Bike vs Moto - Who's Faster? Red Bull Hardline

[@RedBullBike]

This week is gonna be wild! Who's excited for Red Bull Hardline? 👋🔥

[@Mileslikesbikes366]

Gonna be sick

[@Zalan370]

I would definitely watch it if they will go with enduro bikes

[@TOPG4NTV]

IM EXCITED FOR THE WATER GAP!!!!!

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

Insanity. But yeah I'm excited 🎉

[@kelvinbarratt1316]

@RedBullBike new event we need more of this 🙌

[@Rerags_]

watching that run is peak anxiety

[@tbrowniscool]

It was incredible

[@RedBullBike]

full control!

[@sullenpuffin]

Go watch Matt Jones test the new river gap…

[@stfztg3623]

Gotta love it!

[@Xeil]

My hands were sweating for him. Doing mtb things on a full sized enduro bike is wild. i've done some big drops, but you usually have ample room to land.

[@luca_cometti]

That is a savage effort on a moto, the rear brake modulation that he has is crazy for someone using their foot through a boot.

[@rarelycomments]

Incredible braking, some of those turns were mental for a moto

[@LaurenceGough]

For sure I'd be all over the place, it's so hard using a rear brake on dirt bikes vs fingers for mountain bike!

[@dannyfar7989]

The boot isn't a problem, the soles are stiff and not really compressible. What is difficult however is modulating the brake with the foot you also use for steering with the pegs and balancing on them. You are shifting weight on that foot constantly whilst modulating the brakes, that is what makes it so difficult. See:, race car drivers. Especially rally do that modulation with their feet too. What they don't do is stand on and balance a vehicle with that foot at the same time.

[@zacharysmith7872]

@@dannyfar7989 using the rear brake while on a steep downhill is tough because your hips are way back and your left heel is dropped so it's a bit of a contortion on the lower body.

[@arthurkineard7356]

@@dannyfar7989 Modulating thru the boots you get used to. You will hear a chatter in the rear end right before locking it up. Walker is definitely on a different level than us mortals.

[@benanderson4639]

Getting a moto down at all is insane but watching the speeds he's hitting things at is equally insane.

[@adammitchell5229]

bet he can get back up alot quicker...

[@RedBullBike]

that's for sure

[@adammitchell5229]

@@RedBullBike did he do the new extended course or the same as last year?

[@RedBullBike]

@@adammitchell5229 watch the video and you'll see ;)

[@MrRoyalrobbins]

It’s easy to turn the throttle….

[@enzochoi923]

mountain bike lightness makes up there too. I don't think anyone is riding up the giant step down, but you'll save a hour on an MTB that you can actually carry. I don't wish ill on any riders, but that would make for an excruciating follow up challenge, and I'm legit not sure who would win if you had to pretty much take the course.

[@TOPG4NTV]

I LOVE JONO BEING THE COMMENTATOR. NATURAL TALENT THAT JONESY!

[@stevec9143]

He is indeed. Hes very relatable, not arrogant or confrontational, more like a mate you'd have a drink with

[@TOPG4NTV]

@@stevec9143 Agree!

[@thelittleewokboss9929]

I thought it was Matt at first they are identical lol

[@yota8325]

​@@thelittleewokboss9929 haha yes thats because they are identical twins. Mat is definitely abit louder than jono tho

[@RedBullBike]

natural talent 🔥

[@Traildude193]

That's sick was not thinking a dirt bike could make it down.

[@RedBullBike]

Jonny Walker* on a dirt bike can make it down 🤘

[@duroxkilo]

w/ the exception of the large drops there's a v good chance he could make it up too :)

[@shooter7a]

@@duroxkilo 100% . No chance he would not. That is an easy trail compared to what they ride...

[@ChuckyWright]

the level of skill this takes is nuts, being able to throw that bike around quick as he did in the fast sections was next level.

[@Rr-cr4qu]

it was so amazingly fast

[@supfly51]

Jonny Walker the nicest yet most underrated guy in hard and extreme enduro, glad he got some spotlight on something as mad as this!

[@Mezonator656]

Underrated? Wth u talking about 😂

[@KaiMolinaOfficial]

I’ve met him

[@maxmuller7431]

Ktm kickt hin 😂

[@Isaac804ab1]

Just finished the video i think johnny held his own really good would be sick to see more cross overs like this between moto and mountain biking as a fan of both

[@RedBullBike]

cheers man! 💪

[@Duncan23]

Give Jono the RB helmet already! He's brought so much to RB mtb content in the short time he's been involved

[@MrOby10]

Give him matts, much less of an arse

[@VerdantCrewRiders]

@@MrOby10 so true

[@davidwennberg8868]

@@MrOby10 why would Matt be an arse mate? Genuinely curious

[@BTRride]

Imagine if he had spent as much time practicing the course as the mountain bike pros have had to practice over the years. I’d imagine a few more runs and he’d crush that record! Amazing to be that close with just one day of filming and practice! Incredible run JW22! 😁👍👍🔥

[@brettolds5295]

It’d be great to see motocross riders Tomac and Jett ride. They’d probably go faster being used to bigger jumps.

[@gallaghergreen2053]

I would think that he would beat with practice, no question. But unless he switched to a lighter and more agile bike, he would hit a wall at one point. His skill is there, but the bike would stop improvement at a point.

[@wild_trail_flow]

@@brettolds5295 All top-level enduro guys can hit large jumps, but not all top-level MX racers are able to ride rocks and roots at a high pace. I would imagine that in this type of course hard enduro, enduro GP and GNCC riders would have an advantage over MX riders.

[@eve-llblyat2576]

the course is not open to ride offside the competition. the mountainbikers have 3 days practise with a few runs. It was Gildstones firsrt ever participation. So goldstone did nit had much more practise. if there would be a moto dh race the riders could figure out the perfect süeed and lines and bring down the time, probably to the range of the record time. it comes all down to the course. A MTB has to ride every corner and technical feature on the limit. A moto can do them save and be up to race speed in a blink without losing much time. Jumps are easy for moto. Its all about the course. Few small changes and eather mtb or moto could let the other eat dust. I bet a moto would beat a mtb on hardline tasmania easy. dont see that on most uci worldcup tracks.

[@BTRride]

@@eve-llblyat2576 you just said it yourself, the riders have 3 days each year to practice the course. That’s a fair bit of practice. Also, Johnny is fast, but far from the fastest enduro guy. He almost beat the fastest ever pro downhill guys time on that course, and on his first attempt. I do both sports, and I personally think moto is much harder. Also, jumping a mountain bike is much easier in my opinion than jumping a motor bike. Both incredible sports! Most moto guys are really good mountain bike riders as well, not visa versa. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@troygerencer1620]

That's gutsy . As a dirt bike rider , this is where you learn some respect for what mountain bike riders do 👍 they are a different breed 😁

[@oscar-013]

Thats so gnarly, mad respect.

[@BBKDRAGOON]

Walker is a legend, that was incredible

[@Eli_B117]

BBK!!

[@nosreffejforgot29]

Honestly got teared up a bit listening to Rob during the full run. So amazingly rad to all involved.

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

As a long time mountain biker I often fantasize about going down a DH track with a dirtbike, in practice doesn't seem all that fun 😅

[@ksnax]

No doubt. At 2/3 more weight, even my eMTB heft can be felt on more mundane trails. (But I don't mind it goin up!)

[@Howling-Mad-Murdock]

It’s nowhere near as much fun on a dirt bike. I’ve built a few dh tracks in my time and rode my 450 down one of them once, I was miles faster on the dh bike, on the enduro you’re constantly trying to get the thing slowed down. Probably didn’t help that having spent 6 months building the thing I really didn’t want to damage the track.

[@macchine.veloci.2]

Dirtbike most fun is where you can open up the throttle, so uphill and flat spots. Downhill not so much

[@MrSketchyCharacter]

Did way better than anticipated. That would be heinous on a moto.

[@RedBullBike]

crushed it 🔥

[@shooter7a]

I actually thought he would beat the 2:20. Guarantee with a few runs he could beat it....

[@kolt4d559]

Rob Warner has the best commentary

[@shaunfarley7087]

Literally as soon as Rob started I got hyped. Redbull need to take over the UCI worldcups again

[@schwuliantatutata7849]

Ben Cathro has joined the chat 😏

[@clipsdaily101]

i wish he would been quiet tbh. i wanted to hear the bike

[@quattro2004]

Now let’s see Pol Tarres do it on the T7! 😂

[@reghardtwiehman2346]

Yes please!😂

[@Andy_ATB]

Imagine that.......🤪

[@chipsnpeasifuplz]

Hell yeah 🙌

[@quattro2004]

@@Andy_ATB I would think that would be asking a little too much for the T7 suspension, no matter how tricked out.

[@drumerboy456sx]

Polygon T7?

[@IcalebthelionI]

Love seeing Jono in these Hardline videos. Such good energy

[@modernmountaineer]

Anybody thats rode dirtbikes on trails can appreciate how amazing he did at braking and turning at that speed. I would have panicked, locked up the brakes, and laid it over countless times going a fraction of his speed. That was scary fast

[@timothyleonardpugal2713]

This should be a thing now. Red Bull Hardline Motocross.

[@brettolds5295]

Great idea. Probably get a lot of viewers.

[@Iosis6]

They'd need to find another venue but I'm all about it. Dirtbikes would tear that track up in a single event!

[@ethanspilker7839]

Have you seen Red Bull Imagination? That's basically our version of hard line. Unbelievable gaps they find on that course.

[@yukiko_5051]

But then no one will cares about downhill mtb anymore lol

[@JD-oe5uc]

@@yukiko_5051why? I prefer MTB…much more interesting to see let not alone the awful sound of a two-stroke. I like to ride a dirt bike as a teenager, but prefer a MTB when I got older.

[@patrickk.2560]

Did redbull just create a new discipline? Motocross Downhill. What about a Motocross Rampage?

[@kdxkyle]

Eh. Dirt bikes don't need to go down a hill the whole time. So there's not really a reason to limit them to a downhill track like this. There's a lot of short format dirt bike races already. Like prequels to hard enduros and red bull strait rhythm

[@cupcup9514]

not me thinking it was matt this whole time lmao

[@nick_hill_shreds]

Fr me too😂

[@glaabaglooba]

Done it a bazillion times, early on I didnt even know there are two brothers. I think I have it figured out now... Maybe 😅

[@dirtbikedave9055]

Yep, the only thing that gave it away for me was he wasn't on a Marin.

[@emma_m0]

@@dirtbikedave9055and the fact it says Jono on the back of his jersey 😂

[@jiffy6867]

Hiw do you mix them up there voices are completely different and jono is heaps nerdy compared to matt

[@justinjames8889]

I'm lost for words respect to all

[@dougiebicker6458]

Fair play to Redbull for setting this up,unreal to watch and fair play to Jonny Walker for completing this track

[@Gamecraft1234]

your comment got stolen by a bot promoting an adult site and redbull commented on that, oof

[@SunlightMoose]

Great example of why 300cc 2strokes are the bike of choice for the hard enduro discipline. A 450 4stroke has so much more engine inertia that would make slowing down on those hills way harder and hitting those super tight turns much more difficult. The 2 stroke has less moving parts in the engine helping with tighter turning and maneuvers. JW is a legend and that Beta is on point! Bring on Erzberg!!

[@cliffsangelsphotography]

Now have a group of the MTBers try a Hard Enduro in Erzbergrodeo with Walker

[@ethanspilker7839]

This needs to happen.

[@Bonky-wonky]

Yeah let’s ride up 70 degree slopes on a dh bike🦾

[@arthurkineard7356]

@@Bonky-wonky Yea I think we call that hiking.

[@danjo1967]

dumbest comment of the day

[@Iseenoobpeoples]

I've been wondering about this for at least 10 years in my head thank you so much for trying it.

[@oscar4605]

Same!

[@skusey1231]

One of the best things I’ve watched for a long time! Reminds me of gee vs knighter back in the day at fort bill

[@alanmartinezrodriguez884]

This is gold content. My hands were sweating from beginning to end. Thank you RedBull and congrats Walker! That was awesome!!

[@dwiesch]

Wow... did not expect him to get anywhere near the top time considering this track is NOT build for this big of a bike. Absolute Legend definately, especially considern he had to pretty much guinea pig the entire Red Bull Hardline for Motorbikes. Insane that he even put in a podium time!

[@MD-uu5nt]

He probably gained 3-4 seconds on the last jumps alone. Can't underestimate the acceleration of an engine

[@nikonuv6434]

Yeah, insane. He probably gained like 10 seconds on that finish line acceleration alone. The track is not "build" for dh bikes either, its optimized to be hard.

[@NineteenEighty8]

I've always been a fan of RedBull. Since I was in HS and I'm 37 now. Such an awesome company that does so much for so many athletes . Thank you for all the support to the extreme sports communities! You guys should start building skateboard parks and BMX/MTB parks in smaller towns! Much love from STL.

[@rayvee482]

One run….and was 13 seconds off the fastest ever run. Not bad Johnny….!!! 💪🏼🏁 Moto RULES…!!

[@davidnowak]

That was absolutely insane! Mad props to Walker. Balls of steel!

[@SnakePilot16]

First of all that is mad impressive I've rode plenty of single track and hard enduro on dirt bikes and would never touch a MTB downhill track. With that said no way that with more practice and competition that they wouldn't smash the MTB record. If one top enduro rider with way less time on the course than the MTB competitors is already at podium pace I find it hard to believe that the dirt bikes aren't way quicker on the course.

[@nikonuv6434]

They do save a lot of time in all the accelerations of course. On every turn. Finish line acceleration alone probably saved him 10 seconds. I kept thinking how in earth MTBer can keep the speed if they ride faster than a moto.

[@SnakePilot16]

@@nikonuv6434 I imagine the MTB's are making their time at the top of the course in the tight flow sections through the woods. They don't lose time in the corners where the Johnny Walker had to slow with how tight the course is. Absolutely nuts how fast both sports are on this track but this pretty much puts to rest if MX/Hard Enduro riders are faster on the same course. If moto riders had the same amount of time on this course as the hardline guys we'd see a big gap in time.

[@neilr4867]

Yeah, that was achieved in a day. 10 seconds isn't much and the enduro guys would find it pretty quickly.

[@SnakePilot16]

@@neilr4867 Yeah that's pretty much how I see it also. The top hard enduro guys are crazy fast in tight and technical terrain. That 10 second gap would be gone in a few complete practice sessions.

[@adams402]

This was incredible and laid to rest a question I've had for many years.

[@oldsamsauce]

Jono doing a great job with the presenting, and that was a crazy run!

[@supermalevitality8532]

unreal corner speed and brake control wow

[@allmtbnzscottbrownhill2896]

That was an impressive run, bring on Enduro Moto Hardline series...... mixing the best of Hard Enduro riders, MX and Freeriders

[@-Tokay-]

Definitely more difficult riding an enduro bike through technical downhill terrain.

[@rerock826]

My palms are sweating and my stomach is queasy just watching that. Him saying "That was the scariest thing I've ever done" at the end, I believe, is a massive understatement compared to the fear a normie like me would have. His skill & courage is awe inspiring.

[@FreiluftJunky]

redbull rampage next ;) You guys are just awesome.

[@mtbboy3960]

Rampage might actually be easier because it’s mostly big impacts and not so much rocky tech

[@whataboutCvE]

Rampage uphill 💪😂

[@BandanaBoris]

absolutely nuts going down there on an enduro. That was far beyond any WEC level of difficulty, hats off.

[@JulianStämmler]

so stunned for Hardline🔥🔥

[@yukiko_5051]

You can totally see the destructive power of that bike lol

[@Jpwillia1]

Whats so impressive to me is that when the mtbers race it, they unlock the features as a group, dude had to do it all himself, best he could get is a tow in from a completely different vehicle. Good on him for working through that course alone!

[@samlamaritata17]

I love how Red Bull is always testing the limits of man. Well done

[@stephenp7708]

That was amazing. Would love to hear where he thinks he could have gone quicker.

[@NZWozza]

Great video, but hats off for going full production on this. Super slick video and great to watch.

[@DannyPopov]

I'd be curious to see how much time the top MTB guys have gotten to practice that run vs how much time Walker did.

[@Porch_Geese]

I’m glad you guys switched that valley gap for the road gap❤

[@petergriffin4629]

I think that he would even have a winning time in him, as he said it's crazy scary and the man o ly does this for promo, so he could for sure crank it more here and there. But also it's not worth thr risk in my opinion so fair play for him

[@Bjjmtb]

Wow, that was impressive! I can’t believe how smooth and fast he looked thru the tight tech section above the road gap. And the speed he had across the series of huge gaps with the lily in it was insane! Respect to this man!

[@C_R_O_M________]

The first blind drop reminded me of the bike jump with the Harley in Terminator 2. The difference is that this jump wasn't done with the bike suspended from multiple cranes like in the T2 movie! That's just gnarly and ballsy! Needed a Xanax afterwards.

[@aaronalp2639]

That’s a man that knows who to ride a motorbike. Hats off. Mad respect dude! 🫡

[@Stoxoz]

The fact that he could crack the top is amazing! I didn’t even think he would be anywhere close to the mountain bike times! I mean the steering angle and nimbleness and light weight of a mountain bike must be a huge advantage! He does it with all that extra weight! Amazing!

[@highoncash]

I broke out into a sweat watching that, so intense. Walker is a champ. Can you imagine if he could practice that a bunch?

[@nonamesthesame]

First run through he's almost at the time that competitors are posting after years of practice. On a track made for MTB. Legendary.

[@Lauragpht]

Give Jono the RB helmet already! He's brought so much to RB mtb content in the short time he's been involved

[@charliegarrison7578]

As many Red Bull vs videos I have seen (loved them all) this is my favorite. Great job Jono hosting and the crazy riding of Jonny.

[@frostbitepokin9520]

With Rob’s commentary

[@amalgam5107]

Jonny Walker is the man. All the hard endro guys are awesome to watch!

[@SCakey]

Damn that was a gnarly run, Walker showing some mad skills, beautiful to watch and the commentating during, perfect.

[@rubbersidedown5620]

This is epic! So great hearing Warner commentating.

[@kaidanjauod9584]

I could not be more impressed. My heart was in my throat through the entire video.

[@MyNameIsDraven]

Color me impressed! Coming from a MotoX background i didn't think he would get quite that close with how tight the course is and how MTB is more flow & obviously the way lighter bike. Great vid! :)

[@AntiDEDok]

No way! 😮 I was sure it's some clickbait title/setup until the very last moment when he really was on the timed starting point. It's purely insane he was able to do that in general, and it just freaks me out he jumped every section so clean after just a few times rolling to the lip. And his corners! Wow! He was nailing all the course! This dude is a legend! Huge respect! He just pushed bandaries in riding dirt bikes to the whole world with this line! 🎉

[@literallyanythingelseother]

Cool to see the comparison. Definitely did way better than I expected. With consistent practice could probably hit #1 I feel like

[@jasonharris3873]

That is a ruthless course. Props to him for riding it out on a dirt bike. Those smaller wheels are not a benefit on the chunky rock terrain.

[@cgbester1159]

The Dirtbike Community is PROUD of Johnny Walker ! 😁 +RESPECT I wonder if this will become a sport now, dirtbike downhill… 🤔

[@tonyboughman8050]

Love this. Walker seems like a great guy. I wish you had included all his trial runs at each feature. Is there an extended edit?

[@antonycole3266]

That was awesome to watch. Jono did a good job presenting.

[@BOOSTEDDUDE]

Wow! Super technical and gnarly! Can't believe he hit that course on a motorcycle. And his time was really good!

[@Hidden_Leafs7th]

Forever a RedBull fan! Thank you for years of mind blowing content!

[@ChristophSontheimer]

Jonny's skills are sick! Dude is an absolute menace.

[@Maybeknot666]

This is without a doubt the most gnarly thing I’ve seen! Should be an event!

[@iokarus]

Massive respect for that. To turn up on your own without the benefit of the competition and the other riders and still pull it off. I ride both and i thought he would be a full minute behind on that course. No doubt in my mind that if you got 5 of the hard enduro field there for a weekend they would smash that 2.20

[@debianowns4393]

To ride this fast after so little practice on the course is insane. Johnny is a different kind of rider!

[@hardendurobosnia17]

Gotta congratulate Jonny on doing this, risking it all on terrain for mtbs. And to be on the top 3, mental! Some wouldn't do it for any money

[@CapecodBodMod]

That was so freaking impressive 😮 I cant believe that people like this exist. The talent and balls to pull this off is out of this world. Respect!

[@leatippings7479]

WHAT A WATCH… Seriously how much practice runs did he get didn’t look many I reckon he could crush that time either way was amazing fair play!!!

[@Simon__Davies]

That was incredible. It looked so fast i thought he had easily done it but was 10 seconds down?? Madness. Goose bumps the whole time. Did you guys just invent a new sport? ❤️❤️🔥🔥

[@srr441]

Only at the bottom under gas. Super slow in the tech. Would be great to have seen the split timing.

[@macchine.veloci.2]

Being both and enduro rider and an mtb lover, that was pure NIRVANA!

[@Katherinecnwk]

Imagine if he had spent as much time practicing the course as the mountain bike pros have had to practice over the years. I’d imagine a few more runs and he’d crush that record! Amazing to be that close with just one day of filming and practice! Incredible run JW22!

[@guillaumesakiche]

At 4:28 Jono seems genuinely concern about Jonny, that's quite awesome to see. What a run!

[@savageferria505]

The skill to finesse a moto down that is incredible. Well done!!

[@Rahul_Rao_001]

I was scared for him at the final run this whole time but he pulled it of amazingly🔥🔥

[@Howling-Mad-Murdock]

Wow wow wow. Having done a lot of dh and a bit of enduro I’m beyond impressed. No idea how he was getting slowed down for some bits, and the speed he was hustling through the trees and tight bits. Just amazing.

[@ShawnCompton-fo8vo]

Absolutely amazing! I ride E-bike and dirt bikes so that was one of the best videos I’ve ever watched

[@GarrettMetzskate]

It's definitely dirt bike, Jackson has ran the course many times, Jonny ran a practice run then proceeded run top 3 with no Hardline experience at all.

[@swampfox899]

this needs to be a series for endouro riders

[@TheMrpunisher77]

WOW that was really impressive stuff. He did so well to control that bike on a MTB coarse, he def know a thing or two.

[@edwin.jansen]

I got flashbacks from Brendog's vid on his no-brake downhill challenge. Looked about the same as he plunged down from a standstill on his motorbike.

[@marshalltucker9690]

great work. the commentator for the full run was a nice touch.

[@davidrios4581]

The pov footage on the tech section looked crazy af. Props to Johnny and red-bull 🔥 🔥

[@DanielSerras1235]

I believe trail builders didn’t quite love the video

[@IsaacJohnston]

The coolest match up I’ve seen and great to see Johnny get his day. Insane athlete

[@TerminalDeceleration]

Clenched teeth, hands, and crack watching this. What a absolute unit!

[@HimanXK]

Its so insane to have that corner through the trees right after such a massive jump over the road. And then to pull that off on the dirt bike is crazy. Like with any lesser skilled rider, even if you could land that jump you could very well go flying off of the burm as soon as you touch down