What causes chronic pain? In this video, Dr Mike explores the role of peripheral and central sensitization in chronic pain. Listen to our podcast for more info: podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast...
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@ahmedhaaqilrifky35312 ай бұрын
What great about a teacher like Dr Mike is you have no idea how complicated of a subject you just understood. Only after going back to my lecture note did I understand that this was actually quite complex. Dr Mike made that way too easy to understand.
@user-yr1cl4ms7e2 жыл бұрын
I just love the smile he gave at the last second. Also, thank you so much for making this video!
@amandacrowe5280Ай бұрын
I have been locked in a mental hospital and given electric shock therapy because my "chronic pain" can't be THAT bad, & I should be HAPPY! (I appreciate the educational video & LOVE the effort.)
@simplynamur78683 ай бұрын
Wow that was an amazing explanation. Learned more in ten minutes than I did in two hours.
@CanadaBoarding3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant way of explaining this subject. You made that incredibly easy to understand. Thank you!!
@howtomedicate4 жыл бұрын
What causes chronic pain? And what keeps it present? Questions we are often struggling with, but the pain avoidance model plays an important role for sure!
@DrMattDrMike4 жыл бұрын
How to Medicate yes!!
@rebeccaoconnor94523 жыл бұрын
May I ask what the pain avoidance model is please?
@crispycruiser4654 Жыл бұрын
@@rebeccaoconnor9452 A pseudoscientific, crackpot theory that claims that patients who had an injury that "healed" are supposedly in pain because of psychological fear of reinjuring, not because the injury simply didn't heal. It is inherently gaslight-y in nature.
@DavidZechariah6 ай бұрын
@@rebeccaoconnor9452curious myself
@MyNameisDianaa4 жыл бұрын
what a legend!! cant thank you enough!! incredible!
@kiahgrubb25574 жыл бұрын
This explanation was incredible - thanks so much!!!
@rach32883 жыл бұрын
This is the type of simple explanations I need! Thank you so much and love your enthusiasm :)
@loupolitini79174 жыл бұрын
you, my friend, are an absolute legend! that explanation was extraordinary! well done doc ;)
@benjaminfox71054 жыл бұрын
G'day discussion Dr Mike! From a simple pain perspective I knew the basics. However, I hadn't really studied chronic pain. This little lecture was enlightening! I still get amazed at the body that so much of it, is all about voltage! hahaha!
@01-sudershanapauldrjanmenj4 Жыл бұрын
Sir, You both deserve felicitations and awards from You Tube . Great work sir
@TimTrevail3 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic explanation, thanks for sharing. My only query would be the inference of nociceptors being referred to as 'pain receptors', which seems to be miss-aligned to current research. I believe pain would be a construct of the central nervous system, rather than something stemming from nociception.
@mohamedorayith46263 жыл бұрын
Nociceptors simply send painful signal to the brain to be perceived as pain, i.e. damage or potential damage to tissue :)
@crispycruiser4654 Жыл бұрын
Just because it's a "construct" or originates from the central nervous system, doesn't mean that nocicpetive pain originating from tissue pathology isn't legitimate or that it's "in your head"
@amandab99732 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for helping us better understand this
@SheshagiriPai2 жыл бұрын
99% of videos talking about why and how chronic pain occurs. Nobody talks about a solution. Diarrhoea can be stopped by 2 pills. There seems to be definitely more money in pain management pills for the drug manufacturers, as patients suffer for decades.
@DS-fi4hf10 ай бұрын
That’s how the system was designed
@simonaliolyte1264 жыл бұрын
Impressive! Thank you for clarity!
@madband20093 жыл бұрын
the best explanation I've heard! cheers
@alfredchen714 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! Really clear and helpful. Thanks a lot.
@rr-zf6zm2 жыл бұрын
You are Amazing! PleAse keep making videos like this. Its so helpful, easier to understand!-from a nursing student
@laurasafont32292 ай бұрын
Brilliant! What a great teacher you are!
@sherylislip22853 жыл бұрын
Such an uplifting video and certainly gives chronic pain sufferers hope
@EDD5194 ай бұрын
NOT !
@DrRobertFredrickson3 жыл бұрын
Great information packed explanations! Thank you
@QuantumJG904 жыл бұрын
This is really interesting. I have had chronic back pain for 5 years, and I have been studying pharmaceutical science for 2 semesters part time now. I’m actually really interested in human physiology, and I’m strongly considering going into drug discovery biology. I’ve always been fascinated with the human body, but I did my first human physiology subject, and looking at chronic pain, I’m starting to understand certain terms in better detail. I want to study more human physiology, and will try full-time next semester. I also really enjoy medical or organic chemistry. This made sense to me.
@Zinnie9882 жыл бұрын
Do your best to find an relief for womens pain conditions uterine called endometriosis and adenomyosis. There is no pain the world that can be compared to that one! So debilitating!
@Truerealism747 Жыл бұрын
@@Zinnie988 check out tms
@maximumbrand31812 жыл бұрын
So clearly explained
@summerrose99564 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr Mike😍😍
@alking_am8423 жыл бұрын
This is incredible!
@80expertube3 жыл бұрын
Amazing Enthusiastic Demonstration!
@nopretribrapture23183 жыл бұрын
ive had multiple traumatic experiences mental and physical since early childhood, im now crippled,going to tribunals soon to try and fight the dwp for stopping my disability payments.
@devinking64773 жыл бұрын
Your amazing god bless you sir
@malinzetterberg052 жыл бұрын
also fantastic job at explaining!
@MrSuarezno73 жыл бұрын
excellent work. what a beast
@mimispore10 ай бұрын
Thanks
@jackfrith9623 Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@edwarddunlap73443 жыл бұрын
Chronic= forever, as long as the body lives , you have to have it to know !
@Override.Health3 жыл бұрын
And I do! How have you been doing Edward?
@edwarddunlap73443 жыл бұрын
@@Override.Health Doing pretty good because of GOD and kratom !
@Override.Health3 жыл бұрын
@@edwarddunlap7344 Have you considered becoming a health and wellness coach? We need more people who have learned to manage their own pain to help others learn to manage theirs. -Hannah.
@marcusstevens19312 жыл бұрын
I have central and peripheral sensitization. It’s a living hell.
@Truerealism747 Жыл бұрын
Are you any better have you got Dr TS book it will. Help you to get better then look at TMS Dr schubiner
@dalailarose15962 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this as a spinal cord injury survivor with central pain syndrome & CNS pain syndrome. This was really interesting, & had some new info to me.
@whome58102 жыл бұрын
Me too! Have you found anything that helps?
@kpip6264 Жыл бұрын
This is a great overview. I have crps or RSD for over 3 decades. How do we stop chronic pain?
@jasmineothman3492 Жыл бұрын
great 🙏🙏 thanks a lot 🌸🌸
@ebenezerkyndiah87382 жыл бұрын
Spot on
@juddfelsher97084 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@piraveenaabaskaran13943 жыл бұрын
Amazing video!!
@user-py7mz8oj7o2 жыл бұрын
so how do I make it stop?
@humblepi36664 жыл бұрын
Interesting vid, however... Just me view (and I'm not a medical professional), but... like many other medical pros, you seem to suggest that the causes of, and reaction of, the body to acute pain and the causes of, and reaction of, the body to chronic pain are 'mutually exclusive', in that the pain mechanism 'may' move from the 'acute' phase - for want of a better word - to the 'chronic' phase. I would like to suggest that both may actually continue to work together. So, as an example - which is a very simplistic overview of a complex issue with tons of research papers written on the subject... an Aussie Researcher, Prof HV Crock, back in 1970 and in 1986 discussed an issue with lower back pain which he labelled 'Internal Disc Disruption' (IDD). In this he talks of a disc that has suffered disruption but has not ruptured. The damage is to the annulus fibrosus, where fissures allow leakage of the nucleus pulposus into the annulus fibrosus, which in turn stimulate the nociceptors that usually only innervate the outer third of the annulus. The nucleus pulposus, which is normally contained within the disc, not only antagonises the nociceptors but is seem as a 'foreign body' by the body itself, which kicks off an autoimmune response. This leakage happens over a long period of time - many years - and because it is often overlooked and difficult to diagnose, chronic pain (deep, dull, aching sensations) may well set in, as well as on-going episodes of acute pain (sharp, stabbing sensations) as the nucleus pulposus material continues to slowly leak and antagonise the disc nociceptors and surrounding nociceptors where it is believed damage to the Endplates allows diffusion and leakage of the nucleus material to find its way outside of the disc. Others have done further research in this area, including the renowned Aussie medical researcher, Emeritus Prof Nikolai Bogduk, with findings that back up Crock's work. Wonder what your thoughts are on this.
@abrouch14 Жыл бұрын
very very helpful, very clear, thank you so much!!
@johnathanabrams843411 ай бұрын
How has this helped ?
@vparakhin4 ай бұрын
So nice to hear a man who has absolutely no experience with chronic pain, talk about chronic pain.
@keshavasavada34154 жыл бұрын
Superb sir
@bismarkbizmark5639 Жыл бұрын
Super interesting, but could be more leads on what could be done to treat sensitization. Also NSAIDS i think are generally best to avoid, i just read one summary of a recent study showing increased risk for chronic pain for those who consistently took nsaids following a soft tissue injury, and i know there are multiple studies suggesting that nsaids interfere with soft tissue healing. The situation could be different once chronic pain already has set in, but there are more wholesome ways to combat inflammation.
@sigridruent86313 жыл бұрын
Question; I don't understand under first pain response on the synaptic cleft of the dorsal horn. At first, am I correct to say that glutamate and substance P are released but under prolonged peripheral sensitization, we then get CGRP and chemokines and cytokines released . This then activates NMDA receptors as well as AMPA?
@aswin16904 жыл бұрын
Great video. One doubt, isn’t the RMP of nerve -70 and not -90?
@lolakhalid050410 ай бұрын
Legendary
@beach_citiesnp79862 жыл бұрын
Thank you so....much... NOW I really understand about Chronic pain !!!!
@PhysioTeachsenthilkumar3 жыл бұрын
Gud. One Dr mike
@mingz83 Жыл бұрын
What about the video that you taught us about pain gate theory? That interneuron sends negative signal to inhibit the 2nd order pain neuron. I am confused at the last part of this video, that you said even fine touch could amplify (not inhibit?) the 2nd pain neuron?
@alavuddinkurbonboyev6052 Жыл бұрын
I listened to this topic from a lot of teachers but no one could explain it so clearly. thanks
@maximiximatosis4 ай бұрын
This is such a succinct and helpful breakdown of pain, peripheral, and chronic pain. Thanks!
@nooks123 жыл бұрын
Dr Matt or Mike. Interesting video. Thanks. I noticed here and reading elsewhere that it is noted that this kind of pain persists even when the cause is taken care of or healed. What happens when one does not take care of the cause? I was diagnosed with peroneal tendinitis years after it settled in. Eight years later, an MRI/Ultrasound indicated mild tenosynovitis of the peroneal longus. Ultrasound also showed microtears in the brevis. MRI inconclusive due to hardware in my ankle. I still have pain after all these years and physio. Is the tissue damage still considered to be there? If so, is it causing the pain signals or are the pain signals a result of what you've described in this video? Thanks.
@lorenzoricco70723 жыл бұрын
Hero
@jennypagliai7259Ай бұрын
NSAIDs have caused kidney disease in myself so not a good treatment for chronic pain.
@Drstar-rg9wp3 жыл бұрын
🙏❤
@deekircher214 жыл бұрын
Is there a schedule or calendar for live tutorials? I would like to watch these. I’m from a non science background and really getting into these videos
@rebeccaoconnor94523 жыл бұрын
Is there any way to decrease the level from (the abnormally increased level of -60 or whoever ever it has decided to set its benchmark) back to -90?
@johnathanabrams8434 Жыл бұрын
Probably sodium channel blockers but they come with nasty side effects
@Rachie-nj3oi7 ай бұрын
So how can we turn these pain transmitters off. I'm fed up of being in pain. If i could get rid of the pain i could get my quality of life back.
@itzamazingaxel57733 жыл бұрын
What books do you think are best for studying these topics? 🤓
@crispycruiser4654 Жыл бұрын
The problem with this explanation is lazy doctors use it right away in lieu of ordering tests. Patients with very real tissue pathology and damage are being denied MRI's and x-rays by doctors who go way too far with this "sensitization" generalization. A lot of forms of chronic pain such as arthritis, tendonosis, scoliosis are degenerative in nature and do NOT heal. The majority of people in chronic pain are suffering from conditions like this, and this whole subsection of people who are imagining their pain because their brain is allegedly overreacting while their tissues are healed or perfectly fine, are a very small subsection but are being treated as an overwhelmingly majority of the pain community - usually accompanied by some form of discrimination (you're too young to be in pain, you're a woman so you're being hysterical, you're a man so just man up). They are extrapolating a tiny subcategory of sensitization patients and stretching it out to the entire parent category of pain patients. It's like treating 100% of the totality of cancer patients as if they had one form of cancer. Would you treat lung cancer exactly as you would prostate cancer?
@PeterRuppig7 ай бұрын
Couldn't have said it better. My GP is one of those people who worked at a pain clinic and now that she is a GP she tells me that there is nothing wrong with my tendon, just some sensitized nerve endings. I always remind her of the fact that MRI shows significant amount of fluid around the tendon and multiple specialists confirmed tendonosis. She always jumps to that conclusion when I tell her that I am still in pain. It's as if she thinks if I am not pain free at this point then it must be a sensitisation problem. No, it's just that the tendon is severely damaged and psysiotherapy can only help so much. I hate this kind of generalisation, I feel like a lunatic everytime she comes up with that bullshit.
@crispycruiser46547 ай бұрын
@@PeterRuppig Sorry to hear this. She's an absolute fool and it's inexcusable but she has been brainwashed, unfortunately. I haven't spent a day in medical school, and yet I assert that know better than most young medical professionals particularly who have graduated medical school after 2016. That is when the CDC guidelines were revised and the entire curriculum was centered around anti opioid propaganda. They were going to do whatever was necessary to reduce pain scripts to 0, not only by demonizing, exaggerating and lying about opioids (and kratom), but changing the definition of pain so as to gaslight the patient and place all the onus on you to just think your pain away. If it doesn't go away, it's simply that you're not doing it right by meditating hard enough. That justifies not treating the pain, because it's your fault. Where do I get the nerve to assert I know more than they do? By spending a disproportionate amount of time getting 2nd, 3rd, 4th opinions from doctors, surgeons and PT's who DID listen and DID get me results. By having and rehabbing from 10 surgeries. Tendonosis comes from a permanent thickening and degeneration of tendon tissue. Diseased tendon and ligament can grow to 3-5x the size of healthy tissue. Sure, it "heals" per se, but with uneven and painful scar tissue which compress nerves. Think of healthy tendon like a piece of string cheese and an unhealthy tendon like string cheese you've been pulling apart for 10 minutes. You don't simply get to put it back together like it was before. Now, tendonosis is not always a death sentence. It is possible, over time, with things like PT, massage, graston, and shockwave therapy to realign scar tissue close enough to normal tissue so that it no longer hurts. It'll never be 100%, but I've had very bad tendons that healed to 80-90%. The problem is it takes a long time - several months to a few years. And I want to reiterate, the pain is due to TISSUE PATHOLOGY and changes. Yes, the nerve is hurting. Because the nerve is COMPRESSED BY THE DAMAGED TISSUE. The nerve is not free to glide. So it's not simply a case of a perfectly healthy nerve in overdrive. I had a gigantic bone spur in my talus joint that throbbed, 24/7, for 8 months. I was told the same nonsense. As soon as I had the bone spur shaved off, the nerve stopped hurting. The very idea that surgery works well for many orthopedic injuries is stone cold proof that the problem is TISSUE, not nerve sensitization.
@frede60714 ай бұрын
So true. I have an extra congenital rib pressing on my nerve. They all told me my brain “learned” the pain. Seriously such losers. It’s like THIS IS YOUR JOB, DO BETTER.
@user-rv2zj8zu5b3 ай бұрын
Yup and they just start prescribing antidepressants, Lyrica or gapapentin to “manage” pain. Either lazy or incompetent doctors who don’t have a clue.
@amandacrowe5280Ай бұрын
I literally was put in a mental hospital because my pain couldn't be THAT bad, poor crazy woman, drug seeking, let's shock some sense into her brain with ECT therapy.
@fahadbinabdulhalim40244 жыл бұрын
Nice
@malinzetterberg052 жыл бұрын
it's hard to see what you've written on the bored my friend
@EDD5194 ай бұрын
same ol stuff ! no pain meds for the suffering , maybe they think words will relieve pain ??
@petramajernikova32603 жыл бұрын
I am having a spinal cord stimulator fitted in couple of weeks, hoping it will help 🙏
@harrytoyshirt41463 жыл бұрын
Good luck. I had one put in 2 mos. ago--------didn't work. If you haven't had the pain a long time, your chances are better than if you have.
@petramajernikova32603 жыл бұрын
@@harrytoyshirt4146 thank you. Yeah had the pain 6 years, SCS in now for 2 months and not doing a damn thing
@rajivdas81852 жыл бұрын
Good
@ndzeidzerobertfonyuy3594Ай бұрын
What about the dorsal root ganglia? What happens there during chronic pain.
@johnathanabrams8434Ай бұрын
Myofascial pain is the MOST common form of chronic pain. Not a little, not moderate, THE MOST kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJiom2quoLOUfMUsi=DipHTQi9r1KBeg2V
@domm1653 жыл бұрын
Can you have central sensitization in the absence of peripheral sensitization?
@capresti3537 Жыл бұрын
No, because the brain does not have pain receptors.
@aryannaghavi39872 жыл бұрын
nice
@malinzetterberg05 Жыл бұрын
where do the positive ions come from? 🌸
@johnathanabrams8434 Жыл бұрын
G coupled protein receptors or c-fibres
@larryerb282 жыл бұрын
Wow why do none
@alaaadel89002 жыл бұрын
*اللهم صل على سيدنا محمد وعلى اله وصحبه وسلم تسليما كثيرا عدد خلقك و رضا نفسك وزنة عرشك ومداد كلماتك و عدد ما كان وعدد ما سيكون وعدد الحركات والسكون.*
@Amal-fq1wn2 жыл бұрын
God knows how much i love u
@lolasixon29074 жыл бұрын
Can you ever heal from this condition?
@annedean46033 жыл бұрын
Go DIY a grounding mat, pillow or sheet to use at home. Earthing is good for almost all health problems including chronic pain.
@druidofnerium3 жыл бұрын
Chronic pain is a case by case basis, for the most part it depends on what is the root cause of chronic pain. In many cases it will never be cured, you have to learn how to manage symptoms.
@danieladenuta81763 жыл бұрын
After 4 years I found out this is my diagnostic, I was left with this pain after C section.
@Override.Health3 жыл бұрын
How have you been dealing with it Daniela? Would you like to talk about it?
@kaladharyadhav76974 жыл бұрын
Hi
@andreiadesousafernandes77533 жыл бұрын
But what makes the central sensitisation to occur and then cause chronic pain? Not all injuries cause chronic pain...
@hibahabboushsy47773 жыл бұрын
Supeerr
@lucash82348 ай бұрын
Desperately needs an eli5.
@paulojustinianookubo3 жыл бұрын
I was told I have this. I have chronic pain all over my spine, abdomen and pelvic area.I also all kind of burning digestive issues. I'm so depressed as noone cant help me and I am only 33.
@Truerealism747 Жыл бұрын
Any luck with TMS therapy
@arsalanzaidi153 жыл бұрын
Builder
@joellavanderboom49224 ай бұрын
How do we stop the pain? How do we tell the brain its safe? I've been able to over come it twice last year, but for some reason it keeps popping back up.. how can I tell the brain once and for all it can stop sending the signals?
@smalshani9269 Жыл бұрын
great but please a little bit slower next time🥺
@javiera41483 жыл бұрын
Question: Can weight training act as a stimulus for chronic pain? I'm not talking about delayed onset muscle soreness..but more like joint and muscle pain associated with a chronic condition.
@gildog Жыл бұрын
Nope. The pain is where it is and if it stops it stops. There is no pain party in your brain that won't end.
@deekircher214 жыл бұрын
Learning medical science is better when the doctor is good looking
@TonyODonnell6 ай бұрын
who is this video aimed at? anybody with chronic pain only wants to know how to get relief from pain and end up in pain clinics, and when you end up in a proper pain clinic, you will receive a lot more detailed information than this video as it should relate to your specific area of pain.
@cryptonut97322 ай бұрын
This video is not for patients
@rebekahbrown4052 Жыл бұрын
What are you even talking about?
@gauravjoseph48312 жыл бұрын
Damn I feel my left eye is sensitized to light flicker!
@wz5165 Жыл бұрын
You’re handsome
@timocuyvers15015 ай бұрын
Why are you talking about skin pain when majority of people have chronic pain at joints ?