Why Are Indians Leaving PhD Midway? What's Wrong with the PhD System? 🎓

[@amazonshopping5547]

Incompetence of professors and ego clash which results in lack of collaboration is the main problem.

[@biotecnika]

We need to make PI more accountable

[@Padam561]

true, indian phd system is all about quantity of papers.

[@sameerr0143]

@@biotecnika not possible, the post are permanent and look into cases where students took a stand against profs unfair practice and landed in hot waters!!!!

[@parimalpandya9645]

कहते हैं कि यु आर राव और साम पित्रोदा ने भारतीय संस्थान को निकम्मा बताया था और अब तो आईआईटी वाले प्रति वर्ष चार लाख पगार की नौकरी ढूंढ रहे हैं जो ज्यादातर बेरोजगार हैं

[@sonujobchannel693]

Hello phd people... Those who are doing phd or have conpleted phd... Please share your experience in comments

[@tarungupta3590]

Someone finally addressed this issue. I earned a gold medal in Pharma and began my PhD in Delhi in 2017. Despite three years of hard work, balancing an industry job, and sacrificing my health fully, my guide forced me to choose between my job or failing. True to his word, I failed and left my PhD with a heavy heart, returning to the industry. My tasks included drinking tea from a flask, sitting in the canteen, and checking exam papers. A PhD in pharma doesn't pay well, with salaries around 4.5 LPA after 2-4 years. Industrial PhDs are essential, but many PhD scholars lose touch with reality. I'm a millennial, not Gen Z. Happy to answer your questions (if any) for this kind of content. Really heart touching good work.

[@surabhi6739]

So what we choose as student phd or job????

[@tarungupta3590]

@ Job

[@TheGreatSage_Heavensequal]

hey man, sad that happened to you. how are you doing in life now? how different do you think your life wouldve been if you chose your PHD?

[@suparnasarkar4282]

@@surabhi6739 If you have financial issues then go for job. If you have money then go for abroad by clearing exams like GRE, GMAT or recommendation from your professor.

[@suparnasarkar4282]

@@tarungupta3590 It really hurts! I have seen these things in many prestigious institutions like IIT/ NIT. Many students leave their course because of these nasty behaviours from supervisor/ guide. After leaving course they can't get proper job if they cross 30+ age! Many students are struggling with these problems! Due to these things the student are losing golden times of their life. I hope you are doing well. More power to you.👍

[@suparnasarkar4282]

In India PhD really sucks whatever the student is boy or girl! Maximum cases it takes 6-7 yrs to complete the course. Funding is another issue. After completion of degree there is no campus placement, job, besides family pressure for taking up responsibility(specially financial!), and pressure for getting married . Besides, the behaviour of maximum supervisor/ guides is so nasty!Due to these things many students leave their degree. Many students are losing their golden period (20-30yrs) of getting decent job and career. It really hurts! I have seen many students opt for distance degree for getting jobs. (If someone is truly passionate about subject then she/he should go abroad.)

[@biotecnika]

Agreed 💯

[@suparnasarkar4282]

@biotecnika sir, there was a time when many students opted for honours master's in fundamental subjects, PhD, for zeal or stipend whatever it is. In India, the work culture in labs are very bad, many supervisors are torturing their scholars mentally. I have seen these, many students leave their institution, subject! After getting degree if anyone wants job, then he/she have to oiling their supervisors! Those who are aware of these earlier age, these students opt for distance degree or professional courses, because of pressure of getting jobs in 20-30s. In our state many seats in general/honours degree remain vacant! No one want to honours master's nowadays due to the system. Govt should bring strict guidelines for academic degrees like PhD to complete degrees in 4 yrs and recruitment system should be fair and lucid. Otherwise, in future no one will opt for PhD in India. 🙂

[@MMonalisa_]

@@suparnasarkar4282 I strongly agree with your insights! I mean one shouldn't be under peer pressure just to persue some good research in the field they're really interested in! The pressure is really nasty and demotivating that we get bound to question ourselves why did we chose this field! And the sad part is this certain scenario kills that curiosity and enthusiasm once we had created for the subject. Phd should be more about new innovations, research, creativity and less about bizarre work ethics of lab, lab politics. Planning to go abroad for phd.

[@sonujobchannel693]

Hello phd people... Those who are doing phd or have conpleted phd... Please share your experience in comments

[@abhipsapathak5802]

Finally someone spoke about this issue💯!! Thanks a lot Sir😊

[@biotecnika]

To be honest Couldn't stop myself from talking about this

[@MujammilHussain]

Thanks sir

[@harshapatil3497]

Lot of PhD scholar are just watching it and they are not commenting below. I know the reason. I have gone through that pain.

[@suchismitakar2154]

Every point mentioned is on point. No exaggeration.

[@biotecnika]

Thank you so much for appreciating 🙏

[@bhupendrapradhan6896]

What I think is reaserch and science is not being appreciated in India now..only UPSC and other power posts

[@chanchalsinha-tv4ir]

Exactly

[@AvdMasdey20]

Overrated clerks are always admired

[@Anurag9344-q1i]

*PhD is a scam not only in India but also in foreign countries.* It’s better to work hard for a year to prepare for government exams rather than dedicating five years to something that is full of stress. A PhD doesn’t even guarantee a permanent asst prof post. First, you have to work on a contractual basis in universities to gain experience. Moreover, even if you receive a decent stipend, you can’t spend that money freely due to the constant fear: "What if I don’t get a permanent job immediately after my PhD?" This marks the beginning of a vicious cycle, where one starts considering a postdoc to improve their chances. I know a teacher who completed his postdoc at IIT Ropar. Currently, he is working as a chemistry faculty member at a NEET coaching institute. Do you think someone with such qualifications is meant for this? This is the harsh reality of pursuing a PhD in India.

[@sapnamelanta2381]

@@Anurag9344-q1i And what about the NET SET exams?

[@suparnasarkar4282]

@@Anurag9344-q1i Well said! That's why many students are not interested in fundamental subjects, now many students are opting for distance degree just for eligibility criteria. Because in the end job is needed! There are so many exams like Bank, SSC or state exams, which need strategic study and practice. Many friends of mine are in govt job after getting simple degree! But my seniors from iit who have masters or PhD they are struggling with unemployment or some of them are in coaching centre or small pvt college, or small firms, where salary is not upto the mark according to the degree and hardwork!

[@suseeln]

PhD is not a scam. If you are really interested in a subject and want to commit lifelong in the pursuit of it, It is the right course for you. Why would somebody continue onto a PhD, if they are looking at a job and money. They can easily become a programmer after their degree.

[@The_Golden_Beas-T]

PhD isn't for job hunters bro

[@suparnasarkar4282]

@@The_Golden_Beas-T Yes, PhD is suitable for those who don't have any financial burden, pressure of getting job or greed for money making. That's why everybody should analyse himself/ herself before pursuing PhD.

[@Blkbishta]

PhD takes about 4 years in Europe whereas in India it can take more than 6+ years..n most colleges dnt have good fundings n research facilities..stipends are also very low as compared to other jobs

[@biotecnika]

True, it's time to reduce the number of years and increase stipend

​​@@biotecnikaatleast eqvivalent to Grade 1 HRA DA Special Allowance etc.

[@Lilliana1]

Actually it's same abroad too. Stipend is actually far worse there believe it or not when adjusted for parity

[@suseeln]

​@@Lilliana1It takes only 3.5 to 4 years to complete PhD in Europe. The Stipend is not great, but nobody pursues PhD for money.

[@Blkbishta]

@@Lilliana1 which country??

[@manthanvyas7961]

Please Post interviews of recent successful PhD students who are doing good after PhD this will boost morale of upcoming generation

[@biotecnika]

Certainly, that's a good idea

[@nagalasatyasagar7266]

Very simple they test patience of students they don't provide necessary fund for innovation

[@shelldie8523]

Why lie. To soothe injured tempers. Btw iisc is considered a poor institute globally. They do poor derived research but print papers relentlessly. Don't blame insta

[@SanjayGupta-jv9zc]

​@@nagalasatyasagar7266Just as *Make in India* which failed to support the indigenous innovative manufacturing. PhD's are also demotivated.

[@sonujobchannel693]

Hello phd people... Those who are doing phd or have conpleted phd... Please share your experience in comments

[@hritikkumar4906]

IISc & IITs PhD life sucks😢 it took 6-7 precious years of life without even giving a minimal job assurity😢😢😢

[@biotecnika]

True

@@hritikkumar4906 even at iit and iisc?

[@atisdmitra]

IITs are overrated in computer engineering ,electronics and communications areas

@@atisdmitra What is the way out

[@vivekphadte7372]

I dropped out after 2 years from IIT Goa.

[@nishthapandey9798]

Yes sir..stipend must increase.. otherwise nobody would want to pursue phD and research in India

[@biotecnika]

Absolutely 💯

[@chanchalsinha-tv4ir]

As sir said, Instagram is the reason for distraction, but money is motivation, if they give good stipend then why not people want to spend their costly time in phd

[@prabhatmaji7106]

Yes csir/ugc should increase the amount by at least 100%😢the imbalance of work and earning is fu*king insane

[@biotecnika]

Ha ha Instagram is a minor distraction but real deal breaker and heartache is meagre stipend and delayed credit of the stipend

[@biotecnika]

Agreed 💯

[@karmawinush]

At some point of time, many scholars feel that they lost their original self through relentless toil. They don't want to lose themselves further which might make them a burden for their own family. Juggling with Research and Family responsibilities especially for women scholars is truly hard

[@biotecnika]

Agreed 💯

[@SachinChavan-gl5gw]

Exactly!

[@mndsaini01]

Toxic guides...treating scholars like personal assistant... Asking to do personal work

[@surabhi6739]

I have seen.😅they take tea ☕ from schauler

[@m.r.ansari2946]

I agree 💯

[@2saddy2]

I also decided to leave PH.D because the government didn't give me fellowship since last May 2024 ...

[@dexterroy]

Doing PhD for 8-10 years. Getting stipend, living for free in hostels, in some cases apartments. Wasting govt resources, contributing nothing to society in return. Many such cases.

[@chndn7100]

@@dexterroy I myself is in society and what kind of PhD help Elon Musk to build rockets PhD should be converted to mtech course

[@comrade_marshal]

We are talking about STEM fields. Atleast there are some returns if invested properly. What value do you expect from Fine Arts and Humanities?

[@suseeln]

@@chndn7100 He does not build rockets. The PhDs do it for him.

[@manpreet_kour_9]

One who has secured top rank in CSIR can't be blamed for being distracted easily... One reason people quit their PhD is that they don't choose the field of research they are interested in ...they just go with the flow...choose random advisors and topics and labs also because they are reputed ... considering all this, they forget to choose the research topic which inspires them...they take whatever is being served to them

[@harnisha91]

💯

[@suparnasarkar4282]

@@manpreet_kour_9 naukri hi nehi hai to kya karega rank leke!🥲🥲🥲🥲 Gharwale ka tana kaun roj roj sunna chahega bolo aap!🥲

[@bikbik549]

In many institutes in India like IIT's, students don't have a choice. First a bunch of students are selected on the basis of exams like GATE, then the students are enrolled in the PhD program without assigning any guide initially. Then students have to do 1 year or 6 months long coursework. After that only they get to choose the guide. And they do not have freedom as each guide can take 1 or 2 students. So students will have to choose 1 anyway from the bunch of these devil supervisors. Also I feel the coursework is a process made by the cunning professors so that the students are stuck in the institute. After 1 year is already gone in the name of coursework, students cannot leave the program to join other institutes or go abroad easily without losing valuable years of their career even if they understand that the professors are crap in research and have no good idea. The system is so flawed that it can break careers of many excellent students and professors are not accountable. I have gone through it myself. Go to any IIT or research institutes in India, you will see the level of frustration and hopelessness that a good student has to go through in PhD.

[@kalyanideshmukh7191]

Thank you for this video, such an insightful content on the situation most of us are facing.

[@biotecnika]

I'm glad the video resonated with you.

[@sagnikpattanayak1713]

Because of such reality, preparing for csir net feels like absolute waste of time I wish the government, phd institutions get this message from shekhar sir.

[@bikbik549]

In many institutes in India like IIT's, the supervisors have such bad behavior. They will take credit quickly for students' achievements, but will put all the blames on the students if anything goes wrong. They are not accountable. Most are jealous lousy craps who do not have the decency to show any respect to the students, from whose works they reap all the benefits for their promotions. Students also don't have choice to make informed decision due to the process of admission adopted in these institutes. Usually students cannot apply directly to a professor's research group. First a bunch of students are selected on the basis of exams like GATE, then the students are enrolled in the PhD program without assigning any guide initially. Then students have to do 1 year or 6 months long coursework. After that only they get to choose the guide. And they do not have freedom as each guide can take 1 or 2 students. So students will have to choose 1 anyway from the bunch of these devil supervisors. Also I feel the coursework is a process made by the cunning professors so that the students are stuck in the institute. After 1 year is already gone in the name of coursework, students cannot leave the program to join other institutes or go abroad easily without losing valuable years of their career even if they understand that the professors are crap in research and have no good idea. The system is so flawed that it can break careers of many excellent students and professors are not accountable. I have gone through it myself. Go to any IIT or research institutes in India, you will see the level of frustration and hopelessness that a good student has to go through in PhD.

[@suparnasarkar4282]

I have seen it in IIT ISM Dhanbad! Where research scholars are becoming more personal assistant rather than a scholar/ student! Maximum Supervisors are so cringe! Even any student wants to do job after MSc, they strongly criticize! They insist the students to do PhD ! Even the supervisors insist to do their personal works like ticket booking, give free coaching to their children, if anyone denies, publication will be withheld or erase the name from author! After these job warranty? No job warranty! If a scholar has link recommendations then he/she can get a simple job in industry or pvt farms! Otherwise they will suffer from unemployment! Even many students are suffering from this! After 33+ the opportunities become lesser than earlier ages! That's why plan B or financial backing is most important! Thesis theft is another issue!

[@ayanverma5746]

Completing PhD in India is bullcrap. You get no money. Loose out a good opportunity compared to other peers plus the education quality is pathetic. If you really want to do it then you should be doing abroad, probably in us, germany, uk

[@bikbik549]

Not only money, the professors are so entitled in India. Professors have the worst behavior in India. There should be a course on behavior before they take students.

[@abhishekkumarsingh-kb4cm3up2e]

Also, they don't really teach you in india how to do research.

[@biswalashis123]

MBBS duration needs to be reduced similarly. Many things are taught in MBBS which u will never use for twice. Also MBBS is like a nursery in medical science. There are still specialisation, superspecialisation, hyperspecialisation

[@anjinaik8162]

stipend will boost their interest ,mental strength ,financial issues etc..

[@biotecnika]

Stipend is another scam

​@@biotecnikawhat is the solution as per you?

[@Zuzeeww]

Good work environment, good stipend , not many years just for a degree...career guidance..

[@suparnasarkar4282]

@@biotecnika so true! Bohut log stipend ke lalach me PhD join karte hai! Jab dekhte hai unlogo ke aspaas ke log accha naukri kar raha hai to unlogo me ek FOMO ka feel aa jata hai! Then kuch log PhD se bhag jaate hai. Stipend ke lalach me PhD kabhi nehi karna chahiye.👍

[@Daisy_912]

I think job market is a big problem. There is almost 0.001% chance a Phd would get e job within 10 yrs of doing Phd. After Phd anyone have to go abroad for postdoc (except he/she knows some university prof who can get you a assistant prof post). Then the post doc cycle starts which ends in mid-40 or early 50. Many lifes are destroyed.

[@aswinisahu9887]

Thankyou sir for this awareness video about the pros and cons of PhD😊😇

[@shivkumarswamy861]

After all spending 5-6 years in Ph. D. Still students have been humiliated, insulted, ignored from the mentors. The mentors when they were PhD students there was no much compitation so they got the job before compilation of their PhD so they don't know exact struggle of it n they won't feel if student struggling his phd with 6-7 years

[@ganeshkamath89]

Industry oriented PhD itself needs a separate video. 1) People feel that they get passed over for a promotion. 2) Part time PhD is considered Full time Job + Part time PhD, so there is same expectation of work as before. 3) Opportunity given to pursue PhD is treated as some big favour so spot light awards and employee recognition are reduced. 4) People frequently keep askign how long is left in the PhD, even though you have just started. 5) Some people have notion that people giving time to PhD are distributing their focus and hence they should be not giving 100% to theri job. Job gossips can negatively contribute to employees career. 6) Less time to spare for family and loved ones. Missing functions, Avoiding inviting people to our homes, avoiding taking vactions can all be problematic to the mental health of the PhD candidate. Societal pressure can also be an issue such as pressure to raise kids, attend events with spouse.

[@tarungupta3590]

True Ganesh!

[@minnisingh2188]

Thank you for bringing this up. Much needed to address the issues. As a mentor, what I have faced the most is lack of self motivated students. Ofcourse, they are not planning and executing experiments the way it is needed, because of being the Instagram generation.

[@sameerr0143]

PhD is not worth the time and effort a person puts in. He or she is probably in orime of their age when they join phd and by the rime they complete it, life is half done, leave them jobless and emotionally damaged in majority of cases! PhD is not like completing bachelor's and getting into masters. Lets glorify this degree beyond it's actual worth!!!

[@GreenApophyllite]

True picture

[@priyankasalekar1156]

This video is surely an important one. PhDs need better mental support from their families and supervisors. It's difficult for a woman scholar to manage both, given the lack of understanding of people. Peer pressure makes things worse...instead of a competitive environment, researchers will thrive better in a collaborative environment. Also, students need to know the ups and downs of the research well before they face it, say in the form of a Master's degree with research or a research component in the Pre-PhD stage. Such knowledge will help them make a mindful decision.

[@TECHNOLOGY_INNOVATIVE]

Most of the companies, MNCs, PSUs do not make PhD mandatory at the entry level even for R&D. The option available is only in Teaching which also do not pay much. Also, PhD Is not made mandatory by AICTE. Private Engineering colleges coming under State Governments in India prefer only M.E graduates and employ Teachers only at Assistant Professor level and pay 25% of Government salary without any EPF and other benefits. These are all the main reasons.

[@GreenApophyllite]

True picture. No demand for phd.

[@tasneemsultana7732]

U r right, I totally agree with u, bcoz my husband suffered the same problems during his PhD.

[@tasneemsultana7732]

Even there is no job guarantee after 6-7 yrs of research work.

[@mkamalakkannan8327]

My son now running age of 30 years, completed phd, doing post pdf, nobody giving their daugter to marry him because no constant income job. I dont know when he will settle i am running 65 years of age.

[@GreenApophyllite]

Very true. Love marriage with colleague is the only chance.

[@prabhatmaji7106]

😅I got out after 6 months just after observing the seniors

[@sonujobchannel693]

@@prabhatmaji7106 Which Institute?.. Central?

[@prabhatmaji7106]

@@sonujobchannel693 IISER BHOPAL

[@abhishekmishra1290]

Then what did you?

[@prabhatmaji7106]

@@sonujobchannel693 IISER BHOPAL

[@smritarai118]

Yess I agree with all your reasonings , and PhD requires monotonous repetitive work with precision 👍

[@wegyaninc9034]

You have not spoken on nepotism, it exists and there are legacy lobbies on top institutions.

[@SureshkumarVasireddy]

Better to start panipuri business than doung phd. I am m. Tech biotech from iit and doing school teacher job. I get better payment than ph. D and post doc holders.

[@SureshKumar-y1b2i]

Why school job with iit mtech ??

[@krupavyas5649]

Sir please guide us why a aspiring life science student should get a phd because ,we as student don't have the idea of ground reality in the phds.

[@biotecnika]

That’s a great question, I’ll cover this in a future video.

[@nagalasatyasagar7266]

Life science what is your liked field choose something greatest in that

[@gopalkrishnsharma8989]

1. Only opt for PhD if you have good financial backup the stipends come after a year or 2. 2. PhD guide must be a person who is a available to guide you and take a review from her/is previous PhD students to know about placements, his funding sources and lab atmosphere etc. 3. India spends 0.6% of GDP in research so most likely you may or may not land a research job even after you have done PhD/postdoc from a foreign institution. Also research jobs are not adequate even in industry. Conclusion: Only do if you are able to deal with all the above otherwise invest your years in finding a job, you'll be much better placed with better income as compared to someone with PhD degree.

[@biotecnika]

@@gopalkrishnsharma8989 well articulated

[@suparnasarkar4282]

@@krupavyas5649 1.If you are from well financially stable family and financial backing 2. If you have strong passion and knowledge in your field 3. If you don't have pressure for getting jobs 4. *If you get good supervisor/ guide and project in good institute by clearing CSIR NET. Which is very very important*! 5. If your state govt gives vacancies in college/ university Then go for it. (Because maximum cases institute don't provide campus placements or off campus placement is not upto the mark in case of private institutions or industrial estates. Vacancies in Central level institutions are very very low or compared to zero, because in research or education govt don't spend much money from budget.) remember that stipend is not salary, it is for education and seminars( you might have to attend seminars in abroad!) If your age is in between 20-30 or 20-27( gen caste) and have financial responsibility, have no backing then go for exams like SSC CGL, CHSL, MTS, Selection post, SSC CPO, Bank Exams like IBPS, SBI po, clerk, RBI grade B, clerk, FCI, ICAR assistant, NABARD, SEBI grade A or state govt exams. These jobs are better than getting a degree after spending 7-8 yrs and getting a job which is not up to the mark. Take an analysis and decide what works for you. All the best.👍

[@aanchalrajput3869]

Absolutely Right Sir 👏

[@biotecnika]

Yeah

[@sonujobchannel693]

Hello phd people... Those who are doing phd or have conpleted phd... Please share your experience in comments

[@swatimadotra1291]

@@sonujobchannel693 What Sir is telling in video absolutely true. I'm a PhD scholar in one of the top IIT.

[@MrSatadal]

In India most of the students persue PHD for the stipend.. It is basically a temporary job to earn some money. All due to unemployment.

[@abdullahahmad2474]

Let me share my story...I also left Phd in physics from IIT Roorkee in first year itself because of the following reasons:- 1-Stipend is too low(37k) , with negligible increase.. 2- No permanent Job after Phd 3-After Phd you have to Do few Postdocs which will last around another 4-5 years .. 4- At this point you are already 35, and now You have to compete to get some decent Assistant professor Job.. 5-In all above cases, I have assumed best case scenario that you have completed phd in 5 year, Got decent post doc position, got good guide and your topic of interest, assistant professor recruitment Is fair ...(All of which hardly happens)... So Even if everything goes well, the question arises.."Is it worth it to work so hard for another 10 year of your life after Msc "?.. So I switched to corporate sector 😊

[@tharshinimg3279]

@@abdullahahmad2474 are you working in IT Sector?

[@rajendranv2582]

Suggestion Remove PHd from the clutches of UGC. In India in most cases PHd is a gap filler for women and delivers nothing to the society, though these guys are fully financed by the society. I get surprised what they contribute to us when funded by us. There are HEIs awarding PHd for trivial subjects. In Kerala one guy took PHd on a poem - vailoppillyude vazhakkula ( vailoppilly - late poet in Kerala, and vazhakula- the fruit a plantain produce) What way that effort benefits the society is wondering. At the top it gives a bad impression on University higher education to the student community when they enter for UG. PHd should be awarded after one reach a certain level of understanding the environment say after 50 years of age. Delink it from job. Most of the HEIs are not competent for awarding PHd. Right from knowing the person aptitude passion etc and also on the usage on the product that guy is going to deliver.

[@Fairyearth2222]

@@rajendranv2582 I don't think anyone took such a topic.

[@rajendranv2582]

@@Fairyearth2222 university- Kerala University. Awarded: Chintha Jerome. an activist.

[@Fairyearth2222]

​@@rajendranv2582 she did her PhD on neoliberal cinema, and not the one you mentioned, actually there was a line on the poem ,that's it. Nobody in the university, especially the subject experts will allow such things.

[@sanjays6259]

Thank you for speaking the truth😢😊

[@apalshankarguha4804]

Even i know many who left PhD from CSIR labs, IISc and IITs. Only those who are PMRF are doing PhD due to higher stipend. Others even after getting SPMF through CSIR are leaving.

[@adonbabu2319]

Its not just in India where people leaves PhD half way. Its almost common in abroad also.but the problem in abroad is that as time period is less, people will try holding on in even in toxic labs and somehow will complete the PhD and according to some data (from where I saw,I forgot), number of PhD students coming out each year is more than double the amount of job openings and as foreign universities also have some strict rules in the financial funding,the PhD scholars are asked to leave ASAP after they complete PhD and as the job openings is less,they had to take post docs and in most places they may have to take another postdoc in next 2-3 years and they have to continuously move from one place to another and by the time they can settle down, they will be around 37 or more as some some people say the more time you spent in academia more trapped you feel. This is not case for everyone, there are many lucky or privileged people who gets their things done faster. But majority situation is similar and as for people who join PhD for a better career rather than their deep interest in research,these things will become make their life feels like a chakravyooh where they already fell in and can't leave. So its better if you don't choose PhD if you are really not that interested in deep lifelong research.( Even after joining academia according to their wishes this suffering doesn't as they have to focus on grant proposals and other things rather than research). So its not that green on other side also.

[@biotecnika]

Very nice analysis, really appreciate your inputs and viewpoint

[@surabhi6739]

Thanks for your suggestion it will clarify our opinion to what choose.please advice what we can do as student of msc...

[@adonbabu2319]

@@surabhi6739 there are many other jobs you can do as a MSc graduate. Most stable one are teaching jobs while there are other jobs like clinical data management, Regulatory affairs, quality assurance, application scientist and so on for different subjects there are different subjects specific jobs, like environmental sustainability jobs, genetic counselor etc for biology background etc. we just need to find it. You can do many of these jobs in abroad also some have better salary in specific countries and you may need to attend some specific short courses and all. Just search for them and you will find.

[@rgopalakrishnan1975]

PhD requires passion. It is common that 33% of candidates to be chucked out of PhD in US, Singapore

[@swatimadotra1291]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@animikhaghosh6536]

Good to see one of the largest biotech portal in India is talking. But only thing I wanna add economy is not booming and there is a job scarcity in India. Indians are leaving india is the trend because middle class people need jobs/ professional development/ career progress. India has very very WEAK S&T ecosystem compared to USA, China and EU. There is no hope in India

[@biotecnika]

Agreed that India needs a better science and technology ecosystem

[@asiansamsung6953]

indian students leaving phd ❌ students leaving phd in india ✅

[@AX-sq5vm]

This people change the world for good But suffer a lot and loose a lot Corrept world

[@kaushikroy8805]

The problem with Indian academia especially with PhD and Profs is ego clash. And mostly it happens from the professors side. Professors are always vocal about blaming the student for their incapabilities during their PhD. They always say that it is the students' fault. If a student is unable to bring that research mindset within himself or herself, the profs simply says that he or she is unfit for phd. But if we look on the other side of the coin, is it not also fault of the profs that they are unable to impart that research mindset and the necessary things that a phd student needs. And even after completing phd there is no surety in India that a student can get a relevant industry job. Also I have seen another thing that in tier 1 institutes profs take "pride" over lingering a students phd for more than 5 years and they even provide "justification" for extending their degrees upto 7-8 years, saying that they are producing a good academic for the market. What about the students future then after that? I know many people who have completed phd in 7-8 years and still they are struggling to get a bare minimum job in the industry. Its high time to revive the academic scenarios of our country. Another aspect is that , many students who complete their masters from tier 1 institutes have heard a sentence from their guides which is " Job nhi lgi, aare phd karlo boht scopes hai". Not everyone want to pursue phd after an mtech or msc , they want to get into a full time job. Why this mindset prevails here...I mean why should any guide force any student to join phd where the student wants to pursue a job and settle down. The profa who are saying this they have thier career well settled and getting decent salaries per month , but they have problems with their students earning equal or maybe more than their present salaries. Ego is a big thing which mostly comes into play here. Phd needs dedication, patience, perseverence, tenacity. If someone is really interested for research then he or she can think of pursuing phd, maybe in India or abroad(better) . Other wise there is no point in pursuing phd from India and better to go for a job after masters and build up your necessary skills for that job.

[@Anonymous-e9y-o1k]

Industry oriented PhD is really a good option.

[@biotecnika]

Exactly 💯

[@tigrana123]

Which institutions offer this kind of PhD ?

[@lakhanpalsinghchouhan5639]

What is Industry oriented PhD

[@suseeln]

@yashikamaheshwari889 The real objective of PhD is pursuit of knowledge. Industry sponsors would only want research to be conducted in areas of immediate commercial interest.

[@manihriilawrence8430]

Thank you Sir for this video❤

[@manormanegi363]

Even after pursuing a Ph.D. the salary offered in India is very insignificant. So many years of hard-work, sacrifices for nothing.

[@superfluous5162]

@@manormanegi363 yeah if PhD doesn't open abroad gateway you waste your 5 yrs .

[@andromeda6985]

Excellent analysis

[@pritikabra2858]

PhD without stipend also should be highlighted...and stress created by many other issues need to be addressed..

[@santoshsubudhi9707]

I am working in a scientific organization and in the final years of my PhD. Recently, I was assigned as a technology advisor for a student of my guide. I agree with the observations. However, I would like to add. The students in my university get a handsome stipend of Rs 80K and a residential facility. In spite of that, I felt they were not motivated to work. The reason is that most of the students that join PhD lack any passion for research and a hunger to learn new stuff. Their only objectives is to gain temporary income and them land a job after research, which is not an unreasonable expectation. But research is very difficult if you don't have that hunger in you to learn new things and go ahead and hustle it out. This creates a big challenge for guides as well since the students are not so young and impressionable that you can motivate them to do research. Looking at these students, I myself don't want to become a guide when I complete my PhD.

[@abhishekmishra1290]

Where?

[@vlexical]

During my bachelor's degree, I asked one of my male professors, "How did you complete your PhD?" He replied, "If you want to pursue a PhD, you must face humiliation, peer pressure, and family pressure and learn to cope with frustration." I wouldn't understand what he was saying but I understand now.

[@parthasarathimukhopadhyay5943]

Very timely video. Fully agree

[@biotecnika]

Thank you for watching and appreciating

[@himanishray147]

In Indian now a days earning and becoming influencer is the top most priority of the young people. Government is less interested in utilising the PhD students, no interest in increasing the PhD stipend instead youtube & Insta influencer are given recognition somewhere 😢😢

[@biotecnika]

Ha ha true that. Nice observation

[@abheekdas7595]

I think IITs and IIS are bit overrated in terms of PhD. Scarcity of jobs after PhD is a matter of concern.

[@james_dk]

I left my PhD because of differences with my supervisor. There is no proper mechanism to address such issues so after spending more than 2 years I had to leave.

[@abhishekmishra1290]

In which stream? And now what are you doing?

[@Professorpap]

Phd = Philosophy of Dhokha🎉😢

[@laxmikumarigupta6585]

Lack of job opportunities. Even after having research experience of 4-5, the security of job is poor. Now people at their late 20s to early 30s have not much energy due to losing confidence as well as family and society pressure.. Overall very bad experience..😢

[@gamingpanther7773]

I am at last year of PhD but I left my first PhD midway. So the basic thing first: 1. Like any other job in India PhD scholars are replacable. Other you are verygood in it or people leaving PhD hurt the name of the guide. If you do not come under either of these you will be under great pressure. 2. If you doing PhD in general line you should compare your fellowship with salary of govt and private college assistant professors only. Because being honest the vacancy for scientists and university professors and high end indutry opening is way lesser than number of students graduated per year. So for majority college professor is the future. 3. Choose guide properly. If is always comfort vs goal and everyone thrive in different environment. If you want to know about guide, ask the students of the guide and also the students under other guides of the same institute. 4. It need sacrifice, if you get fellowship don't try to wrapup PhD fast. The longer PhD need is India is due to inefficiency of sytem and contrain of resources. If you take even 6 years your work weight will be same as 4 year USA PhD. European PhD value greatly depends on institute, they are more concern to finish it in 4 years than the standard. Any question you have, please feel free to ask.

[@sayandebghosh2681]

Phd ruins your valuable time and makes you confused. Expect for a lucky few its a curse for us.😢

[@GreenApophyllite]

Absolutely true

[@kmrao06]

What will one get after doing PhD in Engineering ! A big nothing !! Why should we waste our time even for doing a PG!

[@swapnilpatil2445]

For those confused one i would like to add few points- Those who think i will get more knowledge after doing masters or ph.d. then you are mistaken. The practical knowledge/skillful knowledge is important in every field. You can persue your higher education or ph.d. when you find there is some chance of improvement in your field which comes with experience. Otherwise you have to rely on papers published on various journals like ieee, springers. for your research topic selection.

[@subbaraod45]

Phd is a forced sanyas - life destined for living poor life with no perks.

[@sonujobchannel693]

😢😢

[@sandalbasotra5765]

I wish i left my PhD also midway. It took 7 years of my life. Its not worth it guys. I had scholarship, did it from CSIR INSTITUTE. But trust me, it's better not to do it.

[@superfluous5162]

Joing iit indore for phd with jrf stipend .take 1 yrs break do job bec my mom say me to do that .

[@strong6707]

Sir, what are you doing now? I completed my masters from a state university. I qualified NET and worked for 10 months in a lab, where I couldn't come up with any results (my guide was not at all supportive and one of his students left her PhD in between). Then I worked as guest lecturer for few months. My all time passion is teaching and wished to become an assistant professor, but now I am not getting any job anywhere. I am wondering whether I should do a PhD or not for better job prospects. Give me any suggestion, I am not very interested in research to be honest. But, still I can do.

[@akankshasrivastava4102]

Even I left my phd after a year and now I'm currently unemployed

[@kdhd100]

PhD is a total waste of time.... It's not worth it....

[@jyotsanasingh4315]

I left phd too in 2013, from Delhi University, south campus...I don't know about other's reasons, but I had to leave bcz of my toxic guide ..I was so sick that, I sustained in that lab for more than 10 months, when I had fever continuously...means atleast 22+ days in a month...it contnued till 1.5 years after leaving phd...I joined her lab when I weigh 44 kg & left the lab in 15 months, bcz I became 36kgs....we got only 2 days leave in a month...for me she used to say, if u get hospitalized, I will give you leave, otherwise not ...

[@btakilandeshwarig6860]

Expecting a video content more related to phd.. and which institute is stress free to do phd? India or aboard which is stress-free to do phd

[@samirbhalerao5579]

Dhirubhai Ambani was just SSC. Still he earned far more than any PhD.

[@biotecnika]

Education is never proportional to the earning potential of a person

[@samirbhalerao5579]

@biotecnika there is a PhD in J & K state selling vegetables. At least we are better than that.

[@satyam-evajayate438]

PhD is for those who are interested in academic or passion or technical excellence and not suitable for money making minds.

[@BhargavSushant]

Best way to obtain PhD is to do it from pvt uni, they will grant you a PhD in 3 years and you don't have to lose 5 , 7 years of your life. Even if you did 7 years PhD you are most likely to be employed by another research or educational org. Cost to benefit ratio is shit. Unless your priority is knowledge and research do not go for PhD.

[@shahatajbegum3542]

There are more hidden reasons than what is said

[@mohammadgufran9560]

I also terminate my phd in midway because i found government job in Bihar

[@tapashnandy3594]

Supervisors need to be more proactive. While candidates do not need to be spoon-fed, leaving them completely on their own without any guidance leads to stress. Supervisors must stay up to date with current literature; unfortunately, many are not...mediocre.

[@soumilyade1057]

Instgram is not even a reason... All the other factors collectively contribute to the decision. The research environment in India is pathetic and the research output after 5 years remain low in quality... There are so many other reasons.

[@biotecnika]

Yeah I am realising now after reading all these comments from fellow members of Biotecnika youtube channel

[@tapaskumarbagchi9786]

For the girls it is more difficult to complete Ph.D because of exploitation by some of the male research guides. I think the girls should come out with their personal experiences.

[@anitagupta678]

U get nothing after doing PhD I did PhD from biological science department of GNDI in 1981 but got nothing

[@mw66683]

Job/career - not guaranteed Debt - guaranteed

[@GeetaP19]

All your points are bitter truth.....coz of financial burdon people start loosing their mental health.for this reason Indian government need to expend the stipend.

[@VK-iv8jf]

Could you post the video doing PHD in europe. My daughter is very passionate about biology and she is currently doing integrated masters in bio in Bits Pilani. Whatever i researched switzerland and germany is good in terms of research and also in financial aspect.

[@suseeln]

@VK-iv8jf My son did his PhD in UK, What info do you want?

[@VK-iv8jf]

@suseeln like india, does it take more years to finish phd in uk or the said years of the programme?

[@suseeln]

@@VK-iv8jf No it takes only 3.5 to 4 years for PhD in Europe. My son could complete his PhD in 4 years even though there was Covid in between.

[@abdurahimanabubucker]

Very true

[@kuldeepnaik7955]

i did my masters in fruit science at Indira Gandhi agriculture University raipur chhattisgarh and guess what my department didn't have distilled water in the food testing lab I had to get water from my frnds department of soil science and also my hod didn't sanction my bills which i had spent during my thesis work I paid for all the materials I bought for my thesis. and to become professor in our university the avg bribe is 25-30 lakhs😂 whatever money govt sanctions for project work of different crops our professors spend only 20-30% of that money and rest goes to thier pocket 😅 and everone manipulates the statistical data to make it significant in thesis even professors tell their students at last to manipulate the data 😂

[@kdhd100]

Doing a PhD, leads to infidelity and cheating in a marriage.... Never marry a person who is doing a PhD.... Or keep your boyfriend and get married to a PhD..... Dono haath ghee mein....

[@Tom-hl8nx]

Why what happened

[@ayanmukherjee3830]

Worst work culture in most of the research group from all aspects. Exceptions are there.

[@zz-ly4qd]

problem is d mentor & money. Most of d time mentors r d problem.

[@suchismitakar2154]

Yes Sir. After covid I lost touch with my phd program to be very honest.

[@biotecnika]

I can understand

[@darprince6116]

Instead of begging every month for fellowship. It is better to do something else.

[@GreenApophyllite]

PhD is neither a job nor a studentship. Neither are you paid well nor or you being taught well. Its as good as going behind a baba. By the way, I am a University Professor with CSIR JRF, PhD from CSIR lab, and postdoc from USA.

[@m.r.ansari2946]

PhD is very very difficult in India

[@parimalpandya9645]

भारतीय शिक्षा संस्थानों में भर्ती हो कर ज्यादातर लोग निम्न स्तर की नौकरी चाहते हैं कि ज्यादातर लोग में कोई काबिलियत नहीं होती और इस लिए पदवी लेकर शिक्षा संस्थानों में भर्ती हो जाता है तो भारत जैसे तृतीय विश्व के देश में विकास का चक्कर एसे चलता है

[@readeasily]

Which AI tool used for generating the pictures?

[@rinipg3893]

Life time PhD .academia forcing us to do lifetime PhD and its not productive .Just waste of time

[@MrArunavadatta]

Supervisors who play with the future of the scholars should be blacklisted.

[@m.praveenkumar8769]

I have suffered, bcz of guide, did not helped up to the mark, wasted time....

[@manikantabondada6695]

Very informative