Bill Porter (Red Pine) on Chinese Hermits

[@EsmagaSapos]

Thank you for interviewing Redpine.

[@jakewarinnerpodcast]

thanks for watching!

[@chrishanna3659]

Great interview. You asked some really great questions. I came across the tradition of Buddhist/Daoist hermits through Jack Kerouac's The Dharma Bums, which in turn led me to Red Pines translations of sutras and Road to Heaven. It's not a topic that gets discussed often, but when it does, I soak it up.Thank you.

[@jakewarinnerpodcast]

Thank you! Love this topic, I'll check out that book!

[@nternalPractice]

You are clueless...these traditions are based on direct practice and direct experience, not intellectual "theory" and dogma.

[@chrishanna3659]

@nternalPractice splendid insight! It was so much appreciated. I am usually just trolled in the youtube comments section, but you show the wisdom of a true master.

[@nternalPractice]

@@chrishanna3659 Thanks but, while I do practice, I am MANY lifetimes away from mastery.

[@shokankinkela6547]

Do you think Mr.Porter would be open to chatting with me about aspirations of becoming a translator? My apologies for reaching out here, but it seemed like the best option. Really appreciate your time and your work.

[@jakewarinnerpodcast]

Shoot me an email! [e-mail]

[@jejehdh]

Excellent interview. I wonder if this tradition could ever become a reality in the US.

[@jakewarinnerpodcast]

Thank you! Would be really interesting. Possible one could develop over time. I'd love to see it

[@nternalPractice]

You have no clue whatsoever about the level of discipline and knowledge involved. In West has turned COMPLETLEY outwards and made huge development in the "outer" sciences of Physics, Mathematics, Engineering etc. The Chinese (and Indians) have gone just as far INWARDS. Considering that these inner "sciences" have been under development for more than 3,000 years I believe they have probably gone SIGNIFICANTLY further "inwards" than the West have gone "outwards". As for this tradition becoming a reality in the US, the Western mind is so utterly mesmerized by outer manifestations of power I don't believe it is fundamentally capable.

[@blackbird5634]

Traditions of monastic religious austerity come from a need to control population growth. Until the US finds the need to stop adding to itself, till it can't feed its own people, it will continue to grow.

[@YawnGod]

The most probable place to find a philosopher king is to find such a hermit. How fun.

[@berndg5018]

Great interview!

[@jakewarinnerpodcast]

Thanks!

[@نوفاببالعلم]

I am really surprised by someone who goes on like this without referring to references. For example, he did not provide any evidence that Taoism descends from shamanism.

[@jakewarinnerpodcast]

He goes into that in the book, I'm assuming that's why he doesn't give specific references in the interview. Most of my guests don't

[@MrFufumann]

you cant teach advanced math if you always have to start at 1+1. do your research!

[@bornatona3954]

Hmmm 🤔🤔🤔

[@blackbird5634]

Take a look at Tibetan history: They understood their country was small and poor in resources so some members of their community volunteered not to have kids or take mates. Then they lived on leftovers, and isolated themselves in huts, or in some cases monasteries. So the tradition of religious monastic life comes from a sensible need to control the population. Don't have kids if you can't feed them. Of course today the practices have become ''sacred'' which is ridiculous.

[@gpac8147]

Maybe read the book and become enlightened..

[@blackbird5634]

@@gpac8147 I've read his books, I like them. Remove the man made concept of ''holy'' and you have ''educated.'' What I said is that population control is the reason people started celibacy and abstinence. And out of man's ego these practices became religions devoted to self exploration. There is nothing ''sacred'' or ''holy'' about them, or the people who do them. The yogi squatting on a dung heap in India is no holier than an Ad Agent on Wall Street.

[@blackbird5634]

@@gpac8147 I detail the beginnings of monastic life as a necessary reaction to overpopulation in a poor country, and you tell me I need to be ''enlightened'' by Bill's book? 🤣

[@gpac8147]

@@blackbird5634 yes you do..or should be ... have you read it , first let's check our positions..

[@gpac8147]

@@blackbird5634 I'll get back to your monastic life ,beginnings of , error ...later ..