Bike World Sportsbike Shootout 2017: Fireblade SP, R1, RSV4, S1000RR, 1299S, ZX-10R, R6 & GSX-R1000R

[@vl292]

This review has another level of professionalism and credibility compared to mcn. Good stuff.

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Cheers, we work hard on this one.

[@StickNclutch]

Bike World i wonder why the bike's headlights and mirrors weren't taped?

[@iceninja46]

It is pronounced Portimow not mayo... Professional???

[@graeme4130]

That depends who you speak to. Some of the locals pronounce it both ways

[@iceninja46]

Nope... Lived in the Algarve for 7 years and It Is Pronounced PORTIMOW Not Portimayo.... If they are speaking Portuguese it is Portimow.

[@pz5006]

Honda shift pattern: 1 N 2 N 3 N 4 N 5 N 6

[@mcprocrastinator7921]

You missed out the full on throttle issue (John McGuiness TT), where finding the false neutral would probably be a blessing!

[@kornboy22]

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[@darkchild4neverever]

I heard there's an R after 6th gear.

[@ukdnbmarsh]

fkin new Honda did that at the Isle of Man TT aswell

[@SuperbikeDiscovery]

Never had a false neutral on my sp1, been loving it so so much! Light and nimble as it gets. I dont see that false neutral happening for me

[@-DC-]

Test rode the gsxr1000r and wow, was absolutely blown away by just how good it was.

[@mcprocrastinator7921]

It's a petty the Gixxer is just not as pretty as the R1, Aprilia etc. But it is what it is I guess :") - in my eye of course.

[@MRBIGCOHONEZ]

David C Gsxr have shitty breaks. Fucking thrash.

[@camrlace]

thank you so much for this unbiased test!! I held off buying a new rsv4 rf last year because i was hoping the 2017 rf would be updated and I'm very glad i waited! will be picking up a new rf in the upcoming weeks! thanks again for the video guys it was different from the usual and i loved it!

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Cheers, lets us know how you get on with the new purchase.

[@camrlace]

will do. i own a carbon fibre business so will be all over it with carbon and titanium, ive also already ordered a set of bst carbon rims for it!

[@LambChopRides]

LOVED that Aprilia when I had it for a week, everything about it is amazing! The best Sportsbike end of

[@mcprocrastinator7921]

Thanks to your great vids mate, I bought my Aprilia due to all your feedback and information gained through your greatly put together reviews and rides - Ultimately Its great content producers like you, that give unbiased information that help the lamen like me in aiding our purchase, thanks Lamb.

[@Dan-vq1dr]

Hey mate fancy scrolling through the comment section and seeing you here Yup, the Aprilia is by far the most powerful and better handling bike out there. Your review confirms it; although you look like a giant on a pit bike on it LOL

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks matey appreciate that

[@Dan-vq1dr]

Well i didn't want to offend you Cheers!!

[@m109rocket]

Love the R1 handles and goes well I must say best bike on the road.

[@ssaran2]

The new GSXR1000r is just amazing and as per a lot of reviews that I have read and watched about it, it's the best performer Super sports motorcycle out there!! It's re-engineered from the ground up. Also it won the AMA championship again this year. (Again I agree the braking is not up to the par but it leads in all the other fronts.)

[@Night_Diver81]

i don't know why lap times alone would decide the winner. First off that would put the R6 out of contention before the test even starts... and also... this is Sportbikes shootout... not race bikes shootout... people will ride these for fun and enjoyment as well.

[@fastbikes]

Hi Ian, it didn't per se, however the Aprilia has less flaws than the other two which led to a faster laptime, namely the brakes on both the Yamaha and Suzuki let them down and prevented them going faster. SBOTY is about what is the very best sportsbike dynamically, smaller capacity machines have won in the past, our usual tests take all aspects into account, but SBOTY is an annual, one-off, what's the very best machine on the planet.

[@Night_Diver81]

Fast Bikes Magazine I appreciate the reply!! (and besides.... your not wrong... with the Updated dash... the up and down quickshifter... the RSV4 is the one i would buy...... if could afford it... .... wich i can't... so I'll settle for the R6)

[@iceninja46]

If the brakes let them down, why are they in 2nd and 3rd? Brakes are a bit part of a bike, I don't understand the logic! Good vid though :)

[@fastbikes]

Because they are so good everywhere else! The BMW also has brake fade issues as well, which was 4th in the test. You can work with this a little, and most of them can be cured by a decent set of pads. But at the same time, it shows the difference between really good brakes, and where manufacturers have tried to save money (which saves it for the consumer somewhat), by not putting the best on their top-spec models too.

[@UnHoLyHooLiGaN]

Ian Enciso you cant measure fun and enjoyment

[@mcprocrastinator7921]

Great video, I'm so glad I bought an Aprilia (Tuono Factory). This proves that a small company can take on the world and go on to produce not only a quality product, but a great race bike. Great video guys!

[@mr02gixxer1000]

The GSXR 1000 for me, I will never own anything else.

[@pags1981]

Production quality and cinematography is top notch, thanks BW + FB 😜

[@sportbikejesus]

Only 2 sources of reliable sportbike reviews on KZbin and this is one. Been looking forward to this all year

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Cheers Jesus!

[@mcprocrastinator7921]

curious, whos other MCN, I enjoy there stuff (Although was disappointing on the HONDA Win)

[@redryder1146]

MCProcrastinator well at least the MCN test was more complete than this one they Road them on the street also

[@mcprocrastinator7921]

Scott Rosenboom hey scott, you get the feeling they just picked it because its be long overdue. they said numerous times it did not really stick out, or blow them away but they added up the overall feedback, it wins (every piece of this was not convincing), i guess it was the most underwelming win ive ever seen, and for me as i said, it just seemed they picked it because the cbr has just been out of it for so long. in my view anyway.

[@redryder1146]

MCProcrastinator yeah I understand where you're coming from but this test here I wish they would have tested them on the street also because in my opinion it's kind of an incomplete test just testing them on the track because these bikes 80 to 90% of their time is going to be spent on the street anyway in my opinion

[@danielstevens3132]

Finally a review I can agree with! Thank Christ, someone knows how to do an objective review!!!!!! MCN kills me ranking that freakin Ducati sooo freakin high every year with the added clause that's it's the most difficult bike to ride in the world!!! Jesus!!! Fagan loves the Aprillia we all know that but I think he try's to be as unbiased as possible, he loves the Ducati too but he ranks it fairly!! ANY review that doesn't have the R1 in the top three, is ran by guys who can't ride!

[@arcsolomon6360]

MCN and motorcyclenews.com got the fireblade winner....butt hurts eh?

[@danielstevens3132]

Arc Solomon Nope! Actually I have absolutely nothing against the Honda, lmao! Does your "ass"umption hurt now?? lmao, what I do have a problem with is subjective testing!!! 2015 R1 ranked #1 by MCN 2016 its ranked #2 with no change to the bike that beat it, none, 2017 its ranked 4th again with absolutely no changes at all to two of the bikes that beat it??? Need I say more, now if that's not subjective testing I don't know what is! Motorcycle.com is even worse, everything they seem to do is based on how they feel on the day, lol!

[@fastbikes]

Actually, it was 5th...

[@danielstevens3132]

Fast Bikes Magazine No for 2017 it was 4th by MCN Honda, Ducati, BMW, Yamaha, 5th was the GSXR. LOL go figure???

[@fastbikes]

Ah okay, to be honest we didn't pay much attention past scratching our heads as to how the Honda took their test. We know the MCN testers, they're good guys, even if we couldn't quite figure out their reasoning!

[@MKM4ever]

Good review, BUT Don't understand why MV Agusta is not included in the test!?

[@fastbikes]

They were supposed to be, but pulled out just a few days before. We were gutted!

[@noisyboy87]

As someone trying to start their own KZbin bike review channel, I really loved the editing, music and feel of this review. I love MCN and they deliver great content but I feel their videos are in need of a bit of modern updating compared to some of the other channels I subscribe to here. They are great guys and do a fab job but this was just what I wanted from a bike review! Could have done with 0-60, quarter mile, BHP figures and top speed tests but still a great vid 👍🏻 well done guys.... 👌🏻

[@cbrad6002013]

I think these tests are great only for the simple fact that if you look at other tests .. you will find that the top 3 bikes of this video didn't even make to top 5 in others .. so as a buyer .. it can be a bit confusing looking at tests after test ..soooo as an everyday sport bike rider your best to just buy a bike that looks the most beautiful in your eyes :)

[@faiezsuhaimi4193]

This vid really makes me happy...since FB mag has stopped their publication early this year in my country...delighted with the comeback of the Gixxer!

[@fastbikes]

You can always get our digital version!

[@faiezsuhaimi4193]

will do..doesnt know that before, dammit

[@fastbikes]

www.classicmagazines.co.uk/issue/View/issue/FB329/issue-329-summer-17

[@TheDriversPerspective]

I feel like I've been missing out on some quality content. Really like the way you guys structured and presented this one!

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Cheers

[@anthonymalfino1]

Ahhhhhh. A great vid from the boys at FastBikes. Used to love the centerfolds. Alas times have changed have they not.

[@carswithsonduren]

Honda really needs to fix this false neutral problem asap or it will destroy their reputation.

[@midamultitool1387]

Canadian Rider CBR gave false neutral problem?? Thanks for letting me know. Made my choice much easier... BMW it is :)

[@slimmRR]

Hope you didnt make your decision based off this youtube comment. Especially since that issue wasnt really an issue. Would hate it if you missed on the best bike of 2017 for nothing

[@aisu8481]

My daytona had a false neutral problem for a little while.. figured out it just didn't like the oil I was running. Now its perfect

[@m.geisel]

Shitty transmissions are just a Honda thing. My dad had a CB1100F back in 1983 and he said that to this day it had the worst transmission he's ever had.

[@bananamanstrikesback5553]

mystic1754 uhhhh wow dude consumer reports differ

[@Birky_41]

Great review guys. Loving my Aprilia 👌

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Thanks

[@mcprocrastinator7921]

Ditto mate, (Aprilia Tuono Factory) - Importantly it was nice to see that Aprilia, year on, year out, maintain their consistency in the rankings due to their continued improvement, nothing beats them in my mind, such an amazing bike!

[@SuperbikeDiscovery]

So much hate for the CBR SP1 I dont get it.. it's such an amazing bike so Nimble and super light the torque is awesome the whole sensation of riding the bike is like flying I totally love it love it love it by the way never had one false neutral

[@TheDucatiPilot]

Amazing video guys! Great and professional editing. I'm actually pretty surprised the S1000RR and 1299S didn't do well in the testing. Keep up the top notch work!

[@fastbikes]

Beemer came a very close 4th! 1299 is awesome, just a bit of a handful!

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

FirebladePilot thanks

[@TheDucatiPilot]

Fast Bikes Magazine Great to hear about the beemer. I can't stand the way the huge catalytic converter looks on the new model. I added a TaylorMade exhaust to my 2014 S1k to clean it up. You guys rock!

[@TheDucatiPilot]

Bike World You're welcome! Going to promote your Channel on my KZbin and IG! 😎🤙 Aloha!

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Cheers

[@JaretCampisi]

Overall I enjoyed it. Would have been nice to see 0 to 60 times, quarter mile times, tops speed, horsepower figures, lap times etc. Also hard for me to understand how the panigale isn't in the top three but I'm not a racer so I guess I'll have to trust you guys. haha

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Jaret Campisi we have another vid we'll be loading with more details, this was the TV show so tight on time.

[@JaretCampisi]

ahhh that makes sense. Thanks for the response and keep those bike vids coming!

[@fastbikes]

Go on to our KZbin channel and you'll find all the dyno runs, plus a little chat about each, for all the bikes.

[@JaretCampisi]

Oh nice I'm going to check out your channel now thanks!

[@cagednm69]

be warned that his channel discusses which bike is best based on dyno graphs alone. Doesn't take into account the power to weight ratios since the bike is stationary. Its what kids do these days, spec sheet analysis while in the real world the bikes are a whole lot different than what the numbers suggest :D

[@matthewinsydneyful]

Ducati moving to a V4 engine for next generation super bike is a must for future engineering

[@sahidulalam8511]

Loved the YAMAHA R1M... Its the most futuristic bike in looks and handling is just awesome

[@TonyBiggs_]

Why no love for MV Agusta?

[@mprziv]

I like that Jason Statham looking gentleman.

[@Juuul89]

Fagan is awesome, you should follow 44Teeth

[@mprziv]

To be fair, EVERYONE should follow 44Teeth. Their content is loads of fun.

[@mcprocrastinator7921]

agree him and baron von grumble are awesome.

[@pablononpicasso1977]

Stratham could not drink as many pints...or G&T's in a month of Sunday's as Lord Al can. I seen wiv me own eyes I 'ave. Bonza bloke and knows bikes.

[@fantomas3030]

@Julian Lankhorst I fully agree BUT the problem is that Fagan ain't alone in the show... I prefered BVG when he talked ONLY about bikes. That why I subbed at the beginning. Then he mixed all the political sh*t in his vlogs and I unsubbed. When he's full on bikes, I really enjoy watching his videos. Otherwise, I'll stick to Bike World, MCN, Bike Show and the likes. When it comes to 44Teeth, the Superleggera vid was like a remix of MCN World's 1st ride on the 2017 Superleggera. What a disappointment.

[@samo2253]

fantastic lads, loved it !!

[@fastbikes]

Thanks Samo, Bike World did a great job!

[@slpknt4ever]

Soundtrack pls i can't find it from description

[@daxair644]

I would love to see the MV F4 RC in one of these tests

[@fastbikes]

MV pulled out a few days before.

[@corngrohlio]

When will Jason Statham ever create a bike channel?? JK, love you Fagan and 44Teeth.

[@roadbypass]

Great video guys. What piece of music did you use for the first half during those slo-mo shots? Thanks!

[@vasanttes287]

Excelent review and shootout Again R1M is in the top of best Superbikes! I wondering what happened with the zx10rr???

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Thanks, check out part 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoKZfnueh8t6jZo

[@gnarshread]

Great video. Can't get over Alestar's glam rock leathers though. Those are rad!

[@fastbikes]

Ha!

[@findingneutral426]

Nice work guys can see a lot of work went in to this and it shows! I'm a 1299 owner and interestingly out of what's out the only other bike I'd possibly consider would be the rsv4. I genuinely think the Beamer is probably the best all round road bike but I'd just be gutted every time I opened the garage door and it wasn't a beautiful Italian I think.

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Cheers Mr Finding

[@caged2151]

Finding Neutral you should just pickup a cbr. It'll find neutral for you

[@abymathew295]

But when you guys pick the best superbike of the year you should have tested it on the streets too.....coz most of the riders won't even hit the tracks....

[@fastbikes]

We do road tests all year long, this is SBOTY, it's different.

[@abymathew295]

Fast Bikes Magazine,thanks for your rply mate....but which is the best street bike in this group....

[@fastbikes]

We recently did a test between the RSV4 RF, ZX-10RR, BMW S 1000 RR and GSX-R1000R. The GSX-R won that test, a road based test, but it was very close with the BMW. The Aprilia we had, however, was poorly as it had come straight from another test with another outfit, they'd blown the clutch doing race starts and speed testing, and didn't tell anyone. So how the fully fit Apriia would have fared remains to be seen. That being said, we've been touring on the previous RF, and ridden one through all of winter and it was fab. But the Suzuki is an excellent road hack.

[@RudraxT]

Fast bike magazine,when you will upload a video of that test

[@fastbikes]

We won't, print only, that appeared in the magazine two issues ago. You can find print and digital editions of that here classicmagazines.co.uk/issue/View/issue/FB328 if you're interested

[@alex31721able]

didn't know Fagan did this, he is like a motorcycle Easter egg, he does something in nearly all aspects of the sport or journalism

[@fastbikes]

Been working for Fast BIkes since 2007!

[@TheDyl88]

Honda again almost killing a rider with FALSE NEUTRALS. ask Guy Martin! RECALL THE NEW FIREBLADE! I REPEAT RECALL THE NEW FIREBLADE too many "false neutrals"

[@simontemplecombe5380]

Dylan Colenutt What about the throttle sticking open twice on J McG????

[@TheDyl88]

Simon Templecombe didnt know that! Thanks mate!

[@cagednm69]

Guy Martin was a bellend who shouldn't ride motorcycles any more. Granny shifting is what caused his crash. Same FIreblade's are racing in BSB and double podiumed at Snetterton this last weekend. Jason beat a bunch of Ducatis, R1s, Kawasakis and Suzuki with MotoGP rider Guintoli on it to the podium comfortably.

[@uscarp5325]

cagednm69 like you could ride any faster than him

[@Samuel-qe9lj]

cagednm69 I agree

[@anooshmokhtarian2036]

Absolutely love the music anybody can send me a link!!

[@saltandoalvacio5736]

Where are the time laps? Where is the comments about the bikes out of the top3? BMW, Panigale, Kawa? Good video anyway, but incomplete for all the research that was made... Please, share more info :D

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Hey, check the full description, you'll see the link to part 2. Cheers

[@saltandoalvacio5736]

Yeap... I am sorry. Didn't see it before. A fantastic complete video with the second part. But I would love to see the best time with both tires! Thank you so much for answer. Best regards from Vietnam!

[@Seanype]

Are any of these beautiful bikes worth getting if you don’t do track days ?

[@danjankens8939]

Great video and a great winnerbike, The intro and background music got under my skin... Name of artist/song? Thanks!

[@GIGABACHI]

GREAT WORK, Guys !

[@fastbikes]

Cheers dude, Bike World did a great job.

[@ApriliaRacer14]

False Neutral brought to you by Honda.....

[@RudraxT]

lol

[@Real_MisterSir]

When you expect Vtec to kick in, but you get a false neutral instead XD

[@quantumpeep866]

douche

[@ApriliaRacer14]

Darryl Chrenek Lol...HRC fanboy. You’ve been wanting Honda to be competitive for like 20 years...lol.

[@SuperbikeDiscovery]

Never had this issue with my sp1. I don't understand why the negatives. Its such a good bike!

[@deadeyenic6833]

do a 600 sport bike shootout

[@stevehash158]

Good fookin test on a REAL track.. I was hoping for all bikes lap times and power figure (for fun) but hey you gotta sell those mags lol.. Brilliant stuff guys just brilliant..

[@fastbikes]

True dat, without mag sales there would be no SBOTY, nor food on our tables etc!

[@Xerdoz]

Two best bikes were the two best bikes.

[@VeeFour]

good job, and better than the MCN shootout with their very very suspect Fireblade outcome

[@cagednm69]

says a butthurt Aprilia fanboy lmao

[@seanstevens-ds5fk]

Suspect until you accept that it's a great road bike over the others and they didn't base their test just on a lap time?!

[@VeeFour]

I'm not butt hurt at all, and I ride an R1. I've always been a big fan of the Blade and enjoyed a rollockingly good time on one at Ron Haslam's school, and I'm sure that it's a superb bike in isolation. My suspicions over MCN's test, relates to the actual video and the way the bike was presented through out. There seemed to be a lot of "it's great but....." type of comments from the riders and Micheal Neeves' final summation and announcement, seemed somewhat reserved, and his tone didn't feel like it matched what he was saying. The subsequent rollout year issues that are cropping up (as they do with all new models, The R1 gearbox one such example) continue to fuel my own suspicions, that the winner was a foregone conclusion before even a wheel was turned (for what ever reason). Micheal Neeves himself felt it necessary to reassure me of the objective nature of the test on another social media platform, but my suspicions remain. If I was the kind of person to get 'butt hurt' over a motorbike shootout video, then I'd be raging that the R1 didn't win, but I'm not so my butt remains pain free in my boxers

[@VeeFour]

sean stevens8866 but MCN did base their results on lap times, I can copy you the exact response that Micheal Neeves replied to me in person regarding this very topic

[@fastbikes]

Didn't they do it at Rockingham? Is that right? If so the Blade probably did feel good there, small short track and they were able to make the full use of the engine as it makes a lot less power, and it is fun to rinse. That may explain some it, but not all!

[@ahaa88]

This is a review i would like to agree. Although I might never have the pleasure of riding big bikes, I have ridden a few small bikes and Honda gearbox problem caught my attention. Honda's smaller cbrs too have gearbox problems. I have not hit false neutrals but the gearbox was hesitant to shift down on aggressive inputs. Seems some traits, good or bad, are characteristic to manufacturers irrespective of the model range. Like Yamaha's average brakes or Suzuki's grunty engines.

[@blackbean8465]

Hidden gem this one

[@Miguelito0oO]

Good job guys! I trust your opinion more than MCN's

[@johna6968]

I enjoyed being along for the ride too..

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Cheers Jay!

[@jonathanbsm]

Anwsome introducing video.

[@freaknbigpanda]

forgot the zx 10r mention at the beginning of video

[@geforce5591]

Loved the banter in the review. Best review I've watched all year and in a long time.

[@stephenmwyatt2]

They made a Street Legal RC213V-S for 2016 - for $184,000. It had the valves and the whole deal. I think they sold 66 of them.

[@browie316]

Great review guys! If price,reliability and distance to stealerships was not an issue, I would have looked hard at buying an Aprillia instead of Yamaha.

[@fastbikes]

The reliability thing is a bit of an old wives tale now, there are dealers in the UK offering lifetime guarantees on Aprilia metal to try and combat this old pub chat. The reason they do this is exactly because of the low rate of issues that have happened in recent years - basically, no more or less than most other manufacturers in a sales-issues percentage, so they feel safe enough to put the money where their mouths are, so to speak. In our own testing experience, the only issue we've had with an Aprilia in nearly ten years is a dodgy rear shock (a third party Ohlins item Aprilia obviously don't produce themselves), and even then the bike still finished 3rd because it's that good! We've actually had far more issues with other Japanese bikes over that same time frame funny enough. That being said, either the RSV or the Yammy is amazing, that's a win-win choice!

[@browie316]

Fair call guys. Thanks for the reply. 👍🏽

[@tyson1ize]

was the zx10rr even tested here, not one mention? or was it overlooked, shame due to what it's doing in wsbk for the last 5 years.

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Part 2 here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoKZfnueh8t6jZo

[@sembiant9038]

guys need middle weight shootout 959 r6 gsx etc

[@ChannelTrooper]

Make a 600cc super sport shootout

[@codenamesasu]

not even a word on the r6 ...it was part of the test as well!

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

We've got a Sportbike Of The Year Extra coming with more details on the other bikes in the test.

[@chrispritch]

I personally bloody loved it!! Needs a pipe on it and the rear shock was horrendously soft but it was so fun to ride!!!

[@vinaykulkarni2792]

sasu22 then what about panigale?

[@iwasadeum]

Missed the Kawasaki in the introduction of the bikes... I was about to be upset, even though I'm not really a Kawasaki fan. I was very unsatisfied with MCM's liter bike shootout. They didn't justify hardly anything they said. Looking forward to this review!

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Yep, not sure what happened with that.

[@abymathew295]

The best big bike comparison review of this year...great work guys.....

[@favian3380]

Team GSX-R💪

[@raptor1623]

finally a review which got me so much involved that i forgot been watchin it from last 25mins in comparison to other reviews on youtube which are full of boring content. loved it guys!! and espcly dat song..tune or whatever u col it @39sec played throughout the video made video more enjoyable big thumbs up!! keep up the good work.

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.

[@hanestetico]

Nice video bu t where are the mv agusta f4 or bimota bb3?

[@juicer404]

how come the aprila never seems to be at the front in bsb yet wins sboty most years, why arent teams using it

[@jcmm164]

Loved the video, for real....but i would love the see one test of the base models,maybe they are a bit street use.

[@fastbikes]

That's coming!

[@JADDEPRODUCTION]

Can anyone please , tell me the name of the track at 0:45 . Fuckin Soundhound and Shazam are worthless :( Thx !

[@gatorgreg1565]

Great video! With the success of Aprilia's RSV4 in all the recent shootouts maybe Honda will finally give us a V4 liter class sportbike, especially since Ducati is also about to unleash their own V4 for the road. Yes they gave us the RC213V-S but it cost $184,000 LOL. I love my VFR800 but it's more of a sport-tourer than full on sportbike - it would be nice to have an extra 50 horsepower :-)

[@fastbikes]

Here's hoping!

[@gavinodey2112]

There's nothing wrong with any of them. All amazing machines.

[@spoonman73]

Thank you for the objective test guys. Love your magazine and this channel. Being objective is very important. But, I feel that your subjective opinions are just as important. Things like, which is your favorite and why? Which one is the most comfortable, most fun to ride, which one FEELS the fastest, most intuitive, etc. These things are important to an everyday rider otherwise I would just base my purchase decision on looking at the numbers. Would be nice if you could elaborate more on the esoteric side of things as well.

[@fastbikes]

Hi Spoonman, our usual regular tests take everything into account, road, track, price, living with etc. But this is SBOTY, and that's different!

[@redryder1146]

a false neutral does not surprise me I'm sure all of those motorcycles have been hammered on by Moto journalist

[@cnealmartin]

Same thing happened to Guy Martin at the TT. Dame near could have killed him. That Honda is flawed. Big time

[@davec6518]

The gsxr in the black and blue is smoking hot.

[@philb.8660]

Why isnt BMW HP4 on the list, i mean other bikes are all on the high end race specs, but why choose the S1000rr over the HP4 ?

[@viktorskarlatov8227]

You guys should be honored to have Jason Statham riding with you. You can see his handsome smile at 5:10 Elephant door

[@MOTOPILOT6]

Ugh, I hate to bash hard work, but this video could have been SO much better. I only liked the professional footage edits and that the Aprilia won. So much information lacking about each bike. No distinctive intro leading into each bike test. People watch these types of video's for "information". This Shootout lacked in that department for my taste. Plus a majority of us don't really base our choice of bike strictly on lap times. REAL WORLD is where we ride. Also testers offering opinions of "bike styling" accounts for nothing. We all have differing tastes.

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Hey, understand what you're saying. We do say at the beginning on the video that it's a behind the scenes look at what goes on at one of these group tests. This is primarily produced as a TV show to broadcast across Europe, the detailed information doesn't work very well. Also, this test was for the Fast Bikes magazine where you'll find all of the details. (Not a plug for the mag) Thanks for the positive feedback on the footage and editing.

[@MOTOPILOT6]

Thanks for the reply, guys.

[@zeckywd6116]

Gsxr1000 👍👍👍

[@MotoM1234]

I like the gxxer but how can it be 2nd with bad brakes? Last one I rode was 2013 and it was insanely fast. Felt much more powerful than the r1 in back to back (short test) ride and more comfortable riding position. R1 felt glued to the road though.

[@ChrisJohn_444]

Nice to see Al back on some proper bikes. About the Suzuki, I just don't understand why they'd come with a full update and not re-do the brakes. Having said that I'm not surprised by the top three (the S1000RR is overdue for its own form of an update), but it's nice to have my opinion backed by sharp-edged, seasoned riders. #teamstatham

[@fredthebarber]

Hey guys, great video! This was fun and informative to watch. As a relative newcomer to both riding and watching MotoGP, I'm wondering if you can explain the disparity between the reviews that these production bikes get (and seem to deserve), and their racing team specific bikes performances in MotoGP. I understand that world class riders can make a difference, but that much? Aprillia bikes have been lucky to finish a race this year, BMW doesn't even bother competing, Suzuki have had few high placing finishes, and the podium has been dominated by Honda (whose bike you kinda described as "meh"), Ducati (who didn't even rate a discussion in this video, but got some nice wheelie shots), and Yamaha. Also: ELEPHANT DOOR!!!

[@fastbikes]

Generally most reviews tend to run along similar lines and results, or very close to it. Only one place, for example, held the Honda up as the best - whereas almost every other one hasn't. So you do now and then get results out of kilter with everyone else. You really cannot compare racing success and production bikes though, be that BSB, WSB and certainly not MotoGP (as it's a prototype series). Maybe perhaps Superstock series bear some relation to how bikes stack up out of the crate, a bit, but racing is otherwise a completely different kettle of fish. Example - out of the crate a Kawasaki ZX-10RR is a stonking weapon, but it's not as good as at least five other bikes on the showroom floors. In racing though, the ZX is a beast, winning three out of the last four WSB titles, dozens of Superstock titles over the world, and doing bloody well in BSB and other national racing series. A huge well done to them for that, in racing trim she's a diamond - but that doesn't stop it from being a little behind the rest when the lights and indicators are on...

[@UKUAPGUY]

It will be cool to see this line up in all electric one day.

[@fastbikes]

It will happen one day!

[@mightymouse6363]

These shootouts are entertaining but there's nothing scientific about the results. Just some guys riding and sharing their personal opinions. Thanks for sharing

[@fastbikes]

Fair comment, but it's also decades of experience testing bikes for a living talking, jumping on and off bikes over and over and over, week in week out, for over 15-years and more for just one tester alone. When it comes to 'chatting' about bikes, that kind of experience isn't just general yap, even if we do sometimes come across a bit casual about it, you're right!

[@mbal4052]

Mighty Mouse nothin much scientific about riding motorbikes at all..it's all about emotions, how they make you feel.

[@gabrieljohannson6777]

Loving my Aprilia...

[@richiektm]

Best track bike of the year! What about really world riding

[@fastbikes]

That's covered in all our usual tests, this is SBOTY...

[@dorwood73]

How can MCN and Fast bike have such different outcomes? Rockingham to Portimao?

[@niceguyharry46]

Alright, I live and love motorcycles but can anyone tell me the song title in the video background?

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Which one?

[@niceguyharry46]

Bike World The one at the start of the video.

[@TIMEATTACKEK9]

Bike World i would like to know aswell. Amazing review/production by the way

[@afletra]

why you guys (only) put 1 supersport bike among all those superbikes? is R6 that good that it's stack with the litre bikes? or it's because it's new?

[@fastbikes]

We were supposed to have the new MV F3 675 there (and 800 and F4 RC), but MV pulled out at the last minute. R6 is a cracking little bike, more than deserves its place there, we all loved it.

[@afletra]

I see, thanks for the response! the title is "sportbike" afterall, not superbike. nice review, I always been a fan of yamaha especially the R6 because I think superbike just too big for me

[@MrGrandure]

so, bike of the year is chosen off of one rider's style or opinion instead of a group of different riders testing the same bike? interesting.

Well, honda is out of the question for everybody but mcn....

[@fastbikes]

Actually, it was chosen by the three FB testers, unanimous decision, but a bloody tricky one which came down to individual flaws to make the final decision. Closest SBOTY ever!

[@midamultitool1387]

Wish Honda kept the exhaust under the seat like the older cbr's..

[@alifafnan3317]

my fav, 2017 bmw s1000rr

[@nealsteik9408]

Not highly informative, but highly entertaining.

[@kontsir]

On monday im picking up my new gixxer R in black. So hyped. The brake problem will be probably fixed after u change the brake pads so no biggie.

[@fastbikes]

Keep an eye on our YT channel, will be addressing the brake issue on there soon - also on a black Gixer, the very same shown here!

[@TheDyl88]

yo Bike World you said 8 bikes but reviewed 7

[@adult1122]

I wasn't even thinking about the honda til i saw the sp in person 😍😚😚omg. I was like i feel in love for the first time one of the finest to come out of japan. I think a lot of people here haven't being riding long enough to know to go fast on a bike you must love the thing first. And mcn test road bikes the we buy not race bikes. Don't disrespect what you don't know. These machines are restriced on road tires.

[@sachinmb6479]

Finally a great unbiased review

[@coc3king588]

Well for me its how you ride the bike...but i'll always go with the honda because they have the most colorful background and they had the most wins in the Isle of men tt rcae

[@jorthellevoort9465]

Is the mv agusta f4 rr on the same levl, so to speak, with these bikes?

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

Is it possible to put any bigger muffler on Suzuki?

[@domwells1985]

Euro 4 really killed the S1000rr then... didn't even get a slick time this year (last years slick time of the pre Euro 4 version killed all of this years bikes) awesome test, awesome mag

[@fastbikes]

Thanks Dom! Actually it was darn close between the BMW and Suzuki for that last slot, wasn't an easy choice, BMW is still superb!