Billy Campbell penetrates the Enterprise! - TNG: The Outrageous Okona - Season 2, Episode 4

[@jeepxj1988]

These are great. I'm glad they've been putting the full length podcasts on here.

[@ScotSteam47]

we need to get them more views, recommended these to my friends.

[@CaptainOfAverages]

The Dash Rendar callout was perfect.

[@nicholastrascik705]

In a Ds9 episode you find out that you can just take a monthly shot as protection. The shot can be reversed by another shot at any time.

[@qsquared8833]

Makes sense I always assumed this too, neat to find out it's Cannon tho!! Nice tidbit Nicholas

[@nicholastrascik705]

@@qsquared8833 but the captain in ds9 still has to deal with an unplanned pregnancy since the writers wrote that they both some how forget there injections that month

[@qsquared8833]

@@nicholastrascik705 that's hilarious

[@ammosophobia]

But the transporter makes a great "Plan B" .... ask Keiko

[@nicholastrascik705]

@@ammosophobia awe man he can just do his thing and transport out any unwanted pregnancy...... that plan B?

[@makzjameson]

As a robot, Data doesn't feel emotions, this sometimes makes him very sad.

[@darylschmigel8051]

In the background you should put one of those signs about work days with accidents 😃

[@qsquared8833]

Agreed, I and in almost every episode of the podcast it gets reset to 0. XD

[@Whiston555]

The comedy b plot is weird because all the jokes feel like they’re simultaneously portrayed as being both really hacky/shitty but also genuinely great

[@justrobYT]

Why does Ricardo hate so many awesome things?

[@Sagitarria]

The best Star Trek episodes are Shakespearean. Not in the quote Shakespeare, but in that they work as little Shakespeare plays back in the mid-2000s there was a theater troop in Portland Oregon that did a different TOS episode every year and they would have trek in the park. With people cheering when Spock walked out and that kind of stuff. One year it was mirror mirror another year or it was amok time and another. It was trouble with Tribbles. He was really great and the screen plays for TOS worked perfectly as little stage plays

[@davidharshman7645]

I think the writer for the Data portion of the episode was Lieutenant Hauk from Good Morning Vietnam...just a very unfunny guy that is convinced their writing is surefire proof that everyone is wrong about them being unfunny...😅

[@wjzav1971]

I always took the B Plot of this episode as a message of "Humor cannot be understood. It can only be felt"

[@donaldthomas4399]

What a great take. 🎉

[@Buretsu]

To me, the moral of the comedy bit is that humor needs to be more organic, whereas Data is parsing it more as 10: Make joke 20: Receive Laughter 30: Go to 10. Which is why he gets laughs when he's not trying to be funny, like the "Goodbye Data" bit at the end, or where he gets a laugh from Geordie over his "includling the kidleys" gaff.

[@risingnarratives]

In Voyager they mention that birth control is actually just a monthly injection apparently

[@Bombpier]

Yea her voice was odd

[@carlosrvra]

Joe Piscopo is funnier than this episode would leave you to believe. But as far as Data's comedy B-plot, rather than have ONE comic, I think it should have been two or three, with different styles. One old vaudevillian (which is basically where Data landed), one prop comic, and one modern day comic. And I don't know how they could've done it, but it seems strange that they don't somehow have Whoopi play herself as the modern day comic since she's already in the ep, rather than Guinan. Explain it away with "You look like someone I know" // "Yeah, I have one of those faces... ANYWAY...". (OR... Guinan gets one of her besties like ROBIN WILLIAMS, BILLY CRYSTAL, BOBCAT GOTHWAIT, or one of her many other famous standup friends to cameo). Then, near the end of the plot, Data does a recital of sorts where he tries to mix all three styles, he messes up, and the crew ends up laughing at some unintentional thing he does... like dropping his props and tearing whatever outfit he had on or something like that. PS... "Take my Worf... please!" is funny as f**k, I don't care WHO ya' are. 😄

[@rebeccatrishel]

How can you still not remember Deanna Troi?

[@nicholastrascik705]

Love it game recognize game

[@qsquared8833]

1) Bones has a woman re-grow her kidney in StarTrek IV, which I believe is what you are continuing to reference here as "cures cancer" since you explicitly mixed this up as being the case in the previous eppisodes. (I know, been saying this since like eppisodes 1, but I'm probably going to keep repeating until someone finally says it right and then I'll give "mad props" to you.... To borrow a terrible phrase from my youth) 2) I think that Whoopie Goldberg is being an arbiter of what is funny because the writers were both somewhat Lazy and also expecting that in context in 1989/1990 EVERYONE would just know that Whoopie Goldberg was a famous comedian and actress, and leaning on that as a "well it's going to happen/we want to write her in/people will expect it" sort of thing. I hated Joe Piscapo, even as a kid he's not funny, super non-funny, it didn't make sense to me how he broke into Jerry Louis, but, now knowing they wanted Jerry Louis it makes more sense. I always thought that it was a strange pic from all of the comedians they could have picked, why wouldn't the computer putultiple comedians giving differing inputs all at once, that would be funny (but then data would actually be able to listen and respond to them all at once , because Data, and then DATA could pick one as a specific mentor, and do the thing hoe is doing, where it's all over the place, and it would be funny because it was Data's poor attempt to combine everything into one! That would be comedy! Then Joe Piscapo could be trying to get him to see it was not funny (except To us the audience as meta humor of course) and give a head -shaking / head in hand / palm to fore-head slapstick reaction to data which would be funny and say "we have our work cut out for us!" In exasperation. 3) You guys are totally right that out of context the clip is much funnier tho, and maybe this was a larger sequence cut down which at the time out of context seemed funnier but in the eppisodes didn't work. 4) I thought for a good few minutes of this that you were saying it was Bill Campbell, of Evil Dead, and Burn Notice fame, who is also quite a charismatic guy, which would be a TOTALLY amazing alternate reality TNG to watch with Bill Campbell as 1st officer.

[@londonsmith1990]

Bruce Campbell of Evil Dead.

[@davidharshman7645]

Frankly, by this point, Brent Spiner is pretty well known as a comedian, too. He was hilarious in Night Court, as an example. It takes real work for the writers to overcome that for Data yo not be funny.

[@donaldthomas4399]

I always thought Guinian telling him to give up on it was more a matter of you can't force funny. You just have to let funny happen

[@ScotSteam47]

Ye pretty forgettable episode in my opinion apart from the frustrated Picard.

[@gearcheck101]

If you wondered what he's saying in the scene where they speed up his speaking. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoXMap2Bgb6Cnbs ^why you couldn't let Joe be Joe.

[@parkergent5294]

Love their Star Trek stuff but taste in other movies is HORRIBLE

[@TooRudeProductions]

I've never seen the comic but the only thing I hate more than that Scott Pilgrim movie is the fans of that damn movie.

[@valueofnothing2487]

Not outrageous at all.

[@WideNerdy]

You think Guinan's droid annoyed joke is bad? You should hear the original one they wanted her to tell. I learned about this from Star Trek critic SFDebris. Here goes: My job places me under some obligations, like a vow of secrecy. I can't repeat anything I hear or see. Now the obligation of the patron is to tell the truth. Otherwise I'm being placed under a commitment to keep a secret about nothing. That's not fair, it's called 'wasted honor'! You understand?" I have no idea what supposed to be funny about that or how you're supposed to deliver a joke like that. I think Whoopi Goldberg saw that joke and decided to replace a bizarre joke with one that was at least recognizably an attempt at humor but as a comedian she didn't want to give up her good material when she wasn't being paid for that. Fun fact, Whoopi Goldberg agreed to work for scale to be on the show. She really wanted to be on Star Trek.