Billy Corgan Wasn’t Expecting His Dad’s Reaction to His Success

Billy Corgan shares how his father felt about his successful music career.
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[@unknownname1681]

If I bring up anything negative about my childhood my parents also say that they don’t remember that.

[@ilexevergreen5405]

Perennial denial

[@351528]

That's called gaslighting.

[@FarlesNCharge]

My parents do the same exact thing.

[@soundofsulfer]

Always

[@echase416]

It’s part of the Gaslighting they do, narcissists.

[@alejolopera]

I am a father now and I try to be the best dad every single day ... listening to this kind of stories makes me so sad.. poor Billy ...

[@gary_black]

me too. Disarm is one of the saddest songs ever. "Disarm you with a smile" A heartbreaking lyric.

[@gkniffen]

*Sniff* Poor, Billy. *Sobs into millions of dollars* ... Poor, poor, Billy...

[@kristopherryanwatson]

@@gkniffen i feel sorry for you.

[@truthseeker2222]

growing up rough can sometimes be a blessing in disguise. Trauma helps creates most of the beautiful art we see. Billy would not have been the same artist without his unique upbringing.

[@c0rxpseb0i13]

@@gkniffen yes because money equals happiness

[@Hulkamaniac418]

Not gonna lie, many times I roll my eyes at some of the stuff Billy says. This almost brought me to tears.

[@vanbrandon]

Same bro.

[@MacStiles]

He's probably making it all up.

[@princealexander6155]

This is probably the reason why Billy is the way he is. He continues the cycle.

[@lekmusic]

It did bring me to tears

[@olgakim4848]

Too many of us can totally relate and empathize.

[@samdeb6506]

I'm not the biggest Corgan fan, great musician but this story breaks my heart. You hear his voice crackle up in the end. Best of luck to you Billy.

[@mysticteaparty]

Unfortunately this happens more often than people think. It also is true with your friends. People don't expect you to succeed. They think that success is reserved for people from inside the TV. Even if they try to be supportive, they don't really think that someone they know could actually become IT. I understand this mentality as this kind of success is extremely rare but as an artist that is trying to become IT, you need to be your own biggest fan. Don't wait for someone to believe in you. You will get disappointed.

[@DarinSoles]

Well said

[@alukuhito]

Yep, and with siblings too. I've noticed certain people really liking to be around me when I'm clearly not doing as well as they are in something, yet they're nowhere to be found when I'm happy with what I'm doing. They also want to knock down whatever good things I say about anything.

[@Johnmrobinson-vb5vd]

To many people have a crab In the bucket mentality where they see someone get ahead un life so they tear you down insted of building you up

[@brucelee4996]

I'm proud of you Billy.

[@raymiejed1659]

He's so lovely to share this with us. It's really relatable.

[@annarchy665]

💝

[@bearbear4389]

No success can replace a father's love. So sad.

[@jonmacdonald5345]

Some dad's don't love or give a shit!

[@secondarycontainment4727]

But would he have been successful if showered with affection?

[@blucat4]

@@secondarycontainment4727 I suspect so. Some kids can handle or even need the tough upbringing but Billy I think was more sensitive and needed some positive reinforcement.

[@kurtdyer]

As a diehard SP fan, it's hearing him tell these stories (even though he tells a thousand - mostly metaphorical - tales in his songs) that make you go "Oh it all makes sense now. I understand why he is SO BROKEN". No other band has brought so many tears to my eyes as SP.

[@skriabinfly]

"Time heals, but i'm forever broken"

[@yungalucard9139]

Disarm is such a powerfully emotional song that manages to be uplifting. Billy corgan is a person I can respect because he bled for the music when he was young.

[@prairieboypools]

God bless you Billy. You were able to transcend what many couldn’t and reach heights most thought impossible. And here you are all those years later still standing tall and rockin’ and rollin’. All the best to you and the band going forward!

[@j_music_8779]

Made me tear up listening to that.

[@WhyTheHorseface]

Absolutely. Me too. Made me realize that things that seem insignificant to me as a parent can be crushing to my kids. I gotta be better.

[@Mebthe12luvulongtime]

@@WhyTheHorseface don't forget what you just said, that was real and please act upon it.

[@echase416]

Karen Carpenter had a similar story with her mother. 💔 Narcissistic parenting is so toxic. Amazing you survived, Billy. Deserved loads better.

[@rbeezy42]

I try to always remember this kind of stuff when I'm parenting my daughters. Kids don't forget

[@kelle0285]

Some kids do.

[@mr.brenman2132]

​@@kelle0285Who?

[@BadManN_TheBushes]

This just goes to show you that no matter how successful you are you're not impervious to the feelings of sadness heartbreak pain and some sort of redemption

[@constantlylearnandgrow3487]

of course not. famous people mostly have bigger psychological problems than the average person

[@mirellalastar]

Because you really needed this story to learn that everybody can get sad?

[@Johnmrobinson-vb5vd]

​@@mirellalastaryou are way to cynical probably just a way to overcompsnaste for being to afraid of emotional authenticity

[@JL897139]

Wow this is really sad, how is he not crying. I guess he made his peace with it

[@mirellalastar]

Very real talk, many sons can relate, I'm sure.

[@Jnevergoesout]

Crazy story, it means a lot of courage to share it.

[@guillermosahuquillo4499]

He’s voice sounds broken at times… fighting back tears.

[@colinmontgomery1956]

No it doesn't.

[@Johnmrobinson-vb5vd]

​@@colinmontgomery1956he's strong

[@vectorhold6489]

damn.. Thats one of the most bittersweet stories I've heard in a long time. :(

[@evapierce1090]

Billy is amazing and talented. So glad he's one of the greats that are still making music.

[@Simonchez]

Holy crap, so heartbreaking. What a lesson to let go of your shit and love.

[@BwInNewJersey]

Smashing Pumpkins are part of my life soundtrack. I love the music thru to my soul.

[@bungle3912]

Billy Corgan seems a lot happier these days, which is nice.😊

[@redxixex679]

Billy's really pushing the fashion world to the next level. Nice.

[@barryshaw7304]

If you are going to Alaska in January he nailed it! Lol!!!

[@ChrisS-nj3ye]

LOLZ, nice one.

[@bradfoster8146]

The song, "Lyric" by his short lived band Zwan is such a beautiful song. It's in my top 10 songs ever

[@LegendoftheGalacticHero]

I’m just happy that Billy is in a place where he can break this generational trauma and enjoy his family

[@reggaeluv2000]

Aww, I like hearing that his dad was reading MCIS lyrics and listening to the album. Better late than never at all regarding seeing the greatness within his son.

[@blucat4]

Silent appreciation doesn't do anybody any good.

[@reggaeluv2000]

@@blucat4 everyone is guilty of doing such though. Doesn't mean one needs to appreciate/praise constantly

[@Jedithtv]

What a crushing story to hear

[@donthompson567]

I can so relate to this story

[@E.C.2]

A lot of Gen X and younger can relate,it's 1 of many reasons for our looming demographic winter.

[@manhalen7046]

@@E.C.2 Just stop.

[@Urm0mz]

Billy and Courtney bonded over childhood traumas. Why do people think they were so close without having anything in common!

[@FrankValchiria]

wow breaks my hearth to hear this, yet i'm grateful he channeled this into great unforgettable art, you have helped thousands if not millions of kids feel seen

[@kelle0285]

I broke my hearth. Heck, I busted down the whole chimney.

[@trevorbacque8175]

Listening to this , pushes me to be there for the kids.

[@jsmithsemper4848]

SMASHING PUMPKINS. AMEN. Just brilliant & beautiful & timeless.

[@michaeljacyna1973]

I got to see Billy Sr play on stage with him during their final shows when they "broke up." At the time I thought "how neat." But I really wish I knew some of these stories surrounding them at the time. It would've cast that moment in a new light.

[@bornwild3955]

Thanks for sharing Bill

[@jmcastaman]

We can only try not to make the same mistakes with our kids and to heal the young version of ourselves.

[@Qliphirot]

Yep, breaking the cycle of abuse.

[@johnstitt2615]

Selective memory goes both ways.

[@greghandle]

Did it play a part in the writing is the question and I bet it did cause your music helped and inspired a lot of people during hard times

[@dedalus6]

Amazing human.

[@Joramee]

That's a cool story. I bet many parents never got the chance to say that to their kids before they passed away.

[@eulogy4anange1]

Billy is awesome I love him

[@larrygarcia6356]

Wow…..really fu*ked up. And yet very much relatable.

[@missmew5240]

😢 I ❤Billy Corgan

[@mac_pe]

Remember people, love your children. Show them your love and attention.

[@magicwindow6682]

I am always interested on imaging how the parents of celebrities think about their kids success and this is really fascinating

[@TOCC50]

I bet he cried a lot, most people shouldn’t be parents

[@dawgpost90]

Parents are human beings and are flawed.

[@saywhat9158]

The question then becomes was it worth it if that rejection had a large effect of driving his accomplishments and success? You rarely get greatness from a happy and comfortable life.

[@larrygarcia6356]

Damn good question. Everything happens for a reason.

[@buzzcrushtrendkill]

Oh I believe so. What drives a person to act upon a dream and the need to express is much why an oyster makes a pearl.

[@Howitchewstofeel5gum]

Stop romanticizing suffering and abuse. Depression is not a creative or productive state of mind.

[@ph-vf5hx]

said no nepo-baby ever

[@ghostwalk2446]

@@Howitchewstofeel5gum It was a simple question followed by a simple observation, no mention of "suffering", "abuse", "depression", and nothing was "romanticized" at all, chill

[@samcad-ho3ze]

I identify with this. Wish I could hug you Billy.

[@taylorcuthrell4123]

Saw the Pumpkins in 2007 in Asheville. Best. Show. Ever.

[@michaelsasso2215]

The story of my life

[@dorsia6938]

It reminds me of the scene in inception where he pulls out his kid drawning from the dads safe.

[@JMcLeodKC711]

I can relate a bit. Realized a little late what big drinkers both my parents were.

[@skriabinfly]

A million men have a similar story but without platinum records to go with it.

[@kristopherryanwatson]

true. but what's your point ?

[@princealexander6155]

@@kristopherryanwatson I think the point is those million men didn't resort to douchebaggery as a life philosophy as a result. They moved on with their lives and tried to become better people

[@ashleyparks1738]

Parents are so intelligent

[@yourmom9951]

Thanks, Ashley. ❤️

[@throwawayavclubber7269]

Aw, damn. Sorry, Billy. That hurts.

[@AV57]

It’s so hard to know in the moment if you should applaud your kids’ achievements or try to make sure they stay humble so they don’t squander the opportunity.

[@hirsch4155]

Both

[@-0rbital-]

Howard should be able to relate to that.

[@DannyJuke]

super relatable

[@carlosconesa]

Damn, that was deep.

[@yourmom9951]

That’s what she said

[@larrydanadavid2435]

Billy Corgan should realize more than anyone that people aren’t perfect.

[@Rocket-rs1eb]

I think that’s his point

[@seekthetruth824]

His father's behavior was more than just not perfect. He was abusive

[@yourmom9951]

@@seekthetruth824 Stop being such a baby. It’s called tough love.

[@yukoncorneliusjr8273]

So that’s where he gets his pettiness from.

[@shnoogums1]

Lol

[@truebelieverthasit6265]

Omg *holds back tears.. My mom denies acknowledging wtf A Budweiser model is..

[@tvman7916]

Crushing

[@Giveme1goodreason]

Turns out I have the greatest parents ever.

[@yourmom9951]

Thanks, Troy.

[@sheydoll]

Wow wow wow 😢😢

[@joshnic6639]

great clips, but how do we watch the whole thing?

[@jeremywanner4526]

Unfortunately pain and suffering creates amazing music.

[@thaddeuswallenberg4006]

thats why billy is billy

[@sheabobiney8114]

I love Billy. He's one of the more intelligent celebrities. I can tell he's a deep thinker about shit.

[@Deeroc25]

The depth of pain and alienation in his songs are not the product of a happy childhood.

[@triple6758]

He's a Boomer. You are 'competition' to him, Billy.

[@ShinyFlakesShinyFlakes]

What exactly do you mean

[@alexmack956]

So it’s a boomer thing

[@jacobfield4848]

There is alot of jealousy within families.

[@danielmoksmann5654]

I mean, if Bill Burr ever wants to portray someone in a biopic...

[@treedeblue]

Billy was on WWE I can’t get over that.

[@cptpepper7731]

What's the temperature in Stern's studio? Turn on the heater.

[@jackiep5009]

That album stands the test of time.

[@alukuhito]

He talked about a couple of albums here.

[@hugolafhugolaf]

Is it that cold in the studio?

[@eternallife9786]

That's so sad😢

[@crazidirtbiker]

Did billy ever finish that book he was gonna write? I wanna hear the shapeshifter story he touched on briefly on your show before. He supposedly seen someone change into something else while in a room with them. He won’t talk about it but said it would be in the book.

[@KarlRock]

Damn

[@zerosoma33]

Bro got his cheekbones back

[@tatialo37]

Pain begets success.

[@deettekearns9092]

DAAAMMMNN.

[@thomasmeyer7793]

Damn bill burr went indie

[@kristopherryanwatson]

wow. really original.

[@blacksunshine7485]

Need to put the heating on in the studio by the looks of it

[@alobo9937]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@chriscraft77022]

that is crazy

[@terryfonz4603]

Hurt people hurt people!

[@0BRAINS0]

We are all human.😢

[@yuyusai88-sk8gp]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@johnavy1722]

If your a grandpa,God gave ya a second chance

[@ronnieo.6647]

Wow

[@MiamiPush2theLimit]

People expect so much from parents. They’re only human. And most of them were not ready to have kids.

[@alecaquino4306]

Family dynamics are often very complicated :(

[@Prebound_]

All i know is apparently a lot of stuff went down in the year '1976'.

[@DNixon845]

Now I know why some parents don’t care…I mean, how many rock albums have you sold ?

[@gordonhall9871]

this happens a lot

[@RH-xs8gz]

If you’re gonna treat your kid that way, why have them in the first place?

[@guinnessharvey4476]

Must have been a cold studio

[@EddieTownson]

Life’s a bummer! When you’re a hummer…