BIOS Patcher: unleashing the potential of an old mainboard.

[@MerolaC]

Just in case, I've saved the page on the Waybackmachine. It was probably there already, but, just in case, a new backup doesn't hurt.

[@MerolaC]

Update: The WaybackMachine backup is done and all relevant links (mostly the zips/rars) are backed up!

[@Snohup]

@@MerolaC And today that page is gone. Thank you for making a new backup! Still, there are some zips that I wasn't able to download, such as the amiflash.

[@creopard]

Just imagine we would have had this tool back in the 90s! What a money and resources saver by unleashing the full potential of a PC (back in the days) instead of consistently buying a new one.

[@necro_ware]

Well, we kind of had this tool back then. As far as I know the first version appeared end of 90's early 2000's. The version, which I showed in the video is from 2003. Most people just didn't know, that it existed, but in the post soviet hardware scene there were quite a lot of useful tools like this.

[@creopard]

The more "common" tool was TweakBIOS (at least in my filter bubble). However, it was more focused on preliminary performance tuning rather than adding persistent features (like supporting larger hard drive sizes) right from the beginning of the boot process.

[@OdinRa-ix1be]

@@necro_ware The site is located in the country of Belarus, and a programmer with the nickname of the Premier League from Belarus.

[@RetroPeKar]

Тот момент, когда знакомишься с патчером старых биосов уже после Кофетайма )) Отличный доступный разбор получился, теперь попробую кое-что.. )

[@DxDeksor]

This is an incredible tool that I already knew, but thanks for sharing :D I added it to win3x when I was still a moderator there, despite the bad history that happened later, this is at least another backup of this tool :) I wish they shared the source code of this awesome tool, because I think it could be expanded to older bioses :) (imagine adding LBA 128 to an old 486 ? 😍) and maybe we could even add new features that didn't matter in the early 2000's but could now (USB boot ?)

[@necro_ware]

Yeah, I also was searching for the source code, but I couldn't find anything useful. Not even an active contact.

[@szenti707]

One can also reverse engineer the binary and reimplement it open sourced.

[@necro_ware]

@@szenti707 Sure, but it takes quite some time and know how.

[@fernandocoutinho3446]

So good to see you're back. I really enjoy your work!

[@_Tualatin_]

Heh, today i just write comment at you last video of i440b, about make bios patcher video and you make it after few hours. That's hilarious! Thanks 🤙

[@kentuky1233]

I've repaired hundreds of motherboards with faulty BIOS in the early 2000s. We didn't have a programmer, so we used to reprogram them "hot" with a motherboard we had to that purpose using Uniflash. It was incredibly easy. And since it was before these tricks were available online, our clients thought we were NASA engineers. The same with replacing bad caps. Good times.

[@AdamSommer70]

Super interesting! Thanks for going into detail on the BIOS Patcher!

[@CraigAB69]

Thanks for doing things like this. Great content mate, I learn something new every time.

[@superconductives88]

This is great to know, thanks! I wish more bios types than Award could be supported but maybe one day...

[@the2323guy]

there's also a bootblock bios which is a failsafe alternative to the standard award bios in case a bios rom checksum error comes up

[@Mini-z1994]

I need too do this for my ASUS P/I-P55T2P4 too support the k6-2+ fully & the 60 gb ide hdd id like too use so might as well tackle that soon.

[@maxstephane4200]

Thank you so much for putting so much work in this and sharing this with us - when I saw it yesterday I got so incredibly excited that I had to test it with my older mainboard. My K6-3+ is not being recognized from my mainboard (it posts but only shows 66 MHz without a CPU identification). I then manually set the muliplicator via software in order to get some performance out of it. After seeing your video I flashed my Bios ROM file with the BIOS Patcher and via CBROM I could confirm that two new modules have been added to my Bios ROM. I could also see in the report that new CPUs have been added. However, after patching the BIOS with the new firmware (via uniflash) no changes happened (not even the rom.by line appeared during POST). I am trying to figure out what else I could try. I have two ideas, first one is to try an external flasher and the second idea is to add the CPU microcode directly into the main system module. I would appriciate any thoughts or comments :) Thanks brother! :)

[@necro_ware]

Did you apparently disconnect your keyboard? If you did, the patched rom goes into recovery mode and starts the original bios. You can disable this feature if you don't like it by supplying /s parameter to the bios patcher.

[@rodneyhchef1]

Wish I knew about this when I still had my i430vx retro build running a k6/2 400 CPU 😅

[@yosemite-e2v]

I had a Biostar VX board back in early 2001, and I used an Evergreen 200 MHz upgrade CPU (it was actually a Winchip) to replace the Cyrix CPU it originally had. I bought the Evergreen CPU on Ebay, and the machine wouldn't POST when I installed it. I contacted Evergreen, and even though I bought it used, they sent me a BIOS as an email attachment and the machine then worked fine! The bonus was that months later I used a K6-2 450 @ 400 MHz, and it worked fine with that same BIOS. Unfortunately the linear VRM was overloaded by the combination of that CPU and a hot summer night, and the board died.

[@darthtripedacus1]

K6-2 for life. My first PC was an old IBM aptiva and I upgraded the bits out of that rig. 550MHz, 512 MB Ram, 120GB HDD, ISA Sound Blaster 16, Nvidia GX550 PCI card. I miss my baby.

[@ChadDoebelin]

This is great! Thank you for showing it off!

[@loopymind]

That fallback is a really nice feature!

[@herauthon]

Before i watch the video . . i just click like.. because the inner waters already ripple of smiles

[@necro_ware]

Hope, that after watching you didn't regret it ;)

[@herauthon]

@@necro_ware never .. i got a lot of bios-chips to read-out i want to post them on the Archive

[@RetroTinkerer]

Thanks a lot! Now I have to check what can I unlock with this tool, maybe I could add Pentium-M support to one of my ASRock 478 boards!

[@primus711]

Still need a socket adapter to do that

[@atheatos]

I had tried this tool before, mainly for 137Gb HDD support. I had mixed results on the Socket 7 I had there. It detected bigger drives but then crashed. I was not aware of the fall back option with "-".

[@necro_ware]

There are reports about stability issues, if you use the beta or alpha version of the BIOS patcher. With 4.23 I had no issues so far. As a side note, I used it with Slot 1, S370 and SS7 mainboards.

[@atheatos]

Yeah I have to try again, with other versions and M/Bs for sure.

[@borodaevkirill7371]

since bios will be patched you'll about to patch windows (95/98) because these versions will corrupt data on disks sized 128Gb+. DOS got no patches. use mhdd or victoria to limit hdd capacity to 128Gb. that's the easiest way to use modern fast drives on old systems.

[@atheatos]

Interesting, I am using seatools to limit the size on the disk level.

[@angieandretti]

That's very cool! About a year ago I tried the infamous 1.1GHz Coppermine P3 in my Asus P2B-DS 440BX board and it wouldn't POST. I returned the CPU and the seller concluded that it must not be listed in my board's BIOS cuz he was able to boot it on his test board after receiving it back. Perhaps this would be a way that I could run that CPU instead of the current 1.0GHz P3.

[@logipilot]

That could be! But I ashure you: P2B(-B in my case) can even run tualatin with the last official bios from 2003. P2B-DS is the coolest, I have one here, but only with 2x333MHz PIIs ;)

[@necro_ware]

Yes, could be, but with the P2B you have to be careful. The early revisions of that board (before 1.10) didn't provide voltages below 2.x something volts, where Coppermine needs 1.65-1.7V. So even if you patch the BIOS, your board could probably POST and even work some time, but the CPU wouldn't stand the voltage for too long. If you want to use P2B watch out to get the later revisions, at least 1.10, better 1.12.

[@angieandretti]

@@necro_ware Yes I'm aware. Mine is P2B-DS v.1.05 (the version numbering is a bit different for the -DS IIRC) because IT CAN do the lower voltages. Currently it's driving a pair of rare SL4KL 1GHz Coppermine Slot 1 CPU's at their native 1.7v. When I first started the project, I only had a P2B-D 1.03, which WAS able to run a pair of 1GHz Socket 370 Coppermine's via slocket adapters but I had to override their voltages to 1.8v cuz that was the lowest that earlier board could provide without hardware modification. I believe it was 1.06 where they updated the voltage regulator on the normal P2B-D and 1.05 for the P2B-DS.

[@angieandretti]

@@logipilot Yeah I know! That was actually a thing I discussed with the seller too. It'll run a 1.4GHz Tualatine with the right slocket adapter, but not this 1.1GHz chip. We concluded (our best guess at least) was that it had to do with the story of how Intel released the 1.1GHz Coppermine P3 and then pulled it from the market because it was unstable, only to re-release an updated version of it later on. We guessed that perhaps the two versions had different microcode ID's because I tried two 1.1GHz chips and #1 POSTed but was unstable and #2 wouldn't POST at all, but reportedly worked fine for him - which could be explained in theory by my BIOS lacking its particular ID in the CPU table. Or this could all be crap and the guy was just being a liar cuz he was tired of sending me chips, lol!!

[@AladimBR]

@@necro_wareI recently changed the voltage control chip on P2B 1.02 and could afterwars run a coppermine 1.0 (133x7.5). There is a thread about this at Vogons, Bits and Bolts did the same on his 6 P2B board series. Some soldering skill required, I did it myself after some learning effort.

[@DaveVelociraptor]

What a great little tool. I'd be interested in you exploring it deeper - what options does it enable, are these typically useful etc?

[@necro_ware]

The documentation is very clear on it. There are not many switches you can use and you can see all of them by entering the /h argument. The description is usually very clear.

[@DaveVelociraptor]

@@necro_ware Well that's good to hear, all the same if you do use it again on a video, either on a standalone or in as part of another I'll be fascinated to see it.

[@necro_ware]

Yes, from time to time you will definitely see it in the future in my videos again.

[@helldog3105]

This is a fascinating tool. I have wanted to get a chip writer like what you show in the video. Sadly I have 0 experience or knowledge in regards to these things. I see tons of suggestions online but it seems that opinions vary. Can I ask which one you use, and just confirm the OS that you use it on? I really appreciate the videos. They are excellent. I am trying to learn so that I can maintain and fix a lot of the old computers that have ended up with me over the years. I didn't want to recycle the old ones in hopes they could be fixed.

[@necro_ware]

Hi, the programmer is TL866II+, this is actually the best by a huge margin, what you can get for your money. I don't think someone, who used it once would tell you something else. My operation system is Linux, but the TL866+ works with Windows perfectly fine too.

[@badgmodmovies3775]

I wonder if this can allow a newer motherboard, like a pentium 2 or 3 to be declocked and settings adjusted to make it close to a XT class system? this is been something I have wanted to try for a long long time back when pentium 2 and 3 systems were nothing more than ewaste. Now that they are collectable it may not be as smart of a idea as it once was, but still a neat thing to possibly run software that is cpu cycle dependent

[@necro_ware]

You can downclock the FSB, deactivate the cache and use setmul tool to lower the multiplier. It is possible to get down to about 386DX-33, but XT is unreachable.

[@rodhester2166]

that was awesome.. thanks for all the great information.

[@LambertZero]

The article you mention about adding plop bootloader to an old laptop really got me going. I saw it a couple of months ago, and recently I got another idea. You know those ISA cards with one EPROM chip, where you can put something like XTIDE bios, right? Well, turns out, in its 5V mode PCMCIA slot works exactly like ISA slots, just in a more compact package. So my idea now is to make an ISA ROM card, but in PCMCIA format, and then my retro Toshiba Sattelite 315CDT will boot from its only USB1.1 port. How cool would that be?

[@necro_ware]

PCMCIA and ISA are similar, but imho not the same. It is more like IDE, you could try CF to PCMCIA adapter and see, if your device would see the drive.

[@LambertZero]

@@necro_ware they are the same, for the purposes of this discussion. I spent the last week reading the PCMCIA PC Card standard. The only difference I (maybe) found so far, is the fact that pcmcia runs in 16bit mode, like a long ISA. But it starts in 8bit, so maybe it'll work, or maybe, I'll have to use a 16bit eeprom. In any case, so far I feel pretty good about the chances of success of that idea. And by the way. IDE does grow directly from ISA, so they are compatible. And of course, CF can be connected to PCMCIA with a passive adapter, in fact, I think CF is a later version or addition of some sort to PCMCIA standard. But it's not what I want. I want an option ROM, so I can put XTIDE bios or plop bootloader in there.

[@tony359]

thank you a lot for sharing this with us!

[@dercaradas]

Great Video! Do you have any information how to modify older award 3.2 bios versions?

[@necro_ware]

Unfortunately no. I'm hoping to obtain the source code of the BIOS patcher, then we could use it to fix the older versions too. A good start would be to use the tool CBROM and LHA to analyze that old BIOS structure.

[@ats-3693]

Lol so awesome, now in the 2020's we can finally get our 1990's pentiums working properly 🤣 better late than never guys! 😂😂

[@necro_ware]

Those tools are actually more than 20 years old :) so, nothing new

[@ats-3693]

@@necro_ware Haha oh damn 🤦 well the case is still the same really, in theory I can finally dig an old pentium board out of my boxes of old computer bits and make it run like it should have 25 years ago, whether I ever get around to it remains to be seen :)

[@Pidalin]

@@necro_ware But who THE HELL had internet 20 years ago? I didn't even have drivers for my sound card back in the day, it was like Christmas when I found it on some cd and I finally had sound. 😀 These things are pretty much possible only today when you have instant acces to all those tools and bioses.

[@JohnSmith-iu8cj]

@@Pidalini had internet 29 years ago. Shit I am old.

[@Pidalin]

@@JohnSmith-iu8cj Yeah, you are old 😀 but seriously, most of people around me have permanent internet at home since like 2006 or even later. I don't know if all those people like "I already had internet in 90s and it was standard in my country" are just liars or the have a bad memory. Before like 2005, everyone was going to internet caffés, to libraries or to schools for internet, only few people had internet at home.

[@lloydieization]

Is rom-by offline? I could browse to it literally earlier this week and now I can't, have tried it from both my home and work for the last couple of days ... is the UK being blocked 🤔

[@clintthompson4100]

Love the video. Could you please let me where do you buy those IC chips for the Bios Rom chips and where or what site did you buy the Eprom Flasher at. I would like to get one for a Socket 7 Socket Ampatron/PC Chips board I have for a Cyrix M II CPU I have and for the MMX voltage adapter what voltage upgrade chips should be used on the voltage adapter for the Cyrix M II 300 so it does not over heat since I don't want to use a Intel CPU. Thanks for reading. Have a good one.

[@BlueSkyYGO]

The flasher is at eBay around $60 USD, possibly there you find the chips too

[@PicaDelphon]

How are you with Other types like PAL and GAL chip..??..

[@cyrilmetodej3614]

if you find a way to make working energy star bios instead HP Bios on HP laptops it would be great

[@AncapDude]

THIS IS INCREDIBLE

[@SeanWithTheBeard]

I've got an old HP 8260 (Asus KL97-XV) that won't POST any Celeron in a slotket, but it's a Phoenix BIOS, trying to figure out how to add CPU support for it, any suggestions?

[@necro_ware]

Phoenix = Award, so you could try this tool

[@SeanWithTheBeard]

@@necro_ware I'm getting the error "Found 2Mbit Award BIOS (4.5x)! Can't find "*BBSS*" error - cant find start.modul!error!"

[@SeanWithTheBeard]

@@necro_ware okay so now I have the dump of the BIOS from Phoenix Bios Editor, which crashes on load but I can pull everything from the TEMP folder and it creates a ROM.SCR script, can use PREPARE and CATENATE to put it back together, but my challenge is replacing the microcode in UPDATE0.ROM, at least I think that's the goal, I've tried using UPDATE0 from other BIOS dumps as well as the P2 CPU COD file from the Russian site but no POST after flashing

[@greypatch8855]

Excellent video man!

[@Veso266]

Wow, a great tool Can it add dual floppy drive support for newer bioses that only have support for 1 internal floppy drive?

[@alexloktionoff6833]

Thank you for the instruction video how to download bp!

[@TechCellfish]

BP doesn't run in Win11 amd64, CBROM doesn't run in DOS6.22 x86. Time to dig out my Win98 machine. Will try to further improve my FIC PT-2006 beta BIOS.

[@necro_ware]

I use dosbox for such things.

[@logipilot]

Is it too risky to flash from the DOS prompt? I don´t have an EPROM programmer... I want to do this to my Abit VA6 - it lacks cl2 support...

[@necro_ware]

Shouldn't be a problem, I just prefer to use the programmer, since I have it anyway.

[@yosemite-e2v]

I've used it on a couple of different Socket 7 motherboards, and I used the /s option. One of those times something went wrong, and the machine wouldn't POST. Since I did not have a programmer, I had to do a hot swap flash to get that motherboard working again. I tried patching the BIOS again and as far as I know I did nothing differently the second time, but it worked fine that time.

[@necro_ware]

@@yosemite-e2v Sometimes such things happen. That's why I'm glad to have a programmer. It is one of the most used tools in my workshop.

[@yosemite-e2v]

@@necro_ware I really should buy one. I'm confident in my abilities when it comes to hot swap flashes, but they are still a risky thing to do and really ought to be avoided if possible.

[@eaglemaster7]

@@yosemite-e2v hot swap? do you mean change bios chip while PC is on? (assuming you will use working bios and then flashing the failed one again) wow...

[@Unirule]

Will this work with a Socket 7 Compaq Presario laptop?

[@AnD_RoM]

Здравствуйте. Я гляжу, вы с дискеты не прошиваете BIOS, а пользуетесь програматором. Можно узнать вашу модель или посоветуйте, что лучше приобрести по доступной цене, чтобы прошивать такие старые микросхемы. А то я на одной материнке бету версию залил и она теперь встант на экране показа модели проца и обьема памяти и дальше не грузится. Я конечно слышал, что можно прошить на других метеринках, вставив микросхему не выключая пк, но чтото боязно так делать

[@necro_ware]

Добрый! Я советую TL866II+, самый классный девайс, а соотношение цены, качества и возможностей вообще супер. На нём не только можно писать ПЗУ, но и микроконтроллеры, палки и тому прочее.

[@patrickdeunhouwer5926]

Would this give support more options to my winchip2 on a socket7?

[@alexloktionoff6833]

Interesting how 256k bios flash is being red in 440bx m/b for example? Is there a standard interface to switch banks in upper memory? Might you know a link for the docs?

[@Marsandrey]

Hi. Is it possible to flash the BIOS with DOS software tools? Without flash writer tool? Thanks

[@johnhajdu4276]

Hello! I have problem with the CBROM software. Any time I execute it with a Award bios file, it shows the first line "CBROM195.exe V1.95 [12/14/07] Phoenix Technologies 2001-2007" and stucks with one CPU core at 100%. Why is that, why the program does not report error? Did you have same experiences? I tried differen CBROM versions and also different OS, but always the same problem.

[@rallyscoot]

I have an older pentium 1 motherboard with socket 5. Iam guessing it wont support UDMA or bigger hdd till 3.2GB.. Now i see you can give the board UDMA +137GB support. But i dont need the support till 137GB HDD.. Is it still possible to put a manual value in so i got support till 32GB HDDs.. Or is the baundry always UDMA + 137GB and not possible to change that.

[@RetroBytes265]

will this work on motherboards without a removable bios chip

[@xero110]

I love doing stuff like this! I have a new'ish laptop (i7-10870H/RTX2070) and have seen screenshots of modified BIOSs for my laptop that allow overclocking and other performance settings. I really wish I could find a trustworthy source that provides these tools. Better ondervolting and custom settings would be a great way of getting more performance for my system that I would love to have access to. As I cannot find any such resources, I'm stuck with my current setup.

[@Cmdrbzrd]

You shouldn't, you could damage your laptop by overclocking it, and I'm pretty sure both the CPU and GPU already get hot.

[@woldemunster9244]

Intel Extreme Tuning Utility is all you should need. Undervolting is a must on laptop, GG.

[@woldemunster9244]

@@Cmdrbzrd He wants to undervolt aka get lower temperature with less voltage. :D

[@valenrn8657]

A useful feature is the shared memory allocation setting for the IGP.

[@ayan.debnath]

In my AMD K6-II 500 Socket 7 setup, 256 MB x3 RAMs are showing as 128 MB x3 RAMs. The eBay seller already said - "It displays 256MB on motherboards above version 815, and 128MB on motherboards below version 815. It requires updating the motherboard BIOS to display 256MB" Is there anything to do?

[@yosemite-e2v]

For anyone reading this that knows how to modify AMI BIOS: I have a PCChips M930LMR with a 533 FSB P4. When you use a 400 MHz FSB P4 in that board the BIOS will allow you to set the memory at 166 FSB ( FSB 100/166 memory), but when you use a 533 FSB P4 it only allows you to set the memory to 133 (133/133). I'd like to enable the option of 166 with the 133 FSB, but when I used AMIBCP I couldn't change it. Any help would be appreciated.

[@waytostoned]

Just set the refresh rates faster. Reason it isn't allowed is the divider would be super wonky. Not really going to notice much a difference unless you are using intergrated video.

[@yosemite-e2v]

@@waytostoned Sorry if I wasn't clear - this is a setting for the system memory. When I had the 2.8 400 FSB P4 installed I could run the system memory at 333, but with the 2.8 533 FSB P4 you are only given the option of running the memory at 266 MHz; this really narrowed the performance gap between the CPUS, and I want to have the option of running the system memory at 333 FSB with the 2.8/533 CPU.

[@waytostoned]

@@yosemite-e2v I totally understand. You have something called a ram divider. 400 / 166 = 2.4 or so. Problem is with 533, 533/166 is 3.21 which is a wonky divider. But 533/133 is 4. Can you see the issue? The wait states would make any effective speed useless, and in fact slower then 133.

[@yosemite-e2v]

@@waytostoned Ah, that's too bad. When I had the 400 FSB CPU installed there was a significant increase in benchmark scores when I increased the RAM speed to 333, and the Sandra memory bandwidth score actually dropped when I installed the 533 P4. I also have a Socket 479 motherboard (i855GM chipset) that has a Pentium M 780 with a 533 FSB and it runs the RAM at 166 MHz (CPUz says it's actually running at 177 3:4 FSB:DRAM).

[@yosemite-e2v]

@@waytostoned I just remembered that ECS (the later version of PCChips) had the P4S5A which was almost identical to theM930LMR, and it does have the 133/166 FSB/memory setting. I even tried flashing that BIOS to the earlier board, but the hardware wasn't quite identical - it would lose the CPU setting on every reboot when I tried it. But I was able to boot into Windows and SiSoft Sandra confirmed the increased memory bandwidth.

[@2dfx]

I wonder if this would work some magic on a Pentium Pro board I have. It's an ECS P6FX1-A with Award 4.50 BIOS and it's impossible to install Win2k Pro on it as it bluescreens. WinNT 4 works fine. Something about this board and Win2K that doesn't play nice with PnP.

[@necro_ware]

I don't think, that this is something, where the BIOS patcher would help. Early PnP was a pain in the back, hardware wasn't quite following the standard, Windows was full of hacks and workarounds to get it running and still we had a lot of problems trying to get it running. If I remember right, you could disable PnP during the installation of Windows to get through the hardware detection properly and re-enable it later, when the drivers are available.

[@chriswatson2407]

Wonderful!

[@Aeduo]

I guess another use for learning Russian, if I ever get anywhere past like A1 level. It is often this weird niche stuff that ends up being Russian and never translated or disseminated in to English. :p

[@necro_ware]

Yes, current situation unfortunately pushes people into a point of view, that Putin and Russian language is the same thing, but it isn't. It's like insulting a rape victim, because she was raped. Everything, what that guy is touching becomes cursed and Russian language is not an exclusion. I hope the raper will pay for what he did.

[@Aeduo]

@@necro_ware yeah I'm familiar. I've been learning for over a year but yeah since then I've gotten a bit of crap for it. Not a ton but a bit.

[@nickwallette6201]

There is a tragic lack of rational thought these days. Like in the early days of the pandemic when people here would blame (local!) Asians for the virus. As if they had _anything_ to do with it. 😖 It’s just embarrassing.

[@sdjhgfkshfswdfhskljh3360]

​@@necro_ware I doubt that he touched language enough to make it noticeably worse. The problem is not with Putin in this case, but in people with damaged logic.

[@Pidalin]

I totaly hate it that all such websites are written in stupid cyrillic and very often you have no other option than copy pasting it to translator or just guessing. And many US websites are not availabale in europe anymore because of stupid GDPR and cookie shit or those sites just died and says error 404 when I try to download something, it's so sad, but I am slowly learning to backup everything I dowload and it's related to retro computers, because it's possible that I will not find in anymore on internet later. I have to learn that stupid cyrillic, but as a Czech, I just don't want to know cyrillic, it's nice when you can say to some yelling Russian "I can't read this shit" and you mean it seriously. 😀 I was actually trying to learn how to read it for several times, but I always forget it, I was actually more succesful even with Korean Hangul than with cyrillic, it's just so confusing when you have the same letters like in latin, but it means something totaly different. Just conquer them and force them to switch to latin alphabet.

[@Hessi]

Auf den Punkt gebracht! Kurz und knackig! Chapeau! Und was machen unsere "Digital Natives" derweil? Stumpf konsumieren und ihre Blackboxes benutzen.

[@pavelfara9333]

Sie haben Recht. Es ist eine Lüge, dass den „Digital Natives“ irgendwie die digitale Bildung vermittelt wird automatisch. Sie wissen, wie man Facebook-Spiele spielt und wie man einen ZOOM-Anruf tätigt, aber tatsächlich haben sie Probleme, mit einer einzelnen Excel-Tabelle zu arbeiten oder nur ein bisschen zu verstehen, wie der Computer mit dem Code arbeitet.

[@warrax111]

what if motherboard contain badly flashed BIOS (someone flashed from other revision motherboard) and motherboard doesn't start. Can this patcher overwrite it with different and correct BIOS, so motherboard start to work?

[@necro_ware]

I don't understand the question. The BIOS patcher makes fixes in the BIOS, it doesn't flash anything. If you have a badly flashed or wrong BIOS image, you have to download the right one and reflash it again. That has nothing to do with this tool. You can find the right BIOS images f.e. on ultimateretro.net

[@warrax111]

@@necro_ware You've used something in video, where you put BIOS . Can it be used , to flash good bios, if bad BIOS was flashed? Where can I find such tool, and how it is named? Yea, i probably thought, patcher means that white thing, into which you've socketed BIOS after releasing it from motherboard.

[@necro_ware]

@@warrax111 That's a chip programmer. It always erases the chip completely and writes new data into it. It doesn't care what type of data it is, if it is BIOS, or something else. The model of the device is tl866II+.

[@warrax111]

@@necro_ware thank you. damn it costs 150$ in our country, it's overexpensive, just to flash BIOS and save motherboard. Anyway, thank you for your time.

[@necro_ware]

@@warrax111 You should be able to find it cheaper. Furthermore this tool is not only for writing ROMs, it can a lot more and if you are into repair it is very helpful in many aspects. If you just want to repair one board, you could try BIOS hot swapping trick. Just google for it.

[@Byte5]

Another great video

[@primus711]

Just fyi you dont need this tool to mod a bios it just makes it simple for those that don't understand

[@necro_ware]

This is basically, what I said in the end. Of course you don't need it, but this tool just makes it a child's play.

[@primus711]

@@necro_ware yeah i was a mod on bios-mods for years doing this

[@hyoenmadan]

Actually, this makes the patching safer and convenient, because it doesn't touch the original modules, while conventional patching does. Unless you want to write your own loader and memory patcher for your mods...

[@PsRohrbaugh]

This is amazing

[@GigAHerZ64]

Why did you not use Bios Patcher 4.51 instead of 4.23?

[@necro_ware]

I do use sometimes 4.51 and even the 6.x, but those versions are beta and alpha and they have features, which you'd need only for newer mainboards. For everything before PIII I didn't discover clear benefit so far from using the newer versions, than 4.23

[@hyoenmadan]

@@necro_ware BP 4.51 supposedly adds beta support on all features found in 4.23, but for AMIBIOSes ver6 and 7. And I say supposedly, because it almost never works (partial success in only a handful pcchips boards). Sometimes it simply doesn't load, or when it does, it hangs during initialization. Also, the recommended version of AMIMM in the webpage for it, has a tendency to corrupt v6 BIOSes, which are almost all the ones found in Pentium/PII and PIII AMIBIOS boards. I've had better success with 3rdparty MyBCP commandline tool, renamed as AMIMM for v6 boards.

[@necro_ware]

@@hyoenmadan Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@hafo821]

nice to know! 😋

[@K10driver]

In-sane. Because of the lack of time i need to ship my EPROM chips to an adress at the upper half of Germany

[@necro_ware]

Yeah, I heard, that time is a resource, which some people supposedly have, but I think it's a lie ;)

[@shuwenchiang9544]

my asus p28-ds IDE 30GB 40GB 80GB 120GB NO!!!

[@BlueSkyYGO]

Nice

[@tspawn35]

I swear the Russians have had to make do with old tech for long stretches of time.

[@TheOneGoofAli]

Can kinda confirm that we Russians really sometimes make do with what already works, even if it's old - and if we can help prolong/extend usability, we'll certainly try to. Hell, prior to getting a new SATA DVD drive, I used an IDE one in my Pentium III machine to write/read the discs via ImgBurn on either Windows 98 or NT4... that, and emulation just doesn't really feel the same when you use real hardware to set up Windows on. There's just something so comforting in the clickiness of old hard and floppy drives... and, in these times, I'll take what I can get to try and make it a bit easier to get through these dark times. Would have loved to leave through an another country, but I have way too many parts to just leave behind...

[@sotikmaster]

hi

[@pctrashtalk2069]

Cool. I was thinking some smart person could use machine learning to compare similar BIOS versions and come up with a hopefully better one.

[@tiemanowo]

Well.. Russia. They have so many brilliant people (I assume that developers are from russia?) yet their government suck so badly.

[@ivan_tty]

the devs could also be from the Belarus, considering that the website's ccTLD is .by

[@necro_ware]

This is unfortunately true. This is twice as sad because most of the brilliant and intelligent people are not supporting what's happening at all. Their lives get currently destroyed by the mob and they can't do anything about it. Heartbreaking.

[@necro_ware]

That's true, I also guess, that the developer(s) is(are) from Belarus.

[@lordwiadro83]

They are from Belarus, totally different breed.

[@necro_ware]

I don't like to divide people into breeds, that simply wrong. There are everywhere good and bad people and in the last 4 months I gave shelter for Ukrainians and Russians. All of them were suffering from the same evil which took over the whole Russia, destroyed the country, injected a lot of hate, by making the others responsible for their crimes and is currently destroying another country..... I hope, that the responsible people will pay for what they did, but I refuse to spread hate over everybody. I got yesterday a message from a friend in Russia, who can't stand the situation and has suicidal thoughts, I will not betray him and others like him.

[@ayan.debnath]

Long time no video....

[@necro_ware]

1 Week ;)

[@tenminutetokyo2643]

Full boycott.

[@necro_ware]

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