Are RV tires better? Still Crap? Find out!

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@wrenchoperator6435
@wrenchoperator6435 3 жыл бұрын
I've been an automobile technician for 40 years and know a thing or two about tires. While I agree it's generally a good idea to go with a higher load rating than comes on most RVs for the reliability, there is a trade off. The flexibility of the sidewall on a tire is part of your suspension system. When you increase the load rating, and the number of plies in the tire, which is usually also accompanied by an increase in recommended air pressure, you are significantly increasing the ride harshness of your suspension. Those J rated tires aren't very compliant unless they're loaded down with more weight. If you've ever done this in a truck, run a much higher load rated tire, you know they will ride very harsh and you'll feel every crack in the road surface. Although no one is riding in your RV, the increased harshness from every bump and crack in the pavement will shock and stress the interior, cabinets, and frame of your RV. This may lead to cabinet failure or other things shaking apart after thousands of miles. The trade off between tire reliability and having a tire that is compliant enough to help absorb shocks is something owners should consider.
@BTBRVReviews
@BTBRVReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@godrulesme8619
@godrulesme8619 2 жыл бұрын
Great info Todd...thanks
@georgea6403
@georgea6403 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Tell that to Airstream and probably a lot of others. They’re putting LT’s on at the factory
@limomarc
@limomarc 3 жыл бұрын
The thing you aren’t talking into account is that speed rating is calculated using the full load capacity of that tire. You are so far UNDER that weight that they will never build up the kind of heat that could damage the tire. You can easily take that tire to 67-70 mph at the weight you have on them. There is absolutely ZERO reason to replace them!!
@Jtwizzle
@Jtwizzle 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if he says he usually tows at 62mph I am confused why he is even questioning swapping out the tires. Not to mention the point you brought up.
@romaldemgle5867
@romaldemgle5867 3 жыл бұрын
I love to here what you say on all subjects . You give it strait no b.s. Thank you for that
@bigoldal2436
@bigoldal2436 3 жыл бұрын
Full time 30 + years and now have Carlisle on my 28 ft tag along after2 blowouts 25 miles apart in SC I 95 with Goodyear Marabombs ! One blowout in 1988 but none since. Endurance look good but Carlisle have been decent.
@preachers4135
@preachers4135 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what and how many changes each manufacturer has made to these tires since 1988. Acquisitions, mergers, board meetings, CEOs changing... business changes fast and decisions affect the final product / services.
@leeglidewell1473
@leeglidewell1473 3 жыл бұрын
I said it once and I'm gonna say it again, JD. What is the darn hurry? Slow down and enjoy the trip. Y'all are probably carrying precious cargo (wife, kids, pets etc.). Besides that, the towing speeds in most states is the same for RVs as it is for semis. Wear the Goodyears out while y'all arrive safely. Then y'all will be able to enjoy the family and the coffee station. Giddy up.
@loveracing1988
@loveracing1988 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer to spend my vacation camping not driving.
@leeglidewell1473
@leeglidewell1473 3 жыл бұрын
@@loveracing1988 I suppose y'all could set up a tent in the yard so y'all don't have to drive. I'm going to be observing the speed limit when I'm in my truck and RV(or close to it). By the header on y'all's post I think y'all should confine the racing to the racetrack, not the highway. No offense intended, but speed ratings on race tires are important. RVs... not so much.
@danieljohnston5306
@danieljohnston5306 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, slow down, enjoy life. Above 65 you’re a fool anyway no matter what tire you have!
@canzcustoms
@canzcustoms 3 жыл бұрын
Had Westlake tires on my jayco t30f and all 4 failed, they were original 4 years old, stored inside, maybe 5000 miles on them. I went to the endurance because speed and load ratings.
@Augiebracerofam
@Augiebracerofam 3 жыл бұрын
I think you should keep them longer and do a review on them.
@Harry-zz2oh
@Harry-zz2oh 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Changing out now you (and your viewers) won't know how well they have worked. Contact the manufacturer to obtain their input and also to let them you will be evaluating the tires. Based on the comments over the next two or three years, you should be able to obtain a great set of data to provide users as well as the manufacturer. My other point, let the manufacturer know most RVers do like a set of heavier tires to support the load but also ones which will handle up to 75 mph. Myself, I usually drive around 70 mph, but I live in New Mexico where the distances are very far apart between towns and cities. Just like Texas, it takes a full day to get from one end of the state to the other but going across takes longer.
@mattsmith3305
@mattsmith3305 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative. I would keep the J-rated tires for now. Don't worry about only driving 62 MPH, I'll be right behind you.
@acdii
@acdii 3 жыл бұрын
I can't see taking the risk to do the "limit" while towing a big box. I stay 70 and under, usually run right around 65. Speed kills, the faster you go, the higher the risk. Just ask the couple who dangled off a bridge when a wind gust hit their trailer while they were coming around a curve at 80 MPH which was the limit. Makes me wonder if they would even know how to react if something got in their way. I used to drive Commercial and did have a small Escort stop on the interstate and tried to back up because they missed their exit, I couldn't go left, lots of cars going faster than I was, couldn't go right due to construction, but was able to avoid killing the driver and missed the car by a few inches, took out a barricade, missed a bulldozer and finished up with my cab 90* to the road in the middle lane. I was doing 50MPH at the time. Any faster and it would have been game over for the escort driver. If you never have experienced that, then you wouldn't understand why I feel going 80 towing a heavy RV behind is a bad idea. Because of that I would be just fine with 62MPH tires.
@jamesbass9797
@jamesbass9797 3 жыл бұрын
JD this topic is the exact reason why I changed my trailer suspension and tires. I had a fully independent suspension put on my 5th wheel trailer and installed G-Rated tires. The ride is much better and I'm getting a little better fuel mileage as well.
@ryan_torres
@ryan_torres 3 жыл бұрын
You know you're an adult when you get excited about buying a new rug!
@CPTTango30
@CPTTango30 3 жыл бұрын
I get excited with a new quality pen.
@timengle3042
@timengle3042 3 жыл бұрын
🤣😂🤣😂 I was really grateful you posted this video. We are going to replace our tires on our 5th wheel and were wondering what tire to buy. Your video "again" has set us in the right direction. THANK YOU.👍
@stevenfoster5737
@stevenfoster5737 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I think I’d keep the peace of mind and stay with the tires you have. Your fifth wheel is a beast and 62mph is fast enough for something that large and heavy lol.
@stronghealthyandawesome7358
@stronghealthyandawesome7358 3 жыл бұрын
I made my own step covers with rugs from Dollar Tree, grommets and bungee cords. Works perfectly and cost me less the $10.
@robertschulke1596
@robertschulke1596 3 жыл бұрын
Re: 62 MPH, consider fuel expense. Dragging a big box at speed makes a lot of drag, it increases as the square of your speed. Slowing down can save a lot of gas, and decrease the load on your engine and transmission a lot.
@jamesb.1156
@jamesb.1156 3 жыл бұрын
The magic number 2,000 rpm. No matter what platform anybody uses, after 2k rpm the mileage decreases dramatically. I have tested this with Duramax, Cummins, and Powerstroke. Just my .02 after 39 years of turning wrenches, etc.
@robertschulke1596
@robertschulke1596 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesb.1156 how does that work with a gas engine?
@jamesb.1156
@jamesb.1156 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertschulke1596 please try this with your gas truck pulling a heavy load...
@davidpeiffer8989
@davidpeiffer8989 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesb.1156 I have a small camper with 13"tires installed lift kit ,sewer line was always lower than camp hookup,now I can install 14" hope to use "d" rated as Jim under 3,000 lbs .the 2000 rpm works well for my 2.7 f-150. The question is should I add shock kit?
@preachers4135
@preachers4135 3 жыл бұрын
@UCWHMaDG-Rs31583su_ySiqg Lol gas truck pulling a heavy load, if you want to get there before Christmas it’ll take 4,000 RPMs.
@birdlady2725
@birdlady2725 3 жыл бұрын
Im glad you have a voice in this industry.. This upgrade should have happened a long time ago. Especially with these long trailers. I would imagine a heftier sidewall would be important as I bet curbs may be visited by many new towers Lol! *Granite curbs, are razor sharp in places - ask our school bus drivers at our high school lol! An expensive whoopsie. Thank you for this info.
@christopherhodson4049
@christopherhodson4049 3 жыл бұрын
Good to learn about the different size and Ratings of tires for sure. Good job. Thanks.
@christianallen9653
@christianallen9653 3 жыл бұрын
I very much appreciate the correct information with the tires and reading it. I see way too much misinformation or just blatant lies about sidewall sizes and ratings. Long time viewer, and appreciate your videos. Keep it up!
@davidlabrenz7230
@davidlabrenz7230 3 жыл бұрын
If you are upgrading your tires you need to look at the weight rating and inflation pressure that your rims are rated for also
@brianelliott5339
@brianelliott5339 3 жыл бұрын
I just put some Freedom Hauler All Steel 235/85R16’s on our Eagle 5th wheel. They are G-rated for load and have a 81 mph speed rating. Each tire was $165 installed.
@tboat4015
@tboat4015 3 жыл бұрын
I used the wrap around rugs on my steps, much better (safer) for wife and dogs.
@gcflower99
@gcflower99 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, the Alcoa rims for the trailer to match the truck! That would look really cool!! Keep the tires, at least for enough trips to test wear, etc.
@90jhhrocky
@90jhhrocky 3 жыл бұрын
Because of your videos. I put Sailun load range G on my car gooseneck car hauler. Trailer came with cheap load range E . Didn't like them. I am really liking these Sailun tires.
@97minitaco
@97minitaco 3 жыл бұрын
JD I bought a set of G rated Sailuns for my chaparral based off your recommendations. They get installed on Monday.
@superjoe83
@superjoe83 3 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that low speed rating is because of the extreme heat and load rating, if your not driving across hell you should be ok to push them a little past the speed rating
@JONNYGEEKMANG
@JONNYGEEKMANG 3 жыл бұрын
JD one thing I didn't hear you mention is the effect of the super stiff tire on the nvh transferred to the 5th wheel. These aren't built like commercial trailers as you know and a sidewall that's significantly stiffer may have longer term affects on the 5th wheel from the ride harshness. Think of an LT tire on a small suv. It'll ride like it's on bricks.
@genehart261
@genehart261 3 жыл бұрын
It's about time! Crappy tires have been the dirty little secret of the towable industry. 235/85/r16 load range e are available in all-steel construction. Michelin XPS rib and Bridgestone Duravis. Costco and Discount tire.
@GTPCarpy
@GTPCarpy 3 жыл бұрын
Does Bridgeatone make better trailer tires than they do automotive?
@genehart261
@genehart261 3 жыл бұрын
@@GTPCarpy My experience is limited to the steel belted sidewall duravis in the 235/85/r/16 size, load range "E" where they performed beautifully on my fifth wheel.
@lkrk10
@lkrk10 3 жыл бұрын
Why the concern of going fast. I just don't understand the need to speed with that much weight.
@markbremmer8642
@markbremmer8642 3 жыл бұрын
Talk to semi truck driver's hauling cattle. The run way above the speed limit. Faster than 80 from a video I saw.
@Knirin
@Knirin 3 жыл бұрын
Keeping up with traffic is one concern. If they keep raising passenger vehicle speed limits, just put in some decent 100mph passenger rail.
@tyonarms6735
@tyonarms6735 3 жыл бұрын
Also a note. If you run an all steel tire low on pressure. Just plan on replacing it.
@TripleWAdventures
@TripleWAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I have a Rockwood Ultra lite ( gvwr 11835 ) and just had one of the CastleRocks blow out, made in 2017 and about 4000 miles. I just changed out the tires to a Transeagle ST II radial 225/75r15. These were recommended by a friend who sells tractor trailer tires. I hope that they are as good as his says.
@brandonm6052
@brandonm6052 3 жыл бұрын
That speed limit is a no go for me. I’m not trying to win a race but I do want the ability to run the speed limit here in Nebraska or wherever should I so choose.
@texaswagon2957
@texaswagon2957 3 жыл бұрын
Come to West Texas. Speed limit is 80 MPH and if you drive 80 then you might get run over. To fast for me.
@mathewkulczyk1645
@mathewkulczyk1645 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought an XLR Hyperlight HD 3112 toy Hauler. Towed it approximately 100 miles home from the place i got it from. I replaced the Westlake Super ST 235-80-R16 tires it came with for Goodyear Endurance 235-80-R16 tires due to some videos I've seen about having blow- outs with the Chinese tires from the RV manufacturer. I figure better safe than sorry!! Both are load range "E" so I feel better about the new Goodyear brand then the Westlake I haven't heard of. Just a little "peace of mind " for a new Toy Hauler user that will carry my new Polaris RZR two seater now that I'm retired. Thanks for your informative videos. Lots of Great info 👍 and well done easy to understand content too. 😃🇺🇸
@mcclungfarm7965
@mcclungfarm7965 3 жыл бұрын
Always had Sailun G rated tires on my 5th wheel. The new rig I just bought has 17.5" Cooper H rated tires. I hope they live up to the Sailun tires.
@bigg2875
@bigg2875 3 жыл бұрын
Michelin XPS Rib tires been running them for 14 years on my KZ Inferno changed them out at 7 years still had plenty of tread on them I put about 20000 miles a year on them. Then I put them on a tandem duel wheel gooseneck for another couple years just to wear them out. I know have a KZ Venom 4114 TK I’ve had for 1 1/2 years now put the XPS on it when I bought it. NEVER a tire problem with an E rated tire with a great ride.
@1KDirtmod
@1KDirtmod 3 жыл бұрын
Wish you could do a review on Boar wheels and the 225/70/19.5 that would fit on your trailer. I think it would look good also be rated the same as your truck.
@darisanshanger1616
@darisanshanger1616 3 жыл бұрын
I did love it.. I know you get allot of comments.. I don’t know if you remember mine from a while ago.. but as I look at this world of RVing.. I’m concerned about the suspension parts of 5th wheels. I have seen a few folks I follow have serious issues there
@SK-qt1rm
@SK-qt1rm 3 жыл бұрын
Save them for your other trailers if you need the weight load rating in those trailers
@KameleonKustoms
@KameleonKustoms 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I have a Grand Design Transcend Xplor 261BH that has the 205/75 D-rated 15 tires and was looking at the goodyear endurance but they are only D-rated and the Westlakes are already a D-rated tire. Wanted something better. Found the Transeagle J-rated in a 225/75/15 on amazon for same price as the Goodyears. I too do not care about the speed limit because I try not to go above 65mph anyways.
@housesOTR
@housesOTR 3 жыл бұрын
I found Endurance 15" in an E reading at Discount tire.
@Mansahx
@Mansahx 3 жыл бұрын
QUESTION…. WE’RE NEW TO RV’ING. How much should you lift up your RV when trying to balance/level it? Should the balancing/leveling also be used to to lift your RV to help remove weight/pressurr from your tires???? Thanks🙏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾. Great info too!!!!👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@dandennis8465
@dandennis8465 3 жыл бұрын
If you read the fine print you will find a speed rating for all tires. Excessive Speed will kill a tire. I tow at 60 and the slower speed gets me there will less of a chance of having a blowout.
@kevincameron8437
@kevincameron8437 3 жыл бұрын
Mr Endurance tires on my TT are awesome. They hold pressure like crazy. Hardly have to add air, even after sitting all winter. They ride great and good speed rating for interstate travel, although my sweet spot for MPG IS 68. And this gives me a little room to bump it up to pass traffic.
@rdance3
@rdance3 Жыл бұрын
My last travel trailer suffered 3 blow outs in less than 5 hours. My new Grand Design came with H rated tires.
@86rustbucket
@86rustbucket 3 жыл бұрын
Remember that tire speed rating is based on how long the tire can last at that particular speed and maximum load. If you were never close to maximum load than the tire speed capability is much higher than 62 mph. Heat buildup in the tire is a function of speed and load. Unfortunately, Goodyear will never publish how much faster you can go at a lower load there’s just too much liability. Also, quick little clarification, 245 is actually the section width at the “equator” of the tire, the tread width will typically be a bit narrower. 100% agree that your channel and others like your along with just social media is driving the pull for higher load rated tires. We are in a different time where customers now have a stronger voice back to the manufacturers and the good manufacturers actually are listening to the voice of customer. Keep it up! Ps, thanks for calling out that a 10 ply rated tire does not mean that a tire has 10 actual plies!
@philsalsbery9994
@philsalsbery9994 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, thanks. Our Montana came with Sailun tires and I love them. I had never heard of Sailun until seeing your videos and your subsequent praise of them. RV manufacturers "should" never skimp on tires as they are where your precious RV meets the road. A few extra $$$ for good tires should never be an area to save some money. I can't wait to see how these hold up for you, should you decide to keep with them for a while.
@Masterchief68a
@Masterchief68a 3 жыл бұрын
Even if your using the Goodyear endurance tires you don’t HAVE to go 87mph. 62 is a bit low for highway driving it would be better if those j rated ones had a 70 or 75 mph rating. Even so I don’t tow over 65 anyways. Feel safer with the added bonus of 87mph rating.
@JimmyGrl09
@JimmyGrl09 3 жыл бұрын
Great info! I love it when you talk rubber!! Haha!!
@22apoach
@22apoach 3 жыл бұрын
That little rug is cool. Wouldn’t it be better to put the rug on the first step ?
@79random
@79random 3 жыл бұрын
Probably only put it on to show. Leaving them on will only make them filthy during travel
@GTPCarpy
@GTPCarpy 3 жыл бұрын
@@79random the steps go inside the trailer when not in use so not sure how it would get dirty
@dandennis8465
@dandennis8465 3 жыл бұрын
The first 3 steps can get the easy stuff off and the last step can do the final touches.
@stevenbond8912
@stevenbond8912 3 жыл бұрын
I typically don’t drive over 55-60 but I do my best to always stay in the right hand lane. I know legally I’m in the clear but is this bad etiquette or do you think it matters.
@MrKThomas1976
@MrKThomas1976 3 жыл бұрын
JD I would most certainly if it was my trailers take the wheels and tires off the red trailer and put them on my RV just because I want everything to match with my two week, I think it looks really nice and classy when your tow vehicle and all the match wheels call Mike just my humble opinion great videos keep them coming.
@tangydiesel1886
@tangydiesel1886 3 жыл бұрын
Guessing the low speed rating is for the European market. 62mph=100k/h. Most vehicles that are pulling trailers are limited in speed over there. Usually less than 62mph, 55mph (90k/h), or even 49mph (80k/h) in certain areas.
@chrisreports9031
@chrisreports9031 2 жыл бұрын
Also make sure you get the RV trailer and any trailer wheels balanced. I hear so many people and even tire shops say there is no need to balance trailer tires but I disagree. Tire longevity, axle and bearings longevity is extended by balancing trailer wheels.
@markweiner3896
@markweiner3896 3 жыл бұрын
In California the maximum legal limit for towing is 55 MPH...so, your tires are perfect..... By the way, what defines RV tires? I don't tow anything anymore, used to have a teardrop trailer that I towed, but now I have a Class B motorhome... with Michelin Defender light truck tires... they are pretty robust.... Finally, I highly recommend that anymore driving an RV or towing seriously consider a tire monitoring system ... Truck System Technologies makes a great unit and that's their core business, that's all they do... great customer service...
@descent815
@descent815 3 жыл бұрын
I got F rated Goodyear ENDURANCE and they are 4000lbs a tire. It was the best purchase iv made yet! Chinese tires are crap and my rig is far to important that exploding tires. When I’m in the middle of the desert and I’m crossing from California or Oregon down to New Mexico Arizona Las Vegas or anywhere I promise you you’re gonna want those higher rated tires. And 62 miles an hour is a perfect speed and if other people think you’re driving too slow oh well they can go around it’s a simple as that
@josephclara377
@josephclara377 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and incredibly informative, as always.
@sprucegoose1016
@sprucegoose1016 3 жыл бұрын
Thx for all the hard work you put into these videos bud. Your info has helped out sooo much 😎 I'd keep those tires to especially in South Texas. My holiday trailer has c rated tires. As soon as I can I'm gonna upgrade them to g rated good years 👍
@Harry-zz2oh
@Harry-zz2oh 3 жыл бұрын
The next trip to Phoenix will really test the "heat index" for the tires. It does get hot there as well as in New Mexico and west Texas. I know some of the streets have to be watched since in the summer they can get up to 125° +. To me, that is OUCH hot.
@daved6569
@daved6569 3 жыл бұрын
Carlisle also makes a steel case tire for trailers they are bulletproof love them on my 35 foot Carbon toy hauler.
@BTBRVReviews
@BTBRVReviews 3 жыл бұрын
They do make a nice G rated tire.
@daddybairb3256
@daddybairb3256 3 жыл бұрын
If you can use them for your dump trailer or the heavy-duty trailer keep them for that and get some higher speed rated tires for the rv.
@bradbotelho1310
@bradbotelho1310 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, overkill is always better. I found a new tire for 15” travel trailers. Falken wildpeak at3w. 235/75R15. E rated 10 ply with a weight rating of 2755lbs!
@jackorwick
@jackorwick 3 жыл бұрын
You would need to check but I would venture to guess that speed rating applies at maximum load. The rating is there to prevent failure due to heat buildup from the flexing of the sidewall if you only have the tire loaded to half of its capacity i would guess there may be some more wiggle room. Although the speed rating may be because of the weight of the tread and how it is attached. Where centripetal force is trying to pull the tread off. So more research would need done
@tyonarms6735
@tyonarms6735 3 жыл бұрын
Just a note. Max speed rating is determined by 10 percent less than max load. At a sustained speed for more than 1/2 an hour. That being said at max inflation you should be able to travel at a higher velocity than stated.
@stephenpolos1689
@stephenpolos1689 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the legal speed limit was 55 mph for truck pulling fifth wheel trailer or all trailer's has the speed limit changed and you can drive as fast as you want does that affect insurance
@jaynen
@jaynen 3 жыл бұрын
Well JD had a blowout on the way home of my factory F rated Trailer King tires, now looking at G rated ones but having trouble finding the right vendors to look at
@garettcastle2335
@garettcastle2335 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing ruins a trip quite like your cheap stock tires blowing out. It’s frustrating to see such junk being sold on new travel trailers etc.
@jeffboquist3904
@jeffboquist3904 3 жыл бұрын
most tire problems are from lack of care.
@birdlady2725
@birdlady2725 3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to put like an earthquake sensor in the trailer - maybe a couple, like on wall, roof, floor, front vs. rear etc and do some testing with different types of tires - have different cameras at different angles inside as well. I wonder if there could be a clear box with say ping pong balls inside to "see" vibrations? I don't know how to compile the info to useable data, but maybe a local engineering program at a college would be willing to try some experiments collaboration? Also, twisting/torque of body/frames on bumpy or uneven surfaces especially on these super long trailers? Get base lines at slow, med, fast speeds on flat smoothe surfaces and go from there? Sorry, this is the crap my brain ruminate about just sitting out the C.... 😁
@papster33
@papster33 3 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thank you. On my rv I went from F to G. With that there is a higher load rating. Based on the higher load, I reduced my air pressure to help the ride but stay in the load numbers of the rv. Would you recommend that action?
@Terror1Void
@Terror1Void 3 жыл бұрын
That's fine. I drive semi trucks for a living, and as long as you keep air in the tire, and it's inflated to what you're carrying, they'll last. Putting more air than what's required to carry the load only wears the tire out faster and makes the tire soak up all the road instead of relying on the suspension to help.
@Thepriest39
@Thepriest39 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. This topic isn't just for RV's but any trailer. I bout a Load Trail 7K dump trailer and the tires and wheels are crap. "C" load range tires. The wheels are so thin and weak that when I turn with the trailer the wheels themselves bend and flex. What a bunch of crap. The rest of the trailer is good. I am looking for new tires and wheels.
@PreacherwithoutaPulpit
@PreacherwithoutaPulpit 3 жыл бұрын
My advice would be to put that mat on the bottom step so you're not tracking mud or whatever all the way up the other three stairs, just my two cents on it. The whole speed and going to slow is dangerous thing is kind of just hyperbole. There's more than few studies on it because of logistics in this country and just how much freight is moved via roadways. I'm a retired OTR driver with a million miles safe under my belt. That means 1 million miles moving freight without a single ticket or accident to get that award. I never drove over 58 mph with the cruise set on Interstates or Highways and not once was I rear ended or anything like that. I did on more than one occasion end up having to drive past someone who'd passed me and farther down the road been in an accident. I'd also many times throughout the day when making my fuel stop or parking my rig for the night see people who'd passed me going much faster that had ended up going no farther than I had when all said and done. The difference we need to remember between driving 58 and 70 is only 12 mph. So when you think about it how much time are you really saving even on long drives when you consider driving slower gives you more time to react to things, saves some wear and tear and saves fuel. I'd keep those tires, set the cruise at 58mph and enjoy the drive knowing even on a 300 mile trip I only gave up a half hour or so and I'll be much more relaxed when I get there...
@eds5538
@eds5538 3 жыл бұрын
Continental makes a J rated load with L speed rating in that 245/70R17.5. If you're happy with the ones on the F450 maybe give them a try.
@ploppyploppy6554
@ploppyploppy6554 3 жыл бұрын
Please why has no one made a kit RV self assembly . The cost savings and the fun at having bits left over hehe .
@CPTTango30
@CPTTango30 3 жыл бұрын
Now if manufactures would use quality tires from the factory and not the good old Blowmax or Westlake. I replaced my factory tires with Good year endurance (14" TT tires). I looked at the unmounted tires side by side and the tech and I were amazed at how much better built the Goodyears were than Westlake. The sidewalls were 2 to 3 times thicker than the Westlake.
@iglapsu88
@iglapsu88 3 жыл бұрын
Love the step rug!
@jamesb.1156
@jamesb.1156 3 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend balancing these rv tires? And would a load range G truck tire work on RV fifth-wheel trailers. There seems to be a shortage of trailer rated G tires in Northern Minnesota... please advise, thx. James from DULUTH MN.
@SK-qt1rm
@SK-qt1rm 3 жыл бұрын
I got my tires from store that offered balancing for free. I had them balanced with the tire minder installed.
@mikefoehr235
@mikefoehr235 3 жыл бұрын
Castlerock.....AKA...Chinabomb....I tow our Rockwood Roo with my Tundra and I drive about 110 km/hr or 70 mph. That is more than fast enough for me.
@donhaas8547
@donhaas8547 3 жыл бұрын
I looked up J speed rated tires. They are advertised for around town use. Your tires don't seem like the right tire for your application. In many areas you will have to travel faster than 62mph. Unless you want to risk being rear ended.
@55azguy
@55azguy 3 жыл бұрын
Toyo m1430 look at this tire ,thanks . Toyo tires are always at the top of the class .
@kevinmoran864
@kevinmoran864 3 жыл бұрын
So one thing I always did on my trailer tires that I don’t see is,I have always balanced my trailers tires I found out they wear better and trailer better! What’s your thought on that JD?
@texaswagon2957
@texaswagon2957 3 жыл бұрын
I use the centermatics balance ring works great.
@jonbutzfiscina1307
@jonbutzfiscina1307 2 жыл бұрын
What about the MINIMUM temperature you can operate these tires? Being a high temp tire, will it perform well at low temps? Sometimes, you have to move an RV in the winter.
@ogmgp
@ogmgp 3 жыл бұрын
What about the weakening of the tire sidewalls when twisting actions occur on them when turning sharply? Surely this leads to weakening overtime, leading to destructive failures? What I find alarming is the lack of protection in the RV’s wheel well and the fact that critical lines are being run so closely to it. When a blowout does occur it can destroy far more than just the tire.
@Mike-qz9ex
@Mike-qz9ex 3 жыл бұрын
Does moving from a E rated tire to a G rated tire require a change with the wheel or will they fit equally the same? Thanks.
@55azguy
@55azguy 3 жыл бұрын
The same
@jimdinwiddie4837
@jimdinwiddie4837 3 жыл бұрын
The wheel size will be the same but make sure the PSI rating of the tire isn't greater than that of the wheel.
@Mike-qz9ex
@Mike-qz9ex 3 жыл бұрын
@@55azguy Thank you
@Mike-qz9ex
@Mike-qz9ex 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimdinwiddie4837 Thank you
@timothybockhoff1075
@timothybockhoff1075 3 жыл бұрын
I have 14” rims so the highest I could get was a Goodyear Endurance D Rated
@housesOTR
@housesOTR 3 жыл бұрын
I'm picking up a new trailer this month with the same issue. Waiting to see what tires they put on it.
@TheBandit7613
@TheBandit7613 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you have good insurance when the tread separates.
@preachers4135
@preachers4135 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBandit7613 It’ll be fine, as long as he’s transporting feathers under 30MPH.
@TheLakingc
@TheLakingc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I think you have definitely affected and effected change. I think user groups have, too. That, and personal beliefs, i believe led Alliance to begin their company with customer service as a priority. Now that i have seen your videos on Coachman Brookstone, i think they were in that same upgrade mindset. That seemed to spark others to upgrade, too, however i am not sure about true customer service with the others. Watching all of the videos i have, i see some lower priced models have lots of perks, more than some higher priced, however, there must be a cut someplace to get the price down. I was shocked to see how little the dealer makes on such a high ticket item, if my source was correct. I would feel guilty asking for too great a cut in price after reading that. But it did not mention volume. It all gets split up to cover many costs of running a dealership, too. I wonder what the honest percentage of the msp goes to which group and how it breaks down for each group involved. When you really consider how many people it takes to build a total RV, and also all those procuring components, then receiving, unpacking and handing off to the factory... Then there is probably insurance on each to transport them and the procuring of the driver and his costs. I bet i only thought of a few of the many steps, leaving out the piles of paperwork, including warranty and repair info... and redundancy of online workings...there is a cost for storing that info and the office equipment and staff. Gives me nausea thinking of it all. So, there are very good reasons why they are so costly that i never considered. It is like discovering as a city kid that milk comes from a cow on a farm, not just magically appears at the store! I think that would be a good point to make while maybe reworking your factory video. Maybe a series interviewing the people who make it happen behind the scenes (standing next to their own rigs and trucks, of course). Thanks for your great info and for being so trustworthy.
@GunsmithLC
@GunsmithLC 3 жыл бұрын
Overkill? Um, I'd say... "J" rating IMHO is a bit silly, but what the hey - it works!!. But as to 'speed', I'm with you - I do not go above 65 on the highway/freeway with my toy hauler..
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 3 жыл бұрын
Why not put on light truck tires? You have to change the wheel of course. But they are very strong, have a higher speed rating, and can handle what you throw at them
@americanrambler4972
@americanrambler4972 3 жыл бұрын
I think these are the wrong tires for your application. They do not have the speed rating you need. The load rating is to high. The sidewalls will be to stiff and cause a more harsh wide with less sidewall flex to accommodate chuck hole and poor road conditions. They will transmit much more of the road shocks and judder into the suspension and into the trailer itself. I suspect they also add a notable amount of extra sprung weight to the suspension. That is my opinion.
@iglapsu88
@iglapsu88 3 жыл бұрын
Keep the J Rated tires. How fast do you really need to go hauling a big 5th wheel?
@callen7100
@callen7100 3 жыл бұрын
The speed rating is something too many people ignore. They go down the road 75 MPH and complain when the tire blows out. Nobody needs to be in that big of a hurry.
@ricbailey170
@ricbailey170 3 жыл бұрын
You’ve never mentioned Arisun tires which come on some keystone models. Any background on them? 🤔😉
@henryford2736
@henryford2736 3 жыл бұрын
You are not full timer, basically camping locally. No need to change your tires. You don't travel far enough to review tires anyway.
@mclovin6390
@mclovin6390 3 жыл бұрын
We bought a 2021 Forest river Wildwood Heritage Glen 378FL with Castle Rock ST ST235/80R16 “G rating”. Made in China. Should we hurry and upgrade?
@richmanwisco
@richmanwisco 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a publicly available database out there with tire performance and failure data? I hear lots of stories, but see no data. I'm pretty sure NHTSA has such data (because there's a law that requires reporting) but I can't find it anywhere.
@lutephilips5550
@lutephilips5550 3 жыл бұрын
Completely off topic. My inlaws have modified the inside of their trailer. Wondered if you could do a video talking about that. Gotta be some safety/weight concerns/structural issues when people do that.
@dearbulls
@dearbulls 3 жыл бұрын
"Upgrade" to Sailun(赛轮) from Westlake(威狮)? Both are Chinese brands, what the heck?
@thomasreichert7960
@thomasreichert7960 3 жыл бұрын
I ve had West Lake G rated tires for 2 years and they’re great!
@BigBadJohnDiesel
@BigBadJohnDiesel 3 жыл бұрын
Sailuns are actually decent tires as well!
@texaswagon2957
@texaswagon2957 3 жыл бұрын
I run the S635 Sailun tires along with a self balancing ring to keep them good and balanced. They run cooler and and keeps the vibrations down. A tire out of balance can destroy a new trailer.
@richmanwisco
@richmanwisco 3 жыл бұрын
All tires sold in the USA, regardless of country of origin, are required to meet or exceed the standards set by the DOT. So what's your point again?
@dearbulls
@dearbulls 3 жыл бұрын
@@richmanwisco My point is, I'm from China. And I've never seen ANY of these brands in China. Even the Chinese people are not using them. We use Michelin, continental, good year, bfg, Yokohama, hankook, kumho, etc.
@jpowler
@jpowler 3 жыл бұрын
So....warning signs. I have a TPMS with temps. What kind of warning signs should I look out for? I just bought a keystone cougar with trailer king tires. With all the talk, I want to change but I cant justify the $600+ expense at the moment for Good Year, sailun (spelling) tires.
@b3877896
@b3877896 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, if it were mine I'd replace those tires as soon as the sidewalls get dirty, but .... that's just me!
@TheBandit7613
@TheBandit7613 3 жыл бұрын
Goodyear sucks. I won't get sucked into buying them a again.
@toddswenson
@toddswenson 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe not worth commenting because everyone always pays attention to the ratings right? Especially when trying to get to the campsite at check in to make the most of that 1st day. I notice my goodyear endurance tires have a variable weight rating that looks to revolve around the speed rating. The specifications chart shows a range of weights matched to pressures. Keeping in mind the trailer manufacture guidelines, we all know that too little pressure can overheat a tire because of the additional flex, maybe some additional factors. Other than assuming that the manufacturer designs for centrifugal forces one could assume looking at the ratings chart that with just a few extra pounds of air you might be safer at higher speeds. I'm pretty sure that you picked a PSI for your tires based on an "assumed" weight of your trailer and it's manufacture guidelines, I think most people fit this category. Seems to me there's some room to maneuver around the spec chart based on what you want to accomplish. Publishing every conceivable variation would be excessive at best. I love my tires, even at the ratings with 87 mph top speed and lots of load range capability. I know it's best practice to stay within published specs because that's what's been tested, just saying.
@PauseHawaii
@PauseHawaii 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Timely video for me. Looking to upgrade the China bombs that came with my Geo pro travel trailer. Curious what your recommendation would be for a lightweight 19 foot camper trailer with a single axle. I live in Texas too and so am frequently on hot highways. My biggest criteria for purchase is durability because with the single axle a blowout could cause a lot of damage so I want to avoid that at all cost. Generally I purchase at discount tire but I’m open to looking elsewhere. We love your channel and you really know your trailer so I would value your comments. Thanks so much and God bless.
@housesOTR
@housesOTR 3 жыл бұрын
I "had" a single axle trailer and changed it to Endurance. I'm our wreck the tires made it through. The tire and rim just ripped off the hub leaving the nuts attached. Guys tires, ruined axle.
@drome010381
@drome010381 3 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on Towstar tires from Les Schwab?
@thetravlinman8111
@thetravlinman8111 3 жыл бұрын
Rating of a tire (example G) is simply a load rating, NOT a quality rating. I’ll take a Goodyear Endurance E rated tire over any China made G rated tire (for a trailer weight not exceeding a E load rating). Westlake tires are crap, as are most China made trailer tires. There is a lot more variables in a quality tire besides the load rating!
@drome010381
@drome010381 3 жыл бұрын
I am getting Sailun this morning on my 2008 gulfstream and I am concerned the spare tire cable won't hold the weight. Thoughts? Went from marabombs at 30 lbs. 🤷‍♂️
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