Everyone says Ronen doesn't want to be fair with the drivers; COME ON, PEOPLE. Do you know how much it costs to open a trucking company? Do you know how much it costs to keep the trucking company alive? Do you know the cost for a trucking company owner? Do you really think if Ronen was making a ton of money, he would be on KZbin making extra money? Brokers/shippers are paying close to nothing to send a load from one state to another. Now get a pen, paper and calculator; do the math. The cost to have a company pay the fuel, the tolls, extras, and the driver is crazy. So how about we find a solution instead of complaining? I wish I could give a waitress 50% tips, do you know how much they get paid??? And many of you give, what?, 2%, 5%? Sometimes nothing. So, stop crying and thank God for your job and the money you are getting paid. Not happy, go open your own company. But please come back and let me know how things are going. Man up!!!!! This message comes from a mom of two and a business owner. Yeah, man up or move your as**.
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News12 күн бұрын
Beautifully said!
@604h22a11 ай бұрын
Never seen ronen so fired up, obviously he’s against this since his company will have to pay more to there driver
@ne983511 ай бұрын
LOL!!!
@rayonwilliams942511 ай бұрын
Lol he is lol 😢
@66mmpow11 ай бұрын
Of course,he probally takes loads for 1.15 a mile.Now he has to pay a fair wage every other industry gets.It wont be a disaster,far from it.If the companies play games the drivers will just quit and move on to one that doesnt.Cut miles or hours and your gonna lose all your drivers.Good luck telling Bob whos been w the comp for 31 yrs hes gotta slip seat now......LOL😅
@donniegreathouse7211 ай бұрын
It's just big companies not wanting to pay us for what we are worth.
@Nihil200511 ай бұрын
They’re also scared some truckers may lie about their wait time at shippers and receivers in order to purposefully raise their pay.
@GPROMOTIONS11 ай бұрын
@@Nihil2005you have an ELD can prove how long you are there Aldo bol has check inn time and leaving time
@andrenero830811 ай бұрын
They have allowed their competition with each other blind them. It's too easy today for a carrier to go bankrupt but they continue to point the finger at the driver. The backbone of every carrier, the backbone of every company.
@Hoosier-u4w11 ай бұрын
I work as an hourly driver earning 1 1/2 times my hourly pay after 40 hours of work. I would not accept a job that doesn’t pay me a premium wage after 40 hours of work ! For the last 15 years I’ve been working 55+ hours a week.
@DrivetoProvide11 ай бұрын
As an owner operator I hope it goes through. Tender rejections will go through the roof, mega carriers will lose a lot of drivers
@edwardgaspar542811 ай бұрын
Youre totally right. For the first time in awhile, this willl be a long term win for owner ops.
@sonofatlas137211 ай бұрын
They won’t lose drivers they’ll only value retention more.
@uria71111 ай бұрын
Agreed
@samstevens198211 ай бұрын
Only three possibilities here. 1. You use owner operators 2. You pay overtime 3. You pay higher wages so that truckers can survive on 44 hours and not quit the industry. What this video suggests is somehow doubling your workforce for half the wages. Good luck
@preppertrucker573611 ай бұрын
Sounds about right 👍
@RyanBanman11 ай бұрын
I think O/O would become more expensive too. My thinking is why would I keep my truck, work in it all week then under it every weekend when as a driver I could make better money than before without the hassles of my own truck.
@sergiotrujilloargueta958011 ай бұрын
Im a company driver use to be OTR , and hate all the time wasted and not getting paid for., so is FAIR to get paid after 40 hrs of work like anybody else!!. BUT if truck companies would get greedy and reduce pay per mile, then i think will not be worth it for me as a company driver.
@kodamag-bb2of11 ай бұрын
Rates would definitely increase that’s for sure. OTR needs to get paid fairly. That’s why I quit and do local. I make more driving a class B truck, home everyday, and less hours than a class A OTR gig.
@JasonSmith-vd1sz11 ай бұрын
This video is not suggesting doubling your workforce for half the wages, the government is. This is a misguided regulation!
@HeyYoZone11 ай бұрын
Let's not forget the human element in this debate: truckers and their families. These hardworking individuals spend long hours on the road, often away from their loved ones, to keep our supply chains moving. Supporting fair pay for truckers isn't just about economics; it's about respect and recognition for the sacrifices they make every day. Fair compensation for all their work, including non-driving tasks, is a step towards acknowledging their invaluable contribution to our society. It's about ensuring that they can provide for their families and have a quality of life that they rightfully deserve. Let's stand in solidarity with our truckers for fair pay and better working conditions. #RespectAndFairPayForTruckers
@Lifeshard8611 ай бұрын
Absolutely not! Our time will be cut down drastically. We will not make as much money
@alekslav8411 ай бұрын
Yes pay overtime. If companies cut pay most of drivers will quit if they can make same money working in town . That’s a good thing, rates goes up, owner operators make more money while big carriers make less money of drivers. Sounds good to me. There is going to be more and more owner operators, while less and less big companies who makes to much money of poor drivers. Bring in on! Over time! Yes!
@2007vitaly11 ай бұрын
Hell yea!
@sonofatlas137211 ай бұрын
Exactly
@abctrucker860111 ай бұрын
What you described is exactly what the ATAs main goal is. Big truckings interest is to keep their power so they can manipulate the freight market, and to prevent smaller Carriers & OO from gaining market share by Trying to pull the ladder up behind them.
@jeffreyluthye174011 ай бұрын
You don't want to pay people a fair wage
@HeyYoZone11 ай бұрын
"Fully support this legislation! It's high time truck drivers get fair compensation for every hour they put in, not just the miles on the road. This bill isn't just about overtime; it's about recognizing and valuing the hours drivers spend waiting, loading, and doing other essential tasks. Yes, it might increase operational costs, but it's a necessary step towards ensuring that the backbone of our supply chain - the truckers - are treated with the respect and fairness they deserve. Better pay could also help alleviate the driver shortage by making the job more attractive. It's an investment in our drivers' well-being and the health of the industry. #FairPayForTruckers"
@waynez102511 ай бұрын
Sounds like union speak to me, there always talking and respect and being fair.
@preppertrucker573611 ай бұрын
As a former teamster I support this message 💯 👍
@abctrucker860111 ай бұрын
I fully agree. I disagree that trucking company’s will be able to all theses extra drivers to slip seat the trucks. By that logic the industry would need double the amount of drivers as now. According to the ATA they’re a driver shortage! Lol, we all know that’s a lie. Big trucking is lying again. They’re a fair pay issue with truck driving that cause the high turnover in the industry. By the way there are company’s that pay hourly right now and don’t require slip seating. I suppose they don’t all pay time and half but even if they would have then I’m not convinced they would be able to easily hire enough driver to slip seat every truck.
@MakoKong11 ай бұрын
Just seems like company owners are upset at this. Drivers support it.
@edwardjoseph544811 ай бұрын
You’re really only saying it from a fleet owner perspective. Not a driver perspective. Sure if I was a fleet owner I’d be saying the same thing. But let’s say the bill passes and all companies start capping drivers at the 40 hour mark and drivers make between 55-62 cpm (national average) . The drivers will leave and even less people will get into the industry. That’s 4 10 hour shifts of driving so potentially around 1500-2000 miles if you get good runs and have a good dispatcher. Thats 1200 gross a week MAX and on a VERY good week given the potential changes you talked about. But if the companies still kept the same structure and the overtime rule went into effect then we’d make a lot more money. Significantly more money in fact. Also the idea that you’ll get more team drivers for that kind of money is absurd. It’s hard enough nowadays to get people to drive team now. Let alone if you’ll be doing slip sitting teams. The other thing is that if we did go to 40 hour work weeks the companies would have to pay significantly more per mile or go to a per hour pay rate just to keep drivers. So either way if this rule passes and fleets cap the hours of the drivers they’ll be forced to pay more per mile or per hour to keep us. EITHER WAY the drivers will benefit. I get that it sucks as a business owner . I get your point but you’re definitely not seeing it from a driver pov. You’re seeing it as a fleet owner because you’ll have to pay your guys more for the same job they were doing before the bill. That’s my 2 cents anyway.
@Willheim.11 ай бұрын
As an owner operator I'm looking forward to the higher rates this chaos will lead to (temporary though they may be).
@ChrisWorldReview11 ай бұрын
Facts
@TruckerBill053111 ай бұрын
He sounds like he is against the owner op
@ryukirito261611 ай бұрын
I’m looking forward to the chaos too! The world is so boring right now 😂
@Yinn_Gaming11 ай бұрын
A way they can improve the pay system is to just completely nix the overtime idea and strictly only allow hourly pay. No more sense per mile or salary for truck drivers. That way all time is paid waiting around at shippers and unpaid time with the numerous amounts of tasks that are involved in trucking.
@dwightmitchell146411 ай бұрын
That would be settling, we've been settling for way too long.
@lowtechderrick11 ай бұрын
😢30 years into it and I earn about the same than 20 years ago - it just buys me half the stuff than 20 years ago 😂... Trucking used to be a way out of poverty, now it's a way straight back in!
@Nihil200511 ай бұрын
Straight back into poverty if you’re not willing to change your lifestyle or spending habits.
@ne983511 ай бұрын
@@Nihil2005 What do you mean by that?
@Lento_Montar8 ай бұрын
And when companies don't want to pay employees right the employees will leave and when the companies shut their doors the driver can buy their trucks cheap. I'm looking at this from a different prospective then most drivers because I spent 20 yrs as a welder. But this is great for drivers.
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News8 ай бұрын
I like your take on this
@preppertrucker573611 ай бұрын
Hard to believe Truck drivers were excluded from overtime pay when literally every other industry has to be paid overtime….. When I first started trucking I was completely shocked by this….. I’ve been in manufacturing for most of my life so I have a unique perspective on this…. Did Ronen really say truck drivers are getting paid fair 😂😂😂
@abctrucker860111 ай бұрын
Yes he did. Rowan is a SHILL for the ATA
@kodamag-bb2of11 ай бұрын
Or here’s an idea, pay truckers an hourly wage.
@Mr.Mister123411 ай бұрын
F@ck that
@Joe_Hunt_Music11 ай бұрын
Never happen
@SophiaF349911 ай бұрын
@@Joe_Hunt_Music happens in most places tho
@604h22a11 ай бұрын
@@Joe_Hunt_Musicwhy not? I get paid hourly local with overtime and double time and union pension just to name a few goodies
@joshuaroe302111 ай бұрын
Would be easy to do with eld
@RyanBanman11 ай бұрын
I think your right that it will disrupt the industry. It needs it. People need to realize that shipping rates are too low. Our wages, our equipment is expensive and people need to get that the industry sucks!!! There aren't enough drivers as it is, so maybe carriers will be forced to increase rates to pay a good driver for the full time? Even O/Os will consider their time worked over regular hours. A tradesman gets big money for taking on an out of town job. Truckers make decent money per year. But always away from home without the same kind of bonus. And the amount of hours worked for the pay received is garbage!!!! I despise this industry And of course the trucking associations would be against it. They're not for the trucker, they're for the big trucking company business owners!!
@JoshuaTerence3811 ай бұрын
You realize right this would put pressure on ceos in trucking companies like ronin to put pressure on brokers and customers to pay better, BECAUSE, despite ronin clear as day dismissiveness, he wouldnt make you guys sit especially otr, you cant slip seat regional or otr, so the only course would be to put pressure on these shipper,recievers,and brokers to pay better, so it would increas frieght rates especially for o/o because dont wanna pay overtime for company drivers, pay o/o better rates to where it would be better then paying overtimes, but better then what they are doing to cheap rates gthey have now... REMEMBER ronin used to be a truckers... he has been a ceo for quite awhile now... the ceo mindset has kicked in. Nothing wrong with that, but remember in situations like this he is going to see this from the truckers perceptions..... AND GUESS WHAT??? he know it cause he clearly had to try and explain that it is a truckers perceptions, but i when he said that i got the vibes i get, when i have been around manipulators.. I think he is full of something, and he knows it
@rogerg083411 ай бұрын
As a company, OTR, truck driver if this becomes "law" and the company I work for cuts pay I'd quit the very next day. At $0.70/mile, it's BARELY enough pay to be on the road for months at a time. I'll leave the industry all together, fuk it all.
@ne983511 ай бұрын
$0.70 CPM isn't enough for you!! Tell me more!! 🤔
@rogerg083411 ай бұрын
@ne9835 Well, in order to get $0.70 per mile, you have to be on the road a minimum of 2 months, no 34 resets, mon - sun, day n night. I would never, ever, do this job for less than $0.7/mile. It's not worth it. Running on recaps limits how much you can drive and, therefore, limits your earning potential.
@dentman6711 ай бұрын
In other words you kiss the boots your boss, and thank him for letting you work 70 hours a week. You also get the bonus of missing every family event. Aren't you guys lucky.
@kcook295211 ай бұрын
Good life isn't all about work ...no more live to work. We can work to live
@Tripod29011 ай бұрын
I think this is great news, most drivers will get 44 hours only… However, skilled company OTR drivers that already do 70 hours a week, pick up and deliver loads on time and successfully will not see a decrease in hours. They may be teamed up but their value will only increase. This is great news for all drivers in my OPINION. Only fleets see this as bad news. Cause they gotta pay more now 😆. Now pay your professionals like any other professional should be paid.
@whiterunguard631911 ай бұрын
How are you going to find a part time driver in an industry thats already so short handed? You know why its so short-handed? Because 90% of trucking companies pay absolute garbage to run you into the ground. I think it's a good start but unfortunately Truckers are fighting an uphill battle.
@crisalvarado964611 ай бұрын
He is right, with the Cost going up on Mega carriers, loads will flood the spot Market! We owner operators need not take cheap loads, anyone taking a cheap load is hurting us all!
@Jus-jj5in11 ай бұрын
Most of my runs were beyond the scope of 4 days so I’m not sure how I’ll be slip seated out of my truck 3500km from home. I’ll just stick to industry where my bosses don’t see me as a burden and a nuisance. Please send my condolences!
@M2Validated11 ай бұрын
It’s a start. Thank God. We run America and it’s time for brokers and companies to feel what we’ve been feeling for a long time. Heres another idea. Pay them per diem for overnights , overnight premiums, and other incentives for being away from their families.
@beyondartists764111 ай бұрын
Truckers deserves more pay no matter what and Carriers knows that. Detention, layovers, and CPM is way less than what they should make.
@mikeziegler700811 ай бұрын
I agree with Ronen in that this is the worst time to introduce this legislation. Too many trucks competing with too few loads will result on the loads being spread over more trucks with each truck earning less. Imagine a scenario where you have a load and you are told that you must shut down after 8 hours every day? This will certainly happen except in cases where the load is desperately needed as quickly as legally possible. When I was an OTR driver, I HATED sitting in truck stops when I could/should have been driving. It would really suck being forced to park while under a load all because the company only wanted you working for straight time. So that is the question; Will the trucking companies be compelled to pay you for time spent sitting, (NOT WAITING FOR LOADING/UNLOADING), but sitting, waiting on dispatch or sitting because you are told to park to avoid OT? Losing the ability to earn while ALSO being stuck out of town will really, REALLY suck.
@yrm129711 ай бұрын
I was a company driver for two years and now one year as son owner operator running under a mega carrier. This profession is amazing driving all over this country is amazing but the bullshit that we have to take from dispatcher, brokers, dot, truck stops 4 wheelers without us able to retaliate and if we do we get grounded like kids, I hate it, no one verbally can at work assault a fellow employee without consequences and hr involved but we do. The industry fears because one way or another we the drivers are the industry and even in bad times we make money, we are the industry, my mega carrier has more trucks parked in yard than on the roads, because we are the back bone of the industry and they know it.
@tomwoods343711 ай бұрын
Something needs to change because drivers are not paid what their worth. You know Something. My mechanic never gives me the first 2 hrs of labor free🤔
@ne983511 ай бұрын
Nope!!
@truckingwithfauz708911 ай бұрын
If that’s the case then nobody will be driving no more… bring this law on it will be hard at first just like elds but will eventually become a good thing
@nicolagaballo312011 ай бұрын
Wow I didn t even know it wasn t yet mandatory for companies to pay overtime. Here in NY is pretty much standard for every hourly paid driver to get paid time and half past 40hr. Ron is out of his mind. He suggests companies will double their workforce and give drivers odd shifts to avoid paying that. Close to impossible to do for various reason. Can t wait to see how that ll work for him!
@travisdavis913711 ай бұрын
This is really best for everybody. Otr loads will skyrocket and all local gigs will be hourly. I deliver fuel for a national chain of gas stations. Anything after 40 hours I get time and a half and wouldn't have it any other way.
@JoshsTruckingadventures11 ай бұрын
Also ata is full of mega carriers that take advantage of their drivers.
@sandroaces11 ай бұрын
Remember guys this guy is an owner of a trucking company. Also our pay industry wide is so bad. And from what I’ve seen lots of companies like to play games to get you working for free. In the end they will need to pay you A decent wage at 40 or fail. I make 32.55 an hour at 40 hours I make more then most do working 60 hours over the road.
@markrupprnkamp583211 ай бұрын
I have seen the rail roads lose a lot of business to the the trucking industry. It seems like the last 30 years they had started a come back with container freight.With manitory over time this will continue till over the road trucking in a much smaller part of moving freight.
@ne983511 ай бұрын
@@markrupprnkamp5832 Hope not. 👀👀
@brandino97yyc11 ай бұрын
I think instead of getting an overtime pay for OTR drivers just give us a $50 or $75 every night we're out on the road away from home
@bryanfugate227211 ай бұрын
Ronnen: Would a possible compromise be overtime for local company driver but no overtly for owner operators/ lease drivers & ORT drivers? It’s not perfect but we need to get drivers wages back to where drivers make a good living again.
@Dean-pc1ok11 ай бұрын
Lol
@JoshsTruckingadventures11 ай бұрын
Here’s an idea also, you can also do a modified hour and Milage pay. You can get paid hourly while at shipper receiver, securing, tarping and once you hit road go to Milage win win
@payne776111 ай бұрын
Alot of companies do this but you have to be waiting for minimum of 2 hours before that hourly wage kicks in. One company I drove for starting paying you after 1 hour, but always the minimum waiting time had to be hit before downtime pay started. So if you waited for 2hrs getting loaded then at 2hr 15min you're done you still gave up 2h14m of free time. CPM plus "all time" waiting at a shipper/receiver should be paid. My ELD let me swap to "on duty @ shipper/receiver", every minute of that should be paid at 30 bucks an hour.
@mrsirbob1111 ай бұрын
I wouldn't kick a 40 hour work week out of bed Oh no more time with my family being there for my kids... this is awful we should stop this
@M0rmagil11 ай бұрын
I’m up for this, because a lot of trucking companies will go out of business so much faster. O/O will be there to pick up the slack because we can out compete company drivers.
@Forerotrucking11 ай бұрын
More drivers will become op, that’s just a big problem for big companies.
@oneononebilliardinstructio532911 ай бұрын
As a company otr driver I want to get paid an hourly pay for every hour working not driving. Pre Trip Inspections, fueling, and all other activities required including time loading and unloading
@markfilar2311 ай бұрын
So company drivers that already get paid hourly, this will not affect that right? It’s only drivers that get paid by the mile I was a company driver for 20 years and I got paid overtime anything over 40 so what am I missing?
@ICYPROFITS11 ай бұрын
This is perfect for the drivers
@kiani239011 ай бұрын
Company owner giving driver’s perspective lol
@smeshcel302511 ай бұрын
I know its a absolute joke
@Nihil200511 ай бұрын
I’m a spotter truck driver an get paid hourly, but no overtime pay. I work usually 45 hours a week. I can’t wait until this bill becomes a law.
@clemkaddilehopper473511 ай бұрын
I work 40 hrs a week at 34.11 per hour. Yes I have a life
@divineflamebathworks373011 ай бұрын
If you work local and get paid by the hour and after you work 40 hrs you should get paid time and half everyone else does..
@twanwooden181511 ай бұрын
I totally agree...hard to slip seat when you're are a two thousand miles from your terminal😂😂😂
@vonhiltz11 ай бұрын
Ronin couldn’t afford his lavish lifestyle and To play with his KZbin channel all day if he had to pay drivers fairly for the 90 hr work week they actually put in.
@juandelossantos393411 ай бұрын
Why should the pay be lowered for truck drivers? Adjust shipping prices. You can’t make OTR’s run with a partner. A lot of drivers will look for another fleet, local or regional job. I am not going to be home on Thanksgiving. That’s why you should realize drivers don’t get fair pay. Some times are more valuable than any compensation offered. Think about this while you enjoy dinner with your family. Yes truckers deserve fair pay.
@jerrydyer78711 ай бұрын
If a trucking company pays good will not need no overtime but seeing how they do not pay good they need it
@figotoo11 ай бұрын
I have a solution .Soon as you check in for pick up or delivery the timer have to start 75$ for the company and from there 30$ per hour for the driver! I promise you no more delays 😅 everything else you have to keep it the same. The make really bad now for games …
@JoTrev111 ай бұрын
Just compensate me for the miles I miss out on from sitting constantly throughout a week.
@yingstj10011 ай бұрын
Use your hours correctly and you shouldn't lose the ability to run. Not always but the majority of the time.
@JoTrev111 ай бұрын
@@yingstj100 I have no control over mishaps at the shipper/receiver, and what the company chooses to do. Other than eat a bag of dirt, or make my decision that may or may not have repercussions. Or having to settle for below minimum wage detention pay. I know how to run my clock. Split logging for example means more time working and not getting paid accordingly at times. That’s the problem I have and many others have. Time away from home and no proper compensation. The company is always going to make their business decisions at the expense of your time and labor. In my opinion that first 2 hours free is between that customer and it’s carrier not me as the driver.
@briancallahan567311 ай бұрын
We get 40 a hour but have the 2 hour thing but they do pay is without question… don’t have to argue with them
@yingstj10011 ай бұрын
@@JoTrev1 the definition of what a trucker is has obviously changed.
@JoTrev111 ай бұрын
@@briancallahan5673 that’s another thing, drivers work for some carriers that actually pay their drivers for everything. So they usually don’t care about the rest of the industry’s drivers as long as they got their money. I believe that’s part of the reason drivers will never stand together. Me first mentality society in general.
@ajenisj378711 ай бұрын
...Companies like these already exist though...as in hourly wage that pay overtime.
@WesleyPettit-su2rq8 ай бұрын
Ups teamsters Union think I'm kidding read their contract you can pull it up online
@r.o.745411 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 Good luck to the companies in hiring extra drivers just so they don't have to pay overtime. It's hard to keep drivers in the current conditions.
@Amir-El-Ghouat11 ай бұрын
Litterlaly ain't nothing like working whit percentage from each and every load whit a small carrier, i Litterlaly average 2000$-2700$ gross each & every week, and i'm super satisfying that way
@miamiseba111 ай бұрын
Any law which is from 1938 should be changed.
@adventuresofaliftime498911 ай бұрын
Just putting it out there our government doesn't give a damn about the truckers. This is solely just to increase the tax revenue.
@osagiepetre30411 ай бұрын
Wherever you pay a person less they will always move and you end with crappy drivers and more liabilities just because the company wants to save a few bucks
@geraldwilson72711 ай бұрын
I think it would be bad but there definitely needs to be some changes like instead of waiting 2hrs or more for detention we should have get a hourly wage for all non driving time that way we as drivers are compensated for all our working time and it doesn't have to be anything crazy most local hourly drivers make in my area between 23 and 35 something like that wouldn't make as much of a difference and maybe it would convince shippers and receivers to get us put quicker by adding that time into there bills instead of having us sit for multiple hours
@christiansvideos11 ай бұрын
Everyone but the trucker with a piece of the pie will always fight harder against it. And if we shutdown they will call us terrorists again.
@keeppushing616811 ай бұрын
We tried that when I was working at Schneider local in Dallas. Our pay went from $1200 week to $1500 week. It was great… but it only lasted 1 month then the company had to downsize and cut that pay model back to $1200-$1300 a week
@Neilster9911 ай бұрын
So for the last 40 years the wages have sucked azz in the industry, I spent 22 years long haul all over Canada and the USA even a few times to Mexico. They have always whined about driver shortages every where every month another load of CRAP, the main issue always has been and always will be the money is not enough period. Month in and Month out the driver trades his lifetime of waiting and not getting compensated. You say now is not the time and guess what companies and operations managers have been saying that also since I got into it. Because they dont care about the drivers and if they did they would pay them for the hours they worked period. What other industry assumes a employee has to give away 3 hours a day roughly because thats just the way it has been since 1938??????? How about all those who oppose it in the offices and the factories shippers and receivers start working for 3 hours a day for free to balance out the wage gap between drivers and the rest working in the industry. I guess our families and our paycheques are not as import as the dock workers or the administration workers or the freight brokers. You know the average age of a truck driver in Canada is 58 years old. It is very hard to get people to stay in the industry after 3 months because they get a real taste of being away from family and friends and the money just doesn't cut it. When will the drivers pay match the drivers time in the trucks period. The rest of the world does not have to work 3 hours a day for free. And just because it used to be like that and it helped the industry grow is horse shit, the big companies and the fleet owners grew because they were not and still dont pay a driver a fair average hourly wage. So in the end all drivers will trade time for money and they will not get both they will only get one or the other. Fair pay and equality has never been part of the trucking industry and never will. You think now is not the right time some day very soon the boomers will be all gone(retired early or on time) then what is your plan.....it should be happening now. The changes need to be in place. The driver shortage they have always talked about is really going to happen in about 4 or 5 years from now. Just 1 long haul truck drivers opinion.... :)
@RyanBanman11 ай бұрын
Not just the amount of waiting time a driver accumulates for unpaid, but we work 70hrs a week or more alwasy away from family with mere 36hr reset before we're hounded to leave family and home again.
@nicholas879311 ай бұрын
This literally sounds like Ronnen is complaining because this will make his life difficult. Somehow he thinks in a Labour short economy is somehow going to double truck drivers available lol. This law will actually increase competition for drivers services.
@14gears5511 ай бұрын
I’d like to know where you’d plan on getting all these new drivers from, not to mention replacing the ones who quit when they are forced to take 3 days off
@craigvecellio366311 ай бұрын
Yep. You're a fleet owner looking for cheap labor. Slip seating: it's already being used in every potential application. Even OTR. If you can't get a driver home to switch, you can't get him home to switch. Same applies to teams. Local: most of them already get OT or a daily rate that equates to that.The traditional hourly pay structure with OT is one of the main draws to local work.
@JamesBarrett-y8h11 ай бұрын
What a fool classic business owner
@whiterunguard631911 ай бұрын
Yep. A Canadian businessman crying from his ivory tower
@kmg50111 ай бұрын
I bet UPS would love for this change to happen. Why? Because it will destroy their competition.
@ralphdrees441311 ай бұрын
Hasn’t destroyed UPS. Hasn’t destroyed Walmart. Its still exceptionally cheap to buy crap from Walmart and it is still cheaper to ship with UPS than USPS or Fed Ex
@LifeBindeR2226 ай бұрын
Never watching one of your videos ever again. I get paid overtime and guess what's the downside, the company needs to pay me more and i still work 55-60h/week. Working 70h and getting paid for 58h is a pure scam.
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News6 ай бұрын
I don't believe that's a fault of our videos. If you're being underpaid that's a sign that you're being taken advantage of. Get out of that company, or raise the matter to small claims court
@eduardoamezcua883611 ай бұрын
Or how about passing a bill to let truckers be able to smoke weed and not get fucked for it
@Mulerider4Life11 ай бұрын
Costs will go up for the consumer and consumption/buying will go down. Consumers can only afford to each so much more costs.
@theaveragemale11 ай бұрын
If they counted my time gone I’d be into OT before Wednesday morning Alas I’m not even paid by the hour lol
@lowkey382011 ай бұрын
I support overtime in trucking! Maybe now people can make 60k plus a year working 40 hours a week vs 70 hours a week. 60cents per mile at 100k miles a yr is 60k a year before bonuses but you damn near have to drive a minimum of 50 hours a week to get those miles.
@Semitruckdemi11 ай бұрын
The truck company would be losing money if they had to do this.
@bouquetchocolatesandconfec7711 ай бұрын
This is not good !!!! The reason NOOA wanted this is for the O/O - why because O/O pay these selves no the Companies- drivers - Company Drivers will be laid off for O/O saving companies money. - Not good for running recap HOS company driver will be terminated!! - The worst thing ever for trucking!!!
@nitowlman11 ай бұрын
Being an O/O it might actually cause the fright rates to go up. The reason for that thinking is that if a carrier has to pay O/T, then they aren't going to take the loads that are paying what they are. That would cause the reject tender rate to go up, which would raise the shipping rates. This would cause another issue of a high reject tender rate. Yes, the price would go up, but so would inflation. We can see this of what happened since covid. So, in the long run, it would just make things worse than what it is already.
@vonhiltz11 ай бұрын
70 hours eh! Put down the crack pipe. I drive 70 hrs per week and spend another 20 in detention time or free waiting. I don’t dare do the math on what I actually make. I dont need that bad news.
@DnC200511 ай бұрын
The fix is to establish a minimum wage per mile. Minimum per mile should be .70 a mile and time and a half should kick in at 40 hours making 1.05 a mile. Do it industry wide so it hits everyone and no one is out under cutting anyone because everyone has to pay drivers the same way. Bottom line is that if the BS Chinese crap that people buy has to go up by 5 cents to ensure the drivers are getting paid than that’s just life. I think that some companies would try to slip seat at 40 hours but it’s really not feasible unless you’re a local driver. Unless they started building terminals all over the place, not to mention there are not enough people who want to drive a truck to make that possible.
@BornYooper11 ай бұрын
Driving local hazmat tanker, I get paid OT after 40. I work M-F days and I am home each night. I work 60-70 hours a week with 1-3 stops a day.
@jeffreyluthye174011 ай бұрын
Your idea won't work for OYR
@nealduran301311 ай бұрын
To be fair it’s cheaper to pay time in a half then having to waste your time and money on drug screening etc, back round check to hope the truck driver will stay for more than a year.
@fortworthpac11 ай бұрын
So let me sum this video up as a 20+ year driver / oil field/ otr He saying overtime is not needed & a driver should continue to work overtime for free. Sitting 12hrs at a delivery waiting to unload is ok to not get paid... I dont care once you are in a truck & turn that key away from home your working & while in the truck even in your sleeper you are a Security because although your not driving off-duty/Sleeper you still have to protect Load as well 24/7 in Reefer loads maintain.... So what is you talking about... Bill should include a 5k monthly check to truck drivers Guaranteed like a SSI check for being in the industry paid out the Tax if we as Truckers are so important... "Problem Solved"
@TruckerBill053111 ай бұрын
Just pay detention and all time not driving like Walmart, probation solved
@Rickybobby197211 ай бұрын
Anyone that’s a hourly company driver deserves OT after 40hrs. I once drove for a local company that offered unlimited straight time hours. I was very clear I’m a 8 & skate person. My time with my family is valuable. I’ll let the next person have those extra straight time hours.
@DRONE-e11 ай бұрын
Do something about the waiting time… I don’t see you lobby in Congress to specifically reduce the waiting times… How much waiting time happens at your terminals specifically and what do you do to reduce them or compensate for them?
@ralphdrees441311 ай бұрын
He’s a Canadian carrier.
@JoshsTruckingadventures11 ай бұрын
If company drivers are run by time then we should be paid as such. Milage pay was for companies to bank on all the time drivers don’t get paid. Guess what it could also create safety because now we won’t have to floor it to make up time.
@Jonesy2185211 ай бұрын
This inflation and high interest isn’t going anywhere . We need a raise.
@Hoosier-u4w11 ай бұрын
Driver’s have been exploited for many decades. Don’t think it’s that easy to get high quality drivers. I totally disagree with you and your comments/video
@laylowtube11 ай бұрын
The day I see this I’ll finally see some fairness in the labor world 🌎
@aceshot807311 ай бұрын
I don't believe we should get overtime however I do believe we should be paid for all time at shipper or receiver overtime is more of a hourly thing for those who get paid hourly which most local drivers get paid hourly keep cpm it is easier to calculate and just pay when on sight at shipper or receiver I agree with what he said
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback!
@crawfordtowing449611 ай бұрын
im a fleet owner the simple fix is theres not one but some things they could fix freight needs to pay better inflation needs to come down an jus the costs of being in the trucking worlds needs to level out an come back down look at fuel prices 2 years
@ralphdrees441311 ай бұрын
Drivers should be compensated from the moment they are required to log until the moment they are relieved from duty. For all work, for all wait time, for every single thing that DOT requires be logged as time spent on duty(fuel, loading, unloading, Pretrip, post trip, mid trip, scaling, inspections, etc) and additionally either paid hourly or on a salary basis. Trust companies to do what is FIRST AND FOREMOST in their own interest. If it’s in your interest as a driver, it’s incidental. If a company says unions will hurt you, ask yourself why the company is saying that. They say we think it’s better that you can negotiate your salary directly with us as if it’s negotiable at all. Can salaries rising beyond what a company can bare hurt you as a driver? Absolutely it can. That company and your job can disappear. But again, that’s not actually why companies give a shit about paying you for all the time worked and logged(and usually not logged) by drivers. It’s solely for a profit motive. And as an unapologetic capitalist I don’t oppose this motive. I’m all for companies making profits. And I am also for employees demanding compensation commensurate with the value provided to a company. In a trucking company, it’s almost all of the value outside of the trailer pool and sometimes the contracts. Contracts can change, equipment can age out of a fleet, but it’s a fucking storage shed without you the driver. Fuck these companies. And if the ATA says it, you better believe it’s 100% not in your interest. Guaranteed.
@chrisduma730611 ай бұрын
I agree we should be paid better. But I would bet there are many people & companies trying to figure out how to get around this. Remember any time the government gets involved. It's bad for us.
@preston941211 ай бұрын
Only really see a shift happening in local work or possibly seeing more team regional work. I imagine there will be more of a push for D&H freight with bigger windows at many shippers wanting to avoid detention pay as they spend 5-6 hours floor stacking products on both ends to save weight on pallets. The reality is with the cost of equipment local companies are not going to just buy more equipment, they will end up paying overtime or slip seat equipment until electric truck mandates hit forcing hours of down time charging. Even running trucks 2 shifts a day your going to have added costs of shift pay. When coke went to hourly pay they did alot to try and keep hours down but customers want to be served at certain times, tried adding helpers but now your effect is just time and half all the time. And if a driver calls in sick the helper cant drive the truck, help calls in driver is still going to hit OT. Regional operations on a 4 day work week could easily hit OT if drivers got paid at docks, 4X14=56 hours.Be the same pay as straight pay working 64 hours today only driver isnt working 6 days a week and having 20+ hours unpaid at docks. As an owner operator forcing companies to pay drivers will force rates up. Maybe companies will start passing through thier full fuel discounts to leased drivers and raise the % they pay which has been gettong trimmed for years. Companies making thousands off each lease driver just on fuel they buy on the difference in actaul and passed through discounts.
@umarqazi157911 ай бұрын
This bill can save us from this mess.
@deanvilleneuve661811 ай бұрын
if i make 55 cpm the hour rate should be close to 35 but most company's around me are paying 25 for hourly work, if the industry got real about an hourly wage it would fix the detention time/wait time issues and bring the industry back to a decent paying job. as to the overtime issue just have a different set of rules for overtime in trucking, instead of 40 or 44 hours put it to 55 or 60 then its not as restrictive to the company (which wont be able to hire 2X the drivers they have right away anyway) but the driver still gets something for working 20 hours more then the rest of the workforce.
@jameswells6811 ай бұрын
I'm not surprised. That you think this is a bad idea. Other companies like Southeastern, said, Estes old Dominion pays overtime. But all of them should pay it!
@andrenero830811 ай бұрын
The answer is a federal daily rate that is highly competitive. You get that rate no matter how many miles you drive. If not doing a 34 you get the daily rate. It cuts out all BS.
@The_lot_Herpetologist6 ай бұрын
What it means is a driver will have to show all their time driving and on duty which they should be doing now regardless because its the rules no matter if youre in a dock waiting or waiting on a load it is on duty time and should be logged as on duty time. Split seat will be hard otr unless you have hotel room on the ready. I encourage drivers to run their clock legal it gives shippers receivers and dispatch incentive to utilize a drivers time better. As soon as a driver goes on duty and start the clock it should all be on duty time untill the drivers shuts down for a 10 or 34 hr break.
@preppertrucker573611 ай бұрын
At 70 hrs you’re already making less then minimum wage so if the wages drop anymore you wouldn’t have truck drivers, think about that Ronen….