Birth of a Spider 🕷, Dualtron Spider Electric Scooter Review & History

[@AlienRides]

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[@RevRides360]

Nice job highlighting the issues with regulations in Singapore. It's a sad condition. We are very fortunate in the USA but a few bad and reckless scooter riders could ruin it for us as well. Please ride responsible.

[@sushilolpee7894]

The main reason the ban escalated is because most of us went onto roads as we riders think its more safer to be on the roads. And also of the number of increasing accidents between pedestrian and PMD (Personal Mobility Device) riders. Between these two problems, the pedestrians on the sidewalks think us riders are problematic and dangerous. So we sort to the road. But the drivers on the road also think we are problematic and dangerous. Well we cant really do anything. Just got to pray that the government realises its better for us to be on the road.

[@theelectricfuture2618]

@@sushilolpee7894 Make more bike lanes

[@8_x_9.]

​@sushilolpee7894 Yes & no. Passing people fast is very dangerous+ not using warning sound ahead of approaching them.!!! Be a courteous & safe rider. Once you're away from pedestrians & cars, you can go wild!!!🎉❤😂. Be safe & smart.Thx.

[@gregorypatzelt6964]

This is the scooter I've been looking at. The weigh, power, and range are very inviting. However, the Falcon X10 makes it a tough decision!

[@AlienRides]

Yeah, that’s a hard call for sure, both are great scooters. The weight and size of this one probably make for a better commuter, while the 10X might be a scooter you can have more fun on. Maybe figure out what weight and size is important to you.

[@Icevater]

Alien Rides hi. What makes the 10x more fun? I’m torn between these 2 models. I’m looking for acceleration and fun. Range is not important at all

[@AlienRides]

Raymond Sutanto is weight or size important to you at all? If you have some leeway there, the 10X might be a more “fun” scooter due to the larger deck, handlebars, and bouncy suspension.

[@Icevater]

@@AlienRides Alien Rides weight is not important as I will not be carrying it around. Its not a mode of transport for me. Just want to have some fun around the neighbourhood. Unless a lighter scooter is more fun? I'm looking for thrills. I see in another vid the speedway 5 blows out the x10 in acceleration. Could you advice in terms of thrills n Fun which of these is best: zero 10x, speedway 5, inokim ox, dualtron Spider. Cheers

[@AlienRides]

@@Icevater I also look for fun and thrill in a ride, and for me I enjoy the heavier scooters for more power and a larger battery pack. IMO the Speedway V and the Zero 10X fit that bill. I think the Speedway V is going to win on pure acceleration, but the 10X is also a lot of fun due to the unique suspension, and being able to have fun while jumping off of things. For me, they're both about even, but if raw speed is what you're after, then the Speedway V wins.

[@yanassi]

Stem lighting is good for being seen, so the lighting on the sides is for what? Fixes needed: move the logo stem lighting to the front; add a stem folded locking mechanism that doesn’t interfere with the deck; deck lighting for visibility; add folding handlebars; add wide ergonomically comfortable grips; a deck lighting would be nice;

[@AlienRides]

Those would be very nice upgrades for sure. 👽🖖

[@typicaltwitch5740]

Excellent video First video that included Singapore insane scooter rules :)

[@AlienRides]

Neonx Thanks. Good for people outside of SG to know what’s going on there so we can prevent the same thing from happening here hopefully.

[@benbalazs4526]

My friend has one. I tried his and it’s sick. Want one so bad but don’t got the miney

[@AlienRides]

Yeah they are great scooters for sure. Hope you can get one some day. 👽🖖

[@sushilolpee7894]

Scooter community is still going strong in Singapore. Even I ride a first gen Dualtron EX and I dont see a problem. Just have to avoid the mobility officers, traffic police and LTA pickup trucks.

[@AlienRides]

LostSoul_.- I like that it’s alive, but sucks to live in constant fear of getting caught (

[@sushilolpee7894]

@@AlienRides Thats true. Gotta be on the run as always even on a bicycle. The Singapore Government is confiscating bicycles now. Do you believe that?

[@AlienRides]

​@@sushilolpee7894 bicycles?? 😮 Ugh... I didn't think things could get worse.

[@sushilolpee7894]

@@AlienRides We cant go over the speed limit of 10 kmh on the sidewalk. Thats why most of the bicycles are confiscated. As what your video said, this is obviously a money-grab opportunity for our government.

[@yrboyten352]

As of today e scooters are banned on both pathways and on the road in Singapore. Sad :(

[@AlienRides]

I saw that, very sad :( Hopefully some new political candidates can make PMDs a primary platform and this issue can sway the vote.

[@monkeyguy80]

Life in Singapore sucks ya!!! Hi I'm from Singapore & na owning a pmd is not a open society in Singapore. Now even change the speed limits to 10km on footpaths & banned pmd going to housing estate now. On july 2020, all PMD must be a UL2272 certification scooter, sucks! 😒🤨😠 I'm so envy you guys that in US is so openly & pmd able to ride on cycling road path. 😔👍🏼

[@AlienRides]

Yeah, the laws are really sad :( Similar laws have been passed in France, I fear it’s just a bit of time until they’re introduced everywhere. We will just have to enjoy live as-is in the USA for the time being.

[@jayeshpatel838]

Got my Spider......changed the handle bars for the folding Zero 8X ones and added a locking/tow handle - I can lift it up at one end and wheel it around wherever I want (like a shopping cart...). I have the Limited one so slightly wider tyres and 24 AH - it's awesome!!! Would like to send you some pics but cannot attach here :-(

[@AlienRides]

Jayesh Patel sounds awesome and super practical, congrats on the purchase! Enjoying riding it so far?

[@jayeshpatel838]

@@AlienRides Still getting used to it but yeah loving it.... Got it on Aliexpress and was delivered within a month so that makes it all the sweeter, still waiting for my Speedway 5 (3 months so far and counting.....) - ABS is crap though - makes a lot of noise, but not needed anyway! Looking forward to more WEPED GT50 videos, love it, want it - maybe next year though??

[@AlienRides]

Jayesh Patel yeah, finding I don’t really care for the constant pulse of the ABS myself. Definitely want to do more Weped videos, hopefully soon.

[@X2K9]

Thank you someone who speaks my language I 100% Respect you bro

[@AlienRides]

Thanks bro 👊

[@grabekaau]

I'm 84kg and my route usually is just around 4km from home to office but from the office going back I tackle a 15-25° incline. Would the Spider be a great option for me? I'm looking for its weight being 20kg since from the road I have to go up and down a flight of stairs. My current scoot is a go-board titan 8d, weighs around 26kg on paper and the solid tires though great coz no flats make me less confident to ride sometimes coz of traction. Hope you can help me decide if this would be a good upgrade.

[@AlienRides]

For sure, I think the spider would be a great option for you. It's really the only dual motor scooter I'd like to carry up and down stairs. You will have more flats, but it's worth it. If you can manage the extra weight a Dualtron Eagle pro might be nice also, easier to change flats.

[@grabekaau]

@@AlienRides thanks! Will give it a thought for the eagle hehehe.

[@ToHaru-Chan]

Very nice work dude! Excited for the driving vids!

[@AlienRides]

Thanks, they will come!

[@yanassi]

Lacking a locking stem and nonfolding handlebars together killed what should have a great performance portable commuter. I realize it’s made for weight restriction laws, but that’s not the case in many locations. My only weight consideration is carrying a scooter two flights. This scooter should’ve been a no brainer until you realize how “uncarryable” it is without locking in a folded position. Writing to dualtron in hopes for a “next version” spider resulted in them giving me a defensive response rather than they’ll consider solutions. As for portability they suggest i pay an extra $250 for a handle kickplate on top of the $2500 scooter price tag.

[@AlienRides]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I would also like to see an updated spider with better ergonomics. 👽🖖

[@8_x_9.]

A simple velcro band would of solved all your problems!!! 26kg/ 57.42lbs.🤑🙃🤫🫡🤗

[@RoyBenson-is7mu]

A simple VELCRO STRIP can be placed to carry it!!!😅.

[@laporchettaaltona6973]

can i ask when you said it struggled up hills how steep we talking about cheers

[@AlienRides]

Very steep, San Francisco hills. Around 20% or higher. (Most places don’t have these kinds of hills)

[@SebastianPappG]

Nice introduction of the spider and explanation behind how this thing was born... So... This dualtron spider, along speedway category, are the only ones allowed in Sg. Right?

[@AlienRides]

Papp Sebastian Georgian actually even the Speedway V is too heavy to be ridden in SG, I think the Spider is the only one that is currently allowed from MiniMotors?

[@SebastianPappG]

@@AlienRides I see. thanks for your response mate....by the way, which grade are u going to give to this product? Compared to the Thunder ? Let's say Thunder is a 9-10 experience for you, Spider is more like an 5? or 7?? I totally agree with the money grab by the Gov which u said....but also the fact that there were to many accidents with this sort of things. Imagine a 15 years old going 60 miles an hour on a Dualtron near by your car or something.....

[@AlienRides]

Papp Sebastian Georgian I would say that that it’s hard to compare directly since they are such different machines. For racing and long distance cruising the Thunder is a 9, while the spider is probably a 5-6 for me. But for bringing a scooter into a store or commuting with it, the Spider will win.

[@SebastianPappG]

@@AlienRides Spider will win also in a battle with speeday V? in a 3-6 km commuting / bringing into stores etc....Which one of them would you recommend for an Uber Eats kind of activity? cuz u tested them both ! thanks Sir !

[@AlienRides]

Personally I’d go with the speedway v for better battery and power.

[@jayrider3754]

Nice video bro', gonna test , compare this spider soon, good ride !

[@AlienRides]

Nice, looking forward to your video!

[@jpoorr9973]

I got an idea for the next video you can do. None has ever been done. What's the best type of Footwear to use while riding an e scooter. I'm torn between my new balance running shoes which have excellent traction, very flexible and no sharp edges. And my DC skateboard shoes which have excellent traction a wider footprint butt when you're not on the scooter little rocks tend to get in-between the sole design which could do damage to your grip tape if not taken out. And we all know how crappy skateboard shoes feel when walking. My new balance are way more comfortable and breathable but give me a smaller footprint on the deck.

[@AlienRides]

Interesting, I still don’t know what the best is so I would watch that video as well 😂 So far I actually enjoy riding in what are essentially work boots. Good waterproofing, feels protective, and has enough flexibility for a comfortable ride. Going to try some off-roading in them today on a scooter.

[@jpoorr9973]

@@AlienRides yeah work boots would be great if I can get the right sole pattern and flexibility. They're definitely more protection for sure. Well I'm getting ready to take off right now on a ride. It's sunny down here in South Florida but starting later this afternoon we're supposed to get like three or four days of rain in a row.

[@jayeshpatel838]

Finally got to see Dualtrons up-close and take them out for a ride - Thunder - OMG!!!!, D3 - maybe another year, Speedway 5 - I definitely made the right choice in buying this, can't wait for it to arrive (thanks again for doing that Speedway 5 video with the white version) and finally the Spider - this is a really nice scooter, just one issue is the tyre size but I would change for D2 ones - gonna have to start saving up again I guess, not the cheapest but for my needs - perfect! Thanks again for these great videos (perhaps a Zero 8X/Dualtron Compact comparison one next - hey what guy doesn't like wide chunky tyres huh?

[@AlienRides]

Awesome! These machines are really amazing, and the wait is always the worst part of it all, but will be totally worth it! Definitely want to do videos on the 8X/Dualtron Compact as soon as MMUSA/RevRides get them in stock, hopefully they're still willing to work with me! 😅

[@jayeshpatel838]

@@AlienRides Looks like some was listening: www.aliexpress.com/store/product/2019-Minimotors-new-design-60V-24-5Ah-Dualtron-Spider-limited-10inch-Electric-Scooter/1587045_32982941516.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.11.333a1e210jlrKZ

[@8_x_9.]

It should fly up on very steep hills like it was demonstrated in Ankara,Turkey 🇹🇷 !!! What was your weight? Looks like you were reading off a telepromter😊. Thank you.

[@jpoorr9973]

How tall are you? That stem seems awful short. Also I've heard of people having problems with the tires not being balanced. Could be just a bad batch of tires. The ultra is running great. Got everything maxed out now. I redid the grip tape in Black but kept the center strip because of the logo. It's much better now with 8 1/2 of grip tape across it. Instead of using paint or regular pinstripe I bought a roll of reflective red tape. On the top of the deck I put a strip on each side. On the side I put a strip on each side. I put a strip down the center of the rear fender. On the front fender I put two pieces that look like fangs. On flat services like the deck it was easy but on the fenders it was a pain in the ass to get it to lay right . For $30 in material( including grip tape) it looks badass. In the day time is bright red but at night when light hits it it'll change to bright White. I wish I could send you some pictures of it.👍

[@AlienRides]

Ok, something weird is going on with YT replies, so hopefully it doesn't spam. I'm right at 6 ft or so, but I do find the spider to be a comfortable ride, though I would like a bigger deck. I am a bigger guy though, and have been told that I make the thunder look small heh. Very interested in seeing your scooter, maybe I can feature it on my instagram page. Maybe you can email me a pic.

[@jpoorr9973]

@@AlienRides yeah I just got your reply. What's your email address?

[@AlienRides]

Try: kevin@alienrides (dot com)

[@jpoorr9973]

@@AlienRides I just sent some. Let me know if you got them.

[@AlienRides]

JPO Orr got em, looks really clean! Nice job :)

[@kencatnguyen]

Cool ride Kevin!

[@AlienRides]

Thanks! It's fun!

[@arsalanansari7066]

whats the top speed you achieved on it?

[@AlienRides]

I think about 34 mph or so? Overall pretty good I think for the size and weight of this scooter!

[@arsalan101]

Alien Rides I weigh about 220 lbs would you recommend spider or kaabo mantis? And also how’s the wobble on both. Thanks for your help.

[@AlienRides]

Arsalan Ansari I like the spider a lot, but due to high rate of controllers failing, and especially for heavier riders, I might recommend another more robust option. I think the mantis controllers seem pretty solid, so I light go with that. I haven’t noticed wobble on either model.

[@LWTrock]

A lot of singaporean not using Dualtron anymore!!! most of them sell or in LTA HQ ! :(

[@AlienRides]

Very sad 😰

[@tomaswolsink7620]

Still be able to ride would be great here in the Netherlands Its forbidden to drive electric scooters unless there approved by government also they need moped registration kinda sucks that's my only reason not to buy one but damn I would love to get one

[@AlienRides]

Yeah, electric scooters are a ton of fun for sure, but wow that sounds like a lot of hoops to jump through there to have one. Seems like bicycles, and possibly e-bikes, are much easier to own there?

[@tomaswolsink7620]

@@AlienRides yes e bikes are everywhere :) but they have a max speed of 25 kmh pedal assist only ore a speed padelac which is allowed to have a 45 kmh max speed not sure if those are with trotle also the 45 kmh bikes need a registration plate

[@davedeluria]

Love it! Great Video! Keep 'em Comin!

[@AlienRides]

Thank you for your support. 🙏

[@Fren33]

Does MiniMotors have any sellers in Canada?

[@AlienRides]

Benjamin Lehto I’m not sure unfortunately, I will ask and find out. I do know mmusa ships to Canada, but might not be the most economical option. My affiliate link with them: minimotorsusa.com/?aff=7

[@sushilolpee7894]

Singapore scooters never dies

[@AlienRides]

They will live on for sure!

[@sushilolpee7894]

@@AlienRides Thats definitely.

[@guillermopacheco5005]

I take mine on Bart with no problems

[@AlienRides]

That's awesome. I know a bunch of people who bring their scooters on bart, great way to get around.

[@cheeveka3]

You should do a video on how to update brakes.

[@AlienRides]

Great suggestion, I'd love to do that if possible. We did it once in this video, but due to so much going on it was hard to focus on any one thing: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3a1iIKIo7Ofrrs In the future I'll try to do an in-depth brake swap video.

[@cheeveka3]

Alien Rides I was wondering between the Spider and Speedway 5 you think the sizes are similar or are they very different. I am looking for something that isn’t as big the Thunder that can still be powerful but something more portable.

[@AlienRides]

Slim567 both the spider and the speedway are going to be much more portable. The speedway is a bit heavier, but I’d probably go with that one due to having higher performance. The 20kg weight of the spider does make it really nice to carry in a bus or throw it in a car trunk though.

[@cheeveka3]

Alien Rides Thanks for the your input.

[@navitruck7042]

That wink..

[@AlienRides]

😉 Thanks for stopping by! 👽🖖

[@Ahxiang99]

I saw our grp photo :o 1:15

[@AlienRides]

BABI* amazing shot, is your scooter in there?

[@Ahxiang99]

Third dualtron from the right

[@Ahxiang99]

@@AlienRides instagram.com/ah_xiang0_0/p/Bol5IWElk49/ more pictures of our rides in my ig

[@AlienRides]

BABI* awesome pics! Followed and I’ll link to your insta in the video description.

[@jayeshpatel838]

Folding Locking Mechanism: scootera.uk/products/steering-bar-folding-locking-system?variant=19653068324952

[@jarisipilainen3875]

3:06 exactly but there is no written law for electric scooters. no youtubers ever has get stopped by police and get speeding ticket or riding red lights.nobody in control. nobody get paid for be in control lol.if like this hobby still ride 25kph public. NOT ON ROAD

[@mad-b264]

I BEEN THINKING ABOUT GETTING THIS SPIDER, OR THE ZERO 10, THE ONE I GOT IS TOO SLOW, I LIVE ON A TOP FLOOR SEE AN IT WOULD BE HARD WITH A MONSTER SCOOTER THO I WOULD RATHER A MONSTER SCOOTER, SOMEBODY SHOULD INVENT A TELESCOPIC SOMETHING TOO HELP YOU GET A BIG HEAVY SCOOTER UP FLIGHTS OF STAIRS, BIZ IDEA THERE, LOL, I WOULD IMAGINE A TOOL LIKE THAT WOULD SELL TOO PEOPLE WITH BAD BACKS ECT... WHAT OTHER SCOOTER'S WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT IS LIGHT ENOUGH FOR STAIRS BUT STILL PACKS THE POWER FOR ROADS, ECT, BUDGET OF 1000, 1500, WHAT WOULD YOU BUY FOR THAT PRICE??? I NEVER KNEW THAT ABOUT SINGAPORE, THE CONTROL CONTROLS THE CONTROL OUT THERE BY THE LOOKS OF THINGS, LOL, SO IT IS THANKS TOO SINGAPORE THAT WE HAVE E-SCOOTERS THEN IS IT?? FAIR PLAY, I BET IT IS CHEAP TO BUY THESE OUT IN SINGAPORE, LOL, NICE 1 FOR THE VID, LEARN SUMMIT NEW EVERYDAY.....

[@AlienRides]

Stairs are tough, because the more power you want, the more batteries and motor you have, which is just weight. I would say the spider is an excellent lightweight choice though for your situation. Little expensive, but it’s awesome.

[@ryarbrough1000]

Read that teleprompter 😂

[@AlienRides]

Hah, yeah i'm terrible at youtube 😬

[@FoxHPH]

Класс, только не понятно)

[@AlienRides]

Вы пробовали автоматические переводы видео? Не хорошо? (Использовал гугл переводчик)

[@TsuAvenue]

Lost my v2 spider key to my scooter 🛴🥲 can I get a replacement