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Nick Wright, Greg Jennings, and Kevin Wildes discuss Week 17’s matchup between the Cincinnati Bengals and Buffalo Bills. Nick weighs in on the game and explains he would rather have Joe Burrow as quarterback over Josh Allen. Jennings explains he would also take Burrow over Allen because he sees something special from Burrow as a former wide receiver.
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@FirstThingsFirst
@FirstThingsFirst Жыл бұрын
Check out the What’s Wright? with Nick Wright podcast: sprtspod.fox/WhatsWright_YT
@nwagner643
@nwagner643 Жыл бұрын
Nick “Josh Allen makes me fill my diap” Wright?
@nwagner643
@nwagner643 Жыл бұрын
Nick “The Nathan Peterman of sportscasters” Wright?
@nwagner643
@nwagner643 Жыл бұрын
Nick “Full R£TAR|]” Wright
@cheykesegames4713
@cheykesegames4713 Жыл бұрын
“OH MY GOD WE DON’T CARE ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL”🤣🤣 wildes is hilarious
@jlwilder8436
@jlwilder8436 Жыл бұрын
Or annoying 💁
@Be.authentic_
@Be.authentic_ Жыл бұрын
​@@jlwilder8436🧢
@nathancardenas2719
@nathancardenas2719 Жыл бұрын
Lmao Shows identical stats from the calender. Nick: "So in highschool..."
@sirGarald
@sirGarald Жыл бұрын
Seriously best show on television. Best cast by far.
@jlwilder8436
@jlwilder8436 Жыл бұрын
@@Be.authentic_ blue 🧢? 🪃 🤷
@jackharrist8180
@jackharrist8180 Жыл бұрын
"What do you mean? I was talking about Russell Wilson." Nick knows he was wrong for that🤣🤣🤣
@giacomag.1456
@giacomag.1456 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@plainrock-ik3se
@plainrock-ik3se Жыл бұрын
Good stuff Nick 🤣🤣🤣 go ahead and say Patrick's name as loud as you want to Buddy love to show guys appreciate it and have a Happy New Year all of ya
@sean_prime
@sean_prime Жыл бұрын
The “Gosh Darnit” from wildes in the beginning was hilarious 😂
@newman824
@newman824 Жыл бұрын
As a life long Chiefs fan I think the hate is getting overboard from Nick. Personally, I love Josh Allen and find him just as exciting to watch as Joe Burrow.
@solomonmundo5229
@solomonmundo5229 Жыл бұрын
I am surprised Nick did not publicly celebrate the recent snow storm in Buffalo and all the tragedies. How would you feel, as a Chiefs fan, if Buffalo used Nick's comments as bulletin board material? As a Bills' fan, I have nothing against the Chiefs. They are exciting to watch as well.
@charlesfowler4308
@charlesfowler4308 Жыл бұрын
@@solomonmundo5229 He only "hates" Josh Allen because he's the biggest threat to Mahomes as the best QB in the league, same reason Skipp "hates" LeBron, because he's the closest to Jordan.
@dranzergigs66
@dranzergigs66 Жыл бұрын
@@charlesfowler4308 LoL. Biggest threat. Maybe if he ever beats Mahomes in the playoffs. Or you know wins an AFC championship.
@donaldseigel4101
@donaldseigel4101 Жыл бұрын
Any coach in the league besides Andy Reid, would be happy to have either one of these incredible QB's.
@Boston_CremePie
@Boston_CremePie Жыл бұрын
Reid would be happy to have either as a backup QB
@justinschmidle6872
@justinschmidle6872 Жыл бұрын
@@Torpid6441 Bills wouldn't meet Chiefs until AFC Championship game if the Bills win Monday unless the Chiefs lose out.
@noahornosh
@noahornosh Жыл бұрын
Andy Reid would be happy with any of those 3.
@kccryptkeeper4874
@kccryptkeeper4874 Жыл бұрын
Andy and Veach found their guy no knock on either of these 2 for sure.
@LiveByChrist0
@LiveByChrist0 Жыл бұрын
@@justinschmidle6872 which they will
@armathis2647
@armathis2647 Жыл бұрын
Not Surprising Nick would pick anyone but Josh Allen
@513hook513
@513hook513 Жыл бұрын
Nick completely hates Burrow and the Bengals. Him saying that actually says alot and his take actually makes sense. Burrow is a better pure QB than Allen
@armathis2647
@armathis2647 Жыл бұрын
@@513hook513 nope Nick absolutely hates Allen. He would take Burrow over Allen everyday.
@armathis2647
@armathis2647 Жыл бұрын
@@513hook513 In fact he probably would take Russell Wilson over Josh Allen if he could. That’s how bad he hates Josh Allen
@samuelgaona7196
@samuelgaona7196 Жыл бұрын
@@armathis2647 I mean most people would take Burrow over Josh Allen Greg literally said he would too 💀
@trequanwilliams7482
@trequanwilliams7482 Жыл бұрын
@@513hook513 I watch this show everyday he absolutely hates Josh allen more than burrow it’s not even close
@cyrusthenotsogreat744
@cyrusthenotsogreat744 Жыл бұрын
I really do love Greg's analysis and commentary. Would love to see him as a full time member.
@socaldude4342
@socaldude4342 Жыл бұрын
Not me. He struggles to put words together. He doesn't seem comfortable.
@DcLoki12
@DcLoki12 Жыл бұрын
@@socaldude4342 squonk into the playoffs lol
@wilbertmunda4694
@wilbertmunda4694 Жыл бұрын
No please no😂
@Scoobert409
@Scoobert409 Жыл бұрын
Him and mangini should rotate days or bring both in full time
@zenandekhomo1967
@zenandekhomo1967 Жыл бұрын
Not
@tophighlitez6176
@tophighlitez6176 Жыл бұрын
YO NICK KILLED ME AT 5:28 “russell wilson-“ 😂🤣😂🤣😂💀💀💀☠️☠️😭😭😭
@jonasparker2414
@jonasparker2414 Жыл бұрын
Allen wasn't historically bad as rookie he was on par with most rookie QB seasons
@brandonohara4122
@brandonohara4122 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, Nick just loves to throw extra dirt on to Allen
@StrideX21
@StrideX21 Жыл бұрын
So average
@shawnford9104
@shawnford9104 Жыл бұрын
Had a pretty bad offense as well. His best receiver was kelvin Benjamin and he was in a big decline.
@ill4mz54
@ill4mz54 Жыл бұрын
Nick will never view Josh in a positive light
@tomboard1
@tomboard1 Жыл бұрын
He will when Josh wins the AFC. He had the same attitude toward Burrow and the Bengals last year. He's said as much.
@mikep3813
@mikep3813 Жыл бұрын
@@tomboad1 what Nick says and what Nick does are two very different things. He will never give Allen or the Bills their props because that's his schtick.
@tomboard1
@tomboard1 Жыл бұрын
@@mikep3813 Like I said. He did the same thing to the Bengals last year. I hated him. He was ridiculous.
@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685
@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685 Жыл бұрын
@@tomboard1 allen had 9 td/0 ints in 2 playoff games, burrow had 5tds/2int in 4 playoff games. if you wanna credit him for going to superbowl thats okay but hes not better than allen.
@tomboard1
@tomboard1 Жыл бұрын
@@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685 Enjoy your new year.
@davidhampton4508
@davidhampton4508 Жыл бұрын
Josh Allen has a drive unmatched by any QB in the NFL; would take him any day to win the game. Go Josh!
@giacomag.1456
@giacomag.1456 Жыл бұрын
Greg thank you for your take 💯
@Warstory0126
@Warstory0126 Жыл бұрын
Nick is slowly becoming a HP villain
@Vince-tt1uj
@Vince-tt1uj Жыл бұрын
More like henchman. Reminds me of Peter Pettigrew.
@jhovi3170
@jhovi3170 Жыл бұрын
Josh Allen extends play better than any other quarterback in the league, best on run , and biggest arm .
@TDR-0484
@TDR-0484 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter when he's Oprah with the ball Just loves giving it away lol
@getbrainseeds
@getbrainseeds Жыл бұрын
allen loses playoffs while burrow doesn't
@nassiglutt6587
@nassiglutt6587 Жыл бұрын
Facts, i agree with nick tho that joe been better as of now but i don't with greg. If i'm a wr i'll go with the cannon arm and with a run game threat
@dwightbooker2224
@dwightbooker2224 Жыл бұрын
Josh Allen is not better than Mahomes at extending plays and running. And I am no fan of Mahomes.
@khaliyl21
@khaliyl21 Жыл бұрын
@@nassiglutt6587 ask diggs that question over the last month. His numbers been terrible.
@fredbetts3514
@fredbetts3514 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Greg Jennings!!
@andregriffin1203
@andregriffin1203 Жыл бұрын
They both are great as a Bengal fan give me Joey B I think he is more consistent but can't go wrong with either
@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685
@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685 Жыл бұрын
you play more consistanly when you dont have a ucl sprain on your elbow
@ringoflynt
@ringoflynt Жыл бұрын
Nick simply put anyone ahead of JA17. Even Josh said Burrow is good. Josh doesn’t care about who’s better, he just wants to win
@TheCephalon
@TheCephalon Ай бұрын
But he doesn’t. So who cares what Allen says
@ringoflynt
@ringoflynt Ай бұрын
@@TheCephalon obviously YOU since you making comments on a post over a year old 🤷🏽‍♂️ 😂😂 like WTF my guy 🤦🏽‍♂️
@krw73
@krw73 Жыл бұрын
Nick's fear of Josh Allen is absolutely unprecedented. He will do anything to avoid a compliment. The fact that Allen went to Wyoming and Burrow won the Heisman is actually a compliment to Allen as one would expect a Heisman winner to be good. He's so blind with fear that he can't even understand his own compliment.
@jasonphillips3796
@jasonphillips3796 Жыл бұрын
What would he be fearful of exactly?
@julian5699
@julian5699 Жыл бұрын
If nick was biased against Allen who he supposedly fears, shouldn’t he fear burrow to the nth degree more?
@krw73
@krw73 Жыл бұрын
@@julian5699 Are you suggesting that he's not biased?
@513hook513
@513hook513 Жыл бұрын
Nick's only concern is not meeting the Bengals in the playoffs. The only other team was the Tom brady patriots that knocked them out of it. His worry is Burrow not Allen
@krw73
@krw73 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonphillips3796 since the beginning of the season he's been obviously annoyed at anything showing Buffalo ranked higher or in any way challenging the Chiefs as the top of the AFC
@TheCatWithTheMAC
@TheCatWithTheMAC Жыл бұрын
“What do you mean? I was talking about Russell Wilson.” 😂😂😂😂😂
@tyleredgeworth5942
@tyleredgeworth5942 Жыл бұрын
Great take from nick
@Shadywho
@Shadywho Жыл бұрын
Nick plays a character and just trolls the Bills and Bills fans.
@Golf05
@Golf05 Жыл бұрын
He's using Stephen A's playbook, who absolutely trolls Da Boys.
@thedualbeaconoflightningdr2317
@thedualbeaconoflightningdr2317 Жыл бұрын
I hope the Bills win! This is the best opportunity for them ever!
@Los150
@Los150 Жыл бұрын
“Burrow is more clutch.” Never ever take Nick Wright seriously when discussing the Bills 😂 Career game winning drives: Josh Allen 14, Joe Burrow 7
@alexdimmick5015
@alexdimmick5015 Жыл бұрын
How many more seasons has Allen been in the league? Clearly you missed that part lol
@Los150
@Los150 Жыл бұрын
@@alexdimmick5015not that many more lol it’s only 2. And according to Nick, Josh was “historically awful” his rookie year so why would I include that in a clutch stat? Not to mention he didn’t come into the league with Jamar Chase as his #1 WR and Joe Mixon behind him. You couldn’t name 2 players on that offense with Allen his first two szns. It’s silly lol
@alexdimmick5015
@alexdimmick5015 Жыл бұрын
@@Los150 burrow didn’t come into the league with chase either? And higgens was rookie right with burrow. Mixon I’ll give you that and Boyd. But they switched out everybody on that team besides Boyd and mixon. Burrow also missed pretty much his whole rookie season due to that injury. So reality this is his second full year
@dranzergigs66
@dranzergigs66 Жыл бұрын
How many AFC championship games has Josh Allen won? Joe Burrow 1, Josh Allen 0
@TheCephalon
@TheCephalon Ай бұрын
Yeah right, and how many times has Josh Allen lost playoff games to burrow and mahomes
@thomasrempe342
@thomasrempe342 Жыл бұрын
Burrow when there is pressure: throw the ball and take the hit. Josh Allen when under pressure: run outside of the pocket and throw a dime 30 yds downfield, across the field while jumping out of bounds.
@tomboard1
@tomboard1 Жыл бұрын
Oh, you mean like exactly what Burrow did last year in the WC game to win the game? Sit down.
@iang7244
@iang7244 Жыл бұрын
@@imissryo 😭 Jesus
@thomasrempe342
@thomasrempe342 Жыл бұрын
@@tomboard1 oh, you mean what josh Allen does on a weekly basis? You sit down.
@thomasrempe342
@thomasrempe342 Жыл бұрын
Josh Allen is similar to Aaron Rodgers and joe burrow is similar to Peyton Manning.
@tomboard1
@tomboard1 Жыл бұрын
@@thomasrempe342 Like throwing INTs?
@rich3637
@rich3637 Жыл бұрын
I miss Broussard for segments like this. I feel like Nick gets his Josh Allen hate off way too easy when Greg is across from him.
@tomboard1
@tomboard1 Жыл бұрын
Nick didn't give Burrow any respect last year until he won in the playoffs and especially when he beat Mahommes. He's said it all along about Allen and the Bills. You have to win something first. If the Bills go to the SB, and they won't, then he'll give them the same amount of respect next year.
@danielventura8118
@danielventura8118 Жыл бұрын
@@tomboard1 oh future teller
@yelsu3358
@yelsu3358 Жыл бұрын
Burrow is better, it's not hate.
@SneakySnake133
@SneakySnake133 Жыл бұрын
@@tomboard1 as if josh Allen played poorly versus mahomes? Allen has a perfext playoff game, burrow and Mahomes do not
@lakeozarkrei3767
@lakeozarkrei3767 Жыл бұрын
Nick has said Allen is elite and on the Mt. Rushmore of NFL QBs... it seems like you may get triggered a little to easily.👍🤣
@mryousif3926
@mryousif3926 Жыл бұрын
replaying this when bills win monday.
@jennifermichalski3043
@jennifermichalski3043 Жыл бұрын
💯
@chrishunt4885
@chrishunt4885 Жыл бұрын
How do you see that happening? Burrow is as good as Allen. Our receivers are better then yours. Our secondary is better then yours we don't let people run very much and your QB throws picks. I mean I understand your a good team but the Bengals are overall better
@ethanjones2008
@ethanjones2008 Жыл бұрын
@@chrishunt4885 barely beat the pats.
@ipetloudog
@ipetloudog Жыл бұрын
@@chrishunt4885 burrow has 1 less pick than Josh this year. God I don't wanna hate you guys but you are making it easy. BURROW HAD 4 PICKS IN 1 GAME AGAINST PITTSBURG, YKNOW, THE TEAM JOSH THREW OVER 400 YARDS AND 4 TDS IN JUST 3 QUARTERS
@whywhyerson9910
@whywhyerson9910 Жыл бұрын
For anyone complaining about rush tds, if you wanna add that then go ahead, but then you gotta add fumbles in too. It doesn’t change anything at all.
@davidvyrostek8215
@davidvyrostek8215 Жыл бұрын
Joe Burrow. Josh has the size, the skills, the running ability and the strong arm. However, an NFL Quarterback is 90% Mental and 10% skills and abilities. Joe is a cerebral tactician on the football field. Don’t believe me? Look at his LSU College game video’s and compare it to the growth he has developed in Cincinnati. Then compare Josh Allen’s College game video from Wyoming. Josh is a fantastic athlete and has an unbelievably strong arm, but intangibles are the difference between a Lombardi Trophy and a Divisional Championship. Thanks
@danielventura8118
@danielventura8118 Жыл бұрын
How many points did he score in the divisional round? His defense failed him
@ShawnTooFamous
@ShawnTooFamous Жыл бұрын
David Vyrostek i want u too know that ur him
@jcZo23
@jcZo23 Жыл бұрын
Allen>Burrow & Allen had 1 of the highest Wonderlick scores ever Nobody can do what Allen does, Nobody, not Mahomes not Burrow Nobody Most physically gifted QB to ever play in the league & he does with far less weapons than Burrow or Mahomes he wills wins like Nobody else Allen is a Unicorn
@solomonrodriguez7565
@solomonrodriguez7565 Жыл бұрын
Allen is better. You know nothing
@mikep3813
@mikep3813 Жыл бұрын
Burrow was throwing to Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson.....naturally he's gonna look quite a bit better. He was highly recruited out of HS and went to a huge school and got great coaching. Josh didn't show any development until he got to Buffalo under Brian Dabol and had possibly the greatest 1 year leap of any QB in NFL history. And so you know.....neither has won that Lombardi trophy you speak of so his intangibles haven't gotten him much farther than Josh's natural skills and lack of intangibles. And these "intangibles" you speak of....can be learned over time. The natural arm strength and running ability Burrow will never have.
@user-yx3by4we1w
@user-yx3by4we1w Жыл бұрын
They are completely different personalities as well😊😊 Burrow is calculated and meticulous cool under pressure genius Allen is the brave undefeatist intimidating and vicious.
@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685
@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685 Жыл бұрын
you cant even give burrow that hes good under pressure, allen is the highest rated quarterback under pressure so he takes that.
@user-yx3by4we1w
@user-yx3by4we1w Жыл бұрын
@@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685 you can definitely say they both are good Burrow got a little farther tho when it mattered most
@tonygonzalez9882
@tonygonzalez9882 Жыл бұрын
@@user-yx3by4we1w That was thanks to their defense holding the chiefs the second half. Allen outplayed mahomes and still lost cuz their defense didnt play good that game
@DcLoki12
@DcLoki12 Жыл бұрын
@@tonygonzalez9882 Allen beat an awful defence, mahomes played the rank one. He has never outplayed mahomes and never will. He can have better games as he's playing against an inferior unit every time
@DcLoki12
@DcLoki12 Жыл бұрын
Allen looks like he's going to cry when he's down, Joe is a leader, Allen is too emotional, when he's playing poorly he tries to hero ball and rush everytime
@josephnorris4095
@josephnorris4095 Жыл бұрын
I will take Josh Allen because I am a Bills fan, through and through. However, I would also take him because he has shown he can improve when he needs to and can overcome, even when he makes a mistake. He is a winner because he never quits.
@YRNTayy513
@YRNTayy513 Жыл бұрын
And burrow doesn’t?
@Drkon6
@Drkon6 Жыл бұрын
Josh Allen definitely has the legs and grit, but I'll take Burrows accuracy and playmaking style any day. I'm a Bengal, but two great QBs.
@reggie7408
@reggie7408 Жыл бұрын
Burrow is the more consistent passer. Allen is a physical freak. It’s close but I’ll favor Allen’s
@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685
@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685 Жыл бұрын
they also dont mention how josh allen plays half the games in buffalo were the weather is terrible. he has also not being consistent because he had an injury on his elbow.
@ericm.3054
@ericm.3054 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait 😅
@brianrasmussen4314
@brianrasmussen4314 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what Nick would say if Mahomes was actually drafted by the bills and Allen was drafted by the Chiefs what his opinion would be
@Los150
@Los150 Жыл бұрын
He’d nickname Josh Allen The Winter Soldier and use graphics of muppets when discussing Mahomes
@diehardeaglesfansince1994
@diehardeaglesfansince1994 Жыл бұрын
Even before my Eagles had Jalen hurts I used to hate when people would discount rushing touchdowns and rushing yards as if they don't count exactly the same as it's counterpart
@bp6421
@bp6421 Жыл бұрын
Why do they show rushing for the yards but not part of the td?
@al_s93
@al_s93 Жыл бұрын
They did not include rushing TDs???? That's why Allen is better he accounts for 80% of the Bills scoring as the #2 scoring offense on the NFL.
@captainamericaamerica8090
@captainamericaamerica8090 Жыл бұрын
He has to.
@AppaJoos
@AppaJoos Жыл бұрын
We need Broussard for this debate
@williamwever4489
@williamwever4489 Жыл бұрын
Wrong question. Which of the two have the best skills to make the other 10 players better....and which of the two have defensive players to keep them off the bench. PLUS which have the better special team players to get good field position. I won't mention coaches but that can be thought out.....One thing, never mentioned , but how much edge would home field advantage give those quarterbacks ....Should not be mentioned but what will the betting dollar say about this contest.
@kgthegreatone943
@kgthegreatone943 Жыл бұрын
2022 flew by
@DeportillegalAliens
@DeportillegalAliens Жыл бұрын
I'm a Bengals fan I say push for now...theres not enough separation in my opinion to decide who's better.
@Haloguyxboxftw
@Haloguyxboxftw Жыл бұрын
I agree, although I feel like Josh Allen is a lot more streaky
@xmusic1576
@xmusic1576 Жыл бұрын
@@Haloguyxboxftw not making an argument against Joe because I think it’s even but a lot of Josh being “streaky” has to do with him being the entire offense. Joe having Tee Higgins as a wr 2 and Joe Mixon as a RB makes a drastic difference.
@papeboy_nardo2822
@papeboy_nardo2822 Жыл бұрын
@@xmusic1576 but when Joe mixon and tee Higgins weren’t playing burrow was still dominating
@xmusic1576
@xmusic1576 Жыл бұрын
@@papeboy_nardo2822 they are all elite they can play well without their guys but a few games for a stretch is much different then forever. It’s really Mixon, having a scary run game is the best gift you can give a QB. Like I said I think they are even but Burrow is definitely playing with a lot more help which is a big reason why Allen may seem a bit more erratic. The difference between having a run game and BEING the run game is significant.
@ShinobiXXXBDO
@ShinobiXXXBDO Жыл бұрын
Love when ppl talk about the Bills being loaded on Offense.... name me one superstar talent on our offense other then Diggs.... dont worry ill wait... o thats right we dont have anyone else... davis is super inconsistent, same with Mackenzie... run game is avg at best... even knox is a know pass dropper, but a good talent... its not like we have Higgins and Chase... we were hoping thats what gabe davis would be, but not the case... then it was gunna be OBJ... not the case.... also when Nick talks about how bad Allen has played most of this season, is only a detrement to his argument for Mahomes,,, what it mean when he says Mahomes has played Spectacular ALL YEAr, and Allen has played terrible year yet Bills are the #1 seed, so is he saying even Josh Allen playing terrible is still better then Mahomes at his best... i dunno
@gatorboy21king
@gatorboy21king Жыл бұрын
I think the point that Josh can do more with his legs is why I’d take him over Joe rn tbh but the fact that the debate is so close is just a testament to the AFC QBs we got for the next decade
@tomboard1
@tomboard1 Жыл бұрын
Allen doesn't have a decade the way he plays. He's got maybe three more years and then he'll be one of those 14 great weeks and then injured the rest of the way QBs. That's the way it goes in the NFL.
@Y2K2PointO
@Y2K2PointO Жыл бұрын
@@tomboard1 I love Josh, but I’m inclined to agree. We thought Cam’s size would save him, but TJ Watt ended that notion. If Josh matures and stays under 100 Carries in a season, he has a chance to stay healthy and be generational. Burrow also runs quite a bit. ALlEN has 115 Carries, Burrow has 72. Josh needs to slide and avoid the hits though. The effects are cumulative. Doesn’t change the fact that a healthy Josh ALlEN is as dangerous as anyone
@YRNTayy513
@YRNTayy513 Жыл бұрын
Josh Allen won’t be able to use his legs his whole career
@cndnclassics5874
@cndnclassics5874 Жыл бұрын
I could already hear nicks voice saying burrows, burrows, burrowsbefore watchign the vid lool
@elmalloc
@elmalloc Жыл бұрын
Great hairday Nick!
@soundstosleepto1622
@soundstosleepto1622 Жыл бұрын
Burrow is a great quarterback Allen is a great football player
@jasonphillips3796
@jasonphillips3796 Жыл бұрын
Never has a QB won a SUPER BOWL by being a great “football player”
@chadpowers8842
@chadpowers8842 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonphillips3796 Brett Favre, Big Ben. Josh Allen is much more than a great qb. He's the embodiment of what football is supposed to be.
@yoursodumn
@yoursodumn Жыл бұрын
@@jasonphillips3796 ever heard of Steve Young? Lol Jesus do a basic check before looking like an idiot
@trequanwilliams7482
@trequanwilliams7482 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonphillips3796 tell me you don’t watch football without telling me you don’t watch football 😂
@jasonphillips3796
@jasonphillips3796 Жыл бұрын
@@chadpowers8842 First off Brett Favre and Big Ben are both pass first QBs which proves my point. 2nd Josh Allen isn’t even in the same universe as those guys? 🤣 Last 10 weeks he’s ranked 30th in completion percentage and 26th in QBR (tell me how he’s injured) He just isn’t good enough at taking over a game with his arm to beat Burrow and Mahomes consistently!
@52baldingindianjanitor72
@52baldingindianjanitor72 Жыл бұрын
I'm taking Joe Cool
@nathanieljackson7647
@nathanieljackson7647 Жыл бұрын
Jennings, Wright, and Wildes are just the best there is. We missing brou rn who’s supposed to argue against nick??
@aaronyi4052
@aaronyi4052 Жыл бұрын
I’ve said this on another video, the bengals and bills fans have made a fun friendship. Just want it to continue after this game. Who-dey!!
@andrewbishop4447
@andrewbishop4447 Жыл бұрын
How are you gonna say burrow is second to mahomes When burrow beat mahomes every time the two met
@loganleroy8622
@loganleroy8622 Жыл бұрын
I don't know that's it's really fair to say that Burrow beat Mahomes. The Bengals have beaten the Chiefs 3 times, but Mahomes isn't playing on the defensive side of the ball trying to stop the Bengals' offense. Each guy is having to face an entirely different defensive challenge.
@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685
@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685 Жыл бұрын
lamar is undefeated against brady that means hes the undisputed GOAT.
@andrewbishop4447
@andrewbishop4447 Жыл бұрын
@@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685 burrow is undefeated against brady too lol
@andrewbishop4447
@andrewbishop4447 Жыл бұрын
@@loganleroy8622 i know what you mean but burrow is proving to be the better qb overall Doesnt make as many mistakes Dude is locked in and disciplined Mahomes is more freestyle athletic type If im drafting between mahomes and burrow im takin burrow everytime
@pipinghotarbys3079
@pipinghotarbys3079 Жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong with either, but to me Allen has done more with less.
@user_017
@user_017 Жыл бұрын
Lol. He's had a top 5 recieving corps for at least the last 2 years... Neither of those QBs is struggling for weapons.
@almightyderic527
@almightyderic527 Жыл бұрын
Explain please? 😂 when Allen had less he was a bottom 10 QB
@pipinghotarbys3079
@pipinghotarbys3079 Жыл бұрын
@@user_017 Diggs is the only true threat they have. Go position by position and tell me where you think Allen has the weapons edge
@pipinghotarbys3079
@pipinghotarbys3079 Жыл бұрын
@@imissryo I said has done more with less.
@pipinghotarbys3079
@pipinghotarbys3079 Жыл бұрын
@@imissryo equally bad offensive line, worse wide outs. worse and equal te's. More with less
@asmeroe764
@asmeroe764 Жыл бұрын
Looks like we will never know
@maxklug627
@maxklug627 Жыл бұрын
The fact is: Allen is not that consistent over the season. But if he is on top of his game, he is the best qb right now
@Y2K2PointO
@Y2K2PointO Жыл бұрын
I mean, he consistently wins games, and consistently does enough to overcome his mistakes
@josephdunham2628
@josephdunham2628 Жыл бұрын
I am cardinal fan but I tell u there something special about joe b he will have more titles at the end his career then mahomes .
@gathogojuma496
@gathogojuma496 Жыл бұрын
The Josh Allen slander continues
@xcwilliams7980
@xcwilliams7980 Жыл бұрын
I don't think I heard 2 negative things said about Josh in the whole segment
@stevej.7926
@stevej.7926 Жыл бұрын
Man. This is tough. I’m a Bills fan. And I’ll say this: Josh Allen is THE best QB for THIS city. That’s all I care about. GO BILLS BABY!!!
@Staqrick
@Staqrick Жыл бұрын
Nick Wright doesn’t seem like he’s ever played football in his life
@jonmcintyre
@jonmcintyre Жыл бұрын
Of course he hasn't. He's like 4'7" and 95 lbs. We still love him though.
@olivercrespo2329
@olivercrespo2329 Жыл бұрын
Burrow any day of the week.
@mmacwebb7306
@mmacwebb7306 Жыл бұрын
Both of QB are team player. They make effort with O line and decent for playing football. Also they are from good decent American family
@alant9517
@alant9517 Жыл бұрын
We are about to have 3 qbs that go for over 5k yards this season. Unreal
@milballs
@milballs Жыл бұрын
If it comes to that josh at least has the ability to escape and lengthen plays instead of running for positive yards on broken plays. If the Bengals o-line takes a step back I don't see how eating sacks 3 meals a day the way burrow did last year is sustainable health-wise either
@TDR-0484
@TDR-0484 Жыл бұрын
Got him to a Super Bowl though now didn't it? Can Joshy say the same? I didn't think so 🤣
@jacksonklark6119
@jacksonklark6119 Жыл бұрын
@@TDR-0484 lost it
@PokeKrazy
@PokeKrazy Жыл бұрын
@@jacksonklark6119by one play! And burrow beat the chiefs after the bills lost to them to get there!
@newzinski6946
@newzinski6946 Жыл бұрын
@@PokeKrazy nobody cares about 2nd place. If you can't get it done then you worked the entire season to come up short aka don't meet expectations. Both QBS are top tier the main issue I have with Allen and Burrow is that all the hits on Allen will add up eventually, but on the other hand Burow has taken worse hits since his o-line was garbo for quite some time and already had major knee issues whereas Allen has not. We've seen knee and ankle injuries for QBs can have a compounding effect
@LuminateTheWorld
@LuminateTheWorld Жыл бұрын
@@newzinski6946 I'm sure both of them aren't gonna last 10+ years. Both of these teams should just get rid of them for some fresh young talent that they can turn into a franchise for 15+ years like Brady and Rogers. Everyone knows that's what really matters. Also, no one cares about finishing in 5th either.
@wildernesswolff9350
@wildernesswolff9350 Жыл бұрын
The choice is obviously Burrow
@maloshotit3954
@maloshotit3954 Жыл бұрын
I am trying to tell a story about football life! 😂😂😂😂😂
@Dragracingduleist
@Dragracingduleist Жыл бұрын
Josh Allen Easily. The difference is josh can do everything joe can do, joe cant do everything josh can do.
@hjean7789
@hjean7789 Жыл бұрын
Josh Allen has been a great passer since 2020 all the way up to until his injured his elbow in that jets game. Its weird how nick seems to downplay how much that elbow injury has affected Allen’s passing.
@lordbudlett6520
@lordbudlett6520 Жыл бұрын
Half of what that wet Rat says is nonsense. He doesn’t even understand how and why rushing TD’s and yards contribute to a win. He’s talking about the longevity of a QB but apparently hasn’t looked at Burrow’s injury history.
@jonathanhoward8608
@jonathanhoward8608 Жыл бұрын
Nick can’t win, because when he points out the elbow leading Josh’s poor play (check the tape) Bru and Wildes downplay the elbow and say “we’ll the Bills are still winning” And Bro…check Josh Allen’s stats last year. He was a turnover machine every other game. Why do you think the Bills beat the Chiefs then lost the 1 see later in the season. It’s because Josh played awful and they had some bad losses….it’s where the Allen Magic Mountain rollercoaster bit came from.
@carterpayte9463
@carterpayte9463 Жыл бұрын
@@juststop022 It is so obviously mahomes
@YRNTayy513
@YRNTayy513 Жыл бұрын
Yea but not better then burrow as a passer
@hjean7789
@hjean7789 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanhoward8608 what does last year have to do with anything? Josh Allen gave the team a lead with 13 seconds left on the clock and the defense couldn’t stop the chiefs. That is the story of the bills season last year. Josh Allen was sensational when it mattered in that game. So I don’t understand your point about the 1 seed, etc…. The discussion is about this year and how much the injury has affected Allen’s throwing ability and accuracy.
@blackmamba3060
@blackmamba3060 Жыл бұрын
Josh Allen had one of the best QB performances ever and lost to the Chiefs. Joe B had 4 straight mediocre performances and almost won the superbowl on the back of his defense. Its clear Nick fears the Bills more because he know if the Bills win it would mean that Allen has a legitimate argument against Mahomes whereas Burrow could easily be discredited because its unlikely a Bengals win comes with him dominating in the playoffs.
@dranzergigs66
@dranzergigs66 Жыл бұрын
His performance was only "mediocre" because of his awful o-line. He was the most sacked QB in football. So given that he was able to put enough points to win games and make the Superbowl in his first full season(coming off of an acl injury). I seem to remember him being down at half against the chiefs because his defense couldn't stop Mahomes in the first half, then coming out strong I'm the second half to ultimately tie the game. His defense was surprisingly clutch in the playoffs but let's not act like Burrow didn't play well given his circumstances.
@user-cr4ml2rp6w
@user-cr4ml2rp6w Жыл бұрын
Lol, discounting a QBs rushing yards is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
@johnniegamblejr.3317
@johnniegamblejr.3317 Жыл бұрын
So we're knocking what Allen did and is doing based on what you think may happen in the future?
@Leo-tf7gu
@Leo-tf7gu Жыл бұрын
Joe Burrow can afford to be "cool" because he has great offensive weapons. Josh Allen carries the weight of his team most of the time. Mahomes also carries the weight of his team but not most of the time.
@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685
@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685 Жыл бұрын
joe burrow is so overrated and cant get out of a sack to save his life. he is not athletic like allen and is not as good of a passer as mahomes, he has an okay arm and good accuracy, that sounds a lot like tua but tua is placed way under and burrow is being compared to brady.
@crusher9165
@crusher9165 Жыл бұрын
Lmao someone has never watched burrow play. He breaks sacks more than most qbs. He’s deadly accurate and cool under pressure.
@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685
@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685 Жыл бұрын
@@crusher9165 allen is the highets ranked qb under pressure this year.
@captainamericaamerica8090
@captainamericaamerica8090 Жыл бұрын
@@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685 we will know more Monday
@Leo-tf7gu
@Leo-tf7gu Жыл бұрын
@@captainamericaamerica8090 Bengals has a better offensive lineup. So no surprise if they win. Also home field advantage.
@Dilly_Dilly_Dale
@Dilly_Dilly_Dale Жыл бұрын
Joe burrow has lost more superbowls then Josh allen
@slipk0rvayne17
@slipk0rvayne17 Жыл бұрын
tough question both are good but ill have to pick Joe cool
@Pizzatird
@Pizzatird Жыл бұрын
"It's just what you do" perfect explanation for that clown
@danielburdisso1483
@danielburdisso1483 Жыл бұрын
Both qbs are about the same but Josh Allen gets the edge
@danielburdisso1483
@danielburdisso1483 Жыл бұрын
@@imissryo he has more wins than Burrow tho so you’re still wrong
@justc1re617
@justc1re617 Жыл бұрын
I think Joe is better but honestly I hate how Nick just acts like Allen's ability to run is a downside. It isn't. It just means their styles of play are different. They are the 2nd and 3rd best qbs in football and imo the order doesn't rlly matter bc they are pretty close in ability to one another
@johnbrowntheprophet
@johnbrowntheprophet Жыл бұрын
People have roundly criticized Cam Newton and Lamar Jackson for their running styles. Why shouldn’t Josh Allen be subjected to the same scrutiny? Because he’s a *WHITE* running quarterback? 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️🙄🤦🏻‍♂️
@phantomsiege5097
@phantomsiege5097 Жыл бұрын
@@johnbrowntheprophet Your race baiting is making you come off as looking like a racist btw.
@bondsgoat25
@bondsgoat25 Жыл бұрын
@@johnbrowntheprophet no because he has passing abilities, everyone laughs about the criticism towards allen because we know he’s gonna be a great “Passer” for years to come!
@izzydonuts4217
@izzydonuts4217 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Nick should lose his Mr. Consistency title off this or it should be framed far differently 🤔
@ryancorrea8936
@ryancorrea8936 Жыл бұрын
Nick is gold lol
@TRicks-lq1sl
@TRicks-lq1sl Жыл бұрын
Nick fears Josh Allen in a major way.
@Awsme_J
@Awsme_J Жыл бұрын
Why would he when burrow has beaten mahomes twice
@ShinobiXXXBDO
@ShinobiXXXBDO Жыл бұрын
@@Awsme_J so has Allen
@TRicks-lq1sl
@TRicks-lq1sl Жыл бұрын
@AWSME J How does that help him when he plays the Bills? Allen should have beaten him in the playoffs at home last year. Beat him this year, at home as well.
@iiTzMoPZii
@iiTzMoPZii Жыл бұрын
Give me Allen any day of the week!
@anthonyg1779
@anthonyg1779 Жыл бұрын
I’m a Vikings fan and I’d take Burrow over Allen. Burrow has the “it factor” that you just can’t explain
@readmelancholystrumpetmaster
@readmelancholystrumpetmaster Жыл бұрын
At least Bills fans have a real villain.
@onthemoney8356
@onthemoney8356 Жыл бұрын
Nick is just superb for NFL TV. I mean he's so entertaining so likeable and so intelligent with his takes. It also helps he's a Chiefs fan!
@jcZo23
@jcZo23 Жыл бұрын
LoL No He's nothing more than a wrestling heal talking nonsense for clicks like Skip Bayless
@soggythestinkydungsniffing962
@soggythestinkydungsniffing962 Жыл бұрын
*DONT LET THE FACT THAT JOE BURROW AND TOM BRADY ARE BOTH PATRICK POOHOMES’S DADDY DISTRACT U FROM THE FACT THAT JOSH ALLEN, IS IN FACT, ALSO PATRICK POOHOMES’S DADDY*
@soggythestinkydungsniffing962
@soggythestinkydungsniffing962 Жыл бұрын
@@imissryo *DONT LET THE FACT THAT JOE BURROW AND TOM BRADY ARE BOTH PATRICK POOHOMES’S DADDY DISTRACT U FROM THE FACT THAT JOSH ALLEN, IS IN FACT, ALSO PATRICK POOHOMES’S DADDY*
@mikep3813
@mikep3813 Жыл бұрын
@@jjoffthejuice7391 his number are nearly identical to Burrows over the past year. His whole argument is based off of what might happen 5 years down the line if he doesn't learn to take less hits. And a bit of an exaggeration saying he runs 15 times a game.....try averaging only 7 over the past 3 years, with kneels downs included in that. Whatever it takes to support his take.
@datbul
@datbul Жыл бұрын
Nick actually isn't that likable... which, in a weird way, actually ends up making him likable
@TheKlutchsletsplays
@TheKlutchsletsplays Жыл бұрын
The first graphic is literally blatantly false. Allen has 7 rushing touchdowns on top of 32 passing, so he has 5 more total TD’s than Burrow
@tgs5725
@tgs5725 Жыл бұрын
They didn't count rushing TDs because you cant throw an INT while rushing so it would inflate number when doing a TD/INT ratio -_- Go look at Lamar jackson or Jalen Hurts and they would look like the best QBs to ever play if you added their positive rushing stats
@TheKlutchsletsplays
@TheKlutchsletsplays Жыл бұрын
@@tgs5725 the rushing stats should be included if that’s a major part of a qb’s game. First of all, they can also turn the ball over on a rush by fumbling, which Nick loves to point out when Josh Allen does. Second, if the TD-int ratio bothers you, then only include passing TD’s when you’re showing TD-int ratio, but this was supposed to be a total yards and TD’s graphic. Just admit it was the producers being misleading to push a narrative
@tgs5725
@tgs5725 Жыл бұрын
@TheKlutchsletsplays no it wasn't. The "total yards" category was highlighted in white/silver and the legend at the bottom explained that it included rushing yards. The TD/INT ratio didn't claim it was total TDs. The graph was very clear.
@TheKlutchsletsplays
@TheKlutchsletsplays Жыл бұрын
@@tgs5725 Even still, Allen's running is a huge part of his game, and to not show that he had 7 rush TD's, especially given that so many have come in clutch moments, is leaving out a huge aspect of what makes him good. If you include Lamar and Hurts' rushing yards, they actually still have fewer total yards than Allen.
@ShinobiXXXBDO
@ShinobiXXXBDO Жыл бұрын
@@tgs5725 no as Allen already had more passing yards then lamar had passing and rushing in his mvp year... jsut stop
@keithmcgregor3330
@keithmcgregor3330 Жыл бұрын
I hope Josh the Bills and go all the way this year
@baroody421
@baroody421 Жыл бұрын
I agree with what they're sayin about the passing, but I don't know if it would be true if you swap the WRs on the team. Throwing to Chase, Higgins, Boyd is a lot different than Diggs, Davis, McKenzie.. not taking nothing away from Joe, he'd be great either way but Josh with those 3 + the off script ability. yikes
@leekautz2926
@leekautz2926 Жыл бұрын
They're both tough as nails. Unafraid of contact. Unlike my former QB carrbage. I'd take burrow though.
@krw73
@krw73 Жыл бұрын
So basically, Josh Allen is performing equal or better than a #1 overall pic and Heisman winner. GREAT JOB JOSH!!
@samuelgaona7196
@samuelgaona7196 Жыл бұрын
Josh Allen had two years before Burrow and Burrow was injured and had to go through all the covid stuff as a rookie 💀even through that his first three years are better than Allen's first three years
@Nastynati0513
@Nastynati0513 Жыл бұрын
Josh Allen may run alot more and be better at it than Burrow but he has the same amount of fumbles as rushing touchdowns. Plus he seems to struggle against zone. Burrow is among the best in the league against zone.
@513hook513
@513hook513 Жыл бұрын
They have to put total yards and tds to help Allen's case. In being an actual QB Burrow is absolutely better.
@davidhampton4508
@davidhampton4508 Жыл бұрын
Josh has more than any other QB in the NFL right now and that is GRIT. He never gives up, never. Go Josh!
@wesleyball1205
@wesleyball1205 Жыл бұрын
Yes but this will hurt Josh in the long run. Josh takes so much unnecessary punishment.
@davidhampton4508
@davidhampton4508 Жыл бұрын
As we are seeing with Damar, everthing is a risk, especially when it comes to this sport. God bless Damar and his family.
@danz1182
@danz1182 Жыл бұрын
Josh Allen has 500 more rushing yards this year than Joe Burrow. He has about 200 less passing yards, but he played in much uglier conditions in more games. Not sure a pure passing comparison is really apples to apples given where they have played their games.
@tomboard1
@tomboard1 Жыл бұрын
Joe Burrow is a QB. They don't pay him millions to rush the ball. That's what RBs do. Allen has a lot of rushing yards because he doesn't see the field as well or process as fast as Burrow.
@Solstare
@Solstare Жыл бұрын
@@tomboard1 wrong, Josh Allen is just better
@tomboard1
@tomboard1 Жыл бұрын
@@Solstare When, in his life, has he ever won more than Burrow? Has he won a Heisman? Has he won a major bowl? Has he won a national championship? Has he won the AFC? Has he been to the SB? How is he just better?
@Solstare
@Solstare Жыл бұрын
@@tomboard1 burrow has 1 more significant win and that’s playing in a Super Bowl, that he then lost. Big deal 😂 Allen had better stats last year and more wins. And will end the year this year with better stats and more wins again. He also put up way better numbers last year in the playoffs and it wasn’t even close. Burrows gonna take the L Monday and you’ll go home with your tail tucked
@tomboard1
@tomboard1 Жыл бұрын
@@Solstare Allen lost to Mahomes. Burrow didn't. You can make any excuse you like but the cold, hard facts and box score says you'll talk in circles trying to say otherwise.
@steezyvert4579
@steezyvert4579 Жыл бұрын
Burrow
@diehardeaglesfansince1994
@diehardeaglesfansince1994 Жыл бұрын
That is a hard question to answer but I think I would go with Josh Allen by the slimmest of margins possible
@markglaviano9455
@markglaviano9455 Жыл бұрын
The AFC has the best QB'S in the league. These two are great! Two bad they both will be watching the Super bowl from home 😉
@pRODIGAL_sKEPTIC
@pRODIGAL_sKEPTIC Жыл бұрын
Wow Nick went an entire segment without throwing any shade at the Bengals
@trequanwilliams7482
@trequanwilliams7482 Жыл бұрын
Cause the segment included Josh allen
@Vincy227
@Vincy227 Жыл бұрын
@@trequanwilliams7482 exactly, Nick hates Allen n will only mention stats to support his argument. Plus Nick needs a haircut, nothing wrong with guys having long hair but Nick just can’t pull it off.
@dranzergigs66
@dranzergigs66 Жыл бұрын
@@Vincy227 I would say it's because Mahomes isn't an option and Burrow is. Nick seems to like Burrow.
@kaza_family5950
@kaza_family5950 Жыл бұрын
Allen is perfect for buffalo burrow is perfect for cinci like mahomes is perfect for kansas city lol.
@RefundHD
@RefundHD Жыл бұрын
If you say so but i rather have Mahomes if im building my franchise, 2nd Burrow
@nugerzdev87
@nugerzdev87 Жыл бұрын
Bills!!!🎉
@Ziiro11
@Ziiro11 Жыл бұрын
I love my bengals but to be as unbiased as I possible can be, yes josh Allen had a elbow injury so it’s definitely playing into his passing game but burrow came back from a ACL and MCL tear that wasn’t completely healed until at least week 5 and was 35 lbs underweight and led the bengals to a Super Bowl Allen has yet to do that. They are both extremely dangerous QB’s but I gotta take burrow just because he’s resilient with injuries he plays through it and gets the job done. I would take both of them on a team if I could.
@larrylindgren9484
@larrylindgren9484 Жыл бұрын
Burrow and it's not even close. He's better at playing QB. Allen is a better runner. One day that's going to end his career ask Cam about running over people. You don't last long running over defenders. It's why RBs shelf life is so short. They get beaten right out of the league. Allen will be no different than Cam.
@BeeKay2715
@BeeKay2715 Жыл бұрын
8 years of 14+ games🎉 is a long time in the league running over people S longer than the life span of the average QB
@joepic85
@joepic85 Жыл бұрын
A "runner" guy throws for 4000+ 2 straight years lol
@justintyndall4737
@justintyndall4737 Жыл бұрын
joe burrow had 5 passing tds in 4 playoff games, wow that’s lighting it up lol, they made the superbowl cause of their D
@kelvinjettsr633
@kelvinjettsr633 Жыл бұрын
Stop it! Burrow been sack 15 times and still made it to the SB!
@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685
@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685 Жыл бұрын
@@kelvinjettsr633 allen had 9 td/0 ints in 2 playoff games, burrow had 5tds/2int in 4 playoff games. if you wanna credit him for going to superbowl thats okay but hes not better than allen.
@captainamericaamerica8090
@captainamericaamerica8090 Жыл бұрын
@@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685 we will know more this Monday
@rickyv7757
@rickyv7757 Жыл бұрын
Burrow was statistically average last post season but to be fair, the o-line was poor. Let's see what happens this year.
@johnniegamblejr.3317
@johnniegamblejr.3317 Жыл бұрын
Is stephon diggs not a top 5 receiver
@madelynstorms4609
@madelynstorms4609 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t it funny I don’t even have to watch this to know who Nick Wright picked.
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