Bike Fitter RANKS Saddles Worst to Best

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@pauliui78
@pauliui78 5 ай бұрын
I'm using specialized power 143mm /110 sitbone width. The best saddle I've ever used.
@JohnWest-k4m
@JohnWest-k4m 5 ай бұрын
I have used the power for ages, works for me - upgraded to the power mirror - even better! The old power now on KickR bike works a treat too - even when not moving around a lot
@j.schaefer5622
@j.schaefer5622 5 ай бұрын
Yesss, the 143mm Power and the 143mm Phenom are the best saddles for me too.
@CapnHilts
@CapnHilts 3 ай бұрын
Ya this guy's more of a comedian than an actual ergonomist.
@ShawnIsBatman
@ShawnIsBatman 5 ай бұрын
As a dedicated roadie, the two pieces of equipment that I have gone through the most variations of are saddles and shoes. I have settled on the Selle Italia SLR Boost (3D) and Lake shoes and am finally completely satisfied. My general criteria for knowing that a component like saddles or shoes are the right ones is that when I am riding I never find myself thinking about them.
@eyeq1451
@eyeq1451 5 ай бұрын
SQLab 612 Ergowave Active on both bikes. I have an SQLab "Premium" bike shop nearby, and when I bought the first one they said I could swap it within four weeks to a different one if I get uncomfortable. The longest ride on one of them was 312 km in a day, but I have done multiple 200+ km days as well so I'd say they fit very well. 😊
@joschisasa
@joschisasa 5 ай бұрын
same for me. best saddle(s) i had (so far?)
@alexprofos5232
@alexprofos5232 5 ай бұрын
SQLab saddles are just perfect for me as well, I have a 614 Ergowave Active 2.1 on my gravel bike and took the same size as my, about 12 year old, 612, they might be not the lightest, specially the "active", but I guess they are the best for fitting as they come in 1cm increment sizes and you can get the "more" perfect size, not sure why they are not mentioned more on english speaking channels
@doc-slider5345
@doc-slider5345 5 ай бұрын
I ride the SQLab 614 on my gravel for long long travel and the 612 on my racebike. I have been cycling since 1972 and these SQLabs are the best of the best.
@Indik47
@Indik47 5 ай бұрын
same for me, tried 612 - SQLab is the best
@aquicktake
@aquicktake 4 ай бұрын
Got the 612 Ergowave a week ago. Have to say that my seat bones are quite sore now. And, I am experiencing some left side hip flexor pain I wasn't feeling before. I guess I should account the seat bone pain to apparently I wasn't sitting that much on those bones?? Plan on giving it another week or two and see if it works out.
@mr_m_to_the_t
@mr_m_to_the_t 5 ай бұрын
Had a fit with James in May. Tried some different ones, came with an Ergon SMC40 and left with with it. Had saddle issues before, now don't have them anymore. Changing the position and insoles did the job!
@ncsteinb
@ncsteinb 4 ай бұрын
The ISM saddle has changed my riding experience. I've been to pro bike fitters many times and struggled with saddle pain after 1 hr of riding. The ISM has allowed me to have many hours of comfort on the bike, and allows me to enjoy the sport again. Thanks ISM!!
@superglue46
@superglue46 4 ай бұрын
Sames. Game changer for me, specifically the Breakaway.
@kevinburns4947
@kevinburns4947 2 ай бұрын
Yup. I bought an ISM Adamo years ago. Brilliant.Tried loads of others but was in pain sooner or later. The ism was perfect. Recommend you at least try these. Bought my son an ISM City as Adamo no longer available. My bike fit is just fine
@shaunbyrne9553
@shaunbyrne9553 Ай бұрын
Yes ISM was a game changer for me too. ❤PN1.0 my favorite. Great support when down in a tuck or grinding out the miles in tourist mode.
@barryliu3473
@barryliu3473 5 ай бұрын
143mm power has been a blessing personally
@barryliu3473
@barryliu3473 5 ай бұрын
Coming from a selle italia boost slr s3
@Davido0013
@Davido0013 5 ай бұрын
Why its better? What problems u had with selle italia?
@Vanagon_life
@Vanagon_life 5 ай бұрын
143 power saddle is on all my bikes love it
@barryliu3473
@barryliu3473 5 ай бұрын
@@Davido0013 I just had hot spots on the inside of my thigh that potentially formed saddle sores when I stay in the saddle for like 3+hours. And yes I had a bike fit with the selle italia fitted. I just transferred the power saddle on, pushed it basically all the way forward and it has been a blessing since. I can even do like 2 hour on it without bib shorts.
@s3cr3td00rindar00m
@s3cr3td00rindar00m 5 ай бұрын
and for me the 155mm version and I am a 1.68m 63 Kg guy
@hectorkidds9840
@hectorkidds9840 5 ай бұрын
Pro stealth has been awesome for me, no saddle issues at LEL using drops, hoods and aero bars. Best saddle I've ever tried (for me).
@markbradtke5962
@markbradtke5962 5 ай бұрын
A yes from me.😀
@kenannable4747
@kenannable4747 5 ай бұрын
Using the SQLab 611 Ergowave on my three bikes, and this model has worked well for me.
@jespernohr
@jespernohr 5 ай бұрын
After my fit with James, I ended up on the amazing Selle Italia Boost SLR S3. Super happy with it on my road bike. In another video with James he mentioned he had been trying out the Endurance version and was happy with it. So I bought one for my indoor bike. I am soooo happy with it, that I will go on my next bike, an adventure bike. PS. BikefitJames a man so nice they named him twice.
@tkbuz
@tkbuz 5 ай бұрын
Any suggestion how to determine whether I should order 130 width or 145?
@jespernohr
@jespernohr 5 ай бұрын
@@tkbuz I cannot tell what is best for you but I am really happy with mine and those are 130.
@andymarshall8420
@andymarshall8420 5 ай бұрын
Tried the Power expert 155mm on my gravel bike, super comfy, no issues at all. Moved it over to my hardtail mtb and its been a revelation. Upgraded to a Power Expert with mirror 155mm on the gravel bike and changed seatpost. That's needed some tweaking but itll get there.
@flipper2gv
@flipper2gv 5 ай бұрын
Wider saddles on smaller bikes is because they expect most of those who will use those bikes to be women.
@Bikefitjames
@Bikefitjames 5 ай бұрын
WHO DO NOT NEED WIDER SADDLES!!!!
@akirarex
@akirarex 5 ай бұрын
@@Chris-jc3lr and Trek does this as well
@irfuel
@irfuel 5 ай бұрын
Which is nonsense
@flipper2gv
@flipper2gv 5 ай бұрын
@@irfuel why?
@alexr4586
@alexr4586 5 ай бұрын
@@irfuel why nonsense? That makes perfect sense! Very small frame sizes are rarely ridden by men! Of course, it would make more sense to be able to choose when buying
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 5 ай бұрын
I took one ride on a Specialized Power saddle and that was enough for me. Rode WTB Volt for several years it was decent but could start getting uncomfortable on longer rides. Now using a Ergon SM Enduro Comp, which is the most comfortable saddle I've ridden, and has the odd thing where it actually gets more comfortable when going uphill. And this is even with a steep STA and slight forward tilt on the saddle as it's on an enduro bike. It's also the smallest saddle I've used, which is nice because it gets out of the way very nicely when the dropper is down.
@supertramp6612
@supertramp6612 5 ай бұрын
My heart broke when the SMP came on and James slated the look. But only because I ride one! Me and my mates have all been riding SLR Boosts for a couple of years but found that on the big rides they would get uncomfortable. Our bike fitter recommended the SMP Nymber which we all recoiled at initially but eventually succumbed. We're now all riding them on road and gravel bikes and have no issues even on 100 miles + rides. Genuinely the most comfortable saddle I've ridden. Every time I see it, a part of me does die inside slightly..
@ashleyhouse9690
@ashleyhouse9690 5 ай бұрын
I had a bike fit with James and bought an SLR Boost on his recommendation. OK for 20-30 miles but any longer and it felt like I was sitting on a plank of wood. Eventually tried a Bontrager Verse Comp and am much more comfortable on rides up to 100 miles.
@paulhadlington8179
@paulhadlington8179 5 ай бұрын
I've tried a number of saddles and the ones that worked best for me were the cheap and cheerful "Charge" submissions. Ive ridden 80-100 miles regularly using either the "spoon" version on my endurance bike, and the "knife" on my faster road bike.
@edrubin6042
@edrubin6042 5 ай бұрын
While it may be wrong for road the "beak" shape of the SMP is a stretched out version of WTB's mountain bike saddle which is great for off road. On an MTB the beak gives leverage out of the saddle in rock gardens and the kick up at the rear helps positioning while descending. My "road bike" has the inexpensive San Marco saddle Redline stuck on the Conquest Pro in 2009 and I'll use it until it wears out
@allrounderbicycle7193
@allrounderbicycle7193 4 ай бұрын
I believe the San Marco Ponza came on that Conquest.
@johnleonard5936
@johnleonard5936 5 ай бұрын
I tried the Selle Italia SLR BOOST and it took months to recover. I then tried the Selle SMP Well and absolutely love it. Everyone is different.
@craigharold492
@craigharold492 5 ай бұрын
Ritchey Vector, off my 96 Marin Bear Valley. By far, in nearly fifty years of cycling, the best saddle for me 💪🏼
@SlickWillyTFCF
@SlickWillyTFCF 5 ай бұрын
My bike came with a Fizik Aliante and it caused nothing but issues, mainly genital numbness within the first 20-30 minutes of a ride. I took a shot in the dark and bought a Selle Italia Model X and it wasn't much better. Finally decided to get a proper bike fit instead of wasting money blindly buying and trying random parts. My fitter got me on a Pro Stealth Offroad and it's been incredible. No more sore gooch or numb todger, even after multiple hours on the bike.
@xelseartheonlyone1267
@xelseartheonlyone1267 4 ай бұрын
I have a Pro stealth too. The wings though destroy me. I use the 142 width one. The 152 is unridable, maybe i should have gotten the more expensive one..?
@SlickWillyTFCF
@SlickWillyTFCF 4 ай бұрын
@@xelseartheonlyone1267 I'm on a 142. I can't imagine how uncomfortable the bigger one would be. I would get a bike fit. Buying random parts in the hope that they will work for you will rapidly exceed the cost of a bike fit, and you may never get it right on your own
@daredemontriple6
@daredemontriple6 5 ай бұрын
Had a bike fit a while back and tried all sorts. I had started with a Prologo Nago without pressure-relief channel. My bike fitter at the time commented that he was amazed I could ride what I was riding while being 6'5 and 120kg almost, he said it must feel "Like riding a knife edge". Tried at least half a dozen other saddles none of which really clicked, even including a SLR boost I think. All far too hard and painful. Then we tried something a bit unorthodox, a Brooks C17 with pressure relief cut-out. It was like sitting in an armchair to be honest, so much more comfortable than anything else I'd ever ridden. It may not look very fast, but we all know a comfy rider rides faster for longer than one who's experimenting with testicular pancakes! Moral of the story, find the problem and then solve it, don't just buy something because it looks cool or has cool tech or the pros use it. It's no good having a 'cool' bike if you never ride it for being in agony
@BikesKomsCRO
@BikesKomsCRO 5 ай бұрын
Think your issue is weight.. i was 115kg and everything was uncomftable.. once i dropped to 100 and now to 95 soon 90 i found more comfort in all saddles. Im using Power Expert 155mm on all bikes now.
@daredemontriple6
@daredemontriple6 5 ай бұрын
@@BikesKomsCRO No doubt, weight is a huge factor and there's no getting around it. Unfortunately, at my height, even at a pretty good body fat % I still weigh about 105-110kg. So my only option really is to cut muscle too which I'd prefer not to do! But it's just a good example of how one needn't ride certain saddles. What I ride now is comfy for me, far more so than other kinds, and yet I'm still at that weight.
@xkpm
@xkpm 5 ай бұрын
Rode a Fizik Arione for years and it only started bothering me during longer (100+) rides. Switched to a Selle Italia Boost SLR S3 last year to see what the hubbub was all about and it was the most uncomfortable thing ever, fine at first but after a while or when really pushing it felt like it was trying to split my hip in half. I thought I just had to get used to it or break it in but after about 300km of testing I couldn't bare it anymore. I do like and tend to move on the saddle depending on the effort, riding position on the bars, terrain or when climbing and the SLR didn't allow me to do any of that (I probably taught myself that throughout the years cause the Arione allows for a lot of moving around). I switched to an old Fabric Line Race Shallow from my parts bin while looking for a new saddle but haven't looked back since, the Line rides great! TLDR; there's no exact science behind what's comfortable everyone, I'm tall and skinny with very little natural cushioning on my butt and still was fine (for the most part) with the hardness of the Arione and felt a pain I haven't felt before or since when riding the Boost SLR.
@franzgustavgauner5601
@franzgustavgauner5601 5 ай бұрын
I rarely whatch Cade stuff anymore but out of curiosity clicked on this one. Coaccidently I changed Bars and Saddle on my Maser Olimpic yesterday and will now try to make more us of the back part of my SLR Boost since I still have to perform my proud and trusty "home saddle bikefit" Thanks for the tip!
@carlnyman4903
@carlnyman4903 5 ай бұрын
Fizik Arione R1, for the simple reason that it is insanely narrow. Although sit bone measurements may not tell the full story, I'm in the 99th percentile of narrowness for men at
@aeropotato
@aeropotato 5 ай бұрын
I use one also, have used them for a long time. guess we both love bad bike fits. i have tried changing, my junk prefers a bit of torture…
@davidmulligan42
@davidmulligan42 5 ай бұрын
I bought the Selle Italia Boost a while back after James recommended it, and it's been working well for me.
@phil_d
@phil_d 5 ай бұрын
You should try the Pro Stealth Curved saddle then. I had the SLR Boost in both widths and I found the amount of opening and lack of cushion on the nose very uncomfortable after an hour. The Stealth has a smaller cutout and therefore more support in that area, with deeper padding. Well worth the 40g extra!
@davidmulligan42
@davidmulligan42 5 ай бұрын
@@phil_d Thanks, I might try it. I don't care about the extra 40g :)
@KoenMiseur
@KoenMiseur 5 ай бұрын
@@phil_d It isn't narrow enough.
@phil_d
@phil_d 5 ай бұрын
@@KoenMiseur Where? At the nose?
@phil_d
@phil_d 5 ай бұрын
@davidmulligan42 I actually had my ar$e pressure mapped because of the discomfort. My position was pretty much spot-on, other than a tiny saddle drop and back (still with the SLR). Mapping was even on the SLR, but you could see the concentration on the nose because the large cut out left little to support. The Stealth has a larger, flatter section on the nose. The normal Stealth (the one James hated) is flatter at the back and has a thicker nose. That rubbed the inside of my thighs straight away.
@One_mole_worth
@One_mole_worth 5 ай бұрын
Curious about jame's thoughts on the sqlabs 612r. Along the lines of bandaid on a problem or a true solution? I've struggled to get an aggressive fit that my flexibility allows for without frontal numbness, despite lowering my seat and having my fit verified. 612r fixed it for me! Just curious if he's used them.
@BrawndoDrinker
@BrawndoDrinker 5 ай бұрын
I've used tons of different saddles in my 40+ years on mt bikes. Couple years back tried out a simple Ergon SMC large and was shocked how good it was. Don't need a chamois any more, and put them on almost my entire stable.
@McHayes76
@McHayes76 5 ай бұрын
The Power saddle (155 mm) finally freed me from pain down under. So I now have one (or a copy) on all my bikes.
@stalker777777777
@stalker777777777 11 күн бұрын
I got power arc expert, but man it is quite poorly made. In comparision to ergon, sqlab or selle italia, it is like a cheap, maybe not chinese, but cheap saddle worth of half or 1/3 of these other companies. IDK if it is just mine or it is just the low quality finish they made...
@stuartlundstrom9570
@stuartlundstrom9570 5 ай бұрын
Tried the Pro Turnix a couple of years ago based on another video that James did. A couple of years later and having replaced all my saddles with the Turnix - I’ve not had a single issue with sores or any discomfort at all 👌🏻
@TY-wd5fv
@TY-wd5fv 5 ай бұрын
Just finished up a bike fit and came out loving the pro stealth... I due have wide hips and I really appreciate how flat the saddle is
@AllThingsAlexanderTromp
@AllThingsAlexanderTromp 5 ай бұрын
Still absolutely in love with my Pro Stealth. One of the main reasons it works for me is that it's short. Not sure I want to visit a bike fitter if they say shortness is a problem...
@stalker777777777
@stalker777777777 11 күн бұрын
I also prefer shorter saddles, so better to sit on from the starting position, and just overally feels better, easier to sit off etc.
@BrotoGP
@BrotoGP 5 ай бұрын
I switched from a Power 143 to the SLR Boost S3. My sitbones are narrow AF so the change was amazing. I should have never ridden the Power 143 and a narrower version was hardly available. But you live and you learn.
@glensmall1
@glensmall1 4 ай бұрын
I used to use the Selle Smp trk, and loved it, but after fitting shorter cranks and fixing my position, I switched to the selle italia boost endurance. Really like it.
@joekawasaki
@joekawasaki 5 ай бұрын
The slr boost is my go to! I got it as a warranty replacement for a saddle they no longer made. It's super light, lightly padded, and comfortable enough to ride without a chamois!
@KoenMiseur
@KoenMiseur 5 ай бұрын
James, I don't always agree with you but you convinced me on the Boost Endurance I have them now on most of my bikes (even the 3D printed one, and I do like it)! It was after a bike holiday where I rented a bike with a very narrow saddle and it fitted me perfectly (with the same measurements as my bike at home), never had that happen before!
@logankfritz
@logankfritz 5 ай бұрын
The Bontrager Commuter Fluid Saddle is a solid saddle for larger riders and casual cyclists. The Selle Royal Explora Saddle is also the most comfortable saddle with road geometry and just a little bit of pressure relief. I've done 80 mi rides on these saddles as a 120 kg rider and they've held up!
@impaledface7694
@impaledface7694 3 ай бұрын
The end of the video probably explains why I can ride most saddles for my normal 30-50mile ride. Of course longer rides impact it more but I have found most saddles work for me, but I get my fit pretty similar on all road bikes.
@billjones7580
@billjones7580 5 ай бұрын
Game changer saddle for me was (is) SMP Composit. Yes. I know, SMP. BUT it was added as part of a bike fit. It took a fair while to dial in but now it's absolutely perfect. 100 miles no issues. Feels the same after 100 miles at it does after the first 5. It's my saddle. I do agree with a lot of what is mentioned in the video, 90% of saddle issues are probably coming from the fit in general
@andreronan1035
@andreronan1035 2 ай бұрын
Currently testing the Fizik Argo Terra x5 Regular 150mm which came with my bike. So far so good.
@anthonyoldfield4965
@anthonyoldfield4965 4 ай бұрын
I swapped out my SLR Boost S3 for a SQLab 612 Ergowave Active 2.1 (13cm) on my road bike, and have the same (albeit 14cm) on my MTB / Gravel.
@lerrjlee9347
@lerrjlee9347 5 ай бұрын
Love my Sqlab 612 Active! I can ride in regular running shorts on my flat bar commuter comfortably for multiple hours. With proper bibs on the road bike it's perfect. I bought the wrong size at first, so there was some trial and error on my part. I bought a 15cm, but in the end switched to a 14cm, the 15cm works fine on my XC bike though.
@paulelkouss
@paulelkouss 5 ай бұрын
I'm also a fan of the super flow boost S3! I'm glad James shared info about it.
@chuckfrizzell8668
@chuckfrizzell8668 5 ай бұрын
Great video. Speaking of OE saddles - I have never kept one on a new bike - until now. 2024 Giant Revolt Advance gravel bike. It came with a Giant Approach saddle. I couldn’t believe the fit and comfort was/is so good. I’m 175cm / 63 kilos, train about 12 hours per week. Best wishes to everyone.
@MikkelZanio
@MikkelZanio 5 ай бұрын
I agree. Cheap saddle but it does the job!
@LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1
@LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1 5 ай бұрын
I second that and you can buy the stealthy integrated light for it. I have a Selle Italia titanium but the Giant Approach is bang on for a stock saddle
@danvardy3950
@danvardy3950 5 ай бұрын
Had many bikes. Giant Approach is the only one I have not changed. Love the light that slots in at the back too
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 5 ай бұрын
Wow, I've owned two giants and I couldn't do one ride on the stock saddle on those.
@buster.keaton
@buster.keaton 5 ай бұрын
Another excellent video by James. I wish he wasn't half way around the globe from where I live as he's convinced me that he's a bike fitter worth paying for.
@madmonkeycycling9098
@madmonkeycycling9098 5 ай бұрын
Went SMP 8 years ago, and never changing
@Silidons91
@Silidons91 5 ай бұрын
I love my Dynamic. I did have to put a straight seatpost, and run it all the way forwards. But I can ride in it for hours and hours with no issues.
@JanGoh-jb5ge
@JanGoh-jb5ge 5 ай бұрын
I wanted to try it, but it's absolutely unusable for cyclocross. I don't know why people keep saying SMP saddles are ugly, though. I like the look.
@Ashbridg3s
@Ashbridg3s 5 ай бұрын
But how do you know if something is better if you don’t try others ;)
@thomasfitzgibbon1675
@thomasfitzgibbon1675 5 ай бұрын
@@JanGoh-jb5gewhy? Does the shape make it dismounting and remounting awkward? I have an SMP on my mtb. Big fan
@JanGoh-jb5ge
@JanGoh-jb5ge 5 ай бұрын
@@thomasfitzgibbon1675 Yeah, anything that isn't flat and smooth is a problem. I had an Arione for a while and that would snag my shorts as my leg came up. CX remounts aren't really a jump onto the seat so much as a high stride that lets you put your inner thigh on the seat and then slide over.
@ru71
@ru71 5 ай бұрын
SLR Boost on all 3 bikes, 3D, endurance and standard. Best saddle I’ve used and a super happy butt. Thanks James and CADE
@michaellee7046
@michaellee7046 5 ай бұрын
@@ru71 how do you like the 3d vs the standard?
@alecledbetter
@alecledbetter 5 ай бұрын
Curious to hear your preference as well after hearing the 3D is James' least favorite of the 3
@ru71
@ru71 5 ай бұрын
@@alecledbetter I have it on my Kickr Bike shift, it was a definite upgrade on the standard one. Haven't tried it on an actual bike yet. Done about 2000km on it, I also got it for half price so which was basically the only reason I went for it over the endurance
@christianfricke1986
@christianfricke1986 5 ай бұрын
After trying a number of saddles and adjusting reach and saddle height I have come to rely on Brooks‘s Cambium C17 Allweather. It‘s comfortable, I have no problems with soreness or numbness, I can park my behind where it is supposed to and I can ride it with or without chamois.
@seandunderdale
@seandunderdale 5 ай бұрын
Is it quite flexy? I've got a c19 and it's pretty rigid. Seen a c17 on KZbin and it flexed a lot.
@christianfricke1986
@christianfricke1986 5 ай бұрын
@@seandunderdale It is medium flexible - since it's natural rubber, it depends on the temperature, too. But yeah, compared to foamy saddles it is quite rigid.
@xelseartheonlyone1267
@xelseartheonlyone1267 4 ай бұрын
I tried all saddles except Brooks! Are they really that good? Might try one when i can...
@christianfricke1986
@christianfricke1986 4 ай бұрын
@@xelseartheonlyone1267You should. The Cambium Allweather is quite long - so it is not built so well for gnarly off road terrain, but it is really comfortable on long rides on road or gravel.
@JasonZais
@JasonZais 5 ай бұрын
Recently built up a gravel bike with the Selle Italia SLR Boost Gravel in teal, and by all measures it's the same as the SLR Endurance. It's damn good! After getting into a bit of a saddle hell, it just worked!
@Abnsdllnnlosnfd
@Abnsdllnnlosnfd 5 ай бұрын
SQ lab for the win
@blaze1148
@blaze1148 5 ай бұрын
...definitely not for me - got the 612 I think and I just as well had sat on the seat post it was so painful !
@clas683
@clas683 3 ай бұрын
I tried the Power saddle and had that excact issue with my thighs shafting and the saddle itself wasn’t too comfortable either. I have around 132-140 mm sitbone width depending on hip angle and from Specialized the Toupé in 155 have worked well. But my favorite is Bontrager Verse in 155. First saddle I can do 100 km+ on multiple days on with no discomfort. Using it on both road and MTB.
@JDPhader
@JDPhader 5 ай бұрын
I ride the PRO Stealth 142. When I was testing saddles about 5 years ago this one came out on top together with Prologo Dimension 143 which was a bit harsher on my sit bones which is why I went with the Stealth. This year I decided to try the Selle Italia SLR Boost 130 after watching James' videos. To be honest it was very underwhelming experience. The shape for sit bones didn't go right with me and also caused my soft tissue to sit too low and the edges of the inner channel were digging into it causing pretty big problems. After a week or so I finally went back to the Stealth and it was bliss.
@yurokle
@yurokle 5 ай бұрын
I've had a similar experience with the SLR. The edges of the pressure relief channel were putting way too much pressure on my bottom. Maybe the padded version of the saddle doesn't have that issue.
@nluisa
@nluisa 5 ай бұрын
Exactly my experience with the SLR boost (fortunately I tried it during a fitting session). I roll my hips forward a lot and the PRO stealth is meant for exactly that. I find the wings a tad sharp on very long rides, so I might try the curved version if this one needs a replacement.
@JoeW71
@JoeW71 4 ай бұрын
I have an Ergon SR Allroad that is pretty comfortable. But my new Felt bike came with a Prologo saddle, also pretty good. Thanks for the good info. I took notes.
@zmejserow
@zmejserow 5 ай бұрын
SQLab 612R for road bike. Absolute win. No issues on races, on regular coffeerides, on climbing adventures or on brevets up to 300km.
@Saladh_Olivier
@Saladh_Olivier 5 ай бұрын
Prologo Nago R4 is my fav atm. It has a pressure relieve channel that goes up to the nose of a saddle, which helps a lot when reading in a more agressive position.
@allrounderbicycle7193
@allrounderbicycle7193 4 ай бұрын
I have not found the golden saddle. Yet. Thing is I use my bike for everything and prefer locking up an swag bin freebie in front of the grocery store, vs, a nice new San Marco Shortfit or SLR. Riding that line between posh and thrash. Right now on a Fabric Line and can stay comfortable on that for up to 4 hours.
@sharokinisayo7389
@sharokinisayo7389 5 ай бұрын
The Selle Italia boost came on my recently purchased Factor Ostro Vam II and it’s the most comfortable saddle I’ve ridden on.
@smjunglist6885
@smjunglist6885 5 ай бұрын
I can't speak for the standard Arione as I've never used it, I can see why it would be bad as there's no relief channel. However, the VS version from years ago is the only saddle I've found which doesn't cause any comfort issues on longer rides. In my opinion It's excellent.
@superglue46
@superglue46 4 ай бұрын
I actually really like my ISM Adomo. I think its the flatness that works for me, so I'm sure others are out there that would work as well or better, but the Adomo was the first comfortable saddle I found.
@rhysmainwaring396
@rhysmainwaring396 5 ай бұрын
After a proper bike fit and some saddle conundrums, Sella Italia Novus Endurance Superflow Ti or Chromoly, size S3! Great saddle but as James says, bikefit and individual requirements are the key
@runningwithshemp
@runningwithshemp 5 ай бұрын
The old Selle Italia non-gel SLC was the best saddle I've ever used. Oddly never promoted by Settle Italia but with it's split wing and dual concave shape it was most adaptable and comfortable for such a low profile seat. At one point I replaced the leather top and replaced the gel inserts with EVA and it was perfect again. I have an SLR and just too little padding, so I'm currently using the Novus but nose is slightly too wide
@jasonmessing
@jasonmessing 5 ай бұрын
My race bike is fitted with the prologo scratch M5 and my trainer Bike the Selle Italia Boost SLR Superflow. Both are comfortable and don't rub my thighs like the Specialized saddles did.
@bald1der
@bald1der 5 ай бұрын
In the process of going through a saddle search now. Looking at the Belle SMP TRK. I like a little more padding and width in my seats.
@VYBEKAT
@VYBEKAT 5 ай бұрын
Selle Italia Flite is the only saddle I don't hate. Flat both front to back and side to side. Very stable and supportive. Similar to the Pro Griffon but more T shaped from above. Everything else has excessive contours that make me feel like i sliding off. Only thing I wish for is the foam to be denser and firmer.
@jopsjosef9414
@jopsjosef9414 5 ай бұрын
I'm with James on the Selle Italia SLR Boost. Have them on both my road and gravel bikes. And agree with James, the endurance model with a little more padding is the one I like most
@koganmb
@koganmb 5 ай бұрын
Ergons have been my goto for several years, but now I'm really liking the Trek/Bontrager Aeolus that came on my Gen 7 Madone. Will be buying a second one for an older road bike. Had planned a repro version of the Flight, but just going to go comfort over vintageness.
@iunnra1s
@iunnra1s 5 ай бұрын
Selle Italia Boost 100%. I've ended up installing one on both of my road bikes. The creak is real but completely overshadowed by the ability to ride long hours with no saddle issues at all.
@monkmchorning
@monkmchorning 2 ай бұрын
My specs are relatively long, relatively flat across, a bit of a dip under the pelvis, and side skirts to prevent thigh chafing. Selle Italia's 1990 Flite and Bontrager's Serano fit the bill. I haven't needed a love channel yet.
@DoraeMew
@DoraeMew 5 ай бұрын
What about Bontrager Verse? It's is one of my no-brainer saddle. It comes in 4 width, 135, 145, 155, 165 mm, also with neutral shape, relief channel, and very long rail. With all of that elements combine should make this saddle fits virtually every road cyclists.
@E.T_rode_bikes_As_well
@E.T_rode_bikes_As_well 5 ай бұрын
It’s like a superold James video…isn’t it?
@andrewcharlesworth2512
@andrewcharlesworth2512 5 ай бұрын
My saddle creaks (after about 3,000 miles) and tried to lube rails where they meet the saddle etc … does it mean it’s worn and needs replacing?
@rubenwesterman
@rubenwesterman 5 ай бұрын
Specialized Romin Mirror 143 on my racebike and MTB. It is the best saddle I ever used and I had many. Its like the Sella Italia Boost but without the hardness. I tried that one in different versions (endurance, etc) but since I ride MTB the most I need good shock absorption to release my sit bones.
@CousinsPicturesORG
@CousinsPicturesORG 5 ай бұрын
I recently bought the road version of the Selle Italia SLR Boost S3 based on James' recommendations in one of your videos and have really enjoyed using it... It's much more comfortable compared to my old saddle which was more flared out like the Specialized Power and had more padding. I was surprised since it felt much stiffer when I first laid my hands on it, but I guess it just fits my butt better :D
@Keanred
@Keanred 5 ай бұрын
Coming from 2014 Specialized Crux oem saddle to an Cervelo Caledonia oem saddle the difference is like day and night. Have had zero issues with the Cervelo saddle where as the Crux was extremely uncomfortable.
@Przemo-c
@Przemo-c 5 ай бұрын
Went through a lot of saddles but for me the one that works is specialized phenom 143 not sure why exactly but i dont have any rub on n my thighs is quite supportive and its easy to change position in.
@rickdoehler502
@rickdoehler502 7 күн бұрын
unfortunately I can't find the Sella Italia Boost S3. For they still make them, if not what is next in line?
@stalker777777777
@stalker777777777 11 күн бұрын
I got the SR allroad core, the core makes a difference. Very comfortable saddle and absorbing shocks. Also i tried the SMC core, and man you are sitting on a cloud... But quite heavy and 15mm longer, also the s/m is a little bit too narrow for me and the m/l could be a little bit narrower to be perfect (i suit best 152-155 saddles, smaller is 148, larger is 161). Also i tried sqlab saddle with the ifinergy(same as ergon core i think) and it was stiffer less pleasure to sit on than the normal version, but when i started riding and come across some bumps, normal saddle was harsh and stiff i felt every bump, but the infiniergy was absorbing like 70-80% of the impact. Also this was with both that got an absorber elastomer, so the thing is with this infinergy core magic, and i got similar feeling with the ergon core saddles that i have with infinergy active sqlab. In the end i can reccomend the ergon CORE series (SR allroad core and smc core). Now i ordered selle italia MAX SLR boost with 155 version to give it a try, 145 i tried was too narrow for me.
@rizaulait2
@rizaulait2 5 ай бұрын
The spe power somehow has a shape that allows many different riders to adjust and find a position on it which is kinda comfortable, even if your fit is bad. I fitted them on my parents E-bikes and they are really happy. From my side, I found it comfy, until it wasn't anymore. Like unbearable. Numbness, sores etc. I switched to the pro stealth "curve" which is not as wide as the standard one, and has a nice round shape. Nice feeling between a flat short nose saddle and a toupe-like saddle. I tried the slr boost s3 (and the wider version also). Not bad, but if you have a tendancy like me to not sit totally square because of hip impingement, I find the channel to be too wide and I get some discomfort on it.
@Zyzzyx42
@Zyzzyx42 5 ай бұрын
Infinity Bike Seat. Coming back to upright bikes after years on a recumbent, its the best that I've found. Several friends in ultracycling community praised them, and they have a good following there. would be fun to hear James' thoughts on this oddity.
@Silidons91
@Silidons91 5 ай бұрын
I had the exact issue that he stated. My Tarmac SL6 came with the Power saddle. I had to change it, it was horrible for me. I thought I had wider sitbones because I'm a larger dude (low BF, 5'11'' 200lbs) but after I measured my sitbones...they're only 102mm apart! No wonder the Power saddle hurt so bad. The Dynamic has been amazing for me, though if I'm on a really long (like 2+ hour) climb (SoCal Mountains), I will have to stand on the bike for a bit.
@oSirSniffleso
@oSirSniffleso 4 ай бұрын
I use the Selle Italia SLR Boost L3 that he has at the end of the video. Amazing saddle, I'll never use other designs.
@4130Media
@4130Media 5 ай бұрын
i use ISM on my normal roadbike and it is still the most comfy saddle ever. the split nose allows me to ride on the drop with slammed stem for longer than other saddles
@ysarn
@ysarn 5 ай бұрын
Use Selle Italia SLR XP (old version) and XLR (131mm width) which just work fine and have just the right amount of padding and give whilst still being supportive. Have used the more modern iterations of the SLR XP and find the different padding and shell quite painful. And then of course there were the gel saddles that everyone used to use, which were hard bits of torture for me. Designers of saddles forgot what you were taught at school that liquid (e.g. gel) does not compress. I have a bony behind.
@1RichieRich
@1RichieRich 5 ай бұрын
I've tried loads of saddles ,top ones that I've had is specialized toupe team & charge spoon
@lovemesomedetail
@lovemesomedetail 5 ай бұрын
I think specialized equipping the wider saddles to the smaller frame sizes is because they now offer those unisex frames/bikes and the chance of a woman buying a xxs to s size frame is more higher. and they tend to have wider hips than male riders. but I don’t know if wider hips automatically mean wider sitbones etc. etc.
@whitting54
@whitting54 5 ай бұрын
My current favorite? Selle Anatomica X. Like a broken in Brooks Pro without the break in period.
@TypeVertigo
@TypeVertigo 5 ай бұрын
Selle SMP Hell (Well) from 2015, and a Drakon from 2019. The Hell is my favorite saddle thus far, with a perfect shape for me, but let down by SMP's subpar materials. I've had it refurbished in leather from a local sneaker restorer, and now it's much more robust. The Drakon is more premium, but has taller sidewalls to the saddle frame, so it rides a bit stiffer than the Hell. Still a good saddle, but also ripe for refurb as the foam is starting to crumble.
@EmrysJones
@EmrysJones 5 ай бұрын
I have had sit bone issues since I started had a bike fit twice tried 15 saddles different bikes different shorts only time I don't get it if I wear bibs with winter leggings which also has a thin bib
@robs6750
@robs6750 5 ай бұрын
Pro Stealth in the wider width is the best saddle I’ve ever used. I own 4 of them now, on all my bikes
@Mikey-ns6nz
@Mikey-ns6nz 5 ай бұрын
Missed out on the Infinity. Much loved by Ultra endurance types and also people with "weavers bottom" (Bursitis on sit bone)
@kivriel2660
@kivriel2660 5 ай бұрын
I have Selle Italia Model X on 2 bikes. Very happy with it!
@michaeldoise8672
@michaeldoise8672 5 ай бұрын
The specialized Power Comp 143mm works well for me. Some chafing of the thighs but that usually goes away after a while. I've also had good rides on Fabric Scoop Shallow (now owned by Cannondale, I believe).
@kornenator
@kornenator 5 ай бұрын
After trying a few, now using the Ergon SM Comp
@fasdiablo
@fasdiablo 5 ай бұрын
I'd love to hear what you think of SQLab saddles. I started on an SQLab 611 in 140mm flavour it enabled me to do my 1st century ride 3 months ago, I bought a 612 for another bike and find its not as comfy as the 611,. but still, I've tried many saddles over the years and SQLab are now my 'go to' . . .
@berndberndson4494
@berndberndson4494 5 ай бұрын
Brooks B17 carved, is my favorite saddle. Made a 250 km Tour with my Gravel bike on it, without any problems...
@sepg5084
@sepg5084 5 ай бұрын
It depends on your riding position. Big saddles tend to be better for more upright riding positions while slimmer saddles tend to be better for more aggressive riding positions.
@frazergoodwin4945
@frazergoodwin4945 5 ай бұрын
Selle Italia SLR Boost gravel superflow S3 saddle user here - thank god I stopped using that Specialized Power when I changed my bike from a Diverge to a Checkpoint! Bonus - the blue colour it has goes with my Checkpoint frame colourway!
@frankmesh5280
@frankmesh5280 5 ай бұрын
What size were you running in your specialized power? I'm looking to switch away from my 143mm power saddle for something a little better for my gravel riding.
@frazergoodwin4945
@frazergoodwin4945 5 ай бұрын
@frankmesh5280 my Diverge is the 2020 Sport size 58 so it has the 155 size Power saddle. WAY too wide for skinny ass me!
@markbuhoveckey9903
@markbuhoveckey9903 5 ай бұрын
I have been having REALLY good luck with the NinetyK “The Cure”. It’s a wider saddle, which I need, but the sweep is less aggressive than the specialized power, so I don’t notice it digging into the backs of my thighs at all. I got some meat in my thighs, so that’s saying something!
@jonpoon3896
@jonpoon3896 5 ай бұрын
Ergon SR, specifically the pro version. Composite shell makes it flex a bit which is pretty comfortable for me
@michaelmechex
@michaelmechex 5 ай бұрын
Now that my bike fit is dialed in, I find I can get away with most saddles just fine. If I can set it up to get the pressure away from my perineum to the sit bones, it will work.
@caribbeancanuck872
@caribbeancanuck872 5 ай бұрын
I’ve used the Arione but the Open version, which I think it’s a newer design than the one shown. 130mm and 300mm long. I like I can sit back and forth anywhere on the saddle. Trying now an Aliante Tempo R5, 145mm, still like the Arione Open more.
@OldDavo1950
@OldDavo1950 5 ай бұрын
I find that the so called pressure relief channel is on the SI SLR is too wide. And gives me a saddle sore on the inside of edge of my Gluteus. I am skinny so I feel parts of me are rubbing against the edge of the channel. Also I am old and have always ridden Turbos or Concors, and still do. Just seem to suit my backside. Of the new ones I have tried none do it for me at all.
@mickingle
@mickingle 5 ай бұрын
I have a Selle Italia SLR and can confirm mine creaks a lot. However i love it.
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