Biological Warfare on the Northern Line (Or, The Test Tube)

The secret history of the British government’s biological weapon experiments, and how the Underground was involved.
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[@stevehallam0850]

"Stand clear of the spores" 😷

[@actua99]

That works even better in Dutch, as spoor is the Dutch word for track. Doubly appropriate, I'd say.

[@crossleydd42]

That's scary, because I used to travel daily between Morden and Tottenham Court Road in 1956. When I did my National Service in the RAF in 1957-58, our Station Routine Orders regularly carried invitations to go to Porton Down to be 'injected with a cold virus'! Payment was made for the period spent there. However, the word had it that other dark things were being injected instead and my compatriots never went near the place! How wise, it would seem.

[@richardwager283]

Darker episode 👍🏻 I do like these too...

[@stuartmilerosborne]

I was brought up in Wiltshire in the 1960s and my parents were in the Civil Defence. It was an odd time with UFOs over Warminster and lots of comings and goings. Mum and Dad said little but I did a strange number of Chemistry Sets for my birthdays and was asked to get up for my paper round at five in the morning in all weathers all before school . Oh Those Blue Remembered Hills

[@martinjolly8351]

Excellent, particularly liked the "might as well....chuck in some racism", very dark. This appalling history should be better known.

[@bryan3550]

Yes... And in Australia, we were blessed with British Atomic Bomb testing out in the desert of South Australia. Only problem was it wasn't "Uninhabited" after all... And even many official "Participants" were simply guinea pigs who suffered as a consequence. 😢

[@buggs9950]

I don't think it's right to imply that Nigeria was chosen for experimentation because of the race of its indigenous population. Africa's a violent, lawless place and corporations and foreign governments can get away with that sort of stuff there (well, Pfizer didn't), I think that's almost worse. P.S. There's what could be classed as genocide occurring in Nigeria right now, and it's not white people doing it.

[@JagoHazzard]

Lot of chips on shoulders here, very nice

[@buggs9950]

No chips here chap. I just think that a greed for money, power and a lack of accountability is usually a more powerful motivator than racial prejudice. It's a damning indictment on the current climate that I even feel the need to point out that I find both disgusting.

[@tangiers365]

@@buggs9950 mate take your bigoted views somewhere else

[@highpath4776]

In the late 1950s one of my Grandfathers went Blind, the other died of respiratory problems "in the smog", both used the line frequently, I wonder if the event was a contributory factor?

[@oldbloke5277]

I wouldn't be at all surprised.

[@beeble2003]

Impossible to say but dying of respiratory problems in the smogs of 1950s London was in no way unusual. Smog isn't the fog you see today: it's a mixture of fog and smoke and it would hang around for days at a time. It was basically like breathing dense smoke.

[@crossleydd42]

@@beeble2003 Yes, I used to have to walk home in it as the bus timetables went haywire in the smogs. It definitely had the choking effect and I was a healthy 15 year old at the time!

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@beeble2003 and coal dust! (Even when it’s from eg a diesel engine’s particulates..) Lovely stuff. Paper masks can help a little with that (or at least you can see them going black and replace for clean ones) but of course no one really wore them back then. (Even today in lots of wood mills or metal shops they don’t wear masks around the wood/metal dust.) As you probably know, people would have thoroughly blackened mucus from it, far worse than any smoker might get. It’s quite sad that some people don’t really appreciate what clean air regs have brought us and want to get rid of it all.

[@alejandrayalanbowman367]

In 1958, Porton Down released something (we weren't told what) and Met Offices around the country were required to operate a monitoring device to measure the amount of said 'something' that had reached that location.

[@johnsowerby7182]

Just wanted to say that as someone who lived in London in the past, I love these vids. I can just drive in and keep going from video to video, letting the facts about places I know just keep rolling in... Superb

[@AcornElectron]

This is mental. Not unexpected or unbelievable, just mental. Keep up the good work fella and stay safe. I think I’ve almost caught up now but I still have some paint job videos, Jagos Trains and Tales from The Tube to watch. I effed up because I had a spell of letting KZbin just play your next one instead of hitting the channel page and playlists. Although tbh I don’t mind watching the, twice.

[@e45127]

”Mind the gap and stay clear of the spores.” Hilarious!

[@PannierLaw]

“What place should we conduct our dangerous experiments that could thousands if we aren’t careful?” “Scotland.”

[@RailwayDan]

Bloody hell !!!! I didn't know about this. I knew of the tests in Scotland as I have/had friends up in the west of Scotland. One of which lived in Achgarve, part of which overlooks Gruinard island. His father remembered the tests going on. The local fishermen at the time were told (and chased off) not to fish anywhere between the coast at Achgarve and Mungasdale but were never told why. There was a vague story of someone actually "sneaking" onto the island a couple of years after tests. Like in a classic horror novel, he wasn't ever seen again. Thanks for this video Jago. Makes us more aware just how deceitful the British military are.

[@effyleven]

Hmm.. I rode the Tube across London twice a day, five days a week, throughout '62, '63, and '64. I am sure I caught my fair dose of germs during that time, but it never occured to me that any doses were unfairly placed there for me and fellow passengers to catch.

[@paulwoodburn3735]

Well done making this video it was wonderful

[@mcarp555]

Maybe you should have said "Mind the gasp", or "Mind the gas".

[@mailjimmygalaxy]

Very good!!! Who would have thought. More please Mr Jago!

[@nmarks]

Top vid, mate.

[@SimonRML2456]

Really well done on this episode... 👍🏽

[@JagoHazzard]

Thanks!

[@idonotlikeboats9328]

Is it volunteers or “volunteers”?

[@JagoHazzard]

Apparently they were actual volunteers (they were paid for participating), but it was kept from them exactly what was being tested. I suspect if the servicemen were informed of what was actually being done, the pay might not have been enough.

[@duganwarn7093]

Medical research volunteers are often paid expenses for the inconvenience, I believe. It’s not 1,000,000 miles from giving a kidney for money. “For the common good”.

[@markdaywaltjr.5707]

I prefer the portmanteau: "Voluntold"

[@faithlesshound5621]

Some of the subjects were National Servicemen, i.e. conscripts, and some were told they were taking part in research on the common cold. There was a separate establishment for common cold research at Harvard Hospital in that part of England: did it provide cover for chemical warfare too? The CIA's MKultra programme experimented on covert administration of LSD and other psychotropics to civilians. The British psychiatrist most concerned with that was Dr William Sargant of St Thomas's Hospital, a media doctor who also worked with MI5 and Porton Down.

[@beeble2003]

@@faithlesshound5621 Some of the subjects were conscripts but their participation in those experiments was voluntary. They were lied to, and the consent they gave was not informed consent, and that is absolutely wrong. But they weren't forced to participate in the experiments.

[@eaglesfannnn]

This is a cool channel, I like it

[@vespelian5769]

The old soldier's maxim. NEVER VOLUNTEER! And of course, always trust your government.

[@gwenivercall]

lol my dad is an ex-squaddie and that's one thing he's always said to me!

[@rayfisher3921]

And never believe anything until it's been officially denied.

[@spudgun889]

Epic pun at the end 🤣

[@Lurker1979]

The CIA did similar stuff in the NYC subway system.

[@jamesbutler6253]

In the early 80s, we service personnel were still being offered 10 quid for every jab we took at Porton Down.

[@mickontherock1]

Wow! Stay safe everyone. Don’t have nightmares!!! Don’t forget the face covering.

[@barrydysert2974]

Fascinating. 🖖

[@e45127]

”Track” is ”spår” in Swedish, which makes the joke on minding the gap even funnier.

[@TheAnon03]

5:00 Used to do that commute, not surprised.

[@sjTHEfirst]

I wonder if there was ever an “Operation Lollipop”?

[@ramblingrob4693]

Tested on children

[@geoffreyhobbs1548]

The scientists at Porton played a very significant part in unraveling the case of the "Salisbury Poisonings". I do wonder if the current COVID-19 pandemic is actually the result of an experiment that went terribly wrong. I also wonder if we will ever know for sure.

[@planespeaking]

They did, yes and No COVID is not a biological weapon, don't be stupid.

[@beeble2003]

No, the SARS-CoV-2 virus was not part of a biological warfare programme. Engineered viruses contain parts of this and parts of that, whereas SARS-CoV-2 doesn't. And the virus has been studied in great detail by many, many universities around the world so we don't just have to take the world of bioweapons labs on this. SARS-CoV-2 would be a total failure as a biological weapon. For a bioweapon, you want something that has a much higher fatality rate, so the disease outbreak kills a lot of people in one area but rapidly dies out. You don't want something that will cause a global pandemic that kills tens or hundreds of thousands of your own civilians.

[@highpath4776]

No wonder Scotland wanted independence

[@alfiewhittaker3763]

Ah atleast we can sleep knowing its all good 😉

[@chrisstephens6673]

Tooting and Colliers Wood, well thank goodness it wasn't somewhere important. Just joking, it wasn't in the least bit important.😉

[@JagoHazzard]

:O

[@D_B_Cooper]

But the novichok incident was definitely crazy Putin....

[@trevorrandom]

Interesting I'm looking at this today... 😷

[@mjrussell414]

Oh my good God! Crazy people operating under the guise of researchers. They murdered that poor young serviceman.

[@johnledingham852]

Mind the gap, and stand clear of the spores!...You make me chuckle Jago!

[@MrGreatplum]

And there was me worrying about what we might find in the seats on the tube trains...

[@PianoKwanMan]

5:30 Nice clean shirt

[@HonestMan112]

As someone of Nigerian descent who lives in Britain, I'm disappointed.

[@edepillim]

Unbelievable!

[@mickavoidant4780]

Stand clear of the spores? Don't bacilli.

[@PtolemyJones]

What a sad sick fucked up world we live in. These are the things the supposed 'good guys' do, like the Tuskegee Syphilis Study in the US. Imagine what they do elsewhere. Mengele was not the rare case we would like to imagine.

[@danielmorris9803]

Don't Suppose You Know The Operation Name As I Forgot It

[@Queen-of-Swords]

Ugh I don't tend to agree that these experiments are "neccessary". :-/

[@iaindcosta]

Neither do I

[@JamesTheBell1]

They're only neccessary if the other side are also doing these experiments. This is also the point of view of the other side.

[@beeble2003]

@@JamesTheBell1 Well, the other side have used chemical weapons for attempted assassinations at least twice in the last three years so, yeah, it seems pretty necessary to do some experiments.

[@ramblingrob4693]

Operation "Vegetarian" LOl

[@RAWDernison1]

Porton Down doesn't do novochuk, experts say: must be Russian.

[@SynchroScore]

When you remember that some religious cult members tried to release something in a Japanese subway, you realize that this research is important, even if sometimes unethical.

[@trevorrandom]

Interesting... 😷

[@AMEENHAI]

save the best to the last

[@lsdesignweb]

Soooo whenever in London .... avoid the Underground just in case XD

[@hedgehog3180]

"Because if you're going to conduct evil and unethical experiments you might as well go the whole hog and throw some racism in there as well" This is comedy gold.

[@JohnSmith-bx8zb]

Note the release date of the vid. I wonder how many clamouring for more trains to be operated during the first wave of the pandemic are aware of how the Tube was considered as the perfect place to quickly infect the maximum numbers of people!! Seems to me it should have been shut and only reopened to passengers with a valid permit to travel!!!

[@charlietbarnes4842]

Thats worrying lol x

[@daveoftheclanburgess]

Thanks for a very interesting video. I think you might be feeding conspiracy theorist but that's OK, they need a new twist. I did think the the racist claim was a little sensationalist and glib. Nigeria as a member of the Commonwealth would likely have volunteered (at Govt Level) to be compensated for these tests in a large open area. The attitude of both govts is open to question but must be judged by the standards of the day. The already commented nuclear tests in Australia fall under the same heading. Canada was testing against soldiers in general (not targetted) dispersals in the 60s and is still the leading NATO country for chemical weapons defence. Britain was carrying out open range firings of tank battle groups in Libya until 1970, without even checking to see if the were people forward of the guns - it was an open range. Don't even start asking what the US were doing!!! My point is that you need to look at these activities in the light of there time - just as you do when presenting your railway histories.

[@digede28]

Mr Jago Hazzard I think you would be happy to do a video or have you? on the Greenwich Power Station in the Old Woolwich Road, Greenwich -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich_Power_Station, used to power the Underground system :) ;) ;) ;) ;)

[@JagoHazzard]

I haven’t yet, but it would be a good subject. Maybe combine it with videos on Lots Road and Neasden. There’s another Underground power station that survives, which is going to appear in a video I have coming up.

[@rainyfeathers9148]

See?

[@2H80vids]

"The test tube" ~ really? Come on Mr H, that's taking the p uns too far.😁 Seriously though, there's some fairly scary stuff in this one; makes you think a bit and yes, this stuff should be better known. I would never have guessed how often Colliers Wood would show up in your vids.

[@guyorsini1044]

No real surprise that when you hit someone withthat much Sarin that they end up doing, what in the gallows humor of us American soldiers called, the "floppy chicken

[@mxbshr4276]

“Might as well go the whole hog and throw some racism in there as well” that made me laugh

[@capcompass9298]

Throwing "racism" in nearly every conversation today.

[@Satters]

crikey, you just never know what the establishment are going to do to us poor masses next

[@highpath4776]

Hitler was a Vegitarian

[@davidjames579]

@Ken What's his phone number?

[@nathanbailey8756]

How did silver town get it's name and please could you do a series on London's disused stations

[@thesalandarian3314]

Meh everyone knows the most dangerous underground line is the Piccadilly line

[@miket8830]

First of all, I'm not even surprised that u.s. wasn't only government doing these kind of things. And second, who is laughing now. chemtrail deniers :D