All Types of BIG HAY MOWERS

[@briandraves937]

I got a krone big m II love it. Had a pull behind mower didnt like sore neck at end of day. So I bought a selfprolled case mower with 18ft cut. I like it but had to tedd it out to chop it at right moisture. So bought the big m saves me a trip across the feild and runs fuel efficient.

[@lowtech5530]

I noticed the operator of the Allis wearing hearing protection which is a great idea. An umbrella would've been nice too.

[@jackleigh4613]

Nice equipment.

[@bigtractorpower]

😁👍👍

[@bradyjones4821]

In Idaho where I’m at the 16ft self propelled swathers run 12-18mph

[@Diy_Ua]

🤚🤚👍👍👍😊🚜

[@samlincoln5548]

We had a 50’ New Holland Haybine on our dairy when I was a kid. You’d go 50’, stop, let it unplug, go another 50’, stop, you get the drift.

[@NexLevelBacon]

So did we lol

[@davidepool5884]

I would have loved to have a Krone mower back when I was cutting so much hay. That was a long time ago though. 40 to 45 years ago to be exact. Now that’s the way to cut hay!

[@bigtractorpower]

What did you mow with?

[@scruffy6151]

I agree 100%

[@briandraves937]

Mow alfalfa and a side or two of custom work

[@briandraves937]

I had a case wd2303 I believe. And before the a new Holland pull behind 12 ft dont know number anymore. We just got to point where acres and time to stay ahead of chopper so that's why I went with the krone

[@Dimaz42]

in a not so distant future, that mower probably would be automated, since there's driverless tractors already, and the task is simple enough..

[@gman007ize]

330 Pto hp on that 8r 😂 such overkill

[@valuedhumanoid6574]

IMHO the triple mower was the best bang for the buck. Not only fast, but when your finished with hay, unhook it and use the tractor for something else. That type of synergy is how you make a nice profit. A dedicated machine is only feasible if you are cutting year round and is your sole source of income. Many dairy farmers will contract the cutting out to people who own those Krone type machines.

[@interman7715]

The Allis and the Haybine looked so neat imo .

[@bigtractorpower]

It’s a classic combo.

[@nigelclats6970]

Thanks for the great vids. I started my mowing career as a contractor at 10 yrs old on my fathers old fordson major. My 11yr old brother also used to drive a super major and disc mower. That was in Wales UK,back in 1973,I have used every type of mower from an old horse drawn Albion land wheel driven sickle bar,to the latest tractors and triple mowers. I am still contract cutting and currently run a new Fastrac 4220 and Kuhn 9.5 metre triples. I will try a Krone Big M at some point i reckon. Even after 50 yrs I stil love scything through the grass.

[@bigtractorpower]

Wow. Great history. Thank you for sharing.

[@markreetz1001]

Those are some mowin' machines. 50 acres an hour is just incredible! Thanks for the vid.

[@chriscollinsworth4727]

Hey Mike, why didn't you show the big Vermeer 18 ft pull type disc mowers or the 16 footer ???? Have a 18 ft Vermeer mower and a caseih 8920 and it would cut rings around those 4 green tractor's.

[@bigtractorpower]

I would very much like to film a Vermeer. They are impressive. I have not had the opportunity to film one yet. As far as the 946 MoCo’s there are two factors here at play. This is a new seeding of alfalfa and the field was a bit tacky but the crop was ready and more rain on the way so it was go time to get everything mowed and chopped. They were running 6 mph to reduce wear and tear on the new seeding. Typically they would run 8 mph. The fields in this area roll and they have creases in the land that make dips and bumps. You can not fly across these fields with any type of mower.

[@farmhandmike]

Big Tractor Powers name is Jason. Mike is Farmhand Mike. Two totally different channels.

[@Leimbrock2000]

The Krone Big M can run much faster

[@michaelwhalen4072]

Should do a video on difference in roll and flail conditioners and what material your cutting is best for each. I don't think I've ever seen a John Deere 4990-4995 windrower on here yet either.

[@rebeldude24]

I was surprised to see that New Holland windrower run for more than a minute without some type of break down!

[@madalaskann]

thats a lovely 185 brings back memory of running one as a kid

[@bigtractorpower]

👍👍

[@jeremymurphy7320]

Not sure what small I like better, some freshly turned Iowa black dirt or fresh cut alfalfa. Might be a tie.

[@bigtractorpower]

That’s a close one for sure.

[@4gauge10]

I heard that the Krone 500-M isn't available here in the United States,only in Europe.

[@elamnissley4099]

Nice video. Thanks. I found a 12' 1600A center swing sickle mower conditioner at auction for 250.00 and fixed it up nicely. It works great but it really wearing out. We really need a discbine now !

[@dieselking6812]

I’m used to seeing a 4640 2wd pulling the MoCo since I watch a channel that has that

[@nellsonstout7001]

My great uncle still uses a mounted new holland Disc mower. It’s about 7.5 feet. It seems like a good match to the Ford 6710.

[@5er593]

Hope you can get to film SIP silvercut disc 1500 its 15 m disc mower (50ft).

[@donstravelsandrants.]

So good to watch. Love all the information you give.

[@hughwhaley3179]

We had a New Holland hay bine back in the day thanks for sharing 🚜👍👍

[@nicklehman3984]

I mow the hay in my backyard with a 4.5 horse Briggs N Stratton

[@motorcop555]

This brings back a lot of great memories of being a custom cutter! My all out favorite combo in this video was that Allis and NH haybine!

[@derekkonkel8753]

Man I could lap those guys multiple time running those Moco’s with a New Holland 313 on a Case IH 7210

[@michaelmurray7199]

Derek Konkel Better slow and steady than quick and sloppy. Remember how the Tortoise beat the Hare?

[@jleamsnki92]

Farmer in Central wisconsin. We run a new holland 313 discbine 13 ft on New Holland T7070. My average is 15mph. Fastest I've ever gone is 23mph.

[@bigtractorpower]

Very nice mowing team. The 313 is an awesome mower to see at work.

[@scruffy6151]

I have mowed with sickle, self porpeled and tractor pulled hay bined never a hydro swing or triple. 👍👍

[@bigtractorpower]

I would like to find a sickle mower to film.

[@inlikeflynn673]

They use to mow our golf course with a tow behind sickle a long time ago! I remember it was hard on my bare feet! Lol

[@tonyda6405]

the grass flowing out of the mowers is sooooo satisfying

[@riamriam6758]

Did you have any footage of mowers cutting canola? Thanks for the upload👍🏼

[@bigtractorpower]

I do not but I would like too.

[@nazzarenoceretti8025]

Bellissimo video 🙋‍♂️ 😊 💚 🌈 👍👏

[@patu5798]

Watching 4x 240hp tractors pulling single tow behind mowers is the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen

[@bigtractorpower]

It really is not. That was filmed in an area with few dairy farms. There is no market for big mowers. By running 946 MoCos they can re sell them to smaller cattle farms which are big in the area. This farm mild 3,500 cows and farms several thousand acres of grain.

[@rocksandoil2241]

Love that Allis-Chalmers tractor...

[@mulletman1743]

Great vid, have you ever seen one of those Vermeer folding mowers out in the field?

[@bigtractorpower]

I have the sales brochure on the Vermeer. I would really like to film one.

[@RedDeadSpearhead]

Our farm runs a Case 162 DC behind our Magnum 180, it's certainly not the most sophisticated set up, but gets the job done, and is a relatively easy piece to maintain, provided it doesn't hit a big groundhog hole.

[@prjndigo]

Haybines will almost never cut a stalk more than once, they're far more effective in denser crop for less horsepower, can handle MUCH taller crop in much less smooth terrain, can be adjusted to cut VERY high, and you can make looser bales from their output and you can cut ripe grain crop with them without much threshing loss. One of the advantages the video specific haybine has is it is 100% hydraulic. Mike failed to mention that Allis-Chalmers 185 is an 86-90hp tractor, climbing hills and mowin more than half as fast as the 200hp JD's with mocos while producing a better product that lays more fluffy on the ground.

[@Bruiser38]

I’m American, from the Midwest, the heartland. Haven’t lived in the states for just over 14 years. Don’t really like the division that’s happened in the last few years but I love my country, it’s always been great to me. When I’m missing, really missing my home, I look for (google) things like MLB, National Parks, road trips and the big green tractor. Used to work on the racetrack ( thoroughbreds) in my twenties and can remember getting good hay, great hay, alfalfa, “wow” alfalfa. Would love to shake out a flake one more time. Saw local farmers here cutting some grass here I think with a 6 series and a disc mower. Of all the farming, hay is it for me, weird. I always look forward to big tractor power, what ever the colour.

[@flemmingskorstengaard3872]

Hello BTP great video. I wanted to show you a video of a mover from Denmark, cutting 40 feet in one pas. But I was not able to upload it. But look at KZbin under "Jf stoll gtx 12005.

[@bendocherty9429]

Nice video Mike. We had Krone big M on demo and it just wasn't practical. Nice Machines though.

[@rburli]

I smiled at the comment of the sickle bar and second pass with the crimped, my uncle did that up until about 1970 with his Oliver 88 and, or Super 88. Great videos as always

[@AntonyMB]

Another advantage of swathers/windrowers is that all the action is in front of you. No need to look backwards, better for neck and shoulders.

[@diersirrigation]

Jason, you forgot to mention the specs on the beautiful 185 Allis Chalmers pulling the New Holland haybine.

[@thehalligan0373]

Could have included the class cougar which is bigger than than any big m

[@bigtractorpower]

Unfortunately the Claas Cougar has been out of production since 2012 and is no longer a modern big mower which was the theme of this video. If you watch the video to the end screen it will show you a video I made last year that does feature the big 1200 Cougar @ kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHfYiaiFlNWobM0

[@billbooth4147]

Nice video Jason I started with a 255 Massey Ferguson tractor and 474 new Holland was too little to reach the tractor pedals

[@fedup3582]

Why does a disc mower require so much horsepower to operate?

[@bigtractorpower]

To offer high speeds mowing at over 30ft. It takes allot of power to process bulk crop material.

[@VonArens]

Too bad the Claas Cougar is so rare (at least it seems to be), still think thats the most unique and biggest mower I've ever seen. :)

[@bigtractorpower]

I have a Class Cougar featured here on the channel at kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHfYiaiFlNWobM0 The Cougar is on the rare side because the last one was built in 2012. It is an impressive machine but the triple mounted tractor mower knocked it out of the market place.

[@chandler_hay_cattle]

would be nice to have that Krone self propelled.. vs our 18' vermeer cutter

[@ourv9603]

A SICKLE mower? Do you mean a SICKLE BAR mower? !

[@bigtractorpower]

I was describing the sickle cutting action of a haybine. The major of mowers sold today are disc mowers.

[@valentusslimroast6716]

who in the world can afford any of them? !

[@interman7715]

Valentus SlimROAST Just wack it on the over draft lol.

[@nellsonstout7001]

Valentus SlimROAST not everyone is broke bub🤷🏻‍♂️

[@jamesmorris9764]

We haven't started cutting hay in pembroke yet, but probably going to start this week

[@theogootjes3380]

I work for a costom operator in Ontario Canada, we run triple mowers with a 724 Fendt, depending on crop (how much ore if it's standing up straight ore not) we run 8 to 12 MPH, you're right we get alot done in a hurry 100 acres in a little over 3 hours

[@bigtractorpower]

👍👍👍👍

[@rugeryeti460]

Am I missing something or was that machine in the first clip cutting too high?

[@bmbpdk]

Thank you Sir for this very interesting video!

[@bigtractorpower]

I am glad you enjoyed it.

[@carterspeegle8359]

I mow with a John Deere 6155M and I cut with a 20 foot mower

[@ghislaingregoire8901]

where the cougars claass? and where the taarup kverneland ?

[@carlfalt174]

Can you still buy new 499 Haybines in the states?

[@daveknepp7718]

Great video. Thanks for sharing it with us.

[@Jorrie86]

Love the video thanks BTP 👍 Is the Claas Cougar still being manufactured ? If memory serves me right the biggest one can cut 46' in one pass

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching. The last Cougar was built in 2012. I featured a Cougar in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipvceausmZuXars They are an impressive mower.

[@gavinhenderson3861]

Great video. Are you going to have a bailing video soon

[@apnabhakkar1]

best content my dear

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@drewk5929]

Awesome as usual 👍🏻

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@martingardener90]

Really enjoyed this - would love that Allis 185 to go with my B, WC & D272. Haybines never caught on here in the UK but the Estate my father worked on were quite forward thinking and they did try a New Holland self propelled - it may have been a 1469. I can find no information here in the UK just a You Tube vid of one for sale in the US. I know this one had a Ford industrial 4 cyl Diesel engine. It was soon replaced by smaller but faster disc mowers. The crop was lifted by one of the first John Deere 4020's to come into the UK.

[@bigtractorpower]

That is very interesting to know Speed Rowers were in the UK. The 1469 did use a Ford engine. I hope to find a 1469 and 1411 to film. I have lead on a 1469. What was the mowing option in the UK before disc mowers?

[@martingardener90]

@@bigtractorpower Really the only thing before that was a knife mower ( or cutting bar ), probably no more than 5' behind a Fordson major. I remember from the registration no of the 4020 it was new in 1965. Have you ever heard of a Busatis mower? it used two reciprocating knives.

[@starvection1951]

That’s the same one from farming sim 19

[@AJ-hk6ex]

love the holland speedrower 260

[@oz2267]

Hi from a BTP fan in Israel 🇮🇱

[@brennus8225]

Had some hundred hours in front of a disc mower back in the 90's. Fun to see again.

[@bigtractorpower]

😁👍

[@farmshoffman8475]

Great awesome video, love watching hay cutting action makes me think about hay season

[@bigtractorpower]

May is Hay month 😁

[@lowermichigan4437]

I like this type of comparison of equipment. Enjoy the channel

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@SlyFoxl]

130k $ for a butterfly mower setup (triple mowers) ?!

[@bigtractorpower]

Yes

[@mdymond118]

forgot about the claas cougar

[@bigtractorpower]

I did not forget the Cougar. Unfortunately the Claas Cougar was retired from production in 2012. I wanted to show modern mowing options in the video. I have a Cougar featured in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHfYiaiFlNWobM0

[@mrourcanada8964]

Personally I like those photos fathers to do a zero turn because things are just so cool

[@bigtractorpower]

👍👍

[@jankotze1959]

Great content, thanks for the video BTP

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you Jan.

[@bradolsen9981]

Excellent video thanks

[@codyludwig2811]

Cool video Mike, If you want to see a really big hay mower on KZbin go to Phiber triple cut mower that one can cut up to 54 feet in one pass but takes a big tractor and its bigger than a regular triple cut mo check out that mower on youtube youll be impressed

[@bigtractorpower]

I have seen that mower on KZbin. It is impressive.

[@farmhandmike]

Big Tractor Powers name is Jason. Mike is Farmhand Mike. two totally different channels.

[@thoughtfox2409]

Being from germany i find it quite interesting how much horsepower is being used to cut 13ft/4m of hay. Over here the tripple mower setup, or at least a dual mower setup (basicly the triple mower, but the rear mower only has one mower, mostly to the right) are standart, and often used with tractors at around 250HP for the triples and between 100 and 150HP (depending on the with of the rear mower, front mowers are mostly 3m/3ft). I have never seen something like MoCos, Swathers (although i know that pottinger has some belts that you can attch to one of their rear mowers (the tripple ones)) or windrowers. What are the advantages of those?

[@garettcalhoun3776]

Most tractors over here in the U.S.A. do not have front mounted 3-point hitches or a PTO to power a triple mower setup. The Moco pull-type mower/conditioner is the next best affordable option people have around here. Self-propelled swathers are not uncommon either, however they are quite pricey when compared to a pull-type Moco mower that you could put on an already owned tractor.

[@patu5798]

My thoughts exactly. Americans stuck in their ways

[@patu5798]

@@garettcalhoun3776just fit front linkage and pto? It costs 10k

[@connork4440]

Nice video keep up the good work and can you get a video of a 4430?

[@bigtractorpower]

I hope so. I have not filmed a 4430 yet. It is a high on my list to film.

[@bradystreich3054]

Hi

[@bigtractorpower]

Hello.

[@allenmoore4186]

Great video BTP!

[@jonathanschaufler4032]

Ever heard of the metric system?

[@bigtractorpower]

I studied it in the third grade and that is the only time it is talked about in the United States. It is not used here and because the video filmed in the United States i use feet and inches. If I filmed in Canada or Europe I would use the metric system.

[@jonathanschaufler4032]

@@bigtractorpower okay, I just said so because it makes way more sense

[@brianmaiden774]

What happened to Heston

[@wolfgangoberkofler2785]

Great video!!! We probably start mowing in 3 weeks here in south tyrol, the northest part of italy. Greetings Wolfie

[@outofthefarm3399]

Same here in Saxony/ East Germany.... But at first we still need a lot of rain tho

[@bigtractorpower]

Very cool. What do you mow with? Alfalfa just started being mowed here in Kentucky at the end of April.

[@bigtractorpower]

I hope Saxony receives the need rain.

[@wolfgangoberkofler2785]

C.Ih.S bei uns hats jetzt zum glück mal geregnet. War auch dringend notwendig... Best wishes. Stay save!

[@outofthefarm3399]

bigtractorpower We've mowed with a Claas Corto 8100T (large-scale mower) until 2 years ago. But we replaced it with a front and butterfly mower. And thank you, we got some rain throughout the last week. A few farmers have started mowing rape here

[@jimc4731]

I especially liked this video! JIM

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@mackwoodcock7484]

OLF is going to comment about the no rower

[@jwhitley101whitleyfarms9]

Might do it but they are cutting thousands of acres for tons of hay producers everywhere

[@jackleigh4613]

I’ll stay with my 6 disc kune

[@bigtractorpower]

I would like to film some of the 9ft and under mowers.

[@wademitch]

BRUH

[@riamriam6758]

5:08 how far back do you need to sit? 😂

[@scottymoore4341]

The class cougar is another great machine

[@bigtractorpower]

The Cougar was last produced in 2012. It is impressive. You can see a video I have with the Cougar 1200 at kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHfYiaiFlNWobM0

[@scottymoore4341]

Didn’t realise it was that long ago since it was made I don’t farm just enjoy your videos

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching. The Cougar is an awesome machine. I will have a full history video on it this spring. It was displaced from the market by tractor mounted triple mowers.

[@scottymoore4341]

Keep the videos coming 👍

[@aaronosheaarchery]

I'm so glad I found this channel. I love it!

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching. I put out a new video almost every day.

[@aaronosheaarchery]

@@bigtractorpower the explanatory videos are superb too. As a non farmer I love to be able to build my knowledge.

[@jimholbay5148]

Awesome 👍

[@clayhempel9828]

Good work

[@andrewschulz5604]

How about the claas cuagar?

[@bigtractorpower]

It was last produced in 2012. It was knocked out of the market place by triple mowers. I have a Cougar filmed and will have a history video out on it this month.

[@SimonKL11]

The MoCo - fleet is impressive👍

[@patu5798]

Waste of fuel and labour

[@jokeboy_rblxrblx2006]

I love your vids try make a video of kansas

[@bigtractorpower]

I hope to get to Kansas. Great farming state.

[@jokeboy_rblxrblx2006]

bigtractorpower And we have to wait until kansas get reopen so people can come to Kansas and wait for our government say its clear for us in kansas

[@wilsonandrade6246]

✌️✌️✌️✌️

[@stiegerstx500]

I know for a fact a 946/56 moco can cut at 22 mph nice rigs tho

[@bigtractorpower]

Where are you mowing?

[@stiegerstx500]

We haven't started yet this year but in Augusta Wisconsin we run Claas triple mowers now but I've knocked down a lot of acres with a 956 John deere

[@bigtractorpower]

If a 946 can do 22 where your at what does the triple mower do? I got my numbers from the video from the farmers operating the machines. The 499 is in WI, 946 in KY, 260 in IA, NOVA in NY, Big M in WI.

[@stiegerstx500]

8 to 12 with the triple mowers they take a lot more power than the pull type still covers more ground tho

[@dawsonsides9019]

👍

[@farmerjoe8169]

Ran a 499 for years. Good old mower..

[@bigtractorpower]

😁👍👍. What did you pull it with?

[@farmerjoe8169]

@@bigtractorpower 4430, then a 4250, and a 6400 jd

[@JussiValkila]

We have 8ft wide disc mower.

[@bigtractorpower]

👍👍. What brand do you use.

[@JussiValkila]

@@bigtractorpower Lely