Hoi4 Guide: Tannu Tuva - Siberian Tiger Achievement

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A new achievement guide in HoI4 as the Tannu Tuva, the Siberian Tiger Roars!
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[@JohnSmith-kb4re]

So, the winning strategy as Tannu Tuva is to use Karl Marx's portrait as a catalyst to use communist black magic in order to summon Tuvans from an alternate universe to fight your wars

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Exactly!

[@yeetmcskeet6872]

*communist red magic FTFY

[@MageWarren]

Marxist Machinations Made Mighty Cheap, M4C for short. User: Funny Salchak, President of the Tuvan People's Republic. His actions are those of Justice.

[@fuglbird]

The winning strategy for Bitt3rsteel is always the same. Buy DLCs. Buy Together For Victory so yo can ask for lend lease and buy another one to get more factories at the start. I don't know which one gives you more factories. He's very good at playing that extended version. I guess most KZbinrs ar using all the DLCs. The basic game is completely different but much cheaper and quite more challenging. The only thing I'm missing in the basic game is the possibility to use transport planes to supply the troops - and maybe some more room for political wiggling.

[@TempestLM]

@@fuglbird Who cares about how challenging the game without DLCs? Paradox games aren't compete without them, that's just how it is. You can always pirate them even on steam base game version though

[@BubblesZest]

The amount of HOI4 achievements that require the player to become an illegal arms dealer/buyer continues to surprise me.

[@Bitt3rSteel]

it's just good business

[@maxwhite4177]

Less of an illegal arms dealer and more of a shady accountant cooking their books.

[@krasnamerah1926]

That's why Together for Victory is such an underrated DLC

[@philbaaa1175]

i didnt even know it worked, still made the achievement tho

[@gengarzilla1685]

"I was just a businessman, doing business."

[@germanlad1609]

Man, bittersteel really starting 2022 with the strongest nation in the world: TANNU TUVA

[@Konichu35]

Tannu what?

[@SerbianTaliban]

Tannu what?

[@krasnamerah1926]

Tannu what? I only know Siberia

[@projectpitchfork860]

No, that's Luxembourg.

[@morgww1894]

Nice pfp lol

[@Heating56]

“The Soviets are really helpful, they wanna send us zero convoys.” And to make sure you get the point they sent it to you *4 times*

[@Jebu911]

papa stalin really likes to do that for some reason. Maybe he did that historically.

[@alexandrov1991]

This is the real fun of hoi 4, when you can dominate the world with so much powerful country like Tannu Tuva, Luxemburg or Puerto Rico.

[@Anonymous-_-69]

Dont forget the mod that adds the almighty liechtenstein

[@dunnowhattoputhere7742]

Smh why do people always forget bout Bhutan

[@Anonymous-_-69]

@@dunnowhattoputhere7742 i think you mean the thunder dragon empire?

[@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025]

People Are Forgetting About The Elephant In The Room Or Should I Say... *Elephants* U L M And S U S And Last But Certainly Not Least SEALAND

[@Bigjoebig]

@@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 go back to eu4

[@RoboBobo-to7fz]

Small tip: Improve relationship with Italy. No matter of your ideology, they are always willing to give guns in crazy amount. After 40% world tension improve relationship with Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria. Because of there's army restrictions they have a thousand of guns and free supply, before they actually can spawn troops.

[@octodaddy877]

I remember one time I was playing as Japan and was able to invite Italy into the Co-Prosperity Sphere because they apparently wanted to contain the aggression of one of the random warlords. I guess Mussolini is always just willing to help out.

[@honuitus1839]

@@octodaddy877 You mean help out the oppenents, Italy can do nothing right, I know it from experience.

[@Brex_667]

i'll be facist and short 10000 guns in a time of peace and italy will send a wopping 17

[@ternemoy3689]

Easier method, made at first attempt: 1) Leave Comintern. Improve relations with USSR and ask for military access. 2) Get enough xp to have the +500 weekly manpower idea (Ideological Loyalty) and to make 2 width infantry division. Produce only weapons. 3) Make a TON of divisions and put them in the territory you need to form Siberia. I put them in all the provinces I could, but you need the majority of the territory. 4) Justify on Mongolia. USSR Joins. You have the territory now. 5) Click on decision. Profit. Cheesy and easy.

[@Dhjaru]

Basically tried this but soviets never left all vps. And soviets didnt join the defensive call of mongolia.

[@DarkAngel-vz3zx]

did it mostly that way.. worked quite ok. so super trick :) just important to sourround those victory points that soviets still garrisson

[@hzcyd101]

Bitter does not do order 66. But yeah, it works.

[@ternemoy3689]

@@hzcyd101 Oh, I understand. Makes sense.

[@icyblackout]

Order 66

[@DanielStaniforth]

One thing I did with my spare IC was building up railways in western Russia, so that the Germans had an easier time when it was their turn to invade.

[@inconspicuoususer6908]

Don’t you build up in eastern Russia instead

[@DanielStaniforth]

@@inconspicuoususer6908 Your army won't oversupply your rail network, the Germans still have a few bottlenecks you can preemptively fix to make the war easier for them - and by extension, you.

[@aspielm759]

Certainly a vaild Strat! Logistics get underestimated way to much.

[@NotBamOrBing]

Devilish

[@sethyboy0]

I saw in a TommyK video that the wiki recommended a strat for one of the achievements that involved turning off historical focuses but then putting specific countries on historical. It lets you have most of the predictability of historical while potentially removing specific problem countries like Germany. IDK about you but I suspect there’s more nonsense we can do with that.

[@krasnamerah1926]

It's great for helping other countries form a nation too. Like Siam forms Rattanakosin, El Salvador forms Central America, Latvia forms the Baltic Union, and German Reich going black. I think the last one should've been allowed for AI Germany in Historical On because H-man wanted it anyway.....

[@sethyboy0]

I just realized one thing that this might be useful for: non-historical might give a chance for Japan to not fight the US which means they probably wouldn’t join the allies. I’ll have to test that for an axis-focused game.

[@bostinobaddog2040]

@@sethyboy0 another thing that sucks about japan is I was playing fascist France but with historical focuses on. I joined the axis and was balling out. Japan randomly declared war in me (assuming bc they normally demand the provinces by siam), but jt really fucked me up bc I'm still new and wasn't expecting it

[@sethyboy0]

@@bostinobaddog2040 here’s a similar noob trap so you don’t have to learn the hard way: If Britain isn’t at war with Japan they will eventually take a focus that gives them a war goal. Don’t puppet Japan unless you’re in the allies or else Britain will declare on you.

[@silosneeded]

Ideological Loyalty is so good that I think I'm comfortable enough to start Paraguay world conquest.

[@barondracniil6061]

"To ask for something, you need to have it researched." Tannu Tuva: Hey Russia, that one, the one that goes pew pew, I want one.

[@tobinrose2330]

Finally the hardest legit achievement ever!

[@JackoBanon1]

There is a guide on steam which makes this achievement a no-brainer. You basically have to defend 3 provinces (level 7 bunkers) once Barbarossa starts. This way the Soviets will endlessly attack you and die by millions while the Germans have an easy time to crush them. When the war is over you will have enough war score to take the states that are necessary to form Siberia. It was really easy to do I myself was surprised.

[@aircoolguy5218]

@@JackoBanon1 really? Nice

[@JackoBanon1]

@@aircoolguy5218 Yeah, I did it in the first try thanks to the guide.

[@ussom1377]

@@JackoBanon1 actually there is an even easier way, strat bombers.

[@emin166]

@@JackoBanon1 Gonna try

[@SasafrasYT]

25:48 you have a frontline with an inactive offensive line and as such you allies will hold off on attacks until you activate it. this is demonstrated by how in the following clip you have the attack order activated and the soviets are doing an offensive of their own

[@CerisVG]

Hey Bitter, this was my last achievement to get and you made it super easy and fun ! Thanks a million for all the guides over the years you’ve been amazing ! Keep up all the good work man, I’ll still watch future guides just for you !

[@cosafai7946]

I've just got this achievement, super super easy with your guide: It's my first comment on your channel, but I saw every guide you've published, I've learned so much thank to you! Keep up with your great work!

[@hatless_spider]

Getting a shoutout from Bitt3rsteel on my birthday...feelsgoodman

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Happy birthday! May the beard prosper!

[@gocool_2.0]

Happy birthday dude. A big fan of your videos

[@hatless_spider]

Thanks guys, excellent birthday already even if I am at work 😃

[@akisa7865]

Happy birthday random person I don't know!

[@germaniumge7768]

this was my first achievement of the DLC im almost done just a couple of soviet ones Also this strat is the same one all the way back from Taureor playing Tanna Tuva

[@bubbelgum2556]

nice guide. took me 3 trys but eventually everything worked out verry smooth thx

[@TheEGrievous]

Great video! I got It using your guide, thanks!

[@QingChina1]

*Behold!* *The great and glorious Tannu Tuvan empire*

[@erwinheinrichstromer1156]

Tannu what?

[@Daniel-is9sh]

Absolutely cracking video! I had tried this for a laugh myself but quickly got stumped by manpower issues. Now I've seen this, it's time for another go.

[@spyyz0537]

Amazing guide, got it first try, thank you

[@bon_jo]

*laughs at how comically hard the achievement is just by the lenght of the video*

[@TheOlafSebastian]

Ha this one I got before your video came out which makes me happy. Good job on the Great Game.

[@KIKO00752]

I just came back from work and boom video from my favourite youtuber

[@skmd-420]

finally, I was waiting fir this because i had no idea how to do this

[@tortorsk3416]

Love this types of videos!

[@Bitt3rSteel]

More to come!

[@starlightglimmer3260]

Just complited this alchiement thank you bittersteel ambushing ussr was major so huge

[@broodinggull3468]

Didn't watch the video yet, but just wanted to say this was one of the first achievements that I did since the DLC and I didn't use a guide, and never had more than 8k manpower at any given time LOL. Love your videos, please keep them up!

[@dominikvalkai5698]

How u did it?

[@broodinggull3468]

@@dominikvalkai5698 I stayed communist, used the Karl Marx portrait for the manpower, and joined Japan. I played ahistorical, so the Soviet Civil War happened which dissolved the Comintern meaning I got Mongolia for free. I used their industry to make nothing but guns and tac Bombers to erase their supply taking Siberia.

[@wh6057]

Thanks for the guide!!!!!!

[@Jaspaer]

I love the fact that you like "good looking railways" more than random ones. I do totally the same. I love projecting the railroads xD

[@salvaremihi1556]

Nice video keep up to good work

[@qualivar1079]

I think this start is simply not usable anymore(since by blood alone). I mean the soviets just puppeted sinkiang in my run.

[@twingo440]

I played around a bit... if you go for mountenier at the start and ideological loyalty as soon as possible (after justififying go for the chief of army with +10% division speed) you will end up with 5 divisions. After that rush the vps (the AI beat me to one ...) and do some damage after that (to boost the warscore). I ended up with the 4 provinces in the south of sinkiang as my puppet (here are the resources and the manpower). UDSSR puppeted 1 province and liberated the other one... I will retry it! Another idea: save 50 army xp and go for flexible organisation (+5% division speed) insteat of ideological loyalty + extensive conscription - but i do not know if you will end up with 5 divisions...

[@jonathanarnfeltramstrom8022]

Nice video, keep the formables coming :D (would love to see you form Transcaucasia if possible)

[@krasnamerah1926]

Hi again, man. Nice to seeing you after the holidays. About that, i concur Mountainous Republic would be a painful, but exciting ride.

[@jonathanarnfeltramstrom8022]

@@krasnamerah1926 It sure would, there are quite a few minors to occupy for that. Also there aren't any really strong countries that can form it, but I mean it's not that different from Idel-Ural which Hovelax formed some time ago.

[@XmXStuka2]

Finally long waited!

[@marioanddj]

thank you bro ive tried doing this like 5 times

[@bbilly-vj9sk]

GG on the tournament and always family first

[@heksen800]

HIJ HEEFT HET GEDAAN HOOR! Letsgo, you are my favourite HOI4 KZbinr

[@Alexei1727]

Be careful to not turn the siberian tiger into an economic tiger.

[@GrosseSose]

Like that little crack at "axis access" ^^

[@urtwietii]

Can you do so some more NSB information videos. Your supply video was amazing! I would love to see a tank designer video done by you along with the attack trains and other unit additions. The tech tree changed so much with all the new modules etc, like fllamethrowers. Not to mention the landing barges etc. Perhaps a doctrine update too? You get the point... An updated shop designer would be cool too.

[@crazypancakes7781]

Tried this a couple of times on my own (Before seeing this video). I didn’t realize the Soviet A.I. won’t annex any Chinese states, so I did some paratrooper cheesing and avoided calling them and Mongolia into my war with Sinkiang. It was quite the headache, and my progress was extremely mediocre. Needless to say, I didn’t come relatively close to actually getting the achievement. Really appreciate the guide; definitely going to be putting it to use in the near future.

[@salxrn]

Man don't you just love starting off with two factories and 127 manpower

[@sircasscade6000]

I've tried this 4 times!!! The first time I wasn't able to get enough war score when invading the soviet Union and germany took everything. The second time I did really well until I ran out of manpower and the front line stalled for me and germany, with the soviet Union at 99% toward capitulation, then D-day happened and everything went worse from there. The third time most of my divisions got encircled in China but I still got a decent puppet, but for some reason they weren't giving me factories, meaning I couldn't face the Soviets as I wasn't prepared. The last time, the Soviets cut off japan in China, but didn't give them military access, meaning that the front stalled and the war still wasn't over when the axis invaded the Soviets. I am getting frustrated with this achievement, but I still want to see it to the end. This video is still a life saver though, even if I can't pull it off effectively. Edit: I finally managed to get the territory I needed to form siberia along with the rest shown in the video, despite me losing all my manpower the second I flipped ideology.

[@aigarskauls9200]

Thanks forgot about lendleasee since :D So at time of attacking soviets i had 180k guns... 2k support and 2.2k cars.... man it was nice. Thanks for video since i was originaly waiting when pdx will do some tech tree.

[@hello_im_tomas8089]

oh, dude i just did this achievment yesterday after long struggle. if i knew that i would wait for the video:(

[@amvsenpai272]

... it doesnt work for me when i killed sinkiang the soviets took everything

[@mikser4044]

In my game, I had to wait till 1948 to capitulate soviets, and allies did d-day like 12 times (counted) and every time germans crushed d-day. Last d-day (beggining of 1948) had 200 divs and germans countered it in 3 months Edit: I just was doing endsieg and waiting, i did 2m casulties to soviets, 4 % participation

[@dalesio02]

I finally did it, took me fricking 5 tries but it has been done!

[@Hadam11]

"I have to do everything myself" hoi4 in a nutshell

[@detroitdave9512]

Bitter for future reference, you wanna prioritize the territories of Guangxi Clique (and Sichuan) when feeding your chinese puppet in the peace deal . All that steel and tungsten (and mp) is juicy af, plus I would assume they have decent building slots.

[@koviar]

I already watched the video of the guy doing it first. You need amazing stamina to even think about doing a Tanna Tuva run, let alone forming Siberia with it.

[@krasnamerah1926]

Not gonna lie, i'm taking a break from HoI4 after getting this achievement. Took 5 days to finally did it and boy, i'm tired.

[@elbirri]

now thx to you i have my 100% again :)

[@Chad_Maximus]

Strong start to 2022

[@Frogbootzz]

Can you please do a tutorial for the current version of Hoi4

[@Samcf9]

Oh most powerful overlord Tannu Tuva, have mercy

[@KNtinos7]

Ah yes the mighty Armor Expert of Tannu Tuva the undeniable greatest tank power in ww2

[@sandwitchman8021]

Could do like a small guide for key binds so like how to make it so the other units can support a battle that other units are fighting

[@nahnohacefaltaqueleasesto4363]

I can´t even beat poland´s AI as germany and this guy can annex the entire ussr with tannu tuva.

[@babadufutur9112]

Tannu What? Lol

[@Idki5170]

51:12 "Oh Oh Liberia 😭" 💀🙏

[@eleanorgreywolfe5142]

In the grand scheme of things, you now have cores on a sparsely populated frozen hellscape.

[@derps8690]

Great video, Bitt3r! I was wondering if maybe perhaps you could do a re-vamped "The People Have Stood Up!" achievement, as the last one doesn't really appear to work anymore. From what I've gathered on the forums and Reddit, supply has become much more of a pain in the region, and because the ai's aggressiveness has been roided to say the least, most are in agreement that it's almost virtually impossible to play as Communist China... I was thinking if maybe you could disprove that claim? Seems like it'd be a fun new challenge. Keep up the great work!

[@niklasjo1292]

I did manage to do that achievement with the old guide but you have to do some adjustments yourself while following the guide. The main thing i remember was putting a supply hub and using the 300% construction speed and managed to time it basically just when the Japanese attacked up in the north, then just let them grind themselves down on my supplied lines until i could push back and it was a cakewalk after.

[@krasnamerah1926]

@@niklasjo1292 agree. Use that once the top industry queue has 15 civs working on it to maximise the potential. I took down Shanxi, Xibei San Ma, and Sinkiang to ramp up my industry and army. From start of the game, i'm building a railway network from Yan'an to Shanxi border so that i can quickly connect to Taiyuan. Same with Xibei San Ma, to the border, continue to Lanzhou, then to the Sinkiang border, and a offshoot to Golmud. Focus-wise, Central Secretriat, then quickly down to Yan'an Base to wargoal against neighboring warlords, then Government of National Defense.

[@krasnamerah1926]

@@niklasjo1292 let China and Japan duke it out for a bit. Built a supply network in middle of Suiyuan state (Shanxi's northernmost state) with the help of that decision, then a railway network connecting it to Yan'an. That way, you can have your army defending against Japanese onslaught without worrying about supply. You can then push from your border to Mengkukuo and Manchukuo, occupying them for yourself.

[@wheat8553]

Bold move to make the people Stalin disappeared reappear just to go into your army

[@anonemoose7777]

When Stalin said he was sending them to Siberia I didn't think he meant it like that....

[@franzferdinand1393]

Hey man how did you acquire your editing software? I’ve been trying to get one

[@clownshow_5727]

“Oh no! Liberia!” Is a phrase I’ve never heard before

[@Trawk101]

So I noticed that paradox went and expanded on the terrain mechanics would you still suggest the 14/4 setup

[@mathaeneus_recs7903]

Interesting play, I don't even have the guts to try this achievement. BTW, Sinkian is pronounced as shin - jiang using english phonetics. K has more of a J/G sound when used in Chinese pronunciation.

[@mazda9588]

id love to see a siam guide whenever you can or want to do it

[@krasnamerah1926]

Turn Fascist, join Axis, kill Vichy and annex Indochina, form Rattanakosin, GG EZ.

[@iloveallah5960]

Giving leand lease is better than training units

[@hzcyd101]

So many RNG on this run though. 1. Xibei San Ma joins CUF as Bitter mentioned. One less of the two puppet is a lot on your manpower. 2. Naval invasion: it is not guaranteed Japan or USSR would go for naval immediately and Japan could take Qingdao very early. It would led to Japan took a lot of land and affect war score massively. Better place I found (twice) is near Fuzhou or Xiamen where less coast guard is present. But still, no guarantee. If you didn't grab enough war score and build a strong puppet, Japan is likely (no hard data, just a feeling) to justify on your Chinese puppet very early. See point 4 below. I'm also surprised to see Japan took mid-western China for themselves in Bitter's run, my experience they always puppet warlords. 3. A later Soviet declare Finland is RNG unless war with China could finish very early. All 3 times I tried Soviet started winter war late 39' historically and Finland joined Japan and got took out at the end altogether. 4. Most annoyingly!! Japan WILL justify on your Chinese puppet at a random time. At least the 3 times I tried, they always do. Seems regardless whether you are in Axis or Commintern, or whether they are at war with the Allies, or whether you join Axis offense or justify USSR by yourself. It will totally mess up your ongoing offense as Manchukuo is very very close to the Siberian railway. One tile cut, whole front starves. Only way to go seems to be pushing very hard and finish USSR quickly. Little tips too, cut through Mongolia and trap 5-10 divisions would cripple the Siberian army group, then just push push push before Japan's inevitable meddling.

[@PeakCaveman]

Found myself stucked when papa Stalin don't want to lend me any convoy, and though Hirohito is willing to help, no convoy actually received for unknown reason, thus naval invasion never happened

[@spyyz0537]

same

[@lennart6111]

fuck yeah just came home from skiing perfect timing

[@ThiagoXIII]

Good morning boys! Starting my day with this video. 😎🤝

[@MegaAtlas101]

I like that the Chief of Army is just called Konstantinov. No first name. It's like this guy forgot to fill in the form when they applied for the job and no one ever noticed lol

[@MC-nv4bo]

The leader of Tannu Tuva sure is ambitious

[@noldo3837]

I don't know if it is because of some update, but Soviets never gave me anything in Land Lease, although they had +100 on me.

[@joegrcz7151]

There's this little exploit with planes when you are really desperate for manpower. Where if you can deploy air Wings no matter if you have reserve manpower or not and when you disband them you get the manpower from it even tho you didn't put any into it.

[@AyaanGaming2211]

Luxembourg: Finally a worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary

Wow juat wow

[@tobinrose2330]

Literally insane

[@BunnyboyCarrot]

Instead of going for war economy first you can also do free trade for more output, research and construction.

[@craniusdominus8234]

Well, at least Soviet supply lines aren't taking some kind of weird '2nd Pacific Squadron' route around the Cape of Africa.

[@boyankarshakov2576]

here i am tryna figure out how to do operation barbarossa as germany and my dude is winning as tannu tuva

[@yoranvangils9903]

Bruh just got the achievement without watching the video. Im still gonna watch it anyway :)

[@Felix-dv9wn]

They ship supply from leningrad because they got higher railway level there

[@Flow86767]

5:04 Xibei San Ma is the new Belgium with how many days it takes to justify a war goal!

[@Daniel-rh7kh]

The madlad did it, he finally lost his sanity

[@agentalf7961]

not sure this is possible with the new peace mechanics in by blood alone. Does anyone know any other strategies?

[@Moomoo254]

43:40 Yes, you’re right, Mongolia DOES have more victory points now! Your resident Mongolia player has come to tell you they have added more states in Mongolia since NSB dropped.

[@projectpitchfork860]

Yeah, for some reason the game draws all supply and trading lines from and to a single port for each nation, which doesn't make any sense.

[@hanspangan2436]

So this is why the Soviets want to annex Tannu Tuva

[@bad2603]

good vid 👍

[@pasanaator9874]

Best achivement

[@latehipster9229]

Tannu Tuva: I think I will cause problems on purpose

[@Grokhnar]

I did it, thanks to you but... germany just did not wanted to conquer Leningrad. It was a pain in the neck. Just conquer the far east and from there ALL the way to Ural and beyond. Sometimes the AI just want to troll you.

[@travissteffel7431]

It seems like in most of your videos the worst case scenario happens alot, is it possible to see a run that went to plan?

[@Bitt3rSteel]

If i keep restarting untill we get a perfect outcome, it's not much of a guide is it? Because a guide that only works in perfect conditions is kinda shit

[@rokmun680]

The Supreme Siberian Cossack Host

[@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944]

Finally. Tannu Tuva will rise!

[@DarkAngel-vz3zx]

Love your videos :) As there was no video about this here yet, i made the challenge with the following strategy (mix of abuse military access and steal mapower from puppets :) 1) Justify on Siankiang with first possible PP 2) Justify on Xibei San Ma with next pp availabe 3) declare and win war against both as soon as possible, let the Soviets do the job, they dont want that land currently 4) use the Puppets to get troops and manpower out (boosted maybe, but not essentially with the Army Trait "Foreign Support" (Karl Marx Portrait), what you need 35 Army XP for, that you get via counsellors for military 5) Pump out cavalry with just 1 horse 6) Also a full 24 army with 12 width infantry 7) Leave comintern, but have military access with them 8) Put horses everywhere in the regions you will need for the focus where is low support, esp. north east Siberia 9) Put the infantry in and around the Victory Points you need for the achievement and some to Mongolian Border east of Tanna Tuwa and some for defense of Tanna tuwa itselt 10) in Spring 1941 justify on mongolia (takes half a year cerca) 11) When soviet union is too busy with german mustache man Barbarossa declare war on Mongolia and let them call Soviets in 12) with the infantry take the sourounded victory points where Soviets left garrison despite Barbarossa 13) as soon as possible click forming siberia (With that strategy most likely Soviets will crush you asap, but it worked well they didnt before you make the achievement ^^

[@thelunchking1467]

Tommy kay's nightmare