The BEST WAYS To Heal Chronic Pain & Trauma WITHOUT Medication | Howard Schubiner

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Headaches, migraine, back, neck or joint pain, irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), fibromyalgia - they’re just some of the common causes of chronic pain, which is estimated to affect between a third to half of all UK adults, or just under 28 million of us. Emerging neuroscience tells us our brains actually create what we experience in our bodies, through a process called predictive processing. Pain doesn’t come from the body part where it’s felt, it’s created by our brain, signalling that something needs attention.
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[@user-wg7bx4zw7d]

My parents were alcoholic’s, my father got a brain tumor and my mother committed suicide the day he died at the age of 17 in 1979. I witnessed it all. I raised my siblings ….I can’t believe to tell you how hard my life is with fibromyalgia, chronic pain, tingling in my hands, etc. in 1979 you were on your own so I had no choice but to hold in my sadness, feelings, emotions. Medical community at a lose. I have had every test,. This interview helped me so… much! Thank you.

[@sharynmain2432]

I am glad that you had some empowerment from listening to this chat. It sounds as if you had much more challenges that were not for you to carry and I hope for you that something in your days holds some joy or small solace. These enlightened professionals are certainly highly emotionally intelligent … so they help all of us.

[@cindyspiess9963]

wow , glad you found this to be able to overcome the traumatic experiences that happened ... 👍 ❤️

[@educationalhub9521]

How you get cured

[@emma-my8bn]

Yes, it's called Somotoform disorder. It's where emotional distress turns into physical pain.

[@Steph.mindset.mentor]

I hope you heal soon 😢❤

[@lalipod]

I was in extreme and chronic pain, have autoimmunes, etc., and was sleeping whenever not forced to do something else (all while getting myself through graduate school). My healing began when I left my emotionally abusive husband. I have done the work these men are talking about and continue to do so. These docs and Gabor Mate (mentioned in this vid) have helped me become the best me I’ve been so far! As a 50 year old, I’m beginning to live my life, let go of my trauma, heal my CPTSD, and pursue a meaningful career.

[@reemm4696]

So good to hear ☺️ I hope you make a video about it I would watch it 🎉

[@joannewilson4450]

Congrats, you story sounds similar to mine less the graduate school. I was working on obtaining my Associates Degree but had to drop out. Stay strong and blessings to you!

[@hellboy8050]

@@punyashloka4946pulling out my 😊p

[@barefootreba]

God Bless you!!

[@Annapurna818]

Abusive workplace.😢

[@Moonie787]

Omg…. He told my whole story… including the car accident and back and neck pain 😭 ❤ thank you for this 💔 I am crying here, and I have been so emotionally numb for so long - endometriosis, sciatica, psoriatic arthritis, chronic lower back pain, painful pelvic pain, hormonal imbalance, insomnia (it’s past 3am as I type this), the list goes on… Had a very painful/severely abusive childhood, followed by an abusive marriage, miscarriage, and now dealing with all the fallout. God bless us all dealing with and healing from this difficult hand we’ve been dealt x

[@LaCLS550]

You just told my whole life story. 😢🙏🏿

[@fuckgoogleandyou8779]

Actually you just told a major part of my story as well. Now as for myself being a previously professional pain or reducing anyone’s mind emotion and physical abilities. Don’t worry too much I can promise the offensive persons involved will pay unbelievable amounts in any and every way possible. And feel free to Have em reach out to me. I Have a pretty good recommendations that May have Ben covered here already. A real live experienced person might help immensely.

[@Moonie787]

@@LaCLS550 ♥️♥️♥️

[@donnabettis1741]

My story matches yours in so many ways, too. There are far too many with experiences like us. Our real challenges have been ignored by the ‘medical’ industry. I’ve focused for over 15 years on natural health, good eating, active lifestyle - 61 years old but feel and perform like that of those 20+ years younger. Suddenly on Labor Day this year, ‘something’ unleashed in my cervical and thoracic spine! I packed myself in ice and laid in my living room floor for WEEKS - now everything has gone numb in my spinal regions but I still have pain that radiates down my left arm and up into my head. Numbness in my face, a strange metallic taste in my mouth. I’m also having cognitive challenges - my MRI shows the common conditions from my past imaging tests and now includes spinal stenosis, multiple Nerve root impingements and 2 areas of spinal cord compression with no faulty cord signals. None of these nor the medications I’m on explain ‘all’ My symptoms. I’ve had initial tests Alert to multiple organ failures (heart, thyroid, kidneys) but further tests reveal ‘nothing is really wrong there’ - it’s all just BIZARRE!! I’m awaiting nerve conduction study tests scheduled December 18 … Wondering how the heck I prompt my Drs to evaluate past traumas to get this addressed properly rather than the standard processes that truly do not ever resolve the source traumatic causes of these issues (and how do I avoid them sending me to an institution while claiming I’m mentally wrecked/crazy) 😢😢

[@Alipotamus]

I’m so sorry.

[@butterfly7624]

I 100% agree with this. This is what EFT is based on. Releasing trauma in the body so that you can relieve your body of chronic pain. I've been dealing with health issues and part of my healing journey was to tell family members that they hurt me so that I could release it, emotionally and physically.

[@lady-t402]

When Dr Schubiner was explaining the situation and pain of the hypothetical female patient, it sounded like my life story! Started off with a chronic cough as a child, migraines started in my mid teens, back pain by the time I was 16 that worsened over time, combined with agonising hip, leg and neck pain that would reduce me to tears just by walking by my early twenties, by my thirties add in severe acid reflux and top it all off with endometriosis. The only thing my doctor suggested was paracetamol. I’m now 36 and after over 20 years of chronic debilitating pain, thousands of pounds spent on different treatments in desperation to find relief, I have recently reduced my pain by 80% in 2 months with TRE (trauma release exercises) and meditation (Joe Dispenza meditation) I haven’t had even a touch of acid reflux in weeks and my menstrual cycles are completely normal. I thought I’d never feel normal or go another day in my life without pain, I feel like sitting here and crying with gratitude! Thank you Dr Chatterjee I love your videos, they’re always so helpful and inspiring. Keep doing what your doing, you’re amazing 😊

[@amandacarter291]

That is absolutely incredible. Thanks for sharing your story. I'm going to look into this fellow you mentioned Joe Dispenza

[@kayoss2306]

That's amazing Lady T, how wonderful for you! Keep going, I see no reason you can't be 100% from chronic pain. I think the key is creating a sense of safety in the nervous system, and for that we have to believe that we are safe, that we can be healed. There are brighter days ahead in your future!

[@ZenDebbie1111]

@@amandacarter291 dr Joe's teachings saved my life...🙏💚

[@mumsthwd]

When I heard that part it made me cry because I could relate to it in so many ways.

[@sandrac11]

What trauma release exercises have helped?

[@Tampatsmi]

OMG... What the Doctor said about a young lady going through a lot of drama and stress in her life and having chronic pain with no real physical injuries 😟. This really hit home for me. I've been through a hell of a lot. Childhood drama, relationship abuse, military ptsd. I feel like my whole body is shutting down at age 47. I eat healthy and exercise, but the pain is becoming dehabilitating. It's everywhere in my back, neck, knees, ankles. Every part that has a joint. 😭and no one listens to me because I look healthy on the outside.

[@Cenot4ph]

Check out the carnivore diet and what it has done for people with joint pains, I'm not at all sure it's related and if you've already considered it. At any rate, I hope you get through it

[@Tampatsmi]

@@Cenot4ph Thank you. I will try that.

[@ija04]

Same here😢

[@chrisnam1603]

@Bee, yes, i so relate... now, in my case, it does show, bc of the exhaustion. I know where my trauma 'lays', the relationship is so hard, and i've found an idea to never talk to her again 'alone', always be sure that at least one person is present, so no harm can be done... it's said easily, by some, to just not botther etc

[@tnt01]

yoga is the best for ptsd. read the book " the body keeps the score"

[@slowdown3787]

This is probably the most profound interview I have ever heard. Every single sentence holds truth and value, with so many revelations spoken beautifully. Thank you to both doctors. To all who have chronic pain I'd say that you're past the largest hurdle if you are here, and send you strength and support in your journey.

[@sallicastillo4041]

Thank you....these Dr's. are so right everything they say are so right on .

[@marietamccune84]

Completely agree! ❤

[@galacticwarrior4089]

Lets gooo!!!!!

[@galacticwarrior4089]

What hurdle? There is nothing wrong with our body. We Re already healed

[@yesic7196]

Compassionate doctors, rare these days ❤

[@JoJo-ve3fl]

Only 10 minutes into this and I’m in tears. This is making so much sense to me. I have chronic pain that is at times debilitating. Can’t wait to watch the rest of this video. Thank you

[@alialiouinne7851]

hope you feel good and get healed soon

[@rogerl8148]

please look up Dr Joe Dispenza! You are the placebo. And Wim Hof. You are a powerful being!

[@CMoore8539]

Me too and this video is making a whole lot of sense. Take good care of you.💞

[@san.magic007]

Once, I was told by a ‘’health professional’’ that my back can not completely heal because ‘’it’s not a 20 years old back’’. I was about 45 years old at that time and it was really disheartening to hear that. However, I did get better! Thank you so much for speaking about this topic as it’s very important! 🙌

[@solocyclist3993]

Doctors are crooks

[@dorothymasey2784]

I am a doctor in Obstetrics and study Psychology when I came to live in the UK. I have found that children copy the symptoms of their parents !! Thank you this is a great talk !!

[@bethmiller6827]

@@dorothymasey2784 So do pets!

[@sundancesuccess]

@@dorothymasey2784 Yes!!! We believe it's normal for us to inherit it, and we copy the symptoms that create it, therefore, willing it into our lives because it's familiar & "normal." Been there and done that with spinal stenosis and degenerative disc dis-ease. Working on it now with Dr. Schubiner's "Unlearn Your Pain" workbook.

[@sundancesuccess]

@@bethmiller6827 Absolutely true! It's like they absorb it readily into their bodies as they love us so unconditionally! 🐾🐾❤

[@storkdoctor11]

These men are phenomenal. If every MD were like this …. Trained like this …..our medical system would not be nearly as toxic as it is .. excellent interview and information .

[@kairipaul5363]

I’m 😊😊 44:30 😊

[@Jess-wu9dx]

Toxic is the right word to use for the US system per my experience.

[@ritmolatino1627]

they are sales plp to the medication industry, exepst these 2

[@shaguftasheikh5337]

Very informative video. Would say this information provided would help those suffering from RA/Osteo condition and operation of knees been suggested for as padding has worn out. Your comments would help tremendously. Thanks.

[@hew195050]

If doctors were like this, there would not be people walking around in chronic pain.

[@SadafSaeedahmed]

The compassion of these doctors is really inspiring ❤

[@trishaprett7721]

I have chronic pain from hospital acquired injury.I can honestly say,that throughout my 3 year your eye have received little compassion,nor empathy from the Surgeons involved in my care.40 years of being a patient Advocate in my nursing career this has traumatised me more than the pain.

[@elisabethkorn17]

As a massage therapist, I can say I don't treat bulging discs. I treat human beings with bodies that store charge which our repressive social systems prevent people from understanding, discharding, and regulating. I facilitate discharge and regulation of the central nervous system and emotional body. People's bodies just need to be reminded that aware emotional regulation is their native birth right.

[@saraperez1742]

Hello @elisabethkorn17 I would like more information on this ? I’m going thru a lot of chronic neck and back pain headaches tenderness on my head scalp, effect my eyes as well blurry, Do I just look for a massage therapist ?

[@elisabethkorn17]

⁠@@saraperez1742 first I’m so sorry to hear you are having pain. I can’t make any recommendations for seeking therapy. It can be a journey finding the right therapies and right practitioners. Personally, I am very curious about the subject of health and wellbeing and I have found that reading books and watching videos by experts has helped me and empowered me a lot in my own journey out of chronic pain. Books, KZbin videos, and podcast interviews with the likes of Peter Levine, Pete Walker, Dick Schwartz, and Gabor Mate are essential for understanding the mind/body/emotion/conditioning connection. One of the coolest methods for healing pain is called PRI and a guy named Neal Hallinan has hundreds of free KZbin videos on it and I think he refers people to good practitioners of PRI. Also, it is kind of culty, but I love Harvey Jackins who founded Re-evaluation Counseling. It is a type of peer counseling that people can do with each other. Learning it is very low cost, and once you know how to do it, you can join the worldwide community and do it for free and work on discharging the distress built up in your central nervous system over a lifetime. Finding an exceptional massage therapist can be difficult because so few stay in the field longer than 5 years, but I love receiving all forms of bodywork and healing modalities. I have found it easier to find excellent acupuncturists and craniosacral/visceral manipulation therapists, but when I come across a great LMT who really gets me, I am hooked.

[@karencrawford7077]

I had an amazing Chiropractor/Functional Medicine practitioner that helped me immensely....but he move away about a year ago...:(

[@ynascent]

Can you make it more simple so even morons like me understand thx

[@terivaughn2575]

As a chronic pain sufferer (73 yrs old) of migraine/headaches, Fibromyalgia and auto immune gastritis, I only had to listen to 5 minutes of this Podcast to know my answers for miserable daily PAIN lies in what you are about to tell us. I have had pill after pill after pill, CAT scans, And chiropractic help all to no avail. Thank you thank you thank you and say

[@SynapticTransmission]

Smile, my friend. =8-)

[@jojojacques810]

Nutrition, meditation and yoga! Please give it a go! God bless you!! ❤️🙏 sending you so much love and a big virtual hug!!! ❤️🙏

[@tomsale5142]

You going to get better the fear has to leave the subconscious something ime fighting

[@RK-qk7ow]

Please, check DNRS, Gupta, Dr Joe Dispenza work and testimonials. It's about the brain!

[@amystein2291]

Teri Vaughn what worked for you specifically?

[@Nate1975]

I always say ‘get curious and develop relationship with your pain’ it’s there for a reason, it has a message. Trauma is a serious problem that always manifests in the body

[@nimy3071]

Wow

[@noreenjenny7039]

Yes, it is! Thank you for bringing it up. 😊

[@skippy7208]

Yes! Even anxiety does this - it’s a very physical thing 👍

[@jackiecoley7936]

Yes absolutley. The organs weep the tears the eyes refuse to shed ❤

[@suzanneleblanc1077]

Wow! At 18 min. in he completely described my wholee miserable life, I guess i'm not alone, the world's full of very broken people!

[@lindaelarde2692]

Dr Schubiner's work is a game changer. There is a documentary on his work called "This might Hurt" that took years to complete so it's from a few years ago. It shows his work with actual chronic pain patients using emotional awareness and expression therapy. (EAET) It's powerful.

[@annabellaboyer643]

Thanks for your coment?@Lindaelarde2692.

[@visualthinking]

Thank you, Linda.

[@tricia222]

Thanks for naming the film. Xx

[@Jess-wu9dx]

Thank you! I'll look it up.

[@HannahDowling]

Some doctors "got it" many years ago! A GP I had about 40 years ago, told me the occasional severe pains in my chest were tension pains. Understanding this I was able to deal with them better. When I returned to this GP sometime later with severe stomach pains she told me that while I stayed in my difficult situation I would continue to get pains! I took her advice seriously and managed to get out of a very difficult marriage. I can't say I had no more pains but at least I had learned to look at my lifestyle for solutions before anything else.

[@mikaelamathews9790]

Thank you for sharing this

[@sharynmain2432]

I am glad that you had someone in ‘your corner’ as an ally, the world of difference can occur as a result.

[@lindaelawson9415]

I've lived for fifty years with MEFM (except for 6 years I managed to achieve complete remission from chronic fatigue and near-complete remission of fibromyalgia pain.) How I wish I'd heard about this decades before! For everyone who has ever been told "It's all in your head" with agonizing pain, this is the video to watch. These are two wondrously compassionate and wise doctors who have experienced what they speak of. Wonderful! Gives me SO much hope that I can override a lifetime hypervigilance. (I was born 3 months early because of a violent car accident that totaled our car, which is common with fibro - violent births, or early childhood trauma.) We learn to be hypervigilant from birth, or babyhood - which later with tons of inescapable stress can turn into fibromyalgia or other chronic illnesses. 13 car accidents added to that, as did childhood bullying (though thankfully I was taught to fight back.) I have SO much more hope - I can and will overcome this again! And now I have wondrous new pieces of the puzzle to help me heal.

[@johnmitchell8925]

I sure hope you gave up driving 🤯

[@thedancingdivaofdaviestree2320]

@@johnmitchell8925 Funny man! Actually, I'm a great driver and the accidents were all but one someone else's fault entirely. I sued 3 of 'em, and got enough money to go to Europe. (Interestingly, after I did a rebirthing EMDR session about my first accident that thrust me into the world 3 months early, I never had another accident. Trauma counselor Peter Levine talks about that - how somehow we go through the major trauma in our lives over and over - even when it's outside our control like someone hitting me from behind or running a red light straight into my car door!)

[@nkosinathinotototo8843]

Best interview ever ❤sometimes you get tired of trying to explain this moving pain to doctors because their facial expressions say it all. And It cuts deeper than those who say "it's in your head."

[@cinders1413]

I was told I needed a hip replacement 18 months ago.I cancelled the operation 2 weeks before it was due as my gut instinct told me don't do it. I changed my diet dramatically, stopped physio, walk daily, started Qi gong and think I am healthy. I feel great there is sometimes a little tension in the groin when I sit too long but I'm sure that will pass also :)

[@MEhealthcoach]

The brain is powerful beyond anything we know and our bodies have an extraordinary ability to heal! Keep going. Good luck. Best wishes, K

[@olivesoondar1165]

Hi Cinders try using seamoss or things with collagen to rebuild the collagen in your bones , this should help a lot , use Alkaline o, boiled or filtered water ,no tap water , exercise & long walks , these should really help your bones

[@cinders1413]

@@MEhealthcoach Thank you very much

[@chaheea1913]

My dad is in great pain due to degenerative disease in his back. I am wondering if you can tell me what type of diet are you on to improve your health??

[@mikaelamathews9790]

Amazing so happy for you

[@janetryan4612]

What Howard said from min 15:15 - 15:48 hit my heart and made me realize what my life long experience with pain is rooted in...his validation brought tears to my eyes. ❤️

[@tammya5403]

Very powerful what he said

[@jamesbreedingcoach]

He's shows empathy which is sorely needed.

[@sharonlujan9497]

He really is wonderful isn't he/!!!

[@vv7299]

Lame

[@MelissaR784]

What a excellent interview with so much helpful information.

[@ingridsweeney1787]

My story: Fibromyalgia, very low vitamin D. Raised vitamin D blood levels, no more pain. Diagnosed with trigeminal neuralgia. Doctor prescribed pregabalin. I refused to take it. Went back to the dentist (3rd time) and insisted that it had originally started with ‘that tooth’. X-rayed it from a different angle and found a hairline crack. Once that was sorted, no more pain. Back pain for years. Went for Body Stress Relief, no pain now for 10 years. Headaches, related to caffeine withdrawal. Limited coffee to 3 cups a day. No more headaches

[@rajeevsinghal6439]

For body stress relief were you using massage or any other therapy ?

[@ingridsweeney1787]

@@rajeevsinghal6439 no other therapy

[@RealtorSharone_B_Wilson]

Thank you Doctor for explaining this and not just trying to medicate. Once I learned about Narcissistic Abuse and the Toxic People in my life who displayed such traits, I instantly started to heal from Emotional Trauma. My Mind Cleared, My Heart Opened and My Immune System rose in Levels I couldn’t understand. It’s because of Videos like this My Whole Life has Changed. #WhatPain #IFeelAmazing

[@johnklahn7720]

Thank you for sharing your story @sharonewilson9743. Bless this healing!

[@peaceandlove544]

You learned they exist (my parents) but how do you heal? Specially if you live and work with them?

[@MoJo65879]

I have spondylitis. When doctors see my CT scans they can't believe I am not in a wheelchair or painkillers. I had severe pain. I did 3 Ayahuasca ceremonies and a divorce from a toxic narcissist. I have zero pain now.

[@thedancingdivaofdaviestree2320]

@@MoJo65879 That's amazing. What was the most transformative moment in your ayahuasca ceremony? And good for you for leaving and divorcing an abusiver! That's so good to hear.

[@nicolemarieb.7044]

Pelvic pain, interstitial cystitis, pudendal neuralgia, etc. They all started with a physical trigger but the mind body issues are what made it chronic. I’ve been through everything with doctors. Mind-body work put me into about 80% remission. Dealing with trauma wasn’t really what did it for me, for me it was more exposure therapy. Daily exercise and exposing my body to things that would normally hurt but doing it in a slow safe manner. Also, teaching my brain not to catastrophize pain or fear that it is something serious. It’s very difficult to notice pain and not be stressed or upset by it, it’s sort of a skill to just acknowledge its existence and move on with your life. You’re not necessarily ignoring it, you’re accepting it. Eventually, the brain will start to rewire and your nerves will follow.

[@tomsale5142]

Ime exercising as able two years though still got the pain fybro or myofacial pain just labels always say diffarant great news how long did it take had on 25 years from fall alwys been perfectionist IC in certain areas hypomobility?

[@sti9767]

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[@tomsale5142]

@@sti9767 have you got same symptoms

[@birgittebroesbl-jensen4872]

Thank you Nicole. I for the time being are reading Schubingers book ‘Unlearn your pain’ and will try to follow his method - both dealing with trauma and physical training and then we shall see what happens 😊

[@birgittebroesbl-jensen4872]

@@tomsale5142 25 years that’s awful- what a waste of one’s life. I am so sorry for you. I am not sure that we have gotten the same symptoms. I have this neuropathy pain - thingling burning on my skin all over the lower part of my body. My skin is hyper sensitive and having clothes and shoes on is a problem - and psychical exercise makes it worse. In addition I’ve got very tense muscles - in the pelvic area all the time but also now and then in my abdomen, diafragma, all the beast area. This started to get worse 3 to 4 months ago. I get medicine- it helps to some extent…

[@joleverett9438]

I never comment but have to say, thank you Dr Chatterjee. Hopefully you know how much what you do helps people like me who couldn't see a way forward. I've only just understood at 55, how narcissistic my parents were, because I just disassociate mentally, but in adult life that doesn't help! Thank you again for what you do! x

[@bliss4383]

I crossed paths with a Paranoid Narcissistic Psychopath six years ago. Whenever there’s a pathologically disordered person in your life, you are harmed. They alter the trajectory of your life, and it’s only been recently that I revisited this site, thinking at 70, I would never be involved in a relationship with the opposite sex, and I still don’t think so. So I didn’t pay much attention to it. But since revisiting the site, more research has been done on the Cognitive Dissonance experienced by the victims/targets of these toxic people. And the character traits of the victims/targets, which are highly sought after by the toxic. Not sure how this insight applies to someone whose parents were toxic, as most children become like their parents and wouldn’t likely have learned these same character traits. And there’s a difference between someone who is Narcissistic and someone who meets the criteria of having Narcisisstic Personality Disorder. But only you know your situation, so I highly recommend first watching the three videos found on the homepage, where what I’ve said can be found, then peruse the site. You may find it very helpful. saferelationshipsmagazine.com

[@Venusbabe66]

13:57 Wow! The doctor essentially described my life experience - from critical narcissist alcoholic father to being targeted by my covert narcissist ex-husband of 17yrs who I eventually had the sense to leave but had to start life again at age 36 with nothing but my 2 cats. Yes depression, anxiety, and c-PTSD for the last 20 years have followed and continue due to being expected to be carer for my stroke affected father and empath codependent mother. It's exhausting, but at least now I can mitigate the symptoms and do self care when needed. I'm a yes to headaches, scoliosis, neck and back pain, joint pain, and fatigue. I'm floored hearing a doctor talk about this in this way. Thank you!

[@annemccarron2281]

I think it's way past time we stopped allowing narcissists to get away with the abuse they propagate. Many Americans unknowingly elected a flaming narcissists for president, but now that we know, why do people keep supporting this horrible being?

[@kerimeditations]

Hello, I loved this talk. My daughter is 13 and diagnosed with Ehlers Danlos syndrome at age 7. She's had chronic pain her whole life, but never taken pain meds. She refuses but uses distraction techniques to help deal with the pain instead. I'm a nurse and 100% believe in mindfulness based stress reduction to reduce chronic pain. I've been studying it for over 5 years now. This really hit home when he talked about people with diagnoses that they have been told are incurable. My daughter has just learned to deal with the everyday pain, but retaining the brain to believe we can be pain free by assessing further instead of just feeling like there's no hope was eye opening. I looked for the app for healthcare providers, but probably not available in the United States? Thank you for this! I'll look for the book.

[@aliceunawai5346]

I missed his name is it Dr Chattergee his contact ?to get his books etc can u put on your website ? This is an excellent interview. Thanks 👍

[@susanfudge1737]

You should read of Milton Erickson. He was confined to his bed as a child and was self taught on hypnosis. Became a renowned therapist who used hypnotherapy.

[@Poemsapennyeach]

What a wonderful man Schubiner is,,,so glad I heard what he had to say. I .leapt out of bed. this morning..(having groaned and moaned for some weeks with neck..shoulder and hip pains)...smiling and saying OUT LOUD...I'm SAFE. Spread some extra raspberry jam on my toast to celebrate !

[@annchesher9891]

I had an MRI on my cervical spine for paid and stiffness, and the doctor said to me that I had degeneration and some spondylosis, but my cord was fine however he told me that if my cord got pinged I could end up in a wheelchair my symptoms I’ve got worse ever since. I was an avid gym goer and have hardly been since

[@Jaimely08]

Putting together my kids basketball hoop, the base full of water fell on my left foot, my ankle got swollen and my skin was sensitive but it didn’t hurt; everyone keep asking if it hurts, it looks bad it must hurts, I’ll say it doesn’t hurt and my family think I’m laying. It really doesn’t hurt, I refuse to keep repeating because then it really will hurt. I can tolerate pain very well and don’t complain about it, most of the time I ignore it and it goes away. I don’t allow my mind to control me! 😊

[@amandawilliams448]

This probably the most informative interview I've ever heard. I wish all doctors would listen to this.

[@tammy_EndoFitnessClub]

OMG being someone who has suffered of endometriosis chronic pain and had practice this. I can’t thank you enough for sharing this. I teach females with endo and people with chronic pain to reframe their pain and I have struggle to feel support from the medical system. Seems like all doctors just want to give pills and not spending the time educating. This message and the work you guys are doing is so important 👏🏽 thank you so much 🙏🏽

[@j333z]

Yes and some drs give medicine and don't really ask questions like what do you eat and what's you're lifestyle etc some do and some don't ask at all. Some don't ask how much do you sleep and some don't suggest dietary changes and vitamins that may help.

[@robertalust5466]

So when I have a severe migraine with aura…or joint problems because of an autoimmune disorder. I should just think of it differently That’s it?

[@tammy_EndoFitnessClub]

@@robertalust5466 it’s not about thinking differently. It’s about trying to find the root cause or triggers of your migraine. Are you tracking your sugar content? For example. Have you done an internal review of food / migraine relationship? For example; One of my clients gets a migraine if she consumes chocolate or wine. So those are things that she now completely removed from her diet. It doesn’t mean that she never gets a migraine now (because migraines can be set off hormonally too), but she has reduced the set of migraines by a significant amount. Endometriosis is also an immune disorder, I improved mine (and I said improved because there is no cure for endo) many of my symptoms by following and maintaining a anti-inflammatory diet.

[@robertalust5466]

@@tammy_EndoFitnessClub I don’t eat any sugar and I’ve done several elimination diets..and I have found several foods I need to avoid and I do just that I don’t drink…don’t have any caffeine, sugar , or wheat..chocolate is one of mine too I had a hysterectomy a year ago…(I was 29) And I kept my ovaries…but because of this my hormones are monitored very regularly and nothing has come up.. But I still get major migraines…and frequently that require medication.. Meds, Botox, and PT for dizziness are helpful…but I still get them too often.. Real concrete solutions…not just “oh chances your mindset” The fact of the matter is my career..and life in general is not migraine or sensory friendly so I have to adapt… But that is practical and has nothing to do with positive thinking..

[@growintoyourmanifestation]

Omg i suffer from endometriosis and adenomyosis. This is the comment i have been looking for

[@karendeluce9131]

Wow! This is the biggest light bulb moment I have had in the last two years of being knocked for six by chronic fatigue and burning mouth syndrome. It has connected so many dots. Thank you so much.

[@kelliannrichardson2704]

I have had chronic back pain for many years, ( DDD, spinal stenosis, etc ). I discovered some books written long ago by DR. JOHN SARNO speaking about this exact subject you are speaking of today. His teachings changed my life..I took myself off all of my medications some of which were strong narcotics. Thank you for talking about this today

[@kelliannrichardson2704]

Good luck to you. Hope you find the books helpful. There are a few You Tube videos as well

[@cerberusb4768]

So nice to hear that! What are the teachings of Dr. Sarno about? Are there certain exercises he recommends? I am very interested, because I have some pain issues. Thanks in advance!

[@ethimself5064]

@@cerberusb4768 Looks like you will need to look this up in KZbin

[@martienicholls7251]

Dr.John Sarno’s book “Healing Back Pain” changed my life 45 years ago. Teaching me that the body remembers pain even when the original reason for it has healed.

[@martienicholls7251]

So glad that you gave credit to Dr. Sarno. Thank you.

[@KillerCammy85]

Its so so important to advocate for yourself in the health care system. If you need to go for a second, third, fourth opinion then dont hesitate. My Endometriosis specialist saw the drugs I was put on for pain and couldnt believe it at my age (mid 20s) and said to me that me being on meds like that is usually a red flag in the system because it tells them my problems are not being treated properly. My specialist says one of the hardest thing is to get med students to further their education after getting their GP. He said there are specialties that need doctors but students dont want to have to take on more debt (who could blame em). I was eventually sent to a pain clinic that tackled pain from the brain not the localized area. They give you recomendations for diet, excercise, PT, etc so it can be tackled by a whole body and mind approach. Edit to add: I had a failed surgery due to scar tissue buildup, spent my mid 20s being bed ridden before finding my specialist. Dont give up, I know its easier said than done but it can be done. I had so many suicidal thoughts because I felt trapped in my body. My specialist gave me my life back but it took going through several doctors and a couple failed surgeries before I found the proper help. I had to travel about an hour away to see him and luckily if I didnt have my own car I had a ride. I come from a privileged background, there are people that dont have the ability to access specialists, whether due to financial or economic constraints. Add on the US medical insurance system and people are even more restricted where they can go. Its terrible. Access is a big problem. Dont give up, you are worth fighting for.

[@18_rabbit]

yep. Glad u got help. Increasingly its the case that even though more ppl have insurance now, there aren't enough of particular medical providers including psychologists e.g. , in major cities! Something is deeply wrong about the incentives/disincentives in the mish-mash american non-system of healthcare, non market. Men like me, even though middle aged, still avoid going to the doctor unless something is clearly wrong, even though i'm steeped in science and have lived super clean and right, to be healthy. A system that causes us to strongly want to avoid using it, is a fraudulent system if it also takes huge amounts of lower-middle income ppl's incomes as health insurance premiums. It's b.s. And i grew up 'middle class'. The US has turned into a cheap mcCorporate hellscape and i'm tired of it. So far i've decided to not have a child yet due to the socio-political factors over the past 12 yrs. Young women are saying the same thing re having a child. Something's gotta give, bcuz we can't just have ultraconservatives having children! lol

[@tylersgrignoli9277]

Can you tell me where you went to your specialist? I'm going through something similar

[@tiamo_danielle]

I love how Dr. Schubiner responded to Dr. Chatterjee’s story about his own back pain and his father’s passing. What a beautiful way to frame that story. Thank you ❤

[@jetterbuglove]

Watching This made me emotional several times, I am a mess and have been in pain for 7 years. Had all kinds of blood tests done by a couple doctors and get nowhere but them trying to put me on anti depressant meds that i don't want. I have had a fair amount of mental trauma in my life. I wish I could find a doctor like you in Utah 😥

[@cthornton523]

There are doctors of osteopathy in Utah, my friend. It's a proper doctor who practices holistic treatment. Have look & good luck my friend.

[@christinaolmos1293]

Start with dr.joe silva meditation and dr.joe dispenza

[@annasujatha]

To add to the Story above, I was diagnosed with lungs affected by the pigeons that invaded my balcony in huge no’s. which I could only shake off by building a strong metal frame.

[@annasujatha]

Sujatha’s Strory

[@flaviodfalcao]

I would recommend Pain Free You channel on youtube and the book The way out

[@KiwikimNZ]

Thank you to you both for your empathy and compassion, it is very refreshing to hear two Drs, who reinforce the human aspect of pain. Chronic pain patient (and nurse) after multiple neck and thoracic fractures and fusions, who has seen many specialists over the years, I have walked away feeling so unheard and dismissed due to the attitude of these people, who can at times, re traumatise by forgetting the human aspect of those they are treating. ❤ thank you for your humanity

[@lisbethbird8268]

@KiwikimNZ have you seen the episode with Dr. Joe Dispenza? It would complement this one. Talking about meditation practices for healing...anything. But he's a chiropractor who healed himself of a devastating spinal injury, avoiding major surgery.

[@KiwikimNZ]

@@lisbethbird8268oh wow. Thank you ❤

[@lisbethbird8268]

Hi! Please do look up that episode. I saw your reply right away because I just finish a live streamed healing meditation and decided to check notifications. I relieve d pain you can too.💚💚@@KiwikimNZ

[@lisbethbird8268]

@@KiwikimNZ kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2fPeqdvaLKerqcsi=YNkRknz8EJlynhaU

[@yesic7196]

This comment makes me emotional. I have also been unheard and they retraumatize making things worse. I also appreciate their compassion and empathy, I don't hear much of this today.

[@jeanmailloux9397]

Lord please heal my stomach pains and suffering in Jesus holy name I pray Amen

[@angelathornbury3750]

I’ve had fibromyalgia my whole life. Worst thing I’ve experienced was having two undiagnosed heart attacks, due to being a fibromyalgia patient. Sometimes it’s not neurological, and it puts people like me in danger. But, listening to this talk is somewhat helpful as I now understand “ listen to your body” it’s telling you something. Doctors have to diagnose and work under government protocols and it restricts them from thinking outside the box. I take a whole lot of various medication which is necessary and somewhat life saving for my heart . Any medications and pain killers absolutely do not work on my chronic fibromyalgia pain, psychological self talk is the only thing I can do manage fibromyalgia pain. The human body is complex, medication and treatment has been boxed into a one size fits all. Doctors are over worked and regulated by so many rules, where they can’t do things by law.

[@marciaouellet1]

@Angela Thornbury avoid Gluten of your life - make sure about your Vitamin D , glycinate magnesium, level ( it’s the GPS to bring calcium to your body, if u are lack of it calcium goes to your bones

[@ursulabarajas3022]

Got diagnosed with FM many years ago. Praying to get off the meds the family physician gives me. Just want to live a normal life. No family support. Anxiety is another factor because of pain. Eating gluten free, take vitamins and algae calcium for my bones. This Physician is amazing! Wish l could visit him. Most likely to far away.🥲🙏

[@alexandraalbertz1442]

I had Chronic Fatigue Syndrom for 4 years. I got completely dissabled. And had pain also. I am fully recivered now with the help of a brain retraining program,based on Neuroplastisity called ANS Rewire. Full recovery is possible but is a lot of work. The hardest thing I did in my life. If you want to watch and listen to my recovery story, search on youtube CFS Unravel episod 10. Good luck to you all.

[@angelathornbury3750]

@@SacredOwl wow , that sounds interesting tell me more , you might be onto something. I know I’m worse during a full moon , that’s another story

[@bliss4383]

Western Medicine leaves a lot to be desired. For the most part, all they do is prescribe meds or do surgery to remove what’s w with you. And if you’re not sick, they make no money, so they have little to no desire to actually cure you. My daughter have been receiving various treatments from a local Alternative Med office, and so far our insurance companies are paying all beyond our standard co-pays. Perhaps you could find such a place like ours. Here’s ours. Allow the homepage to run through some of the services they offer, then check out their full menu to see more. I’m not sure, but I don’t recall the treatment I received is even on the Menu, but it sure did provide me with relief, if only temporary. I say temporary because I am a Polio survivor, and the most damage it did to my body was in my lower spine…the dorsal lumbar. I’ve dealt with chronic pain since the age of sixteen, and I’m now 70. I’ve heard enough about back surgeries gone bad, so it’s never been an option for me. I found Yoga to be very helpful, as it stretches and strengthens my muscles to support my spine. The treatment I received is called Soft Tissue Mobilization. It’s a type of Physical Therapy. The muscles around the site of pain or injury build up Lactic Acid, which stiffens the muscle tissue. This type of PT breaks up that Lactic Acid, thus loosening up the muscles. I felt great for several days, and if it weren’t Polio, I’d consider it a healing. I’ve since been diagnosed with Osteoarthritis, Degenerative Disc Disease, and Ankylosing Spondylitis (curvature of the spine). These doctors never got the memo that I was a Polio survivor because it wasn’t listed on my chart at my doctor’s office. Which is crazy. Anyway, here’s my local Alternative Med office. Perhaps you could find a similar office in your area. www.bransonhealingarts.com

[@DittoTheG]

One of the best conversations ive heard for quite a long time. I really enjoyed hearing Dr Schubiner & Catterjee talk about the power of our emotions. I struggle myself with chestpains when im going to bed, and they come from out of nowhere, where i suffer from great anxious thoughts of having a sudden heart attack as an healthy 28 year old. I've been to the doctors who can't find anything wrong with my heart, and that i'm healthy. Eventhough i still get the same pains once im trying to relax in bed. This gives me some further understanding in why it could be this way, having a lot in School, troublesome relationship with my mom, recently moved to a new city, trying to find new friends. Sometime it feels overwhelimg, which indeed could cause my body to try and signal to me that i need to relax and ground myself in a way. Crying while im writing this, but it feels amazing in the same time. Thanks for all of your work Rangan, I appriciate you a lot. (Have read all of your books btw) Sorry for the long post about myself, but i felt it was nescessary to vent abit. Take good care of yourself out there, selfcare is the best thing you can do in your life. Best regards from Oscar in Sweden.

[@tejaswinizumbre]

It wasn't a long post.. don't be sorry.. Thanks for sharing ur story.. Every experience is helpful to someone.. pls don't hesitate to share.. Wishing you quick recovery and complete healing... God bless.. 🙏🌸🌺🌺🌺🌸🌺

[@scrumptiousjdp]

❤ ❤ 💙 💜

[@babsk4071]

💕🕯💐👋🤗🇺🇸 So…btw-means by the way! Ha I Just learned that🎉🙃

[@MonaLisa-lu8zi]

Try this: I had that at some point in my life and what I learned to do was talk to my heart ♥. I would place my hand across the left hand side of my chest where my heart resides and calm it by talking to it. I found that my heart reacted almost immediately and soothed. I cannot recall if I spoke words (love) to it or just thought them. It worked. 🤔

[@LeanAlgo]

I was in your situation few months back, cold water shower [10 - 20 degc ok], cold exposure, eat only twice, try fasting 1 day in a week or take 1 meal that day, along with vipassana meditation, playing shuttle or running to get sweating helps a lot. I suffer from narcissist abuse.

[@alexwoolley5173]

The back story resonates with me greatly, I had a similar injury and ended up with chronic, daily back pain that became so severe I often thought about suicide, it went on for over 2 years. I then, thankfully stumbled across research similar to this and started to dive in to the subject. I then started moving my back more and gradually started to over ride the routine my nervous system had taken on. I'm now completely pain free again, it took almost a full 12 months to reset and recallibrate the central nervous system but it worked, I will never forget my journey for a s long as I live.

[@donnalawrence9054]

Thank you for your comment. I am listening. I know that pain when you don't want to live anymore or be around anyone ( me). I have pain for 33 years. I will be 59. It was the worst in 1999and 2000. If my Mom wasn't alive then , I might not be here. I don't know if I could have done it. I was sick of not being able to do Anything. Reflexology, acupressure , chiropractor and a couple other things saved me. My then new chiropractor saved me from an ankle replacement. ✌️

[@ImperviouslyGaming]

What did u do exactly? Im 3 year chronic pain in my hand.. tried pt, ignoring it, working thru pain etc. Resting.. nothing worked

[@alexwoolley5173]

@@ImperviouslyGaming I completely changed my mindset, I realised I was worrying about it and subconsciously protecting the way I moved which was, in turn, sending messages to my brain to say I was damaged so therefore my brain sent MORE pain to make me protect the area more. It's complicated but pain is NOT an accurate measure of tissue health, pain is a protector which is why you can have pain without injury. If you look up Lorimer Mosely and Peter O'Sullivan on here, they're pain specialists and go into great details of what really goes on when we're in pain

[@nibbatron6283]

May I ask what your injury was? I have a friend who has severe chronic back pain from a car accident, causing damage in their spine and hip (they might have to get spinal fusion in the future and they're also suicidal), and just want to get a better understanding of how much this reframing method could help those whose chronic pain's caused by severe structural issues.

[@nibbatron6283]

May I ask what your injury was? I have a friend who has severe chronic back pain from a car accident, causing damage in their spine and hip (they might have to get spinal fusion in the future and they're also suicidal), and just want to get a better understanding of how much this reframing method could help those whose chronic pain's caused by severe structural issues.

[@edwardlyons6965]

OMG, the first twenty minutes of this is a light bulb moment for me. Since about the age of 8, I've had chronic migraine headaches. I will be contacting my doctor to access my medical notes to identify exactly when the headaches started. I'm now aged 57. On 24 December 1973, my father broke my mother's jaw with a punch whilst they were out socially. As a result of this, I, as the oldest of four children (ages 7, 6, 3 and 2), two weeks before my eighth birthday, I had to sleep in the same bed as my father for a month. My mother couldn't be disturbed whilst sleeping for obvious reasons. Growing up, violence was always potentially a second away. As the oldest, perhaps, whilst quite resilient, perhaps I bore the most burden of this potential violence. My mother died a few years ago. She was going blind in one eye. The eye consultant said the injury was unique and was due to a historic event. Here is the horrendous line - the eye going blind was on the opposite side of her face to the punch. It must have been some punch. Alas, the bstard is still alive. Although my two brothers and sister have spoken to my father over the years since our parent's divorce in 1995, I haven't spoken to him in 30 years. Before the funeral, I told a relative I know still speaks to him that if he turned up at the funeral, I would have him arrested for disturbing the peace. I knew he would receive this message, and he knew I was serious. He didn't turn up to the funeral. Until watching this video, I thought my headaches would be with me till the end. May be they will disappear when the bstard dies.

[@sunkencubeoctahedron7844]

I'm so sorry, Edward. I hope you can forgive what seems unforgivable and have some peace...

[@EarCandyAsmr]

they might go away when you forgive him and release the past. Not forgiving him for him but for your own peace. The resentment might be causing the pain. A book that helped is called Lettinf Go: the pathway to surrender - I hope you are feeling some relief from your pain today ❤ only others with chronic pain understand 🥹

[@baddriver3580]

I have been told that the pain in my back, neck and throughout my spine was "in my head" until I found a good orthopedic surgeon to get to the bottom of it,, he was PISSED when I told him what I'd been through.. I had 2 bulging discs, one rupture in my neck! Surgery was unavoidable but didn't take the pain away but did help! Pain isn't always in your "head" !!!

[@pashwayar]

You’re missing the point slightly. The pain is very real but often the CAUSE is in the mind.

[@tomsale5142]

No sycosomatic pain is tension altered physical changes in the body caused by the mind this is why Dr Sarno coined TMS because the confusion hysteria is in brain nucleai only

[@anlazary6280]

So happy to see more doctors treating patients not only with body approach but including the mind, body and soul. This interview reminds me the work of Dr John Sarno. Thank you ✨🙏🏼✨

[@krishnaspikegrrl1088]

And Dr Joe Dispenza! Just awesome, great to see it coming to the mainstream finally.

[@patriciacarlyle9456]

And Gabor Mate’

[@Dzanarika1]

@@patriciacarlyle9456 Gabot Mate is awesome.

[@tomsale5142]

Are you cured

[@i.ehrenfest349]

Can you imagine what it would be like if most doctors were like these men? It would be a radically different world.

[@claudelalonde1732]

Great! I had a daily migraine for 18 months and have been trough all the medical tests cited at the beginning. All gone after 2 months of talking in psychotherapy. Never had any headache more than once a year after that.

[@sharonlujan9497]

This doctors calming tone an educated dialogue has given me new hope in dealing w my chronic pain!!

[@julielazaroff4796]

I love this man, Howard Schubiner. It is rare to listen to such a compassionate doctor. Thank you for this interview, Dr. Chatterjee.

[@doritahenriques3641]

What an excellent video 🙏 The biggest problem as I see it is no one has time to listen to you, especially your GP. But he has time to write you a prescription because with it comes the commission, and the longer you're on it, the better. It's a very sad world, and I, for one, wish the real dance halls would come back, the old-fashioned dance, where could meet, have a laugh, a drink a dance the night away, or just sit and watch as I once had two 90 years old enjoying a barn dance for charity, just sitting and watching. At the end they came to me and asked, when are you doing the next one ?"

[@michelefinizio6520]

❤ thank you that was an excellent interview. I needed that. I came from a traumatic abusive childhood up into 20 yrs old for many years suffering with physical health issues one after another another the Lord Jesus Christ is setting me free with his holy word and his love giving me peace I'm believing what his word says about me and stop believing in all the lies learning to receive his love to love myself and to be compassionate with myself as he's with me

[@GMc-iw2fy]

Very interesting. At present I'm in a lot of pain with sciatica. After listening to this , I think my chilhood traumas and subsequent poor life decisions are causing my back and sciatica/ stenosis. I'm just so grateful , thank you.

[@Charlie-lp3cg]

Hi same as sciatica fot 10 long yrs ..check out john sarno .absolutely brilliant..he's on KZbin ❤ you'll be better in no time

[@DS-rd9qn]

I was hoping Schubiner would would come on this show. His work is brilliant for pain and also for ME/CFS (just substitute the word 'pain' for 'fatigue' and it all works). His book "unlearn your pain" is great and I would recommend if to anyone. I would also recommend the Curable App, the work of Irene Lyon and I would really recommend 'The Fibro Guy'. All have helped me SO MUCH. Oh yeah, its also good for people with things like IBS.

[@kayoss2306]

I've been pretty much cured of ME/CFS and fibro by doing mind-body work like Dr Schubiner, curable etc. I occasionally feel symptoms coming back but it's my red flag that I'm letting stress build up and I need to look after my mind better, and so I'm kinda grateful for it.

[@MEhealthcoach]

@@kayoss2306 Hi Kay. Me too!

[@Intoxicanna]

NAET changed my life. I didn’t really have fibromyalgia or CFS, I just had layered food allergies. (Nambudripod’s Allergy Elimination Treatment )

[@angelanelson5061]

12:40 - 15:50 Wow. I am 34 and the story you made up closely resembles mine. Hearing this is the first time I have felt heard and not crazy. I can't even explain what that feels like after even my own family tells me to ' think positively' away serious traumas starting in my childhood. They went as far as to tell me I caused my pain because I put myself into bad life situations and they or society shouldn't have to 'pay' for my choices. Who the heck would intentionally do that? I'm pretty sure my 5 year old self did not ask for this, which is when my start of a very long list of trauma starts. I've lived with severe debilitating pain labeled with endless diagnosis' for over 10 years, most of which some people don't believe is real. It started with headaches and ibs in high school after more and more trauma. Hopefully it ends with my last abusive relationship. He left our marriage of 7 years via text message... Now thankfully I found an angel on earth and am trying to figure myself and life out so I can live. Thank you for this video. Moments like this literally keep me alive.

[@ascend555]

Stay balanced and grounded 🧘‍♂️🙏☯️

[@janetmckegg7876]

Just ask yr angel

[@annemccarron2281]

Be careful about "finding your angel on earth." Most people who have been abused go into another abusive relationship. I did -2 marriages with 2 narcissists and 2 children with each. My mother was a narcissist, my sister, maternal grandfather, paternal grandmother, aunts, uncles, cousins - it's all I knew! I've learned to be happy as a single person & love myself so I don't have to depend on others to feel good about myself.

[@PassionatLee]

@@annemccarron2281 *Hi Anne* ... Your story sounds just like my story, although I have brothers rather than sisters. Lee xox

[@Moonie787]

Yes, same! ❤❤❤ hang in there 🫂💐✨ you’re definitely not alone

[@ronnie-lynn]

I suffered from a work injury 7 years ago. I have been on disability over 6 years. I have Chronic migraines & Myofacial Pain Disorder, which is a Chronic Pain Disorder for going on 7 years. My Physiatrist does trigger point injections and it’s helpful. I also lost my smell and taste 6 years ago, and I know it’s in my brain that my brain is not processing smells and tastes. It’s not my nose or tongue. It’s my brain not processing (wish I could understand why) I have recently gone back to work, but a different role. Due to my injury & pain. I have worked very hard at physical healing, emotional healing, working through therapy for almost 3 years. Over coming debilitating depression, learning triggers and how to live a slow life to live a better quality of life. I’m blessed to have done a program with workers compensation for chronic pain and brain injury. I learned so much about the brain and Nero plasticity and chronic pain disorders. I do have permanent restrictions due to my injury. With lifting, pulling and pushing etc and I have some muscle deterioration. So are you saying I can completely heal my injury snd rebuild my strength back completely ?? Because I have done multiple physical therapy programs treatments. I still do my stretches and exercises given from the Physio daily.??? So then what am I doing wrong? Great great podcast! ❤

[@Ra-rg1vk]

When my dad passed suddenly, I was so overcome with grief that I got this real bad chest pain

[@calista1280]

Ra, That was literally your heart breaking with grief... 😔

[@c.brownell8618]

I am so pleased that what is being said here, is finally being recognised. How daughters often carry the trauma and pain created by their father's behaviour, for example. Fibromyalgia for example.

[@sharynmain2432]

This hits home for myself with a previous friend over 20 years and I always felt her family role was as a scapegoat and caretaker for her family. This is not judging her fibromyalgia, as I had had two medical life threatening issues and wanted to be a support for her. And yes, as females ( this is not a competition theory, or a blame one) it is just a true fact, also along with the children who are under adults care, are also drawn into these harmful and corrosive situation. We all need to look after ourselves first so we can then help others.

[@debbiechadwick861]

Losing 100 lbs relieved 90% of my chronic pain. Then i entered into a different mindset and have very little pain now for 4 yrs.

[@angelamossucco2190]

“The most important thing I do for my patients is to listen to them and to show them empathy.” Minute 1:16:08-10.❤ That is *exactly* the same as myself regarding my role as a teacher. It is beautiful to hear that mirroring the concerns of a patient can help. It certainly helps students. How can physicians change medical schools to recognize trauma and to make trauma- informed medicine the norm? Only 15% success in elective chronic pain back surgery *compared to other cohorts* (ie less traumatized people) for those with 3+ ACEs is profound.

[@hautecouture2228]

Trauma comes from narcissists and psychopaths who abuse others. The medical system is run by those same people and it attracts narcissists and psychopaths as a profession as they get money, prestige and power over people. Doctors go through years of bullying and indoctrination until they become consultants. In the process they many get recruited into satanic secret societies such as freemasonry where they practice jewish kaballah and undergo humiliation rituals. That’s how they advance their careers and in turn they promote anti white and anti christian agendas in the hospital

[@JohnKeegan-sp1tj]

Tbis is absolutely brilliant so true chronic pain is not understood by the medical profession what we need is empathy and understanding

[@kanchanak5708]

Rengan you are so blessed to have this awakening and to bring this medical knowledge to the world. It have taught meditation for the last decade and have experienced an alleviation of chronic pain IBS and depression but have not been able to explain it to my students medically. Keep doing the good work!❤ each episode is brilliant

[@Morningstar437]

Howard , Sarno,Dan these are the guys who pulled me out of the jaws of the chronic pain and they are the reason I am living my life normally again. I have started my own channel Mission Pain free (TMS WARRIORS) to help my Indian fellows as in India there is almost 0 percent awareness of the mind body connection or TMS.

[@courtneybronnerwilliams5771]

I was told in my teens I “had the back of a 50 year old” and told “good luck with that”…I am blessed to have been skeptical that was reality and was just showing me the limits of western medicine 🙏🏼

[@collcolls8638]

Im my frail 83 year old moms carer, i have chronic debilitating knee pain, this podcast was incredible!! Im going to listen to it and absorb this information and hopefully help myself lessen this pain by acknowledging the emotional triggers. Thank you so much for this interview

[@ascend555]

Epson salt baths and Palo Santo incense 🧘‍♂️🙏

[@claresmith9261]

Byron Katie’s teaching are so helpful… your thoughts can make pain way worse

[@heythave]

Your body is saying that caring for your mom is a toll for yourself and that is why your body is sending out that signal. But, you have no choice, right?

[@Blessedbloomingrose-ep5xi]

You can change that mindset by developing a new mindset. I am grateful that I have an amazing able body to look after my mum. Be appreciative of each opportunity to add value to my mum's life. See looking after my mum a blessing that a whole host of children do not have. You do have a choice to start seeing life as opportunity to make a different in someone's life.

[@unknownunknown2576]

Check out Barbara oniel natural healing videos please. Type in her name and ginger poultice. Really works. Please try it

[@sharonlujan9497]

I am no longer in danger cause no one knows where I am. I feel much better. I am safe and am not being forced to go out. I am living my life on my own terms, pain free an danger free. thank you drs. You have helped me tremendously.

[@Sheeesh310]

Thank you both for this conversation and shining some light on “illness n Dis-ease”!! 😊 We have to strive to get to the ❤ of the “matters”… Psycho-somatic the mind body n even spirit connection is real… my granny was a whol-istic healer who taught me this years ago… they’re All Connected; if one is off, the others are too… striking a balance between the 3 is essential… Know Thyself, Understand Thyself n Heal Thyself n be Kind to Thyself and begin to Forgive Thyself n Others ❤and never be afraid to ask for Help!… it’s an Inside Job! 🦋

[@adrianbratescu7015]

Ancient wisdom your granny was teaching you!

[@amys3126]

I found out about Dr. Schubiner (and some of his predecessors) about five years ago from a GoogleTalk. I used his book, Unlearn Your Pain, to help me through chronic neck and back pain, and now other recurring chronic pain. It's worth the time and effort to do the work in this book. I recommend it to all of my friends who experience chronic pain. (I have not been paid and will not be paid to recommend this physician or his book.)

[@Greenmanure62]

What a useful conversation. Very helpful indeed. I do have autoimmune immune arthritis (psoriatic). It was definitely triggered by stress. I've had all sorts of rheumatic meds, including biological. I realised pretty quickly that for me personally, these meds (apart from IM steroids) made things significantly worse. Side effects were frankly worse than the disease. Interestingly what I've realised recently is that I can make things better myself. This has come about mostly from my inability to access care from the NHS during the recent debacle. Apologies if that offends, but it's my view on the whole situation. In a sense I was forced into kicking my own butt. I do have significant damage from the arthritis, but I managed it with exercise and a kind of F you attitude in the beginning. The rage has dissipated now. My focus now is getting fit for a long distance walk and wild camp in Scotland. I'm 61. I do feel huge compassion for all those in pain. It totally stinks. The mind really is a magical thing though. Even with structural damage the way one thinks can lessen the pain, in my experience. Took me decades to understand that! Peace to all.

[@Fibrowarriorcoach]

@jeanette my story is the same as yours. I have Psoriatic arthritis and fibromyalgia triggered by stress. I take the meds and reliant on them as fearful if I don't take them, despite bring only mild relief, I won't be able to manage the pain. I try alternatives treatments but nothing works. I know my brain directs me to the pain, and it's now a default but how to break this I'm struggling with. I'd be interested to learn how you manage.

[@Greenmanure62]

@@Fibrowarriorcoach Hello there. Sorry to hear you are in pain. I absolutely feel for you. At times I do still have pain. I can tell you what works best for me. Keep in mind we are all different, so what works for me may not for you. It's a long road of discovery! Firstly, changing my diet has had the biggest impact. I was essentially eating crap. I've given up sugar and highly processed foods. Initially I put myself on a really strong elimination diet, cutting out all grains, sugar etc and sticking only to meat. Grains and sugar are a huge problem for me. As soon as I eat them I get gut issues, chronic cough and joint pain. I've tried several times to reintroduce them And I suffer. It is hard to stick to, not because its an unpleasant diet, I mostly struggle ATM because of the cost. Meat, eggs, butter and fish are hugely expensive! That said, I feel so unwell when I revert back to cheaper, highly processed foods it's just not worth it. I have to cut back on other things instead. For the time being I'm sticking to animal foods, but will incorporate some seasonal fruit and veg from my allotment (small amounts). I think each person has to find what works for them. That said, everyone would benefit from cutting back on sugar and processed rubbish I think. It's not a quick fix, but better (for me at least) than toxic meds. I wish you very good health ASAP.

[@gracedeamaral3933]

I had cancer and I wasn’t afraid nor did I cry. It was amazing.

[@_xanna]

Listen to your body when it whispers or you’ll be forced to hear its screams

[@mmhcreates]

Well said.

[@Lee91522]

Beautifully said! Thank you ❤️🙏🏻❤️

[@matt-3151]

nice and poetic but you’ve got no f**king idea what pain is. live a normal f**king life, normal f**king person and then bam suddenly you’re in pain worse than you could ever imagine and told you’ve got incurable cancer. that’s how this works. you don’t have a f**king clue. wish I could make you feel what a ‘body screaming’ is like maybe then you’d have an inch of a clue. make me feel like I’m paying for ‘nOt LIsTeNiNg to My BOdY’ smh sincerely, a cancer patient

[@arleenharcar3800]

​@@mmhcreates 8😮😮6666666😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

[@diedragarrett7941]

I will always carry this statement with me. Thank You

[@kangmofo]

It really resonated with me when he said "Don't do something just to do something cuz it can make it worse". There was a time when I went on a hospital spree after I got diagnosed with this medical condition. And every time I got something done to my body, I had several brand new symptoms come up, which added insult to my injury. If only those doctors took me as a unique individual rather than as one of the statistics, I wouldn't have had hard time like that. Now that I've learned my lesson, I can cope better with my condition.

[@monicaallmond2606]

So informative! We must "rethink" the whole healthcare system! Thanks for being honest about what needs to change in your profession

[@carolspencer6915]

Good evening to you both. Thankyou for your candid shared conversation. After nearly two decades of mental health addiction nursing. I find myself feeling most frustrated with our health/medical ethic. We clearly DONT work with the human, so to speak. Almost shameful considering all we know. Thankyou for your shared work. 💜

[@tonilamb2481]

120 appointments with medical practitioners, neurologists, therapists, etc for migraines of 65 years. I know it's mbs and having completed Dr Schubiners workbook, still struggling and feeling worse. It has exposed plenty of childhood and adult events which leave me almost bed bound and certainly housebound. Still looking for a practitioner who can take me through these and release me from the memories holding me hostage. I wish the other listeners and hope they are inspired to trust the process and find the right help.

[@lilylui1]

Try the healing codes

[@tonilamb2481]

@@lilylui1 Just ordered it. Thank you.

[@scoobtoober2975]

Have you tried various diets or eliminations. My two cents: I was a huge coffee head. I'd stop and get headaches for two days. Then back on it and same then when off or skipping days. OMAD (one meal a day) high saturated fat low carb cured the change outs of coffee. Stopping or starting. But I'm dabbling in stopping coffee for good. Mild back pain this whole time, just waking up. Seems to be something else to consider. Don't over drink water. it's not the problem in my opinion. I can dry fast all day and feel good too. Drink when thirsty is a dr's recommendation. Tim Nokes waterlogged book

[@tonilamb2481]

@@scoobtoober2975 I have a book case of diets specifically for migraines sadly and tried over 20 but thank you for the suggestion.

[@315katty]

Avoid MSG and make sure you also drink enough. I think this might also help you.

[@jcla2540]

Thank you doctors for this beautiful interview. I am so very grateful. My western trained family physician ordered MRI and X-rays for my pelvic pains and told me exactly what you said - that pain was from the discs and I needed surgery. I decided to wait and finally found a French doctor who was trained in integrative medicine. He adjusted my spine for 2 years on and off and I went to see him one day for same pelvic pain. He studied my chart and said you have been here for 3 Octobers in a row! I lived in Hong Kong and October was the season when climate suddenly goes from very humid to very dry. The cure was to hydrate!! I dodged a bullet for useless and potentially dangerous surgery in my mid thirties!

[@ojalajodi]

When he talked about that woman's life from childhood to adulthood. How she had a life time of stress and now has fibromyalgia made me come to tears. He mise well have been talking about me. It's nice to know some of these doctor's understand what is really going on. Very informative. Thank you so much.

[@priscilladiaz1230]

I struggled for 18 years and now at 26 I finally have my diagnosis! I too struggle every day but I do my best to live my life as if I have nothing, just with more breaks than before 😅. We got this!

[@sheejaeldo9311]

It was one of the most emotional interviews . Both being so genuine and clear in their explanation. Felt so touched by candid experiences of Dr Chatterjee and Dr Howard. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to see your podcasts regularly. 🙏

[@bievanvlierden34]

I found the notion of pain being an emotion incredibly interesting. The cycle and the viciousness and negative spiralling of it. It's like an eye-opener. I'm an EFT and EMDR practitioner and I'm convinced that this notion, this approach to chronic pain will influence my work. Thank you so much! Bie

[@gp9440]

My absolute favourite episode so far (been listening since the beginning). Had Long Covid for 17 months (just diagnosed as ME/CFS as unable to work and no one takes LC seriously!) Very, very real and debilitating symptoms....but the condition IS fluctuating, which gives me hope I can work on the neural pathways and explains the flare ups if the brain goes down and old pathway all of a sudden! (Like the man/vietnam veteran story) Will be buying the book!! (Unlearn your pain)

[@rajeeb3500]

Just a btw....benfotiamine has apparently been transformative for long COVID according to some

[@casario2808]

Im with you. I have CFS for 7 years (it replaced another MBS problem before that) and while it certainly started with a virus, its been an issue of the brain just too wired to produce symptoms/sensations that really have no explanation. I'm much better. It takes time and patience. The thing that helped me was just recognizing the role anxiety/fear/anticipation of the symptoms and to not be too attached to "outcomes". Processing the emotional stuff really helps. I feel D3, quecertin and B complex also helped, as has meditation, but mostly being able to recognize how the condition fluctuates (shows I AM capable and my body too of being OK) and staying patient, and a sort of balancing act between being confident to push myself but also pacing as needed (this is so individual). Hope you are feeling better and stay strong!

[@louisebrandon5950]

Since having a hysterectomy which resulted in 2 more operations within 2 days. They drained a ltr of blood from my stomach and i almost died. I've been left with nerve damage on top of the pain i had left from numerous laser operations to help my severe endometriosis. My pain increases dramatically with stress and heartache. This broadcast is brilliant. I'll be watching more of these interesting interviews. Thanks gentlemen 😊😊😊

[@tmcoug1]

Bodymind is one unit in flow. We could remember that many people show physical evidence of illness or disease, conditions that would suggest without investigation that they would be suffering, yet, they do or did not. Invariably if we look hard and long enough, we will find the physical manifestations or markers of suffering. The question is, which came first: the physical or the emotional? My view is both potentials come up at once. If the emotions can be satisfied, the physical has no need of reacting. If not, the physical is riled as a way to bring attention to a problem that needs deciphering from the ground up, and with many views of potential healing. Before my mom died in a cancer riddled body, she'd been saying for a few years that she felt just like a piece of meat every time she saw a doctor. Now I understand what she meant. Culturally, we've created this belief that we're all just a bag of blood and tissue; just wet machines.

[@phoenix8888]

I was always told I'd be on pain medicine for the rest of my life.. but pain medicine makes depression happen etc and it's a downward spiral of frustration to be heard by someone. Thank you for this video!

[@ChesterCopperpot767]

I’m shocked how much this resonates with me. Five years ago my dad had his first major manic episode, was diagnosed as bipolar, and was admitted to a psych ward. So I moved across the country to give support to my family and siblings. At the same time I had started on a major career change and had moved to a city where all my friends had left to start families in the suburbs. Basically my life became my family and their issues, with minimal social/fun outlet that I had enjoyed for the previous 10 years. Roughly 4 months after moving back home I started developing tension headaches for the first time in my life. Since that time my body has felt like a clenched fist for the last five years, particularly when I wake up. Tight popping jaw, grinding teeth, neck tightness, tight throat, etc. I started to notice the only time I would feel relief is when I got Covid. Almost as if when my body had to fight an actual real illness, it was too distracted to maintain the chronic pain triggered by my past trauma. This has causes me to look into whether my pain is entirely based on that trauma and how I can finally release it. The frustrating part is that being in this heightened stress state makes me hyper sensitive to what would normally be marginally stressful things like a work deadline, etc. Which just creates this sort of endless feedback loop. Ibuprofen oddly helps but I don’t like taking medication so I only take it periodically.

[@hotforhaha1]

Have you considered microdosing mushrooms?

[@l3ia]

I am so thankful to you for providing this information, this podcast and others have been life changing for me 🙏🏼

[@SylviaSigurdson]

I loved how you said, 'Pain is not the problem, it's the solution.' I've had chronic pain for 30 years from lupus, a 'structural' issue. But I wonder if my emotional pain from childhood is actually the driving force behind 'the immense power of the brain' and lupus was created as a safe way for my body to meet its emotional and physical needs. Perhaps all of the fears I'm carrying are fuelling the brain to trigger not only the pain response but the disease itself.

[@peacenholiness6855]

Good point, keep paying attention ☯️🧘‍♂️🙏

[@DD-xf1yd]

Hi, Sylvia. You may want to research a natural supplement, called "Moducare". It has helped many people with Auto-Immune Disorders (including Lupus), to go into remission.

[@jkco4300]

And moringa supplements for inflammation. What are your symptoms with lupus? Do you have joint pain?

[@deecee901]

Ha its the lupus. .like to see these guys deal with chronic pain...... other words theyre like .pain is good. Yeah ok. Till one offs themselves.

[@user-ne3dv7rl3p]

Try Dr Terry Walsh protocol. I am using it for 2 autoimmune diseases and it has helped tremendously

[@oncallempath]

One of the best doctors I’ve seen in my life. Changed my life forever. 🙏🏻

[@zeenalady9420]

I love this episode. To have scientific research behind this will solidify how much emotions we have repressed for generations and centuries.

[@puseletsoish]

This podcast is so amazing. Dr Rangan, you are doing amazing job in these interviews.

[@roseflaig9244]

When we are care givers for family we never truly understand how much we hold within until they are no longer with us. The blessings of our earthly obligations can feel heavy at times. What feels "right" doesn't always equal "easy"

[@olivesoondar1165]

Hopefully Revelations 21 verse 1 to 4 tells us Jesus will fix the earth when he returns soon & we wont suffer again , no more death & our dead loved ones will be raised to life again

[@Misslotusification]

17:29: Irritable Bowel Syndrome 17:55: Chronic neck and back pain 22:52: Scan diagnostic: Why not examine if there is a nerve trapped or not? 80% might not thus produces no pain, but what is it does? 1:05:53: Posture and computer activity 1:21:05: Seizure

[@EarCandyAsmr]

thank you

[@aaliyahrose2755]

Thank you! Soooo helpful 😊

[@sallyfong9843]

Thank you!!

[@kandycid100]

Thank you

[@Misslotusification]

My pleasure guys.

[@terelnewton8996]

A lot of scientific inaccuracies, but good to see that someone is at least trying to connect the mental component of chronic pain. - Emotional Stress Activates the amygdala and hypothalamus, involving emotional processing and stress hormone release. - Stress from a Fracture Triggers the somatosensory cortex for pain perception; hypothalamus may respond to general stress.

[@patriciawilson4744]

I got this message of empathy from a gentle, quiet neurosurgeon that mirrors what these doctors are saying. My doctor was the first person that asked me what was causing so much stress in my life.

[@aslanarias9509]

Howard Schubiner is a genius! This was an incredible interview!

[@nataliekhoaz]

I learnt a lot about pain when I was young and I burnt my arm on the grill. I decided to repeat over and over that it didn't hurt and really believe it and I was surprised to find that the pain completely went very quickly after and it was a really bad burn that took over a month to heal. I realised that there was a lot to pain, that it was more than a physical thing. The times I have had significant pain it has been when I have had a significant emotional component and this has definitely contributed to it feeling worse. I have found yoga to be significantly helpful with all of this, particularly meditation.

[@user-bs2yl5ew1f]

This is the best pod cast that I have ever listened to. Thank you a million times.

[@maiket3792]

As a Rapid Transformational Therapy practitioner, using hypnotherapy, I can absolutely vouch that chronic pain can be removed when clients understand how their mind works. I have facilitated the healing of chronic physical symptoms, experienced for over 12 years, with clients having tried everything else, one young man being so depressed he was suicidal, in one 3 hour session. I can only agree, that the majority of presenting issues, whether physical or psychological, are caused by emotionally traumatic events. With RTT we're able to quickly get to the root cause via the client's subconscious mind and help them to change the story they've been telling themselves. They're able to let go and the pain disappears. Understanding and reframing, then coding in a new paradigm are absolutely the key. Great interview. Thank you so much. There are some excellent studies done by the Heart Maths Institute, which supports all you've talked about..

[@debbiesmith2207]

Wow. This interview has given me more insight into my past history with chronic pain than anything I have ever seen or heard in 40 years. Thank you, thank you, thank you! Slowly, I came to some of these realizations on my own. The first step forward was refusing to label myself as disabled, stopped seeing doctors and throwing out all my meds. They were not helping, they actually made things worse. Of course this meant losing my job and having to become self-employed. Unfortunately, our "health care" system is more focused on problems and labels than finding solutions. Everything you have said rings true, I wish I had heard this years ago. There is value in feeling understood. 😊

[@janetmckegg7876]

And the paperwork to save their butt

[@paddymackenzie2153]

What a beautiful blend of science, intelligence, empathy…… and humanity! Wonderful message… bravo, from a PD patient!

[@sharonlujan9497]

this is key to what is wrong w our society in general, people are afraid to be up front about emmotions and real feelings.

[@FaithFashionFinances]

It’s so powerful to shift the perspective from just treating a symptom to being more aware of your life circumstances. Thank you so much for sharing this

[@Rick_Johnson82]

I’ve had back pain since 16 years old. I’m 40 now. Still the same thing. It started with knee pain in a long school camping hike. I’ve never been the same.