and repair would be ideal, but losing a missile carrier isn't inherently unexpected or crippling the way losing an assault mech is. Heck, a commander might even use the carrier as bait or force the enemy to choose between different threats closing in.

[@RonOnTheWay]

The Battletech video game has pretty scary missile vehicles.

[@jackal8460]

I've always used the Toyota hilux with an srm 2 or lrm 5 as "tutorial" enemies for friends getting in to battletech. They're just so easy to understand and still hurt the wasps they're inside if they're not careful. Love these things.

[@DonaldWWitt]

Did you upgrade the Engine though? RIDE ETERNAL, SHINY AND CHROME!!!

[@mickbrown7793]

the situation of the law-suit as I understand it is that Quikscell sued those building copies of their specific designs: the 60-tube, 60 ton types. We see a lot of other missile carriers in MW5 - LRM-20 carriers, LRM-30 carriers, etc. Those are likely still a thing and nothing to do with the admittedly very common 60-60 types that Quikscell claims sole ownership of.

[@BigRed40TECH]

Oh I'm aware, I'm just saying that its not all that flavourful, and kinda goes against the original intention of something just being dubbed an "SRM" or "LRM" carrier.

[@baker90338]

One of the most terrifying types to me is the Thunderbolt carrier. It straps 5 Thunderbolt 5’s and 36 rounds of fire on the light SRM carrier. Basically, that’s like strapping 5 ac/5’s on a vehicle…also it goes 5/8.

[@joelaugustin6407]

I played a game of MWO a couple nights ago, on my team was a trio of an Arctic Cheetah with NARC and two Dire Wolves with max LRMs. It was wonderful and terrifying to behold. Glory to the missile, from the hand sling to ICBM.

[@jiriz0r]

The SRM and LRM Carriers are my favorite vehicles in BattleTech. They’re such an obvious concept it would be immersion breaking if they weren’t in the game. And I feel there is some odd beauty to a design so utterly dedicated to a single purpose that it disregards everything else. Getting as many launch tubes into position as possible is all that matters. Going faster would require a bigger engine so less room and weight for missiles, completely unacceptable. Better protection means more armor and thus less missiles which is, as stated before, unacceptable. Besides if the Carriers are getting shot at then the rest of the formation isn’t doing its job so they shouldn’t need heavy armor. Just enough to protect against small arms fire and shell fragments. Everything is secondary to its task, its raison d’etre, its destiny: to provide overwhelming fire superiority, to decide engagements in a few salvos and to just shoot as many damn missiles as possible in the shortest amount of time possible.

[@michaelkimberling7307]

You shall fight in the shade. - LRM carrier lance commander

[@andyeaton1736]

The only problem with fielding the SRM carries on the table is rolling all the dice for those missile hits. 10 to hit rolls, 10 # of missile hits rolls then the real fun begin, 0-60 hit location rolls!

[@Nikarus2370]

Can get clear boxes with multiple chambers, usually for sorting things, mine has 20 individual spaces in it (I got mine at jo-ann fabrics, it was in the section with all the beads for sorting those). Stick a pair of dice in each 1, number each 1, seal it up. Now you can shake the box and roll 20 2d6 at once and just use however many you need for that set of to-hit rolls or crit location rolls and etc.

[@blue95kun]

The big time classic for delivering missile bukkake onto your unsuspecting enemy. If they get caught by an SRM Carrier? It's on them.

[@markkrombacher8369]

... Missile Bukkake... thank you, i will use that line from now on as much as i can

[@Xydarc]

When fighting an LRM carrier: "We will fight in the shade"

[@Reverb154]

This is where fuel cell engines make for a basic, but effective starting point for upgrading these missile carriers!

[@SHDW-nf2ki]

LRM carriers with incendiary rounds are my favourite answer to a prepared position.

[@bthsr7113]

Nice to see someone who knows that it's not just SRM's that can cook.

[@scytheseven9173]

the Light SRM Carrier makes me think of that one variant of the Roc, and makes me imagine someone sticking the blown-off SRM-equipped arm of one stuck on the back of a truck

[@Chris_Sizemore]

Even in the lowest point of the 3rd Succession War when production of Mechs was limited to a few aging factories that used black box technology that wasn't understood, every planet could produce some war materials. Any planet could produce missiles, MG ammo, and auto cannon ammo. Any planet could produce Internal Combustion Engines. Any planet could produce standard armor. Any planet could produce the parts needed for a vehicle. Any planet could produce LRM, SRM launchers and machine guns. Most planets could produce introtech autocannons. This is the reason ICE tanks were so common for defense. It is also the reason why Mechs got the reputation for stomping over tanks. ICE based tanks are very weight inefficient, so naturally they lose to mechs in the same weight bracket. The missile carriers are excellent examples of that. While the missile carriers have very impressive firepower, any heavy or even medium mech can destroy them in one volley of fire or in melee. While they are glass cannons, the missile carriers are a go to for tank commanders. Honestly the cost to performance ratio is very good for any missile carrier. Other better armored tanks might last longer, but you're never sure if you'll get your BV's worth of performance out of them. LRM carriers are sure fire performers. SRM carriers are a bit more of a gamble, but they can pay off in just a single round of fire. You can't say that about most other tanks. And if you never send out a single SRM carrier. You always send them out in groups so when one goes down the rest can get revenge.

[@bthsr7113]

Or if you only have one SRM carrier, it's because you've got other urban specialists to cause problems and act as bait.

[@pauln6917]

Because your Archer - 2C can hit the enemy Lance, a platoon of these guys can hit the whole map that enemy Lance is occupying. That is the love, right there.

[@omegavulture8379]

You turn a corner in a cityfight and come face-to-face to an SRM carrier…Yup, that’s a game over.

[@andrewweltlich9065]

I've been playing the Battletech Advanced 3062 mod on PC a lot lately, and the Heavy LRM Carrier is such a beast. I love it.

[@quentil]

The SRM and LRM carriers are something that every single militia unit should have. They are deadly and disposable.

[@BigRed40TECH]

Dependable, disposable, and deadly. The 3 D's. lol

[@volcanicusrex7884]

Ah, missile carriers… can’t tell you how many missions of the BattleTech PC game I had to restart because of them. Love to have them, hate to face them

[@StressmanFIN]

SRM Carrier on the field. "Why do I hear Jaws theme... and why is it getting louder...?"

[@ZontarDow]

There's something charming about Battletech's setting having war be the 1980s concept of modern warfare but with mechs added, and is part of the reason why I dislike modern drones being retconned into the setting when that should at best be losttech being reintroduced.

[@dashiellgillingham4579]

Radio-guidance was redeveloped by the Draconis Combine around the 3050s for their Killer Whale anti-warship ballistic missiles, if I’m not mistaken. From there it spread outward. I’m unaware of any pre-Jihad Battletech drones, excepting those used by the Terran Hegemony’s SDS.

[@pa_gaming_dad2810]

Great topic to listen to while painting up my 1st Sword of Light Fire Lance!

[@BigRed40TECH]

Nice!

[@JPG.01]

The SRM carrier. I didn't know you could utilize psychological warfare in a tabletop game. That small, inexpensive unit... taught me otherwise. I sometimes dream about rolling srms for 15 minutes straight. Waking up with a grin.

[@Annihilator27]

Missiles boats are a feared species.

[@screenmonkey]

The first time i tripped apon a SRM Carrier in HBS i learned a very valuable lesson, these things are priority targets.

[@ampgp03d]

These vehicles are what happens when the kid who straps those Saturn missile fireworks to their rc car. The bane of neighborhoods and mechs alike.

[@bthsr7113]

I think that might be more the Harasser.

[@JH-ph4qb]

One can only thank the Clans culture that the clan missile carriers are not a thing. Because they would be a truly horrifying beasts, especially the ATM one.

[@BigRed40TECH]

They exist, but I didn't cover them. :)

[@bthsr7113]

I know there's a Clan SRM Carrier, and some carriers may have been refitted with ATMs, but as far as I know, there aren't any missile carriers designed from the ground up to be ATM boats.... but BT let's you make your own vehicles.

[@raymondcroteau]

"Our missiles shall blot out the sun." "Then we shall fight in the light of Stackpoling."

[@Tellos]

Excellent video glad to see more content as always. As to Carriers, I think Missile carriers can be a great addition to any formation.

[@tenchraven]

SRM carriers are basically an anti-mech shotgun. With the right load and at the right range, it will tear parts off and throw them on the ground. Streak carriers are worse. But you really need to get most of them to connect, because of that armour. In urban warfare, they are nightmare. And LRM carriers make NARC a useful tool. A whole lance of them, homing on the beacon stuck on you... And good call on these being more a concept than universal- heavy APCs make good, cheap light missile carrier bases. For the SLDF, using the Padilla as an LRM and SRM carrier makes sense. And so on.

[@hammer1349]

Id be interested to see if there are any Battletech stories that focus on the tankers etc rather than the mech. Just like a platoon/lance of Pattons maybe supported by a few carriers with LRMs or something having to hold off an enemy assault with mechs etc. I do like the more nebulous nature of the generic missile carriers. Its basically just a moving weapons battery, what those missile are mounted on doesnt really matter, just that it can get those missiles to where it needs them

[@BigRed40TECH]

I think there are, but I can't think of any to hand.

[@WolfHreda]

Battletech: Sniper, available on Kindle, contains a couple short stories from BattleCorps. While I'm not sure about the second story "Panzer," the first one - that being the "Sniper" of the title - is about a Schrek PPC Carrier gunner.

[@hammer1349]

@WolfHreda a quite search reveals that sniper is the prequel story to panzer so likely have the same running characters. Also just looked up the titular Sniper, I like him already and I've only one quip about him lol

[@michaelsudsysutherland5353]

As a dedicated tread head... I love a good platoon of LRM carriers backing my platoon of Patton and/or politically incorrect Rommel tank platoons. Many a Mechwarrior has been brought low underestimating these vehicles, even if the LRM carriers often missed time and time again. All it took was one good roll... and opinions were changed!

[@Evinthal84]

I got back into BattleTech when MecWarrior: Dark Age came out and played the hell out of it every Sunday, and it lead me down the road of loving vehicles and combined arms armies, which lead me to absolutely LOVING vehicles in "Classic" BattleTech. I'd love to see you do a video on the Ajax Assault Tank, and the Manteuffel Attack Tank, as I've made more than a couple of people cringe and complain when I drop a lance consisting of a Manteuffel Prime, Ajax Assault Tank B, and 2x Ajax Assault Tank A onto the field to shred their fancy clan mechs :D C3 and RAC5 go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[@chartographer217]

These things are the sole reason why I never took convoy ambush type of missions in Battletech 2018. One lock on from an enemy scout = one of my mechs down. Often - with it's pilot dead.

[@MervDeGriff]

10/10 video. I really want the Merc's kickstarter now so I can have my boxes of LRM/SRM carriers. SRM carriers are much more limited in my experience. They are ok with hidden unit rules and dense terrain/maps for ambushes. Outside of Ambush? The chaplain will be busy consoling widows. LRM carriers are another story. The range lets them have stand off and fire indirectly. If you mix in a supporting unit with a TAG or NARC, well someone is getting a lesson on dezgra spheroid tactics via concentrated volleys. Supporting a mech unit or other forces with spotting infantry and LRM carriers is a fun way to make folks remember combined arms lives on.

[@jamesoakes192]

A great video I really enjoy the videos on the things around the mechs really helps flesh out the setting

[@Kepora1]

Nothing else quiet engages the pucker factor like coming over a hill with a light mesh in MW5 and finding an SRM carrier

[@blaster.911]

dame You have a good narrating voice that is deep and smooth

[@irondarknessdarkness8900]

Hurray for the Carriers

[@EnderPryde]

27:24 We actually *can* infer a few things about the design from that Alpha Strike card. Because it has the ability ARTAIS-2, it would have two Arrow IV launchers on board (Compare the A.S. cards for the Schiltron Prime vs. the Vali Artillery Vehicle). We also know it has the same movement profile *as* an SRM Carrier (6"t) rather than a Heavy LRM Carrier (4"t) or Manticore (8"t), and that it lacks a turret (compare with a Po II Arrow IV, the ARTAIS-1 is part of the turret) Everything else is... a bit of a big ole question mark. It has *about* 3-ish tons of armor - the 2 armor pips could be anywhere from 3 to 4.5 tons, and the ammo would fluctuate based on that - we can *assume* 3 tons (which would translate to 4 tons of ammo) because that's what the other 60 ton carriers have, but it's not a guarantee.

[@geoffreydunne7422]

O this should be fun .missed livestream for a while so hey video launch always fun

[@mcbhomis]

You did address the Arrow IV carrier, excellent!

[@TheRay21420]

Hello darkness, my old friend....

[@williamjanak2013]

I have to wonder just how people played table top with SRM Carries. Since, if I remember right, you would have to roll for EACH Missile. Well its a great video. As for what I think of Carriers...Make Steel Rain on your Enemy's Parade! HAhahahahaA!

[@lexington476]

With this video, I'm starting to think that Big Red has a one-shot SRM-4 and the back of his Toyota pickup truck 🙂. Because when you're Big Red himself, you only need one shot 😎.

[@1337w0n]

A few designs I made a couple years ago: 80 tons, 2 Cruise MP, ICE, 4 tonnes standard armor, CASE, 8 tonnes of ammo, Turret: 20xLRM5s. (This is my optimization of the Heavy LRM Carrier.) 100 tons, 5 Cruise MP (Hover), ICE, 24 tonnes standard armor, Case, 4 tonnes of ammo, Turret: 10x MML 3 "Mech Breaker" Preferred Ammo composition 1xLRM, 2xSRM, 1xSRM (Inferno) 90 tons, 2 Cruise MP, ICE, 4.5 tonnes standard armor, CASE, 8 tonnes of ammo, Turret: 3x Tunderbolt 20. "Storm Bringer" 74 tons, 3 Cruise MP, ICE, 5 tonnes standard armor, CASE, 4 tonnes of ammo, Turret: 2x ArrowIV.

[@135forte]

Park the SRMs by the LRMs and you don't have to your about speed, your prey comes to you.

[@mikegould6590]

I've used SRM Carriers all of ONCE in tabletop, and was warned against doing so again. I guess 60 missiles into a Battlemaster was too many. The Arrow IV looked familiar. The last time I saw that in plastic was Mechwarrior Clix, and it was part of every Wolf force I fielded.

[@spacewolfblackmane19]

These in every form are always a blast to have In your games, though they are much better at defending, or in an city environment, because terrain is a massive problem for them. Only going 2/3 hills and the like are a major obstacle. More than a few times I've had these things get out flanked, and left behind because of that.

[@bthsr7113]

Ever since Sigma 6, massed missile fire has remained a favorite of mine. Even if these aren't half as efficient and smart. Open launch tubes and fire at will.

[@hatework4282]

Padilla or Chaparral: best i can think of for an Arrow IV carrier. Good video. Always happy to see armor getting some love.

[@joker4-172]

Amazing work sir!

[@FrostyThundertrod]

Orion ONK-1 "that's a good mech I want that salvage." SRM Carrier "Oh shit!"

[@MrDecelles]

1 lrm carrier and 1 srm carrier in tandem is a very dangerous duo in the tabletop.

[@BigRed40TECH]

Absolutely.

[@AnchorJG]

In the HBS game, I make it a point to bring the most gaudy missile boat I can put together and let me tell you, once you have a Stalker with 4 LRM15s or a Bull Shark with 4-20s blazing up the OpFor, it's entirely a matter of do you run out of enemies or missiles first? Things like the Archer and Catapult almost seem quaint in comparison, but are none-the-less dread inducing when it's the enemy's turn and from off screen the missiles just don't stop coming!

[@heboric6136]

Sweet video, well done Red

[@panzerschliffehohenzollern4863]

2 LRM Carriers and 2 Catapult (all with Artemis IV) is unironically my main lance in Roguetech.

[@braddavis3029]

Ah, I found it: The Battletech Tactical Handbook, 1994. For those asking about 'why not all missile carrier', the Handbook goes into that. The Operational Game was an extended campaign where each battle led into another. After each battle, you entered a logistic phase where you had to pay to upkeep all your units, repair battle damage, and reload ammunition. Mechs had a cheaper logistic cost of .10 of their CV while vehicles had between .25 and .30 to represent basic maintenance, food, and medical care. Fail to pay the maintenance and you suffered damage. You also had to pay to reload your ammunition stores. Sure, a bunch of SRM carriers looks good on a single tabletop battle, but what happens when you need to reload all those missiles tubes? With the lack of a 'hyper sleep' in Battletech and the invasion force having to lug every can of water, MRE, missile, and gallon of fuel with them through space, Mechs make sense for an invasion force. One pilot is cheaper than a vehicle crew which is cheaper than an infantry squad. Couple that with Mech lasers and PPCs not requiring ammunition, and Mechs become the default weapon of war in a post-Aeries Convention universe that bans nuclear weapons.

[@kaisiegfried425]

Ah i hoped you would include the Dark Age JES I Tactical Missile Carrier and JES II Strategic Missile Carrier, they gave the Falcons on there way in the Republic a good Trashing. Loved the vid.

[@Somewhat-Evil]

In a mercenary campaign they are to be dreaded. Missile carriers can wreak your mechs while leaving very little to salvage after you've finished them off. If used in support of heavy tanks like the demolisher or ontos LRM carriers will trap you between a rock and a hard place.

[@connormclernon26]

“OUR LRMs WILL BLOT OUT THE SUN!”

[@h0shidont35]

A cloud of LRM clouds has probably gotta be one of the most horrifiyng things you can witness on the field of the Inner Sphere, be you 'mech, vehicle, infantry, or anything, really.

[@AnimeSquirrel]

Getting shot with 80 SRMs from one of these things in Battletech is rage enducing.

[@AGS363]

I would give the LRM carriers the edge. Staying outside the enemy range is just really useful for not getting hit.

[@ILikeDoom]

I was running a Crab in MW5 once. Simple mission. Destroy some warehouses. I had just finished killing a locust, and turned to face forward. Only to get a face full of SRMs from one of these little bastards. He cored me out from almost full health. I wasn't exactly taking massive damage fighting locusts and scorpions. And he just one shots me like its nothing, then went home to his wife and kids. They're not hard to kill, but they can also very easily kill you. Very quickly.

[@TheStrayHALOMAN]

I play BTA 3062 and love having 2 of these paired it 2 hovercrafts which both had dual arrow 4 with 2 medium lasers and 4 tons of arrow 4 ammo with 2 tons being inferno. I forgot the name of the hovercraft though.

[@ryanwing8665]

ICE in battletech are insanely heavy! Just for example, the engine in most personal vehicles today weight a couple hundred lbs, and a large tractor/trailer (or 18 Wheeler) engine weighs about 800 lbs. Hell a MBT like the M1A3 Abrams engine is 2500 lbs. To set that an LRM carriers engine weighs 20+ tons of mind bending for me.

[@RandomEncounterFilms]

I never heard about the Quiksell retcon. My head cannon, is that while they did and might've even won the cases. It's mostly due to a broad patent and improper judiciary oversight. They weren't copied per say, but it's close enough and proving a negative is often very hard, that Quiksell won their cases.

[@elchjol2777]

Our missiles will blot out the sun! TAG/NARC + An ridiculous amount of LRM carriers, Catapults, Archers and Longbows. Add artillery guns if you want more long range boom.

[@william_brobrine8975]

FIRE FOR EFFECT. as someone who only play mechworrior 5, mechassault 1 & 2, and a few hours of MWO I see their value and i would not dare leaving them alone to have them unleash their payload and my heart sometimes skips a beat when i see LRM60 or SRM 40 or whatever appear on my hud and I visually can't see it even if they are quick to deal with.

[@Dokdiamant]

An Idea for a Video or more than one: Could you make a Video about the most Rare Mashines of all Timelines? Not Hero Mashines, but Builds that were "Lost in Time" or something like that and make a Top 10 of them or something like that. You could make one for Mechs, one for Tanks, Carriers, Dropships, Space / Air fighters, Jumpships... what ever you like and tell us something about them. I think that could be interesting too. ^^

[@FunkyBaconArts]

Getting ambushed by an AC/20 carrying vehicle may result in damage. Getting ambushed by an SRM carrier WILL result in damage.

[@Versudan]

Ah, the most simple and elegant war crime committers. LRM/Arrow IV carriers armed with Davy Crocketts. Muh favourite. :3

[@sebastiang.5032]

Love all the Carriers.