Bill Maher Goes Quiet As Bernie Checkmates Him On Student Debt | The Kyle Kulinski

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"The first time I ever really listened to Kyle Kulinski’s show was in the back of a cab last summer. The driver had his phone hooked up through the stereo and was pumping out an episode through the car speakers - loudly, as if looking to convert a captive audience.
“Do you like Kyle Kulinski?”
The driver, Ahmed, was a recent immigrant and apparently a die-hard fan of Secular Talk, the political talk show that Kulinski broadcasts on KZbin. I told him, yes, in fact. I do like Kulinski, had come across his show several years ago, and, all things considered, he seemed pretty good.
“He understands what we’re up against,” Ahmed said. “Like Bernie.”
But I was surprised to hear Kulinski’s name mentioned in the same breath as Bernie Sanders, particularly with such adoration. Because what I did remember about Kulinski’s show struck me as mostly capital-P “progressive” takes on the news - the left wing of the Netroots crowd more than the democratic socialism Sanders has popularized.
It’s an impression that wasn’t entirely incorrect.
“I have no time for philosophical, airy bullshit,” Kulinski tells me from his home in Westchester, New York. “I don’t want to hear about Lenin. I don’t want to hear about Marx. I just want a super plainspoken, straightforward agenda with a straightforward way of selling it.”
With over 800,000 subscribers and nearly 670 million total views on KZbin, selling a progressive agenda is clearly something Kulinski knows how to do - even Democracy Now, the long-standing flagship of progressive media, cannot match his reach on the platform. Chapo Trap House can certainly boast a wildly devoted fan base (and a not insignificant degree of media influence), but their audience is roughly half the size of Kulinski’s.
While Secular Talk might be more likely to be looped in with the progressive networks around Air America and Pacifica alums like Sam Seder than the more resolutely socialist world, Kulinski’s fiery rhetoric, razor-sharp class instincts, and knack for withering takedowns sets him apart from his peers. Judging by his rhetoric alone, he’s closer to a Eugene Debs than a Chris Hayes.
But unlike Hayes, Amy Goodman, or his friend Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks - who began airing Secular Talk on his web network seven years ago - the thirty-two-year-old Kulinski is virtually invisible in the mainstream media. Despite his enormous fan base, his show has never once been mentioned in the obligatory trend pieces on “the Millennial Left” pumped out by the prestige media. Nor has Kulinski’s name ever popped up at all in the New York Times, Vox, the New Yorker, New York Magazine, or the Washington Post, despite his leading role in cofounding Justice Democrats, the organization widely credited with sweeping Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of “the Squad” to power.
Just last week, his Wikipedia page was deleted. The reason? “There is very simply no [reliable source] coverage of this person,” according to one moderator. In new media, he’s king - the Sean Hannity of the Berniecrat left. In old media, he’s nobody.
I suspect there are a few reasons for that. There is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show. (As a friend put it, “‘Welcome to Secular Talk’ sounds like something you’d hear on Egyptian radio.”) His no-nonsense social-democratic politics won’t get him much cred with the Full Communism crowd. He records his show not in Brooklyn or Los Angeles, but in a studio he built himself in his modest Westchester home. His hair is too groomed and his taste in clothes too preppy to qualify as “Dirtbag Left.” Nor has he ever attended an n+1 release party. “Not only have I not attended one,” he says, “I have no idea what that means.”
And yet he’s astonishingly plugged-in for a young man in the suburbs. Wondering how Sanders ended up on the Joe Rogan Experience? Kulinski, a frequent guest on Rogan’s wildly popular show, introduced them. “You make the most sense to me,” Rogan told Kulinski on a recent episode. “You’re a normal person.”
Much like Sanders himself, Kulinski’s show has a massive audience that just doesn’t compute with our media’s understanding of “what the kids want” or even “what the left-wing kids want.”
It’s probably for the best - the very woke and very WASP-ish decorum haunting much of the media world is nowhere to be found in Secular Talk. “Corporate Democrats over-focus on identity as a trick to divert you from the issues that unite us all - class issues,” he said on a recent episode.
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[@s.seeley]

America will forever regret not electing this man as President.

[@ArtistRiley]

The audacity of a working class person wanting to take a vacation or eat at a restaurant

[@michellenjamesblake1619]

He didn't change his mind. Maher heard his audience clap for the point and knew he couldn't go against it without seeming like the bad guy to his audience.

[@carmennurse8641]

My granddaughter dropped out of college after one year because of…her words…”a college education/degree would never pay me what I need to survive in America”. She’s still paying off those loans along with paying rent, buy gas and trying to live a normal life.

[@WRREKK]

Bernie Sanders is older than Bill, so Bill couldn’t use his typical shtick where he punches down on the younger generations. He wasn’t able to dismiss Bernie as just an “entitled millennial.”

[@kane7173]

I don’t think bill maher knows what bill Maher even believes in anymore…

[@grundle.chunder]

I don't think Bill's mind changed. I just think he read the room.

[@kingk1217]

I am graduating nursing school in 2 weeks and the stress of having to pay that money back keeps me up at night. There is no victory lap, there is no time to celebrate, we are going straight to work hoping to get some overtime and start paying off the debt. It feels like I’m carrying a giant rock with me 24/7.

[@WinstonBartholomewIII]

I remember when Bernie got applauded by the crowd in an open interview on Fox. He is exactly what this country needs but even if he was elected he would have so many enemies.

[@terrancekayton007]

Bernie is actually going around the country and talking to regular people and bill mahar is sitting on his high horse, reading weighted polls.

[@DarksouIjah]

I’m a 4 yr college graduate with zero student debt and I am more than happy to pay my share for this student loan forgiveness.

[@IdealConscience]

Bill casually admitting it was like $50... and now it's like $15,000... ffs

[@jesuisjoshbonjour]

Bernie absolutely destroying! Love this guy.

[@joshnok6369]

Bill did not change his mind he just adjusted to the audience reaction.

[@thepowerbill1]

I teach at a very poor public school and graduated from a small state university with about 60 grand in debt. My loan payment for 20 years was around $1000 a month. I paid them all off with no help AND I have no problem forgiving students their loans if they graduate from college.

[@NWPaul72]

As a member of GenX, I'd like to hear more about this money we apparently have. Me and most of my peers live frugally and expect to work til we die.

[@ElrohirGuitar]

I graduated college in 1972 debt free. I paid the way through college, to a great extent, for two kids. They helped with part time jobs and partial scholarships. They took out small debt near the end, but I didn't want them to have debt that would be like a credit card debt, always increasing. I am all for cancelling of student debt, even though my kids don't owe any. Education makes a better society, so barriers should not be placed on gaining it.

[@beanindividual4000]

It breaks my heart hearing Bernie tell the truth the way he does.

[@sh4dowst3p]

He’s the only politician that actually ever mentions housing costs

[@redumptious2544]

WAIT.