Bill Cipher VS Golb!

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[@pandathebest4389]

A point that could also be made is the chaos Bill causes feeds Golb making him more powerful

[@SmoistAbyss]

i agree, cause golb cant take damage , it can only be slightly hurt by harmony

[@TrueLocalEnthusiast]

And we know Bill doesn't have an ounce of that 😅

[@jomama3994]

​@@TrueLocalEnthusiast I mean bill destroyed the 2d dimension and he can sing

[@SomeBody-ch7sj]

@@jomama3994 he can indeed sing... just not in harmony but he is a good solo singer

[@kato856]

@@SomeBody-ch7sj he can just make more of himself.

[@SomeBody-ch7sj]

@@kato856 tbf harmony and singing still doesn't do anything but stall cuz all it does is just like... Idk make a hole inside him?

[@suspiciouslystickysocks8850]

Bill Cypher was literally kicked out of his dimension because he caused so much ruin and choas

[@smittywerben1849]

And Golb ate his dimension when it reached its end. If anything Bill is just another agent of Golb unbeknownst to him. Golb is oblivion incarnate while Bill is chaos. Oblivion always wins in the end.

[@potatovert8993]

Golb is so scary bcz like we really dont know his full powers. It can only be assumed. My main logic for golb winning tho is that, if bill cypher destroyed shit i dont think he could destroy it so hard that u lose the memory of it also. Golb did that in puhoy so thats like….. terrifying?

[@jackeyesteon9427]

I don't see why Bill wouldn't be able to, and we also don't know Bill's full power since he never achieved it, so they are pretty alike.

[@potatovert8993]

@@jackeyesteon9427 you know what you’re right…. We dont know if he could… Gold still has my biased tho 😭 anything adventure time has my vote

[@jackeyesteon9427]

@@potatovert8993 at least you're honest.

[@bongcloudopening5404]

Golb betty did use her powers to make a universe Canon into the multiverse, and the other higher beings like Scarab's boss just accepted it. It's a nice new feat, there's also Golb turning the lich into a tetris block, so she can probably do it to Bill to permanently trap or seal him, but even then i still don't know who wins this.

[@mertensiam3384]

The thing with this is that Golb would feed from anything Bill did, so Bill could only make him more powerful

[@SmileGuide-hz6hd]

Apperantely if golb could move his limbs it would completely break his stats and make him boundless 💀

[@Roodid]

He Doesn't Show Any Effort When He Does Anything And He's Already Outerversal

[@Sparky920]

One of the most powerful fictional characters yet too lazy to move his limbs

[@yaqbulyakkerbat4190]

Hmm I'd say this one is apples and oranges. They're both beings of such extreme power and paradox that it's more than likely the two could never genuinely hurt one another. Bill could only be beaten by being outsmarted. Golb would never outsmart him. Bill cannot utilize harmony and therefore has no, or little, effect on Golb. Bill had WAY more power than you actually described here. He could have thanos-snapped the entire universe if he wanted. Not to mention he annihilated his entire home dimension. He was simply caught by a convoluted rule or principle that kept him contained as a being of wierdness. Same way Golb was beaten by the crown. It was a lateral move, not a superior one. If anything this one is more likely a stalemate.

[@megaedeath8063]

i mean Bill could probably utilize harmony, also all he needs to beat Golb is being able to destroy the Adventure Time cosmology which due to Time Baby's statement of his rift being able to destroy all of existence i dont think he would have a problem doing

[@eksprolek2924]

well, bill can sing

[@aytefdanceevolution6657]

Golb is Immune to all attacks even if you say Bill can one snap the Universe , Golb destroys Universes on the daily with his mere presence like he did to the pillow world , Yes Bill Cipher is a higher Dimensional being but Golb is Beyond Dimensional Conception because he lives outside of them meaning he isn't bound by rules of Dimensions. Golb is op , He even made Simon's world " ,Canon " in Fiona and cake So if you ask me , If Golb was in Bill's shoes , He could have conjured Weirdmaggedon in episode one

[@autismaustin9072]

are we all just gonna forget the time bill nailed the FUCK outta we’ll meet again

[@aytefdanceevolution6657]

Noo Bill is a being existing on a higher Dimensional existence while Golb is beyond it , Bill can be destroyed , while can't be , his an embodiment or an abstract Existence so you cannot kill Golb , Killing him just creates a Paradox of him existing Golb is a beyond Dimensional Entity meaning he isn't bound by rules of Dimensions or anything related to Space-time. It won't be a stalemate, Golb would end Bill Cipher, Golb is Immune to all trauma and phenomenon meaning even magic isn't an option. Yes Wish Magic could affect Golb but it couldn't kill him ,nit technically just changed his mind from ending the Multiverse by fusing with Betty . Harmony? , Harmony isn't a significant weakness to Golb , It just teared up a hole which did absolutely nothing to him . If you say Golb is bound by wish magic then it means the wish which Betty made ( i wish for golb to disappear from this world ) could have worked but it didn't, showcasing how much powerful gold really is. Bro casually destroying worlds with his mere presence, How long did it take Bill Cipher to take over the main world timeline or 3rd Dimension. While Golb can casually enter any Dimension he so fits

[@minhhoangnguyen8819]

My opinion? Both Gods, immortal, imbodiment of chaos, power beyond imagination, cant kill each other, Done

[@chungusblungus7826]

Magicman vs Bill Cipher

[@afrinaut3094]

Golb vs Life Herself (the snake lady). Not much is known of her or her power/potential. Also maybe, hunson abadeer vs death.

[@Burning_Godzilla_fan]

Usually, I would agree with golb taking just about anyone in fiction, but I mean, Bill Cipher has destroyed an entire dimension and constantly grows outside of it. And, he killed time baby basically the prisma of gravity falls, and he doesn't really have a weakness there's only 2 that being the zodiac circle and erasing him while he's in the mindspace and that's not even permanent I don't think anyone wins this fight there no way the other can put there opponent down for more than a couple seconds

[@TrueLocalEnthusiast]

This is pretty much my main issue with these VS battles as it basically boils down to "My warping is better than YOUR warping" fact is no answer I give would be satisfying

[@Burning_Godzilla_fan]

And for the reason golb can't be defeated, do you think Bill Cipher can be harmonious for a single second he is basically a chaos factory, so no, he's not beating golb and golb isn't beating him

[@Burning_Godzilla_fan]

@truelocalweirdo honestly, a tie is the best you can do in these sorts of situations it would just be an endless battle .there are always going to be people thinking their character is better, nothing you can really do about it

[@xxJC22xx]

@@Burning_Godzilla_fan Bill has information gathering skills though, as he’s shown to be able to travel through and see through any point in time. I’m sure he’d see the future where Golb is damaged from Harmony, though how Bill would implement that is questionable Unlike someone like Discord, Golb isn’t a character that has abstract existence. Yes chaos makes him stronger, but how would he come back if Bill just blew him up?

[@Player47333]

​​​@@xxJC22xxbro finn literally wished that the lich never existed but he still manages to comeback since he represented the inevitable and he's just one of golbs followers so imagine golb himself

[@deltoid77-nick]

Even though golb is the literal embodiment of chaos I think he is still an infant a baby, he is literally posing like a child it's not meditation it's his Natural Instincts at work.

[@justlarry7329]

He is not a baby. He existed before the universe, and time even started. golb just chose to be in the baby form

[@stormostormo9465]

I do have to agree for the most part bill is strong but many people overestimate bills capabilities Now of course with a physics conversion I think he would be stronger in the adventure Time Universe than he is in his current universe but even then he wouldn't really match up to golb so all-in-all I have to agree in this scenario gold would win

[@SubToGoober]

Golb: :O FREE CHAOS POWER FACTORY GLITCH??!?!? Bill Cipher: *yes*

[@pesta6965]

"bill is strong, but golb is beyond strength"

[@thesmashor4396]

Credit where credit is due, that treehouse was powered by a portal that was capable of destroying the universe.

[@milkuetea]

ah, yes cosmic horros beyond my comprehension!

[@smiler8497]

Now imagine if there was a character that embodies order/harmony, aka the opposite of Golb. How strong would they be? 😳

[@showtimeman307]

Bill did not say that he would destroy the planet he said he would destroy the entire Multiverse

[@revtheobbyist2222]

golb can do that accidentally

[@miguelmartins5968]

Golb can demote bill from triangle to Tetris piece with just a stare bruh😅 I would like see a remake of this video because now we have more info about Golb

[@ashtoncharles7035]

Cool! Hey Btw if you consider doing more crossover battles like this can you do Willow from the owl house vs Fern from and adventure time?

[@TrueLocalEnthusiast]

Perhaps...

[@ashtoncharles7035]

​@@TrueLocalEnthusiastfor real? :D

[@TrueLocalEnthusiast]

@@ashtoncharles7035 For real :)

[@Cipher_Bill_Editz]

Can you do Bill Cipher Vs The Lich

[@MythologywithMike]

Golb vs Darkseid from DC comics?

[@sciencenerd1235]

Can you do golb vs first spinjitzu master

[@CHLEBEK761]

Meanwhile spongebob💀

[@megaedeath8063]

yeah but Golb is only chaos in the A.T. cosmology, for Bill to beat Golb he has to be able to beat the cosmology which he can do via being stated that his rift in space time was gonna wipe out all of existence (and the Gravity Falls cosmology is absolutely insane), also you cant be omnipotent if you have boundaries, that kinda defeats the purpose

[@Youfattyboy]

I don't think I remember anyone saying Golb is completely invincible, or immune too any type of magic. plus, he was affected by the crown. that's magic isn't it?

[@Sparky920]

Any magic that can harm him, the wish Betty made didn't really harm him in a way it made him more powerful Since he gained Betty's brains/intelligence

[@eksprolek2924]

counter argument: bill cypher is good at singing

[@codyrosas2571]

Strongly agree

[@theauditor3224]

whilst i dont diagree with you. i cant agree with you. the version of bill we saw was...in a sense. heavily supressed. once unleashing weirdmagedon he was SUPPOSED to get stronger. but that barrier of all that is weird kept him in check. a completely unchained bill could scale significantly higher than golb in terms of dimensionality (ive been seeing some 11D feats flying around)

[@mehdi.dz4541]

Yes but still golb is omnipotent and omnipresent he can't be hurt or destroyed or anything he is the end and chaos itself

[@thebatmanofneo-gotham5667]

Bill Cipher: "Feel the immense, untethered power of my being, foolish creature! Nobody's a match for the wrath of Bill Cipher! HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!" *zap* Golb: "Ayo, did someone just throw a paper ball at me?" Bill Cipher: 0__o "Oh... fuck."

[@TheBread762]

I would just like to point out bill destroyed the second dimension and has 7-11 dimensional strength, along with being faster than light, and infinite power of can get weirdmagedin to full power also surpasses AXOLOTL, he also nearly destroyed the multi verse in a fit of anger

[@jackeyesteon9427]

Don't forget GF dimensions contain multiverses inside them, so Bill destroyed his home dimension which contained multiverses + his family who were most likely other reality warpers.

[@theplague5803]

There is only one problem golb can literally do the same so what happens

[@jackeyesteon9427]

@@theplague5803 it's a tie then.

[@jackeyesteon9427]

@@theplague5803 if you just say "oh well golb can always do the same thing yeah, oh he killed a dinosaur at 3pm? Golb can do that too because yes, Bill entered the real world? Golb can do that too because I said so."

[@theplague5803]

@@jackeyesteon9427 yes

[@nonplus-pixel2011]

Golb vs Bill Cipher be like Golb : "why is my food talking?"

[@miguelmartins5968]

Correction Golb would say "why the Tetris piece is talking just Tetris yourself now"

[@DavePrice3156]

Well I'd say too one thing is golb seems to passively just exude it's influence and power unlike say bill cypher who seems to consciously use his abilities what I mean is that golb hasn't really shown it's true power or limitations while Bill seems as if he has some sort of limitations

[@jessegartung294]

I got a Vs idea Gandondorf vs the Litch.

[@intotheworldofdall]

do full calamity anne and bill

[@ennardthefuntimepuppet6456]

Golb is Discord and Discord is Golb

[@maksbro9573]

Black hat vs bill chiper

[@madslayer4197]

Bill literally possessed the creator of his universe golb ain't matching that

[@theplague5803]

They would just become friends

[@scottsolomon967]

I think a much better match up would be magic man and bill maybe maybe

[@Lumberjack_king]

Gold destroys all but cannot be destroyed

[@Jahthepro]

Bro really lowballed bill cipher

[@victorkaranja1420]

I mean, not saying it's inherently wrong, just that the way you described bill feels off, like the world ending thing was basically just what he was gonna do to a place he had history and beef with so he focused on that, he also shows himself able to grant power to ford where he was larger than a galaxy, also everything he was hurt/ best by was specifically built to defeat him/ he was basically messing around with, especially the treehouse

[@NotThatPerson95]

Golb reminds me a lot of the wonder of you from jojolion.

[@Tally-MMall]

but he doesn't give you bad luck he eats you for some reason

[@lorekeeper685]

Wonder how would axolotl fair

[@Darth_Malgus4627]

Bro downgraded Bill to planetary level.

[@-pw1th]

Hb bill cipher vs the lich

[@Rigbus5487]

Bill was bored and destroyed his universe

[@lightspeedweenus]

Being beyond all dimensions in their own verse doesn't mean there are infinite of them. At best they scale beyond creation levels of power but idk if their omnipotent or omnipresent . I agree they are very powerful but I can't see these 2 compared too the strongest in fiction seems wild.. no hate btw

[@TrueLocalEnthusiast]

You're all good 😊 But the reason I believe this is due to how we've seen the universe behave in the series of AT. We know there's multiple timelines, realities, dimensions, etc. With quite literally an infinite number of them as each and every one can have the largest or smallest difference. But despite that people like Golb and Prismo are a constant no matter where the setting is. But you're definitely right some of this is partially speculation as there COULD be a finite number of dimensions but I'd consider it unlikely

[@lightspeedweenus]

@@TrueLocalEnthusiast I agree with what your saying, but the thing is.. to truly be beyond dimensions or dimensionality their has to be a proven infinite set of dimensional hierarchy that proceeds itself infinitely. Something like the world tree from DB heros or the yggdrasil from marvel that contains infinite sets of dimensions that infinitely transcend each other infinitely... Now I think what is considered a dimension that is infinitely transcendental is hard to show in things like cartoons or anime so its not like I am tryin to complain or anything.. just wanted to share some of my knowledge

[@OzkiiBoy]

‘If he was not trapped inside the barrier he would easily have destroyed earth’ 💀 Meanwhile Timebaby literally saying Bill had the potential to destroy the very fabric of existence 💀🫥

[@bradleystewart4124]

Let’s be honest it’s simple golb lost to a 17 yr old and bill lost to 11 year olds

[@Roodid]

Golb Didn't Lose

[@ThatGelatinBoi]

GOLB won wdym

[@wuuyetu]

nahh,what we see in the episode of gravity falls bill cipher CAN take damage by physical thingy beacuse he just didnt reach his goal to escape the magical forcefield of gravity falls IF he reach his goal they can be the same level power soo 50/50 although golb would still won tho.

[@leighlanddbzfan7127]

The lich could beat bill easily so golb is overkill

[@theidiotsfromplanetzognoid3637]

Bill only adapted to the chaos but *GOLB* was born in it molded by it

[@TheWarriorVA]

Me seeing this after Bill vs. Discord: It's funny how dumb you are!

[@lusilusi6371]

golbetty:hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[@janetpopstarr]

but bill destroy his completely his universe and destory time bæby... sooo

[@nak5833]

golb is not a villain. it isnt even malice. much better comparison would be the lich, who is a self proclaimed scholar of golb. the lich is a manifestation of evil and death, where as golb is more like the yin in the yin-yang. he does not have a will to destroy, no personal attachment fueling his destruction. the only will we see golb enact is when he technically kills the lich after the lich is seen worshipping and pleading with golb as he has lost his apparent purpose, which was to end all forms of life in every conceivable reality. golb kills the lich almost as if the lich has continuously misunderstood golbs intentions and reason for existence. golb is the inevitability of darkness and non-existence itself. golb is necessary, like a permanent fixture that has existed before time itself. golb likely does not even feel things like guilt, malice, or hatred and there is a good chance that without golb and his unseen counter part, existence itself (as we know it) would not even exist. we recognize death as a natural part of life, that is golb. the lich is more like a murderer forcing death by his own hand. bill is like a deity, golb is like a primordial concept that has taken physical form.

[@g_man14vgmemez2]

I like bill cipher infinitely more than golb but ik he loses to him

[@leondejesuscm4369]

Saitama vs a primordial

[@faithfulblase6731]

2D and 3D which is higher 🤷, bill was only able to destroy a 2D dimension, which is way less than a 3D, for your info a grain of sand in the 3D in much higher than a 2D universe, bill could only transcend the 2D plain, he could not even comprehend the 3D plain ( Dipper's world) because of an equation, time baby was a 4D being, bill was able to kill him just because he tricked him and cought him off guard, when he attacked, bill was terrified of time baby before that, plus bill never showed any time manipulation or time traveling feat, the assumptions fans have are just too much

[@shota_tomioka2189]

List in the replies cartoon characters that can beat Bill Cipher it aint alot but still

[@Roodid]

Golb, The Axolotl, Alien X And The Lich I Feel Like I Forgot Someone (And It's Not Black Hat Before Anybody Says That ) But These Are The Only Ones I Know That Are Stronger Than Bill

[@NUMBER927E]

​@@RoodidSpongeBob and uncle grandpa

[@BetterbowI]

bill solos

[@masterbeast-sz1yq]

1 shot from golb

[@yaelystories6497]

Nah man bill kulls him

[@thiminhhanhnguyen7658]

You have any evidence?

[@xxJC22xx]

Golb is featless, and there’s no evidence that he should scale to Prismo. Golbs best feat is destroying a small dimension, which isn’t too impressive compared to Bills statements from the Q&A and show feats (being pretty much confirmed 4th dimensional after killing Time Baby who controls and governs time). The reason I figured that Prismo couldn’t find Golb is because he’s an anomaly. Golb exist outside in a void, separate from any reality that Prismo can peer into

[@JhonSpeed-xz7iv]

Prismo is not omnipotent because he couldn’t grant the wish

[@agoodroastdinner3230]

When I saw the video, image,i thought it was buko vs bill cipher but we know buko would win

[@dimitarmeshkov7893]

bill littery controls time ,space and matter and many other things he is stronger for me

[@lich848]

Sorry but he is not.

[@dimitarmeshkov7893]

@@lich848 he is

[@lich848]

@@dimitarmeshkov7893 nope

[@maninhu9837]

So does prismo, the only thing that can slightly annoy golb is order and harmony, the exact opposite of Bill's whole purpose

[@victorkaranja1420]

​@@lich848 lich is repping his daddy, opinion invalidated