The mod is so set on the historical WW2 experience it will induce crippling blackouts to itself then let the Allies win prior to 1945. Truly one of the mods of all time.
@Carl-Gauss4 ай бұрын
Tbh Third Reich got lucky multiple times in irl WWII so Allies winning before 1945 makes some sense.
@FlightLine42404 ай бұрын
@@Carl-Gausscurious what events you had in mind! Maybe the Italians lasting as long as they did lol
@augustkoningen99704 ай бұрын
@@FlightLine4240France Falling the way It did was a massive amount of luck
@balinthehater82053 ай бұрын
@@FlightLine4240 France going the way it did, the fact that the german's own incompetence made them postphone the invasion that they were actually planning, the plans for which were actually captured fully intact by the belgians and given to the allies was a big reason why fall gelb and rot were so successful. Germany was also extremely lucky that the British and the French basically bungled the entire inter war alliance building. Until they condemned Italy for their Ethiopian adventure Mussolini was against the Anschluss of Austria. There was also guaranteeing the polish only against the Germans and giving up Czechoslovakia to the Germans for free. Without the gold gained from both Austria and Czechoslovakia the German economy, which was built on basically a Ponzi scheme, would have collapsed, the officers were ready to mutiny in case of war( as proved by the officer conspiracy which contacted Chamberlains office to implore him to deny the sudetenland demands) and Italy would have been on the allied side.
@kylezdancewicz73463 ай бұрын
@@FlightLine4240fall of France was basically complete luck combined with French. Germany and Italy not becoming bitter rivals over Austria was extremely lucky as both wanted influence and control over it. Soviets agreeing to let Germany conquer the rest of Europe assuming that after Soviets is the only threat left Germany wouldn’t immediately stab The allies not doing anything in Munich, invasion of Czechoslovakia, or the beginning of WW2 in Poland while Germany was much weaker or at minimum likely unable to resist a Franco British push into the Rhineland. Belgium and the lowlands decided to reinforce their neutral stances even after ww1 showed Germany did not respect their stances. North Africa not immediately collapsing for the axis because the incompetent British generals in charge fell for the same trick over and over again letting North Africa rebound and even threaten Cairo. Germany is lucky that Scandinavia and Bulgaria decided to just placate the Germans to remain sovereign instead of fighting which would have caused significant issues. Oh and they got lucky where the initial blitzkrieg in Poland was enough to convince the Soviets it would be a quick victory and jumped in as else the German advance was stalling fast and casualties were going to start mounting without the Soviet invasion from the east making the Polish position hopeless. They’re lucky that invading Poland and allying the Soviets didn’t strain relations with Japan.
@andrew_wow68924 ай бұрын
No failed offensive into Saarbrücken at the beginning of the war, try again
@aarnopajakkala43204 ай бұрын
Now play luxemburg in black ice...
@ImJustAKwimpOfficial4 ай бұрын
Nah, Tannu Tuva.
@martinsoelsepp55694 ай бұрын
@@ImJustAKwimpOfficial Yeah, atleast Tannu Tuva has USSR and Mongolia to shield them. Luxembourg just gets rekt once the war starts.
@Titanium2w4 ай бұрын
true
@mildridsegersten66394 ай бұрын
Nah Etiopia
@bruhgamer-gz5nq4 ай бұрын
Like im intended
@Garibaldi014 ай бұрын
Now BICE, elite difficulty, expert AI, artillery only Luxembourg
@myththegoatlover4 ай бұрын
bro wants him to lose his mind and sanity 😭
@mononoob11344 ай бұрын
@@myththegoatloverits possiple
@R-BGamingUK4 ай бұрын
YES!
@Normalguy16904 ай бұрын
Does BICE not already use a version of expert AI or should it be run separately?
@simeonplayz49144 ай бұрын
I did artillery only Luxembourg in Black ice actually
@Parakas154 ай бұрын
Spanish intervention crisis isn't date based. It fires based on the surrender progress of the Spanish republic so if you're very lucky the entire crisis could never fire if the Republic just does very well or it could fire almost instantly if they just get dumpstered in the opening part of the war.
@Yugoslavian5304 ай бұрын
BitterSteel owns this mod at this point
@Totalynormalper4 ай бұрын
I mean,he's very good at hoi4
@wedgeantilles39834 ай бұрын
You missed his livestream the other night playing Black Ice Italy and having a baby shitfit and ragequit lmao
@Yugoslavian5304 ай бұрын
@@wedgeantilles3983 aww man I miss the best streams F
@snowmeows33424 ай бұрын
Him and College
@Totalynormalper4 ай бұрын
@@wedgeantilles3983 I was asleep
@lightmarkal2734 ай бұрын
"We made this mod with history in mind. That's why we put a bunch of events where divisions just randomly pop in existence!"
@LuqmanKhan-n4q4 ай бұрын
Blitterseel" refers to a specific kind of German folk art that involves intricate paper cutting. These designs often feature elaborate patterns and motifs, typically cut from a single sheet of paper. It's a traditional craft that showcases skill and creativity”. Now i know the secret behind him😅😅😅
@Rincewindus4 ай бұрын
Honestly, it seems like sometimes this mod leans needlessly into being hard in a way that clashes with it trying to be historically accurate. France should not be lacking in it's industry to the point where it has to compromise on it's air force, just like the Soviets should not be lacking on WW1 doctrines.
@jhrb51364 ай бұрын
Bittersteal with a 30 minutes long video about an impossible HOI4 challenge, what a great afternoon
@Bitt3rSteel4 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it!
@jhrb51364 ай бұрын
@@Bitt3rSteelyou fought your own members, add a meme of Anakin and won the challenge, of course i enjoyed it!!
@culannthehound944 ай бұрын
When Bitt3rsteel said he was not going to compete in the air I was curious to see how that would work out being at the mercy of AI US and UK. Wasn't expecting the AI to just check out.
@justmapping4 ай бұрын
The fact, that Italy is the MVP of the Axis and Germany is pretty much a deadbeat who didn't get a cm of french land and got Axis in a war against the USSR while they haven't even defeated France is deeply concerning
@154Kilroy4 ай бұрын
21:02 always set the strike fleet to repair priority low or maybe medium if you're worried it might actually have a chance of getting beat up. Repair priority high creates this. Also, dont have them set to split off because subs can sink isolated ships en route to repair. Thats actually a good way to defeat the AI because they leave it on. Just check the fleet periodically for damage and send ships that need it to be repaired manually. Subs have the opposite settings, use split off, and repair priority high. They're ok on their own usually. Destroyer squadrons set to repair high, and no split off for patrols, and split off for convoy escort.
@154Kilroy4 ай бұрын
There is something to be said for destroying encircled units from landings though.
@maxfioretti89654 ай бұрын
You cannot escape, Luxembourg awaits you.
@glauberglousger9564 ай бұрын
And this is why France is probably the easiest nation to play if you know about history/want to start the game The Maginot line worked perfectly, nothing went through, so extend it, so nothing goes through the alps, or the northeast, and park your entire army over there Skills required, knowing how to move your divisions, and knowing how to build forts (A few other things can help, like Anti Air, Supply Hubs, and fuire forts along the swiss and spanish borders, as they can be conquered/called in eventually But for a beginner, 9 times out of 9.5, you can do this, and safely AFK, The British take care of Navy, Air, and Africa You don't need to know about factories or such, all you need to know about, is how to build forts, and move divisions) Then you can feel fre to experiment with strange stuff
@TV4ELPАй бұрын
Been playing random European Nations and not a single one was as easy as the french. You can mess with germany by just aiding the Czech and getting some local support on the continent and then carve out the at that point still rather weak Germany. Turns out, Germany isn't as strong if the rest of the world actually honors their defensive pacts and they cannot go against one after the other.
@TheKadanz4 ай бұрын
"this has not been enjoyable" yep, black ice in a nutshell.
@LukyList4 ай бұрын
Historical Czechoslovakia in black ice when?
@tamasvas19194 ай бұрын
That would be a short game
@spookygloberotter054 ай бұрын
I feel like if France held on like that the 20th of July plot would happen earlier, Operation Valkyrie would work out and we'd basically get the same result from WW1 lmao
@jaredjosephsongheng3722 ай бұрын
What's the 20th of July Plot? I believe what you're actually talking about is the Öster Plot where Hans Öster had contact with the Allies during 1939-1940 for a planned Coup of the N*zis if the Frontline stalled in Belgium or France again.
@spookygloberotter052 ай бұрын
@jaredjosephsongheng372 oh I didn't know about that one! I was talking about the plot that happened in 1944. It's also called Operation Valkyrie in some places.
@paulthiede4 ай бұрын
20:01 Ah yes, Salamanders
@guard60694 ай бұрын
I think this mod mades the AI move troops accordingly to historical scenarios. For example, the British AI doesn't bother to help you that much since it thinks France is gonna fall anyways. Or Germany taking away soldiers from the Benelux is probably because at that point it doesn't expect France to be there anyways and it's probably busy thinkin they are going to invade Italy or something
@ImJustAKwimpOfficial4 ай бұрын
France is already a pain to play historically in vanilla…. Why do you do this to yourself xd
@aled8454 ай бұрын
It's really not hard in vanilla... I've had many games where I destroyed the UK, the low lands and Germany by 1938
@HPLovecats4 ай бұрын
@@aled845 thats not playing historically....
@aled8454 ай бұрын
@@HPLovecats sure that's the napoleon path I do as a proud french. The fascist one is okay as well, even though you're cucked out of a focus because of historical italy. But even historical France with leftist parasites is winnable. You can easily hold your territory until Barbarossa and then armored push through Belgium
@ddesmarais72514 ай бұрын
@@HPLovecats genuine question, did France have any paratrooper divisions in WW2? I don't care who answers this I just wanna know
@HPLovecats4 ай бұрын
@@ddesmarais7251 they did, but none saw combat during the first battle of france
@TheOwneroftheIC4 ай бұрын
The "realistic" mod where Hungary, unprompted, declares war on the Soviets alone and Germany leaves a contested border...
@JohnSmith-zl1tr4 ай бұрын
Sometimes the AI does things like abandons borders. It doesn't happen all that often but it does happen. I think it tends to happen more in larger wars rather then the smaller wars that most of the in game time is spent fighting.
@TheOwneroftheIC4 ай бұрын
@@JohnSmith-zl1tr you spend most of your time in this WWII based game fighting smaller wars?
@JohnSmith-zl1tr4 ай бұрын
@@TheOwneroftheIC if you play say Germany historically your first war is a small one against Czechoslovakia. The next is against Poland, with a small holding front against France and some port guards to stop Britain. The third is against Denmark and Norway. Only then would your fourth war or perhaps I should be saying campaign, be against a major power, namely France. After that it depends on how you deal with Britain which if you can make a landing is usually small because most of their army usually isn't home. But you would presumably have another major war against the USSR. After all that you might do world conquest or something but you're basically unstoppable at that point given the resources and industry you'd have. So that's 3 small wars, and 2 big wars and 1 more war that could be considered big or small. So mostly small wars. If you play a smaller nation like Hungary reforming the Austro-Hungarian empire you'd have a series of small wars against Austria, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, and Romania which might escalate into a bigger war at any time depending on how well you navigate the guarantees by Britain and France. After which you might have a big war against the Allies or the USSR depending on what you want to do. But most of your game would be working on those small wars building up to the cool big war.
@shepherd35224 ай бұрын
Spawned-in units can be realistic but with limitations. Militia brigades might be created if the enemy come within a set distance of a city. These brigades should have very limited equipment and only have limited organization at creation (perhaps 20%). If they are hit quickly, they will fold. This would reflect city populations being quickly organized to offer resistance. Spawning-in of a main historical division should require a focus (some sort of commitment), it should test that the creation location is controlled and the unit's start organization should be limited at creation. Spawning of partisan brigades could be included but these should be weak, with little equipment, low organization and low (perhaps no) speed. Given the extreme attention to detail in Black Ice, the unit spawning is odd. There seems to be no effort to make it realistic and it seems to only be there to disrupt the player.
@jaredjosephsongheng3724 ай бұрын
Original Title: Black Ice but this time I revenge my disaster in France
@Monksy13374 ай бұрын
Other changed title, Black ice france... but I'm competent?
@jaredjosephsongheng3724 ай бұрын
@@Monksy1337 Yeah he changed it again
@griff21624 ай бұрын
Our losses may have been bitter but we stand strong as steel
@playerone7404 ай бұрын
"France is just a Lot of Ass" 😔 true
@GamelinPK3 ай бұрын
From someone who has played France in BICE numerous times I feel you got a little lucky here on the front towards germany. Also I think it would be interesting to watch you microing the battles shuffeling units around. Had they kept persisting with attacks I don't believe the line would have held. What also happened on the air side? Usually Germany and UK has a little air war over BENELUX which Germany wins. After that Germanys air force felt a bit missing? Would have been great to watch an unedited clip of the war from August 1940 to December 1941 as someone who loves war analysis. Do you still have the savefile?
@1Godslayer14 ай бұрын
Hopefully next time The French won't care about Belgians feelings and protect themselves and finally redeem their reputation.
@lemonademan9874 ай бұрын
Hopefully there won't be a next time 💀
@rogueemerald4 ай бұрын
Would love to see an autumn begonia mod playthough!
@arvojustice4 ай бұрын
Pick one kind of artillery, either medium or light, not both.
@Lawnmower9793 ай бұрын
Your first France game was the first time I’ve seen you lose a war
@T1tty5uck3r4 ай бұрын
The title sounds like "drinking water, but it's wet". Mon ami, you are already competent. It's experience that you just didn't have yet
@jamieoboyle71004 ай бұрын
Definitely enjoying the black ice vids, but would you ever consider going back to that carlist Spain run you lost? That disaster save one?
@nickthenuker79164 ай бұрын
8:56 minimum waise rage
@this_is_3bdo4 ай бұрын
It's funny how no one else noticed literally
@helios102619994 ай бұрын
oh man I've been looking forward to bitt3rsteel to have another break down! lmfao.
@krzysztofsowinski37264 ай бұрын
Salamanders referrence at 20:02. i see you are man of culture
@ChadTanker4 ай бұрын
we need black ice on the map of magna europa
@SadSwedenBoy4 ай бұрын
The guard dies but does not surrender!
@angelvaf-g8p3 ай бұрын
Suggestion for historical Disaster : Qing Empire Mod : End of a new Beginning 1857 it has at least 4 rebellions ongoing and more would come
@ovca4104 ай бұрын
I've seen a number of videos of hoi4 black ice and so far in every video, when the player is about to win againt germany, the game crashes, but when he's playing as Germany, the game lets them. Wierd, right??
@dodgyduck98414 ай бұрын
fair play you did what France couldn’t do in the war, not give up at the first sign of defeat
@mikedobbelaere25524 ай бұрын
You are starting to develop a love hate relationship with the mod ain't ya? It is growing on you.
@declancain29884 ай бұрын
"Into the fires of Battle unto the anvils of war." has Bitter become a Salamander? No complaints if so.
@malik7404 ай бұрын
Even tho on a general basis people dislike watching other humans in distress, suffering is always very good content haha
@monkusaugustus40174 ай бұрын
In case you're still wondering on how to avoid using NATO symbols: in the division designer, edit a template, click on the icon on the top left, look for "default symbol" at the top of the pop up and click that
@JohnSmith-zl1tr4 ай бұрын
The great member betrayal of 19:45 was truly horrific.
@bruhgamer-gz5nq4 ай бұрын
Luxembourg black ice now
@Celavets4 ай бұрын
"That shit-... shifts"
@korhol20654 ай бұрын
I don’t think his first playthrough was that bad, he managed to make a German victory against the soviets unlikely if not impossible
@Sam-ne9nq4 ай бұрын
20:04 You know it is a suffering when it gives you 40k flashback 😊
@scottandcoke13424 ай бұрын
I wash myself with a rag on a stick
@RichardMontgomeryYT4 ай бұрын
I dont wash myself
@randomguy20234 ай бұрын
Based on
@barkthebarker4294 ай бұрын
Congrats pal, you really did it 🎉
@GrantelHerbert4 ай бұрын
Belgian World Domination in Black Ice please
@malik7404 ай бұрын
Belgium has as far as I know basicly no content in BICE sadly :(
@gaspy24584 ай бұрын
I can watch him play black ice all day long tbh
@DaCubanKito4 ай бұрын
You should do black ice multiplayer allies vs axis
@mcjohnsen89094 ай бұрын
glad to see my guide was useful :D
@MorshuArtsInc4 ай бұрын
Remember: You may only call yourself a Greedy Civ Boy if you're from the Greedy Civ Boy region in Canada. Otherwise you're just a turbocapitalist.
@TheErickDH4 ай бұрын
would love to see some funky Black Ice action outside of Europe, like perhaps Siam or Afghanistan?
@ReggaeIGandalf2 ай бұрын
Would like to see how you manage to save germany at this point 😄
@MuppetLord14 ай бұрын
almost feel like they should program the mod to have germany ally the soviets if the player is on allies side, would make for a more interesting war. :)
@bacongud85534 ай бұрын
Everytime he plays France when the USA comes he always calls it the freedom train 😭
@benjamino94494 ай бұрын
That run was ruined for the average player but not for Bittersteel 🗿
@Marin_le_poisson4 ай бұрын
Bonjour de France ! Honhonhon baguette ! 🇨🇵🇨🇵🥖🥖🍷🍷
@ringthatbell95974 ай бұрын
8:19 “some of you may die… but it is a sacrifice I am whiling to make” -Lord Farquaad
@onewowen4 ай бұрын
Event spawn troops are ass in realistic mod like this and i don't understand why modders keep adding them.
@KixSlim4 ай бұрын
Wanted that satisfyingly peace deal so bad but we will still take it
@lavenderblack14 ай бұрын
Lmao its actually pretty funny that the mod made ur channel members side with the enemy like they deserted you 19:45
@bhoyers33154 ай бұрын
If it keeps crashing I would stop until it becomes more stable again, not sure if it was this mod that crashed during the live stream too, but if it makes it unworkable there isn't much you as the streamer/creator can do
@sahilhossain82043 ай бұрын
Lore of I went back and fixed my own French failure in the HARDEST MOD! Momentum 100
@HaartieeTRUE4 ай бұрын
25:15 that sound + the black screen on full screen scared the shit out of me.
@Pikanchion4 ай бұрын
A metric ton of factories? What, are you just building part of the wall for one of them or something? =P
@Vidar13124 ай бұрын
Black ice - BI - be infuriated
@PrestigiousWarrior65004 ай бұрын
Historical ussr
@JohnSmith-zl1tr4 ай бұрын
I think he USSR in black ice already. I'm not sure about vanilla though he's definitely done some USSR videos.
@Nighthunter66664 ай бұрын
You did all this suffering and funnily enough, war participation is only at 53%. xD HOI4 at it's finest.
@diamonddom604 ай бұрын
Every time i see black ice I remember just how much better the icons that standard HOI4 uses are. The unit icons would be better in hieroglyphs for a regular person lol
@Benepene4 ай бұрын
Well seems like this mod is not in a good state. Crashcity and that implementation of Expert AI where there are "strategic" withdrawals from the frontilne letting you win the game?
@lyra53664 ай бұрын
I can't believe someone would willingly play France in black ice not once, but twice. Hats off to you!
@chuyennguyen47844 ай бұрын
what if you dont build land ford and hold the german like ww1
@jep1st4 ай бұрын
Not an easy task since the Germans have a large airforce and plenty of tanks. You would definitelly need a lot of AA or an airforce of your own and AT to even think about doing that without forts.
@xannie94304 ай бұрын
Democratic Luxemburg world conquest when?
@hoppingshark76764 ай бұрын
Now try china on black ice 💀
@randomguy20234 ай бұрын
I’ve tried it, it’s not as hard as you might think
@ComciastJSA3 ай бұрын
Am i the only one who loves the black ice mod?!?!😂😂😂
@Blader4454 ай бұрын
Viva La France!
@kotletschabowy41694 ай бұрын
Honestly, you may be better off playing some other mods, we still enjoy these (for example, I'd like to see you play unification wars) and you won't suffer as much. That mod is just unfair at times.
@sanha1814 ай бұрын
Salamanders reference spotted!
@G_man-v6f4 ай бұрын
Love your videos
@YiannissB.4 ай бұрын
It feels like the BICE team decided that the moment the player starts to win the game might as well, just to fuck with you. What's fun anyways?
@vildanlatypov86964 ай бұрын
so can I quote this video when I ramle how france could have won or even prevent ww2 if they just have extended majinot line?
@jep1st4 ай бұрын
In real life, France had all the tools to stop the Germans but due to their poor leadership and WW1 era doctrines they couldn't handle the Blitzkrieg. Germany won simply because they were smarter and the French were not prepared.
@Wormopera3 ай бұрын
Does this mod have alt history paths
@wilsontheknight4 ай бұрын
At this point i think BitterSteel enjoys the mod and is using his subscribers as an excuse to play as to not look like a hypocrite
@stevenborman91104 ай бұрын
Black Ice crashes so often I have given up playing it :(
@nathanbean87634 ай бұрын
I have no idea why your BICE crashes so often, I think I have maybe had one crash ever on BICE, and I have been playing it off and on for years. Probably 300+ hours at least.
@pimentaze28864 ай бұрын
AHAHAHAHA HE IS GOING MAD WITH BLACK ICE
@simeonplayz49144 ай бұрын
Try doing the Yue clique for a truly difficult challenge!
@domschra4 ай бұрын
*INTO THE MAGINOT, THE GERMAN ARMIES MARCH*
@georgigeorgiev48713 ай бұрын
Great! Now please redo Carlist Spain disaster save
@NexusGaming8574 ай бұрын
This video is a good showcase as to why I'll never install BlackIce.
@Bespoketurtle604 ай бұрын
ah yes the most based move to do while playing France bunker France
@complexalp4 ай бұрын
waiter! waiter! more blackice please!
@aze944 ай бұрын
Now play as Nationalist China in this Mod!
@Communist_Burek4 ай бұрын
after a diferent youtuber solve his spain failure he came to black ice france for 2 round