Birch plywood exposed! Lowe’s or Hime Depot. Knowledge is power.

The truth about birch plywood. Real birch is expensive.

[@Sean-tc7jm]

I’m a woodworker and a communications teacher, and I stumbled onto your video thanks to the algorithm. I already knew about the veneers, but I have to tell you that your communication style is fantastic. You pause and present in such an excellent way and give a beautiful beautiful lesson here, man. And I even learned some things about enclosures. Blown away.

[@twiztid1fiddy]

I work for a mill. Trust me I’ve known this for quite some time. Glad you are exposing this for folks to save them some money

[@justScrollin0627]

Now who is gonna be the first to argue with this man on THIS video? 🤣It never fails, someone gonna pop in this thread talking about " MB lying" "MB don't know wood like I do, cause I created wood" 😳😳😂😂😂 These fools man you gotta just laugh when they pop in! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@davidblalock1709]

Shiiiit. All I know is the box I just received from you sounds awesome!

[@philindeblanc]

Known that for some time now. But good to show the details. Well done!

[@mattjonesturbo1]

Baltic birch plywood is the one you want for subwoofer boxes it has about twice the layers as regular birch plywood and all the layers are birch and free of voids so it's quite a bit stronger.

[@edwardzx7]

Just curious... have you tried to separate the layers on the Baltic birch plywood? I’m asking, because I know there is a big price difference.

[@mattjonesturbo1]

I've never tried to separate them there's about double the layers in the Baltic birch so it's strength should be far superior to standard birch plywood and that's why it's priced accordingly.

[@weedshoes5089]

MARINE GRADE Baltic birch.

[@devilmademedoit77]

Another great video MB keep ‘em coming! Nothing but love and support for you ♥️💪

[@RoshDroz]

That's crazy you were able to completely remove a veneer in one piece. I can't believe you did it without breaking it, I guess it must be a decently thick veneer

[@djlangsex]

Yow put all joke aside I rate this guy. His face reaction his style no carbon copy. Big up your self bredda keep doing your shit some of us will learn and earn

[@dionm.basssr.133]

Good stuff to share for anyone that did t know pine subfloor matt, ply is ply , so ,resurface and make it work ...save your money THANK YOU!. Been using that since forest City in Ohio

[@jefflansaw9818]

Most lumber from Home Depot and Lowe’s is crap. Cheapest grade for the average or less than average consumer aimed at convenience. None of which is acceptable for the true audio connoisseur.

[@60NXNP09]

Facts!!

[@TheOnee7899]

Dam somebody been getting over lol😂😤

[@thedjrush]

Can’t wait for the tree expert to come argue with you 😂

[@vqr50]

Man, I feel stupid. They got me. It won't happen again. I appreciate your humor that kept me feeling light about it. I used the wood for light rigidity, and good looks. I did honestly wonder why the layers were so many colors....including green. Now I know. Thank you.

[@dcaudio1]

Ive been working with all plywoods and MDF and HDF for years. The MDF is the best for fabricating these bopxes, but you are indeed correct its very heavy, dense, and soft so it is suseptobal to damaged corners during shipping. The pywoods at the big box stores is indeed plies of pine with a single layer of either Maple or Birch or OAK.....now the Baltic Birch plywood was designed for cabinet builders and thats why it comes in 5x5 sheets. I will say this fabricating baltic birch plywood is wonderful because it is VOID FREE...unlike the Lowes, depot products. Out west there is a supplier to Lowes called Purebond plywood which is superior to the general plywood. For me its baltic birch plywood all the way, but Im not selling my products like you so having said all that. You are indeed correct.

[@massivehertz3869]

Ok now I'm pissed 😤 they have been lying about their products. I was not aware of this. I guess the only way to get true birch ply is to get the baltic birch. But it is so dam expensive 😩

[@asherdie]

They haven't been lying, but they do take advantage of the ignorant.

[@myevilbanana]

Big thing I’ve found with getting plywood for any finish project regardless of surface species, even pine, get it with at least one finish sanded side and if possible void free. If you get sheeting plywood and are trying to make it look nice you’ll have your work cut out for you unless you’re just carpeting it.

[@floboi1987]

Thanks for the knowledge my brother ✌🏿

[@f4i-king454]

Your one of my very favorite car audio gods. I watch as much of ur stuff as I can. Your intelligent, blunt, and break shit down soo well. To be hated is to be loved my friend. Hated by few but loved by many!

[@timmturner]

Of course it's veneer, I thought everyone knew that.

[@ATLBABY24]

Ooooooh Weeeee I know they Madd! Building those Pine Boxes... 🤣😂🤣

[@vectionnoitcev2836]

It used to be that you could rely on a uniform thickness of cabinet grade plywood but not any more. The manufacturers have cut so many corners in the processing that it's a gamble buying it any more. I've been finding veneer cores either lapped over each other or big gaps between veneer cores in several sheets in the last few years. It never used to be a problem. I don't like having to go over each sheet with a fine tooth comb before buying and manufacturers are taking advantage of that, once you've cut it you can't take it back.

[@catherineharris4746]

Straight up FACTS!👍 True Baltic/Russian Birch is 13 layered and Hime Depot nor Blow's sells it. I had to order my true 1" BB from Forest supply in Ann Arbor Michigan👍

[@christopherarronglaum6191]

Thanks brother your videos are great.

[@namegoesherenone6449]

Although its mostly pine, you do get less voids, and the ability to stain with a wood that has a great grain pattern! With proper bracing it will make a great box!

[@offroaddreams4x4ed]

Love your video’s. Just tell it how it is. Keep the good content coming.

[@JamesMoore-fb9sw]

Thanks for the info keep on making good videos preach...

[@michaelraykinney]

Speak the truth brother

[@BobbyJOnline]

Your voice sounds just like Bernie Mac when he’s lecturing the Kids on the Bernie Mac show 😆😆

[@kurtulustourism]

keep the facts comin MB thumbs UP man

[@josephmuniz9959]

Man a lot of us Love the shit out of you! Keep pissing people off and I'll keep loving it. Big giant thumbs up

[@DJBigMac209]

I have found strong string between the birch ply from HD i thought it was from my shop that got stuck to it but upon further look I saw it was in the center all the way from end to end. Great video more people need to know. I appreciate your time

[@bass321head]

Ok so I fell into the bottism, I am about to build a box for 6 10s and was looking at.the birtch from lowes for $73 a piece.. What would be the better wood to use?.. I remember a video of your I seen a while back explaing about some wood you get in the cabinet isle you use some time that just as good if not better.. I don't wsnt to use particle board. awesome video thanks.

[@m.a.saudio9667]

Keep preaching to en brother 💯

[@luisacevedo324]

Nice. That’s what I’m talking about. These guys don’t know. Cool video bro. 👍👍👍💯💯

[@timothykees6187]

Once again thank you for the knowledge.

[@cotx79]

I remember cutting that on our saw at Depot and it would splinter so bad sometimes cause the vaneer wasn’t glued on very well lol

[@workingclassperson2124]

I’m trying to shed some weight from my trunk I’ve always used 3/4 particle board/mdf what ever I can find. Going to experiment with a ply box 3/4 thick of course see if save enough pounds to make a difference new upgraded springs maybe me only option considering my two subs are bout 95 pounds each.

[@bigmarbigmar8158]

DAMN I BROUGHT MINES FROM MEANARDS, I FIGURED THAT MATERIAL WAS FUNNY BECAUSE YOU CAN PUT ANYTHING BETWEEN 15 LAYERS PRESSED THINK YOU MR.MBM

[@DIYAudioGuy]

The real baltic birch is 5'x5'.

[@M.B.Enclosures]

Yes sir.. and it not at Home Depot or Lowe’s

[@adireaudio2518]

Can also get it in 4x8 and 5x12

[@defiantcustomrides3202]

Exactly! I've built my share of furniture, cabinets, and a ton of enclosures. If you want the quality ply, you going to have to go to a hardwood supplier. Baltic/Russian birch is far better than anything the big box stores sell, however you will pay for it.

[@donellis5005]

Damn black-market Birch

[@yvettewaters-albright7385]

Dang, thank you for sharing

[@dcole808]

ALL FACTS... Man this channel is the truth!!!!...

[@fxgamer-11yt]

Good video man

[@jarrodevans6050]

The man is right.

[@bretjjjohnson7942]

That's exactly what I was telling someone the other day. I found that out a few months ago. After I sanded threw the first layer

[@franktorres8954]

Thanks for the knowledge. 👍

[@davidspl]

Very good information of the wood from were you bay it

[@steveharley2021]

I just built a box for two twelves out of 3/4 birch but I bought it at a lumber yard and it was 13 ply but it cost like $129 each sheet but it sure sounds tight when you give it a knock

[@jaysonoliveira4752]

I went with maple on my box. I'm fortunate to have an older brother that runs a lumber yard. Maple is extremely hard thats why most high end furniture that lasts the test of time is usually maple........

[@jaysonoliveira4752]

Lumber yard solid wood. Or even rough cut wood from a sawmill......like concrete, you can hit it with the D-8 it ain't going anywhere!!!!

[@dcaudio1]

After all that Im doing a 4 6.5" build using DC audio M3 speakers.....im probably going to make a nice box that looks spectacular and sell it. My choice of drivers is either JL audio, Kicker, Morel, Hertz, Fosgate and some others. JL Audio is always my number one choice because of the quality. They generally don't handle the power but im not looking for SPL...i am a SQ person. Ultimatley i want to go with 3 or 4 JL Audio 8w1v3 series subwoofers. My issue is the 2015 GMC Sierra has a very limited amount of space under the seat and I really don't want to raise the seat so im experimenting with 6.5" speakers but i can only squeeze maybe 2 cf of space out of my area. The biggest issue is the speaker mount area...i want to fire them forward and port out the side so as you can see my options are very limited. I may end up firing up with shallow mounts and calling it a day, but for now...its experimenting time which is always fun. BTW my current amp is the audio control LC 1.1500.

[@jondoe6618]

Great video man! No arguing with that!!

[@asherdie]

Density is key The lighter the wood of same size, the less dense.

[@akp41]

Thank you

[@williemccraw2073]

I always knew it was a birch veneer over pine. I can smell the pine when I cut it. Me personally I like the pine better when using a dark stain and no you can’t get better bass or sound using birch. You get a lighter box but that’s about all you get.

[@justforlaughs8988]

I'm building my 6th order series tuned wall out of mdf however I can personally tell the difference between Baltic Birch and regular Birch the density of the wood is more with Baltic Birch and there's more plies of wood the reason I can tell the difference is because I've been playing drums very very long time if you look at how a drum is made and make drums out of all different kinds of wood maple, Birch, Walnut, bubinga, etc and I've been custom building enclosures for about 12 years now regular Birch and pine that you would get from home Depot or Lowe's do sound the same but Baltic Birch which home Depot and Lowe's do not carry sounds different from regular Birch

[@rellyrell5409]

Do u make any full acrylic subwoofer boxes or with an acrylic front piece??

[@agma3996]

MB, just in case you haven't changed the title, it says Hime Depot instead of Home Depot if you wanted to go for that one.

[@catherineharris4746]

💡You have to be able to read between the lines😂 Trust me it's done in purpose👍

[@astromcd]

Probably the maple plywood they sell at HD or Lowes is the same.

[@SS-sw8de]

Salute!!

[@regthewarrior87]

Facts

[@VALAREZ]

wish I saw the part where you said "MDF doesn't ship very well" before I ordered a kicker loaded enclosure ....r.i.p baffle. And I live overseas so sending things back is too expensive to make sense.......

[@RodofAllTrades]

Yeah, that's why I only do the 13-ply baltic birch! I see that 5 and 7-ply junk and keep walking.

[@dabeardsmen3621]

Can you do a video on port positioning.

[@donellis5005]

MBE what about Baltic Birch, is it the same?

[@cheekclapper4sho-fv7sd]

Case closed, he knows his woods 😂😂

[@bassjasinski]

Great show! Have you used 18mm Baltic Birch for boxes? Curious if it sounds the same.

[@M.B.Enclosures]

Real Baltic birch is lighter.. acoustically I could not tell a difference

[@TheOnee7899]

@@M.B.Enclosures Aye man I want to say that your putting out good car audio info bro I know alot of people are gonna hate but it is what it is the TRUTH an alot of people can't stand it so keep dropping it I'll pick it up for sho and on top of all that I just subscribe to your channel been watching you lately

[@TheOnee7899]

@@M.B.Enclosures Aye man in the future soon I need a box built from you thinking about 4 10s soundqubed hds3.2 10s 1200rms each any other brand you recommend I'll take any good advice bro

[@M.B.Enclosures]

@@TheOnee7899 when you ready text me 404 694 4818

[@TheOnee7899]

@@M.B.Enclosures ok bet locking you in now

[@Qrvaz]

Surely this is illegal right? That’s wild. Like $90 a sheet from the Home Depot near me

[@owenhill6590]

I'm a finish carpenter by trade before my stroke and I hurt peoples feelings all the time.... In high school I worked at a lumber yard and we carried everything bc we had window and door shops on site.... Real birch is or was about 75$ a sheet back then 20 years ago

[@ogscythe6118]

Just bought a sheet from Home Depot of Red Oak Plywood for $60. Their Pine was $58. Birch they only had 2X4 sheets for $30. Crazy prices right now. MDF for $40 of 3/4.

[@bringmeyourweak]

@@ogscythe6118 I like their Red Oak, looks great just rubbing it with linseed oil.

[@antdogg8863]

wow knowledge is power

[@kevinAuman1]

Lol, I bet that thing was a bear to get separated 😂

[@christiansvideos8989]

Very entertaining

[@paulgood2218]

Good video

[@age_of_reason]

I can attest to this. My birch plywood is starting to peel at the corners or the bench I built from it.

[@marquesgraham7887]

Your wife Gonna be on your azz about scratching that table with that imitation birch.!

[@leejarman872009]

Fact not fiction.

[@williamhawkins296]

Where you located

[@greenlener]

Love it!!!

[@Tooted_Armada]

Duh. The sign on the rack says veneer, you ain’t exposing anything🤣🤣🤣

[@BenaresDarkness]

The only person I hated was my biological mom. I like how you show love to 8" sub's most channel's ignore them but I like them, I used to have a single skar audio ma8 and that was a little beast weighed in at 19.7lbs if I remember correctly.

[@kimlabrie7472]

I’m running a single 8 now that’s 40 pounds! It’s a killer. Made my CAS-Crystal Audio Solutions. On sale for $299 right now. Things a beast.

[@BenaresDarkness]

@@kimlabrie7472 I can't find a video on it.

[@95Sn95]

Yeah that's just cabinet birch, It's russian baltic birch that's the good stuff it has like 7 or 8 layers vs 4+/- of all Birch and that ply was about $90 sheet for .75", but I'm sure it's alot higher now.

[@BanginCaddy]

So no sound difference but how about strength? Would i need thicker with pine than a really nice baltic birch?

[@M.B.Enclosures]

No... not if it constructed right

[@stevofla239]

Yo man. My local Lowes birch plywood has Oak printed on the side. What you think about that?

[@johnnycorn7225]

Great work bro love your channel and delivery. I like saving weight so I go with the birch covered pine. What are your thoughts on using aero ports and the needed area of those being less than slots? Traditional wisdom says 6 to 9 square inches per foot( some say roughly 55 to 60% of what you need for slots) what is your opinion?

[@vqr50]

Replying to an old comment but...I love my aero ports. I have 2 15s each w 2 2" ports and each sub has 1.5xx cubic feet (after displacement and wood thickness removed). They are too small. I plan to move up to 3" ports, the current set up is loading against the subs and creating delay. The subs are Memphis M6 and each are at 1100 rms.

[@johnnycorn7225]

@@vqr50 yeah definitely need a lot more Port area for a 15 than that. If you're running three cubic feet ported for example a 6-in port will do very well. It's just physics the round opening creates less resistance to air movement than the square

[@vqr50]

@@johnnycorn7225 yessir, it's 1.5 ea side. They were walled off as a sealed box (which was the correct spec) then I posted and gained volume and some additional tones as well lost some serious compression/vibration. I need to upgrade to 3"

[@johnnycorn7225]

@@vqr50 are made to run in 1.5 cubes ported that's an insanely small box size

[@vqr50]

@@johnnycorn7225 no sir I miss quoted. It's 3 cubic ft a side which is the sealed parameter. 6 ft cubed is the ported volume 😳

[@judondarrington4475]

Awesome video bro

[@Sky-wh1yd]

I like this dude he's real as fuck speaking truth

[@CRXUGLYKID]

Wow

[@1012taz]

I'll still go with birch because, according to Google. Birch is harder than pine. Hard pressure while writing with a pen will dent pine. Pine will not stand up to constant use in a harsh environment, and joints will loosen more easily under pressure than would birch.

[@M.B.Enclosures]

Yeah right…hard pressure will leave groove in any wood. More BS…

[@1012taz]

@@M.B.Enclosures Lol!!!! Im just the messenger.... Love what you doing for the basshead community though. Your videos are awesome believe it or not. Thanks!!!!👍

[@jonkvh5150]

My last enclosure was "birch" junk heavy and splintered like crazy putting it together. Rather just use MDF

[@ceciljones1248]

Tell it like it is brother lol

[@joneastman5627]

Thanks saved me 40 bucks an a bad day😂👍

[@scottie6-573]

Fact not Fiction, from the most hated man in car audio... 100 percent that should be your channel slogan...along with cone area is king of course. People who get mad at the truth are simply proving to you their lack of intelligence. They don't want to admit they are sheep so they just ignore the proof and yell real loud.

[@clayinosaint3964]

Can we see your own wood sir?😂

[@yougod7253]

Yep

[@TheHiimrice]

What about 13ply birch? Is it birch on all layers?

[@kstreezydt]

How much to get a box built for 4 t1 d4 12s subs facing the ceiling ported

[@gerardogonzalez1455]

SMH that is f..k up

[@sermac3246]

👍

[@julianfreto1666]

Jesus!!!