Bike News Review - December 2024 Edition

[@BIGGIEsmalls13]

Great to see you can still read.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

No need to be rude to me - if you don’t like the video simply move on.

[@ivor1957]

@@TheMissendenFlyer You always get one don't you. I wonder what quality his/her videos look like

[@krancan25]

Not so great to see that you can still write.

[@aidebethune]

Appreciate all your efforts in 2024. Keep up the good work Andy and Mrs Flyer.

[@stalbansbiker]

I would not buy an expensive modern bike from anyone if I thought the warranty would not be avaliable due to the dealer network collapsing

[@arcticcraic]

Thanks for all the effort you’ve put into all the different types of videos this past year. For people like myself, they really do have a significantly positive impact, which you may not anticipate. The changes that you’ve made to the channel in the past couple of months have been all good, so the channel’s future looks great. Hopefully you can get some relief with your shoulder issue and enjoy the riding more in 2025.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I appreciate that! Thank you and Happy New Year!

[@martinwhitaker5332]

Enjoy your videos, down to earth straight forwards comments. Having not ridden a bike for a good number of years I decided to get one again for pleasure riding (not retired as yet) having shortlisted several bike options I decided on the Kawasaki Z650 RS, I found one at a Kawasaki dealer that was a one owner 2023 with only 235 miles that is in as new condition and best of all in my opinion in the retro green colour. Used to enjoy riding in the Yorkshire Dales as a teenager, and hopefully again. Being delivered shortly after it is serviced. Now hoping for some better weather so I can enjoy it .

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Congratulations and great choice!

[@snuffparrot]

Concur with the round of applause for the Hornet SP, TMF. Have a very soft spot for them after screaming an original era Hornet around the mountain passes for years. And a standing ovation for your good self for an exemplary 2024. Many thanks, and a very Happy New Year.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you very much!

[@scobeno1911]

The fact that the x adv is more expensive than the new hornet sp just doesn’t make sense.

[@motorcycle-man]

It makes very much sense actually. X-Adv is a A LOT more feature rich and every part that goes into it is specifically for that model. Contrary to the Hornet SP that actually shares a lot of parts with other models or are shelf parts so cost of production is relatively lower and the R&D has also been spent previously.

[@sergentcolon1]

@@motorcycle-manwhile that may be true, I’d take the Hornet any day over the X ADV and I think so will a lot of buyers.

[@Grahamvfr]

CB1000 Hornet, at last a sensibly priced bike, thats not trying to be anything other than a bloody good (fast) motorbike 😊

[@trevjones1315]

Hat's off to Honda but it's a bit shit that we have to celebrate a bike being under 10 grand.

[@stalbansbiker]

Happy Christmas to you Mrs Flyer and all your Subscribers and have a Fantastic New Year

[@ricatiman]

I read that Stefan Pierer has been leading a lifestyle of the rich and famous jetset community - flying around to Moto GP's and F1 races with a dozen strong entourage in his private jet. Living large and now firing and destroying employees lives - those same employees that provided his exorbitant lifestyle. We will likely see him at his Mobility corporation getting rid of KTM and another great bike maker is in ruins. Sad for the workers...

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes it’s the workers I feel most for…

[@roybatty2030]

He’ll be CEO of the phoenix company, KTM2, which rises from the ashes of the insolvency, in which the creditors will also be shafted.

[@0scartheCat]

When I was in China, architects there specified Italian tiles for a hotel/ department store, within 6 months the glaze on the tiles had worn off, after an investigation, they were proven to be be Chinese copies. The problem is there is a lot of parts in a bike, any fakes in the system would be a catastrophe.. 🇨🇳

[@davidmatthews3093]

Surely that would be true for all the Chinese components in European and American motorcycles as well. I thin’ you are clutching at straws.

[@m.f.m.67]

Far, far worse when you dig into Chinese fakes that make it into the aerospace industry. Small things like Mil. spec. hardware and other parts like turbine blades in a jet engines.

[@bradleyalexander5821]

The recent changes to the channel are greatly appreciated. Freshens up our experiences. Looking forward to 25. Cheers Andy & Carol.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Brad - pleased you like the changes...

[@8Jacob2]

Thanks for all the great reviews in 2024, I´m definitely back for more in 2025 ;) Happy new year to you as well as all fellow bikers around the globe..

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks, you too!

[@nimdalive]

For the live stream. The technology doesn’t mater, the guest don’t mater, or the phone in. Just get Mrs Flyer and a couple of glasses of wine on. Comedy gold every time.

[@ianhalliwell8604]

At a time when the Chinese and Honda are offering excellent bikes at a reasonable price the likes of BMW, Ducati and Triumph seem to be on the opposite track. Who will come out on top in 2025 and who will join KTM, now there's a thought.

[@SteveLawrance]

Happy New Year Dude, awesome channel, keep up the great work…..

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks, you too!

[@ianmott856]

It's a mad world that KTM are struggling to survive whilst Triumph and BMW announce hugely expensive retro bikes

[@richstevens5767]

Hi Andy. Thank You for all your hard work this Year & to Mrs Flyer as well for Her contributions. Hope You had a good Christmas & All the Very Best for 2025. Look forward to seeing what You get up to next Year 👍

[@stephensimms6637]

Great job with Bike News Andy. Love the entire channel. My go-to British bike channel on KZbin. Happy New Year to you and Carol. Have a crackin 2025.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you - same to you…..

[@tarmacscratcher]

I love "Bike News", please don't stop doing these. That Hornet is a bargain, Honda are literally giving them away. For context 30 years ago a 600 bandit was £4,400 brand new. It's a cheap as chips. 😊

[@PDCRed]

Literally? I know what you mean though. Certainly a groundbreaking price.

[@johnfoster7428]

My firm steers clear of Chinese equipment. We have had huge equipment failures due to low quality steel from which the components were made.

[@davidforsdike4343]

Same here. We try to ensure we don't buy Chinese steel. It is getting harder to ensure it does not originate from China.

[@BrianLesliePerry]

@@davidforsdike4343 You house must be devoid of White goods, Cameras, Phones, computers, TV, HiFi systems plus a myriad of other items currently made in China....

[@davidforsdike4343]

@BrianLesliePerry Will be a said day when you can only buy a chinese bike. Don't think that day is far away!

[@splodge57]

Wouldn't want a Chinese bike in my garage.

[@MrDeepseadweller]

I wouldn’t want to work in a high rise building made out of Chinese steel, but I have no hesitation buying a cfmoto 450MT. Don’t knock it until you try it.

[@krancan25]

Thank you for all the great videos this year! Looking forward to 2025! All the best to you and the misses.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Same to you!

[@peterturnbull9133]

Great year for you and Mrs Flyer. You and produced some excellent content this year and I always look out for the next program. I think you can be brave with the phone -in trial - you are with friends who want you to succeed, and will work with you to make it a success. You have already banked plenty of good-will so I'm sure your audience will work with you to help develop the phone-in programme.

[@JohnGadsby-mi7ui]

Personally glad you can still read - your potted MCNs are great & in fact as a consequence have taken out an MCN subscription, which is a bit more expensive over here. Well done & keep up the great work!!

[@smallam49]

Thank you for your contribution to my 'old age' enjoyment. Still biking after 56 years when the weather permits !

[@pauledwards1807]

Thanks for all the reviews in 2024 happy New Year to you and Mrs flyer . 2025 here we go again .

[@stuartkraven]

Happy new year to you and Mrs Flyer. Keep on going with the brilliant videos. Looking forward to more from you in '25.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Happy new year!

[@regbalmforth3121]

Really enjoyed all you videos this year, but particularly your Goldwing stuff, as I have one too. Would be really interested in how you have mounted your 360 camera on the left handlebar. You and Mrs Flyer have a great new year and here's to another year of splendind content.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

It’s just on a sticky camera mount and selfie stick

[@pricklypunter]

That BMW, talk about playing to an audience...nice to look at, but I think they need to go speak with Honda. It really is well past time manufacturers done something to bring biking back to where folks consider it as a first mode of transport rather than some luxury toy for weekend coffee runs. Ok, rant over, thanks for all the content this year bud, very enjoyable! All the best to you and your family for 2025 👍

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you and Happy New Year!

[@waynecameron4911]

100% agree that motorcycles need to be everyday transport and not just a play thing at a high price

[@Seymour_Cox]

I remember a time when a £7000 was considered on the expensive side, now it's considered a bargain!

Yep my gsxr1000 k8 was £7600 brand new with arrow cans included! Honda won’t be able to build the cb1000 hornet fast enough. I hope the other manufacturers realise their pricing is ridiculous and follow Honda.

[@Spikycloud]

I agree some bikes are too expensive but £7600 in 2008 is equivalent to £12,100 now due to inflation

[@Impulse5596]

The new Honda SP 1000, will change motorcycle sales in 2025, including the value of 2nd hand bikes. I just hope Yamaha will follow Honda's example quickly next year.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I hope so too - we need more of those types of bikes….

[@fyorbane]

@@TheMissendenFlyer Andy, I don't know if you are aware but Honda's new 1000 Hornet pricing has already had a positive effect. Kawasaki's new heavily updated Z900 [ I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE EVER TESTED ONE] has been re-priced similar to that of the new Honda. The Z900 does not make as much power but is more electronics laden with an IMU, cruise control and a host of advanced electronic gizmo's. So hopefully others will follow and maybe, just maybe we will get some new bikes at a more affordable price. Have a great new year and ride safe.

[@Boxer1250RT]

Like you said, $22K USD for the R12 is insane amount of Money for what it is. You can get a 2024 VW Jetta or 2024 Toyota Carolla for that price.

[@davestoeman9977]

All the very best Andy, looking forward to you 2025 reviews and travels. Stay cool.

[@garyshuttleworth3459]

many thanks for all your work this year, all the best for 2025

[@johnmacdonald1878]

Enjoy your monthly update. Hope KTM survive. For me right now, I wouldn't touch one with a 39 and a half foot pole.

[@liminal-m3g]

I like KTMs but the premature cam wear issue has really put me off.

[@chrispomphrett4283]

I've always felt that KTMs were bikes that other people rode.

[@zak_7354]

Look forward to the X-ADV review

[@faraway5828]

I think I'm changing to one of these

[@scottmitchell6371]

It's been an interesting year as far as bikes are concerned, not so much world events! 😬 I think next year will be even more interesting, hope better value bikes keep coming. Thanks for all your excellent input Andy, and happy new year mate. 🙂

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you and Happy New Year!

[@grahambex5829]

Andy and Mrs Flyer, thanks for all the videos about Bike roadtests and of course your epic motorcycle trips, , keep it up in the New Year. ( Your frank , unbiased and independent reviews of the bikes you test are a pleasure to watch, thanks). g

[@StephenClarke-l4s]

Happy New Year, Andy, to you and Mrs. Flyer when it comes. Thanks for entertaining and informing me throughout the past year on all things biking in Flyer World [ from everywhere you have been ] I dont know where you find the time ! Looking forward to your broadcasting next year. 👌

[@gra271]

It’s been a great years viewing and looking forward to 2025 Regards from Gra and Sandy, sunny North Devon and our beautiful beaches 🌞

[@martinturner9296]

Happy New year. Thanks for all your videos throughout another year. 👏👏

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Happy new year!

[@quentendawson81]

Thanks Andy, Happy New Year to you and Mrs Flyer!

[@redjacc7581]

11k for a scooter is just moronic.

[@paul5683]

Kinda like paying 60,000 dollars for a 4 wheel drive station wagon.

[@ticthedog6095]

Hope you had a great Christmas and 2025 smiles upon you and your family.

[@peterdane9138]

Best channel out there. I hope you and your family have a great New Year .

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you very much! Happy New Year!

[@78Outlaw]

Festive tidings Andy, best to you and Mrs Flyer, JB

[@gcrockford8191]

Nice work all year, may the next be as good!

[@123rtheo]

Thanks for all your hard work testing & reviewing the bikes throughout the year your videos are always top notch & very entertaining. Happy new year to you and Mrs Flyer. Best wishes Richard.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Happy new year!

[@marcheighton6436]

Thanks Andy. A happy new year to you and Mrs Flyer. Let's hope it's a good one all round 👍👍👍

[@Weaselworld]

Happy New Year buddy, thanks for a great year.

[@ProphetAndLoss]

Thanks for a very informative 2024, I have enjoyed your content and Mrs F's contributions as well. Here's to 2025, may it be good for you both and look forward to the new reviews.

[@johnstonstewart9683]

Regarding the 400 triumph, I agree totally, I'm the owner of a T120 along with other bikes and I have never felt the urge to ride either model of the 400. The look of it just left me cold ,I know I should ride one but it didn't fill me with that " I've got to try one of THOSE!" feeling. " Noddy bike" is an excellent description. The 450 royal Enfield does tempt........

[@laikatravels]

Cheers TMF. Best wishes for 2025 🍻

[@stitch3163]

Happy New Year, Andy. I hope that 2025 is a magnificent year for you and Carol.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Same to you!

[@davidgroat3625]

Hi Andy, the XDV does have under seat storage. All the best for 2025 🎉

[@patrickcolclough2423]

Why would anyone actually want 'hill-start control' and 'shift assist'? Has anyone ever struggled to move off on an incline or change gear?

[@stalbansbiker]

Yes

[@chrispomphrett4283]

No

[@mileskinnersley7426]

Hill Start is needed on a big Gs

[@chrispomphrett4283]

​@@mileskinnersley7426 Funny, I can manage all manner of bikes on and off road and I've never thought, "damn, I wish I could start on this hill".

[@chrisbike77]

Hi, Chris here from 🇨🇭. We're getting updates almost by the minute about KayTies problems and it looks like they've got solutions coming up and Pierer knows he's getting flack for his public image. The guy's got loads of money and will be using it , together with others, not-yet-known to save their 'Kid' . Happy New Year 🌅 and wishing you safe and enjoyable rides.Bless you and your bunch ✌🏻🌞

[@allanhegelund]

Yet again, an absolutely great video. I love them all, biker scram, test rides etc, but the Tour Videos are my favourite. Thank you very much for 2024 and looking forward to 2025. Wishing you and Carol a very happy new year🥂

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you and Happy New Year!

[@GMS-q8w]

Hi Andy, can you advise? I've purchased an Aocci £70 apple car play device for my 2013 BMW 1200GS LC TE (same as your's I think). I fitted an ezecam system some years ago for spot lights which work a treat. Can I fit a usb supply socket under the seat via the ezecam to power the aocci? Do you have a video? Brgds Greg

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Do t see why not!

[@clivehale397]

Thanks Andy for another great year....see you next year 😅

[@static369]

Not a fan of ktm but definitely don't want them closing down.

[@johnlenart597]

Not only did 2024 go fast, but I couldn't believe the 32 minutes had flown by. Looking forward to 2025 as it sounds like another well planned programing is coming our way. Hope your Christmas was fine and your New Years even better. 🌬🏍🏍

[@scotthunter9332]

Morning Andy alarm just went off. enjoying my 101 wild turkey coffee.😎🚬👍 PGH Pa🏍

[@ericmagnusson1990]

The most stunning BMW retro design was created several years ago by Ola Stengard and Roland Sands. The fact that 5:33 5:33 BMW decided to kill it and produce the T9 in its place was a real shame.

[@sanatandharma4435]

A really useful review Thank you! Have a great 2025

[@williamrae9954]

"X-ADV" "Good value" are 3 words that shouldn't be in the same sentence...best chunk of £3Grand over a Fireblade engined Hornet 1000...Happy Christmas!

[@motorcycle-man]

That is a bit of a weird comparison in reality.

[@williamrae9954]

@motorcycle-man Huge selling scooter should be far cheaper than a lesser selling full capacity motorcycle...less buyers available, unless you're cashing in?

[@siraff4461]

That R12s is bloomin gorgeous. I was about to call my dealer and drop a deposit until you said the price. Considering the standard bike starts under £12k you could buy one and take it to a shop to have it modified for considerably less. Its a shame because at ~£14k it would have me on the waiting list.

[@cymonalex]

Nice review Andy… really enjoyed the videos over 2024… Thanks and well done 👍

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks 👍

[@andyhorsfall9394]

i enjoyed that thanks andy, all the best for the new year.

[@robholloway5935]

Well done Andy, great content and really enjoy your trips with Mrs Flyer 😀 Happy New Year to you and Carol keep it coming 👍😁

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Happy new year!

[@FourIntoOne]

Agree on the black and gold colour schemes. Should be a mandatory for manufacturers to release bikes in this colourway👌

[@rosstinelli]

The microphone sound is absolutely perfect! Very bbc 4 radio quality ! All good lad 😊

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Much appreciated!

[@IanSixbikes-by6ei]

Have to say I remain optimistic that KTM will get through the current crisis and bounce back, I'm certainly confident enough to take a 'punt" and buy a KTM, in fact I've been online looking to see what deals and discounts are on offer ( haven't seen any super attractive deals yet) Love the look of the new BMW R12 S, what a beautiful bike, if I had the spare cash it would definitely be on my shopping list in 2025 .

[@jjnewman65]

Happy New Year Flyer. Looking forward to riding adventure in 2025

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Happy new year!

[@kramnam4716]

Thank you for all your fantastic work this year. Superb! 👏👏Happy 2025 !

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you! You too!

[@carlton683]

Happy new year Andy and the lovely Carole❤

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

...and to you....

[@leewatkeys9065]

Well done again Andy on a super video. Have a great 2025 and keep up with the fantastic content. Ride safe 👍🏻

[@jonathanwright9269]

Thanks for the MCN review..pls keep it going, finding it difficult to understand how honda make any money on the new hornet at that price when you compare it to the competition and the financial state of big bike producers. HNY Andy and Mrs Flyer. Looking fwd to the 2025 vids 👍😍

[@xanthe0189]

Happy new year to all the flyers🎉🎉

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

And to you....

[@Themotograndpa]

Another great bike review Andy keep up the great vids and tours with carol !! Happy new year to you both 👍

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks, you too!

[@henrysmith5604]

I think the only negative comment I’ve heard about the Hornet CB1000 is a bit of a snatchy throttle at times I’m interested in this bike can’t wait to road test it

[@duncanfoster4616]

Good edition. Thanks Happy New Year to you and the Mrs

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Happy new year!

[@oldfella4096]

Absolutely brilliant channel TMF, all the very best to you and Mrs Flyer for 2025 ,,, I will be keeping an eagle eye out for you when you come to do the Clover Leaf...

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you and Happy New Year!

[@NBMBC40]

Love the channel keep up the good work in 2025, Happy New Year.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks, you too!

[@clivelockwood3236]

I would disagree i dont think its a good time to buy a KTM when the factorys about to implode, especially being KTM you are going to need a good warenty.

[@michaelmclarney1994]

Hi Mr Flyer, I checked out the new speed twin at the bike show. I agree with you on the looks, it needs 2 clocks, and it's less comfortable for my arthritic body. I would go for the outgoing model and am not even interested in testing the new one!

[@iankirton368]

Thanks for all you’ve done for us all in 2024 wishing you the Mrs all the best for 2025 🍷🍰

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Same to you! (And thanks!)

[@GCTO239]

Buying a KTM right now? No freaking way! Quality is so bad, tons of issues, dealers will go out of business because they had to finance the bikes, warranty will be gone as well...even the craziest discount should not make anyone buy these shitboxes. Great video by the way, mate! Totally agree with you...especially concerning the Guerilla...I really like this bike. The Triumph on the other hand is like a bike for kids.

[@sergentcolon1]

Happy new year Andy, the retro BMW looks ok, but for that money I’d rather buy an original R90S, which is even better looking and far cheaper to run and easy to self service. For me Honda’s new Hornet is a breath of fresh air in these days of ever increasing price tags. On the Triumph 400 v RE Guerrilla, I’ve test ridden both and they are both great bikes, for me the RE is more of a hooligan machine which encourages you to ride faster in the same way that only the original Honda Hornet 600 I owned did . The Triumphs engine pulls better and smoother from lower revs while the Guerrilla needs to be revved more, not pulling as well from lower revs. You need to change gear a lot more on the Guerrilla than the Triumph. I found for me the Triumph to be more comfortable though both subject the rider to substantial wind blast at higher speeds, a small windscreen would be a necessity on both machines for me.

[@AllanCram-g4j]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Mate come to Australia this year free accommodation and bikes👍😎

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Happy new year!

[@stalbansbiker]

Andy you need to revisit the BMW R1300GS You dont need to dig into the menu for the major controls infact it has more direct buttons than any other BMW The burger button and up down buttons both have the ability to have functions assigned to them On mine the up down button controls heated grips and riders heated seat the burger button I have set to adjust the screen modes have their own button

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I lived with it for 6 months, I think I gave it a fair test ride! I shall be sticking with ol' faithful, love my GS.....

[@joeschmoe1301]

That BMW Cafe is drop dead gorgeous. But, $3000 too high!

[@John-cz2pe]

Morning Andy, fascinating review insight, once again. I must say I'm looking forward to you riding the Honda Hornet and I tip my hat to Honda for taking the fight to the Chinese bikes with this being priced under the 10 grand for the tricked up version. Personally,I think Triumph made a mistake with the new 800 sport, should have kept that under 10 grand too. Like you keep saying the Chinese bikes are here and really good value, it remains to be seen if that'll be the case ,as they nudge other manufacturers out , but I was quite interested in the 800 sport, but once it's price was announced as being over the 10 grand mark, it just put it past the justification bench mark of new toy for me. Thanks for all the effort you've put in over the last 12 months and looking forward "and boy do we need something to look forward too", the next twelve months. Happy new year to you bud and the ever lovely Mrs F 🎉

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you and Happy New Year!

[@frankhall401]

Chinese bikes won't become mainstream until they have as big and as comprehensive a dealer network as the established names. Buying a new bike is only half the picture. If you can't get it serviced and buy spares easily then buying one is a bad idea.

[@leeoflincoln7062]

You are absolutely right about China. I’m an engineer, I visit the country four or five times a year. In fact, most of my company’s sales are to Chinese and Asian customers. I visit many engineering companies across the region and can tell you firsthand, they are waaay ahead of anything I see in the West. Their quality is higher than ours, their productivity is better and they have an amazing entrepreneurial attitude. I would have no worries about buying Chinese motorcycles and, frankly, since most of my and my cooleagues’ incomes come from our sales to China I would consider it hypocritical for me to not do so just because of the machine’s origin.

[@bhencho5256]

They're not doing anything special just taking advantage of cheap labour

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for that Lee - those that think China is still somehow a developing country are deluded!

[@bhencho5256]

Name me 1 Chinese bike you actually want?

[@DEADSHOT55555]

Quality ☑️ Copied ☑️ Original ❎ Moral ❎

[@697544]

Yes, China is now capable of producing an acceptable bike that massively undercuts the Western manufacturers. Is that a good thing? Not if you consider the damage it will do….say goodbye to Ducati,BMW, Triumph, etc. They can do it because they’re not competing on a level playing field, being a communist economy etc. People brush off criticism of China by saying they’re not interested in the politics but they bloody well should be! China is out to dominate the world economy and will destroy anything in its way. It’s happening in plain sight e.g KTM and as usual we’re blindly ignoring the facts because we’re superficially saving money etc. In a very few years motorcycling will be gone as we know it. I wouldn’t buy a Chinese bike at any price! 😢

[@martythompson6509]

Agreed mate, that CB1k SP looks not only to be a fantastic bike, but also incredible value. I Think I'd like one.....

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You and me both!

[@Seymour_Cox]

I know everyone is raving over the new Hornet. I sat on one at the Motorcycle show and found it extremely uncomfortable. But I'm also 6ft4 with long legs. The Honda guy was very upset at my remark, he took it personally. Imagine that, someone not liking a bike!? Just not my thing, it might be a good bike, but the point of the matter is it all comes down to the individual. Regardless if the bike is technically fantastic, if it doesn't suit you, it doesn't suit yoy.

[@Norfolk_biker]

To start merry Christmas a happy New year on the discussion on the triumph 1200rs you should try the new standard 1200 as it's more like your bike riding position keep up all the good videos

[@ragerider6283]

Interesting episode as usual. Shame about KTM & I hope they stick around but I wouldn't dream of buying one in their current fragile state. With regard to the new CB1000, it's a curious one as in itself as a machine, there's nothing special about it. It's "just" an "average" Japanese 1000cc mid-pack naked. However, because of its incredible price it's a game changer that will hopefully force the industry to acknowledge we don't all want 20k 200bhp super computers on wheels. My point being, because there's nothing remarkable about the Honda's spec, ALL manufacturers should be able to build a comparative machine for a similar price or at least much cheaper than they currently do. Honda are a huge company & so can afford to slash their margins to the bone like no one else. Subsequently, I'm not sure anyone else can compete with them in the long run, but it'll be good to see the rest try!

[@richardsapper6167]

Andy HNY. As I watch this in the death zone between Christmas and New Year it has instilled a fear and dread in me, I am sitting on KTM 890 that I used to go to Morocco on in 2024 (I love the bike, it didn’t miss a beat)it was due to be changed in 2025 until the KTM news in Nov. The dread comes from what it’s worth to trade and the fear is that I am probably going to have to keep it. In normal circumstances if I could trade there are so many great bikes out there, love the idea of the new Hornet, the Kawasaki you have on test and maybe stepping into the Triumph stable. Just have to wait and see on the KTM front and hope a Phoenix rises from the ashes for the employees, dealerships and customers. We should know more when the 90 days is up, the numbers are eye watering.😢

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes I hadn’t thought of that!

[@stalbansbiker]

I like the look of the New Ducati Multistrada, but without shaftdrive I wouldn't considered it

[@JohnHandley-z8q]

I love my Multi 950S but just as you say TMF, too tall and top heavy, so the new one looks just the job. Not personally bothered about shaft drive but do see the attraction of it. Happy new year to all.

[@Avigazed]

Fantastic as always. I wish Royal Enfield would try harder to get their bikes' weights down. I like the Huntr, the Intercepter, and the Bear too, but those weights. 🤔 As for KTM, it wouldn't surprise me if there's a part purchase offer from a few other brands. Or maybe they're just too big. Either way. I've seen a few great deals already on brand new 790 Dukes for example. £6k

[@alantheloneranger]

At 181 kgs wet weight with 90% fuel, the Hunter 350 is a reasonably light bike for it's type. The Honda GB350S, which is almost identical to the Hunter comes in at 178 kgs but it doesn't have a centre stand or proper grab rails, which the Hunter does have. Fit them to the Honda and it would be slightly heavier than the Hunter so Royal Enfield have done well with the weight of the Hunter