Dr Anthony Turton - Zuma-inspired 2021 Looter’s War mere ‘taster’ of MK’s plans

Dr Anthony Turton, a 12th generation South African polymath with experience inside SA’s Security Forces, Academia, Water and business, shares lessons from the July 2021 Looter’s War in KZN. The way he sees it, that may have been a mere curtain raiser for what is planned by Jacob Zuma and his MK party. Turton reckons the proposed ANC/DA/IFP government of national unity will have its hands full dealing with what’s coming - but says Zulu Royalty and the private sector, which played a decisive role in quelling the July 2021 unrest, could be a new government’s most powerful ally. He spoke to BizNews editor Alec Hogg.
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[@theoferreira4132]

The people of all races that want to see South Africa succeed again will save this country.

[@nicopheiffer9793]

We are banking on it .

[@karlvanrooyen7402]

Unfortunately the masses are totally oblivious of reality. They will follow the piper who blows the tunes of false promises.

[@gstar3569]

@@karlvanrooyen7402more than false promises , dangerous propaganda. We are up against communism!

[@benjaminlabuschagne9101]

From your lips to the Almightys Ear's

[@gerhardbotha7336]

Well, last time, citizens here in Vereeniging and Vanderbijlpark met the wannabe looters and stopped them in their tracks. The SAPS was nowhere. It was community from all races that stood in the streets. This time people are forewarned

[@christinemeyer7163]

We are for sure at a turning point in our country's history --shortly we will start seeing which direction we will go. I came to the conclusion that we must accept that we are from Africa--we will live parallel with each other following our own culture and language.As long as we accept that we are different and not trying to merge us into one kind of person, we can embrace the diversity of this lovely country

[@corneliacoetz243]

...SOUTH AFRICA ...

[@alettacronje7247]

Very well said.

[@karldrogo9765]

Yeah no one is trying to merge us but like in America you can be a patriot and live harmoniously...maybe America is a bad example

[@user-vv4fb6tx5v]

Axactly on point

[@robertvandervelde60]

I wonder where the million rounds of ammo stolen from Dbn harbour went to...........

[@seamus9750]

The MK and EFF remind me off the AWB in the old days...look what happened to them and their membership

[@spacemuis]

They AWB, like the BLF....went UNDERGROUND....they still there just waiting....

[@Hannodb1961]

​@@spacemuisThey're going to wait for a looooooong time.

[@cjtannerza]

and the verkrampte Cosatu and SACP . They have played their hand and failed

[@gstar3569]

Exactly the same. They are Verwoeds dream. Just be aware they use racial scars to push their communist goals. They WANT the economy to fail so their confused and angry supporters can start the “revolution “. Rioting and chaos is exactly what the ANC did during the Peoples War in the 90s where 20 000 black South Africans died. That is what we will see mark my words. It’s a tinder box and many have been convinced apartheid is coming back. It’s dangerous

[@katenene435]

Fill us in. What happened to their membership?

[@errolG68]

What a great analysis covering so many questions we all have answered so intelligently by such a clever person, I’m going to listen to it again. Thank You

[@user-wo7fe7bd9r]

People from kzn don’t learn. Many are out of work but they still following 82 year old pensioner who is trying by all means to gather money for his young children who he produced in his old age. The lawyers are at work.

[@Slayer-kx5fz]

If you are wholly ignorant of the real politics in this country, please don't talk for us.

[@user-wo7fe7bd9r]

@@Slayer-kx5fz I don’t even understand what you are trying to say . Dance to his tune and not long you are going to regret

[@bhekisibiya917]

In fact it is you who don't learn because you continue to speak as if you know even if you don't know. You should be saying that to the ANC for its failure to govern the country. And they solving their failure by delivering power back where got it from when we defeated racist apartheid.

[@Slayer-kx5fz]

@user-wo7fe7bd9r. Of course you think you know better. I'm sure you see your thinking as what is best, but I can assure the majority of SAs do not. I know you probably fall into the camp of people saying SAs gave 60% of the vote to ANC & DA. But that is the incorrect way of looking at the result. The real result was that almost 80% of the population voted against the DA and its policies. The other parties are closer to ANC in political ideology. That's more than 2/3 - majority. MK is merely a vehicle to draw a line in the sand between competing ideologies within the ANC. Which, with this GNU, will guarantee a collapse of the ANC. The support they lose will coalesce into MK, EFF, and maybe a few to PA and ATM. After that, you will understand. And I've left a lot out.

[@user-wo7fe7bd9r]

@@Slayer-kx5fz keep on dreaming 🛌

[@Angela-pj9ed]

Zuma has mislead the blacks of kzn they hav not learned from the past from the looting that was lost and suffering, Zuma has greed he for himself he should be jailed for all his crimes

[@katenene435]

Do you mind sharing how did he do that?

[@saamstaan6540]

The money lost and suffering from DA/anc lockdowns was and is still way way worse.

[@peterbrigden2124]

@@saamstaan6540 Show me where the DA has caused any of this, you fool?😈😈😭😭🥱🥱🥱🥱

[@saamstaan6540]

@peterbrigden2124 they were absolutely in favor of lockdowns,they did nothing to protect citizens from being locked down.Those lockdowns caused thousands of people their jobs and 1000's of businesses had to close down.........or have you already forgotten.....

[@LafamiliaSwag]

Show me how the DA has contributed to the liberation of non-whites in this country? Their main objective is to get their hands on the cookie jar so they can steal our resources and manipulate the currency and say it is growing whilst the poor are getting poor and rich white people get richer. That's the whole objective of the DA.

[@benjaminlabuschagne9101]

Fantastic guy & he is spot on .... without doubt !!!

[@maxwolfcraft9573]

And how many instigators have been charged?

[@mburumbaappolus6728]

Greedy lawyers have hoodwinked JZ. Poor old 82 yr old man thinking the "Stalingrad Strategy" would work every time and greedy lawyers egging him on at every turn.

[@garethbarry3825]

Well, i would argue that his Stalingrad defense has been pretty successful, and has shown serious weaknesses of our legal system

[@AndrewMcFarlane_1]

Did it not enter the realm of possibility that Zuma is taking a cut?

[@ianthomas7819]

It's not only Jacob Zuma's lawyers. Most of them are like Hyena's they are greedy and heartless. I have been going thru a case for 6 years, continual postponements, and withdrawals for no reason, then demanding payments for very little work done.

[@mike2900]

@@garethbarry3825 our legal & judiciary system need more clout and motivation to see these legal tactics and end it - it (Stalingrad defense) essentially should fall under 'defeating the ends of justice'

[@hermansplombaard9089]

Egos at war!

[@ThembaTsela]

BEE as it stands, must go.

[@merlebouchr616]

What's the pillars of BEE 😂 as a blessed person

[@mitchelldenysschen3224]

Good luck with that 😂

[@johngrebnebeil4311]

Greed is still the main driver

[@katenene435]

That's not true and you know it. It is his love for umuntu. Yourselves and Ramaphosa your clone are the ones driven by greed.

[@Andrewdavey-oo4wj]

Open your eyes.

[@user-vb3mk5ni6w]

Don't underestimate Zuma. LOOK what happened at Elections. He definitely has something up his sleeve.

[@scott701230]

Swart gevaar!

[@robsandham1335]

As a South African my thoughts today: Assumption 1: We face the risk of a short period of intense Violence, Unrest, Looting, Murder, and consequently heightened Racism driven by the extremes (MKK/EFF) Assumption 2: Most normal (non-political) people are not in favour of this destabilizing Period and realize and this is destructive to the common man Assumption 3: The middle of society aspire to live our lives in peace and harmony and are keen to support each other as best we can within our means and see each of us grow and flourish My Hope: The Rule of law endures and will bring to book any person or Organization who usurps the National Good and who contravenes our Laws and Constitution without fear, prejudice or delay Aspiration: Government serves the People. Good Governance uplifts everyone. No one is left behind. From my heart: -We are good people, lets stay together. -We should not be distracted from our task by the problems of the World at Large - these are not priorities as we struggle to survive and thrive -We should acknowledge that we have urgent basic needs to be met amongst our people that need to be attended to as our Priority and get on with improving this - now! -The past does not predict the future -We need time

[@millerwtf]

No not "swart gevaar" but Zuma gevaar !!! We are facing worse violence than 2021 if the GNU is made up of ANC/DA/IFP .

[@brianbosman6034]

Its not that complex. This country is (should be) governed according to our constitution. The very same constitution that was accepted and respected in 1994 with the implementation of "democracy " Any individual or party trying to usurp the system should be held accountable. It is a blatant act of treason and should be punished accordingly. This country belongs to all who live in it and should be entitled to protection (amongst other basic rights). threats or nuances of violence by certain "terror" groups/ parties should not be tolerated.

[@howardsmith1685]

yes your thoughts are "ideal" however you yourself clearly state and i quote----"This country is (should be) governed according to our constitution." and again "This country belongs to all who live in it and should be entitled to protection (amongst other basic rights). threats or nuances of violence by certain "terror" groups/ parties should not be tolerated."---- unfortunately the reality is nothing has happened regarding these transgressions and nothing will ever happen instead it will be swept under the carpet SO YES IT IS VERY VERY COMPLEX AND REAL.

[@carlgevers2557]

Es, and i notice someone from MK on the radio referred to going back to the Commander in Chief. Thats 2 putatively 'Democratic' political parties organised on military lines. Hmm. Warlords & a Libya scenario. Containers of Guns & ammunition stolen from the docks. And re a race schism 'White Monopoly Capital' from the PR agency was the real genesis of it.

[@daves7003]

law in South Africa is more like a guideline. It's only a law if it's enforced. When it comes to the ANC / GUPTA's / Zuma / Cadres etc. The "law" is never applied. If there are no consequences for their actions, why should they stop looting and bleeding the country dry?

[@tertiasmith6253]

It's so heart-warming to have seen that the people of this country are still in charge and will stand together against the hyenas. 2021 Should be remembered when they try to divide us.

[@nevillemontgomery7318]

BIZ NEWS ….. Fantastic Journalism and content ….. The voice of reason I turn to for balanced reporting on key issues in a very chaotic , loud, and ideological driven media landscape all around the world.

[@marietjiehildebrandt1324]

Wat n gemors. Great picture you paint peeling the vrot onion Anthony

[@23blackswan23]

All laws passed by government in the last year should be rescinded as we can now clearly see that there will be a huge split and the cANCer have lost 70 seats in Parliament

[@theresasmuts9896]

...the taxi industry must start paying taxes-PERIOD...perhaps it would serve to curb their hubris and their employment of illegal criminals...

[@petabrown6937]

This is BRILLIANT Anthony. I hope every South African gets to watching this...

[@desstanbridge8283]

Words like enemy of the state and white monopoly, hateful speach should not be tolerated by the news be it TV or rhetoric by those parties. It should be banned and those reporter's sowing this inflammatory nonsense for newsworthiness is the enemy of the people. Great interview!!

[@Intothelight1981]

The people are mute and for their muteness, going forward, they can expect more what they are currently getting!! Wake up South Africans.

[@user-nw6gh7em5m]

Baboons always fight for a tree... Zuma is the same.....

[@MK-gn1nz]

No post 1994 party should have armed wing. MK should have been disbanded after 1994.

[@joannebottcher9779]

They joined SANDF. My husband trained with them

[@MK-gn1nz]

@@joannebottcher9779 only some

[@petrosE75]

Considering the coups in the Sahel and Russian involvement with the Wagner Group, it might not be inconceivable that they have operatives in SA through Zuma.

[@joannebottcher9779]

Zuma has been cozying up with the Russians and Belarusians.

[@joecruiser]

Never underestimate the splinter anc evil.

[@cccmmm1234]

The MK party is not really the MK armed wing, but they are an ANC faction. ANC has always been factionalised even back in the 1960s. Now under Ramaphosa's weak leadership the factions have splintered.

[@arnoldmeiring7710]

Jungle rule number one = there are no rules

[@gbone7581]

rule no. 2 might is right?

[@stefniehatzimichael209]

Just remember Alec it's not 'the big boss' up there😢 It's the God, Creater, The King of Kings and many more beautiful names...... And HE is in Control even if everything on earth seems crazy 😢 It will all change one day, HIS timing❤ Thankyou for your reporting Greetings from Gauteng

[@derrickvanzyl6819]

Rubbish. He does not exist. It is up to us to make the difference for the good.

[@mike2900]

Great interview and covers some very important points of interest. Our police and National defense force need an overhaul and regrouping to let these destabilizing entities know that they will be dealt with. A question I've been asking for a while is also brought up - why a political party is allowed to form an armed military wing i.e. MK. Surely that should not be allowed. Politicians requiring private military are always dictators, and this to me is what zuma/doo doo & malema/fraud shivambu are aiming for..

[@SApilot11123]

We remain a nation that’s always 5mins to midnight

[@peterbrigden2124]

He was just testing the water to see how far he could go? Now he is here with the MK thugs 😭😭😈😈

[@horse.395]

We've said that for years and were called rasist.🆘🔜

[@bertramfuscher]

What ever is said and written about Jacob Zuma it should be obvious that he has been playing the Citizens , Politicians , The Judiciary and the Opposition Parties as well as the Parent Body of the A.,N.C like a tired catfish on the end of a line since he first appeared on the scene. Since his Jollification in Parliament and at the Zondo Commission he's been laughing to the bank with the Nkandla debacle . His various and ongoing court cases . He's playing of the Cadres placed at his discretion at various S.O.E.s He has proved on every occasion his ability to adroitly keep like a hunted fox one step ahead of the chasing pact. Is he a loner amongst Alibaba's thieves or has he a better schooled political or criminal mind. Will we ever know the real Zuma or will he be a casual of History.

[@Paul-vd1ws]

Why are these coalition talks not transparent..we the voters demand to know how are our votes being manipulated

[@saamstaan6540]

They don't care about anything else but your little cross,haven't you learned anything? 😂😂

[@joannebottcher9779]

It's delicate. Leave them to speak. We will know soon enough.

[@saamstaan6540]

@@joannebottcher9779 where did you lose your backbone?🤣🤣🤣

[@firstcomment749]

Transparency is a doubled edged sword. It can get efforts sabotaged or it can drum up confidence as the proccess ensues. Political parties will gain or pay for their choice + competence in forthcoming elections. What will happen now with the court case at ICJ, with Pandor out of the loop + with the anc siding with the Da? Brics has a vested interest in the outcome + stability of its allies. They usually do their homework - did they see all of it coming + how will they react?

[@pamknoll7383]

The PEOPLE were in control, everyone worked together all races all creeds all ages TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE !!!!

[@marcuskelly5768]

All that counts is the Col Saunders and Mercedes-Benz and where it's going to come from.

[@peterbrigden2124]

Zuma and the MK have never ever had a plan? You have to have a brain to do that 😈😈🥱🥱😭😭😭

[@katenene435]

Takes one to see one 😊

[@njsnjs9369]

​@@katenene435 I would say take a big one to see a small one

[@Greg16350]

That's why their love of power can always be exploited by outside opportunists like the Guptas and now Nathi nhleko.

[@juniormolefe3046]

Warlord used to bring about peace ✌ in kzn😂what an oxymoron

[@gstar3569]

I would not want to be in KZN right now

[@gstar3569]

That will be ground zero

[@ecomandurban7183]

Excellent well presented content 😊😊😊

[@johnbarrett7064]

A gnu is a wildebeest Poem by pg woodhouse:- When cares attack And life seems black How sweet it is to pot a yack And puncture hares And grizly bears But in my animals who s who No name stands higher than the gnu And each new gnu That comes in view Receives my prompt attention

[@davidblyth5495]

Excellent analogy

[@peterwomersley]

tragically Dr Turton has seen the writing on the wall and is taking his own advice to share his skill selsewhere I think I am right in saying that I have followed him for years as has others A brilliant mind and scientific pio9neer int he field of water studies

[@stefwessels955]

As sad as it is, I had a good laugh when you mentioned the disorganized defence force and police. 😂

[@spacemuis]

Pg 313 par 2....Boodskapper van God, Adriaan Snyman, 2004 edition....Project, Bloodbath in KZN between MK and ANC

[@valetaleigh8758]

Great interview. I'd like to know your opinion on the fact that Zuma signed the Brics agreement and Putin is chairman of Brics. Russia and China do not recognise Cyril as the legitimate president of South Africa. We are first and foremost a Brics country, we are in alignment with their policies. How will this affect any coalition that is agreed on?

[@larasilson6040]

If inauguaration of President takes place on Wednesday 19th will this be yet another public holiday?

[@alettacronje7247]

Very very interesting podcast if I may called it.

[@crearekrelnein2601]

“The Big Boss” Show respect dude, !

[@freddycook7490]

Finally. Someone with the Cahunas to call them scavengers.

[@hdscha4710]

You mean cojones, maybe?

[@scott701230]

With unemployment going towards 65% and going towards 80%, with an improvised population with no buying power, what rational investor would wanna in the crisis. With a constitution against the poor, the path to civil war look set.

[@boykie24]

The most on point comment here!

[@cccmmm1234]

I wish you were wrong.

[@thedinozone5890]

The constitution is pro poor. Somalia has no constitution and see how that is working out for them.

[@cobusventer5911]

Wow!

[@naphakademagadla2478]

I pray the MK will not fight so we can all move on with our lives

[@seraajregal4663]

Same for all western economies

[@fredperry523]

If anyone needs to understand how africa works ( or more precisely - doesn't ) then one needs to read this extract : Morality and Abstract Thinking. How Africans may differ from Westerners. by Gedaliah Braun.

[@berylalanthwaite5325]

The vigilantes will definitely be a problem. If there is no clear leader, no voice of authority, a volatile situation can quickly become chaos.

[@cccmmm1234]

The state is too weak, so it is the vigilante groups that are going to bring stability.

[@user-je4bx2ed2x]

Very interesting but horrible audio, difficult to follow. Get a headset

[@AdmiringFarmhouse-yj5lz]

Very bad echo sound

[@andrevanrooyen7789]

Please make a prediction who will be the "enemy that does not exist" for the MK party.

[@mariusroux632]

Good metaphor, but Pity sound quality

[@billyb7469]

We are the maggots

[@micheleaubourg5963]

😅 True!

[@mauromatos3124]

DA going into bed with the ANC will be bad for the ANC and catastrophic for the DA. To cede the role of opposition to the MK and EFF will only make them formidable. A very limited confidence and supply aggrement to keep this ANC in charge till Zuma departs to onether world and politics can reset is the most stable option.

[@carlruppert7324]

I agree with you 100% 👍🏻

[@darryljansen7364]

MK answer.. Then we need to keep them front and center in the light oversight monitor report

[@juniormolefe3046]

SA in a political civil war😂status qou-constitutional forces vs RET forces😂

[@simondavis7579]

Was there one looter? Looters' War then ....

[@joyholtzhausen8976]

How many noticed?

[@ThembaTsela]

Intelligence will be neutral, and debrief Zuma

[@colinbawden4222]

Cyril has been given another chance - but this time we watching your every move. Hope you get your sh*t together this time

[@SibongileMapeka]

But mk what are your plans we voted.😊

[@michaelvanzyl8749]

Ironic the powers of the state to keep a country stable against all forces has become the force respocible fir its instability The state is the problem from this crissis will emerge a new and more permanet solution How great the time will be for us who knows

[@samuelrobert7016]

The feeding troph !!

[@HannesDelport]

If south africa s leaders have any brains they should have the sandf on readiness for what might be coming. Not like last time where the sandf was deployed only after 3 day's.????????

[@gr66nman]

We are living in the Jungle.

[@soidog659]

Re-instate the Commando system?

[@attievanwyk3561]

Bring on Jacob, his MK and their "easily indoctrinated" followers. "Ve haf vays to deel wis zem YA"!

[@ThembaTsela]

Intelligence is sympathetic to Zuma faction.

[@Greg16350]

Not anymore since Ramaphosa reshuffled the cabinet and brought security under the presidency.

[@ThembaTsela]

@@Greg16350 It really don't matter where they seat political, as intelligence gathering is at General Staff, & below

[@Mavrick36]

I don’t know. A whole lot of talking without saying anything

[@spacemuis]

Pg 313 par 2....Messenger of God, Siener van Rensburg, Adriaan Snyman, 2004 edituon.....Future project...BLOODBATH IN KZN BETWEEN ANC AND MK.....seems right on the money by this Boer Prophet, DIE SIENER...

[@madeleinedonaldson4422]

The reason many voted for MK is they remembered life was better 10 to 15 years ago.But the Whole World has undergone a lot since then and CR,s leadership has been an accelerated " Boil the Frog" with constant new communist laws being imposed on us NHI, Bela Bill, and more which we are all opposed to.Zuma just milked the economy😅

[@emmo2850]

Sound so bad can’t hear. Byeeeee

[@samchallis448]

Despite best intentions this guy is still a dinosaur of the apartheid era. He was an intelligence officer and is still living in a 1994 state of mind

[@mariorobertovonpalace2729]

The authorities never found all those stolen bullets that went missing during the 2021 looting & riots. Maybe Anthony can tell us ....

[@TonaldDrump-fs2cx]

Zuma is more dangerous than Malema ! Zuma is a Godfather at the head of a mafia structure that serves his greed & ego. His cadres are all involved at various levels of crime from the trucking mafia to bribes, municipal contracts ,mining this guy gets his pound of flesh from everything. His footprint was all over the KZN riots that started off with protests for him then devolved into mayhem ,plunder , theft , looting & finally attacks on Indians. The anc tried to downplay the impact internationally & only when the destruction to PPL & businesses was calculated could the anc see what carnage was committed against innocent people. The best thing that CUDA happened to south Africa was the last election that's forced the anc into a coalition,now more checks & balances will be put in place & hopefully corrupt individuals within the anc will be exposed & prosecuted.

[@dylansmith0393]

Thank you Alec as usual interesting. Just a point of order the militia groups formed during the riots were civil society. They were armed with anything from a 50cal to a bat and they were neighbours from suburbs that stood next to each other shitting themselves. what is often misunderstood when speaking to people who were not in the province is that is was the entire province, every town was under threat, every spaza shop and so on. The fact is, to maneuver and incite that many people in a matter of three days took a considerable amount of planning and organization. there have been significant reports regarding the 24 hours prior to the riots regarding strategic acquisitions by an unknown 3rd force. So here is some food for thought is MK using their appeals against the newly elected legislature, government and IEC as a smokescreen for a reason to go wild. It is flimsy but hallmark Zuma. Finally the looters were made up mostly of politically vulnerable disenfranchised people that had been whipped up over a considerable amount of time, this may well indicate that it was a black swan event.

[@shortMario]

Everything I see Dr Turton he fills me with sutch unease . Never mind the topic. I don't know what it is about him that disturbs me so mutch

[@Adlukhethe]

Something Nazi?

[@fredperry523]

Could it be that he may be speaking the uncomfortable truth ?

[@shortMario]

@fredperry523 no the truth is the truth. Its not the content of his words It's something on a spiritual level. His analysis is more or less in a stream of probability that reflects the reality. I have seen him speak about his life and his time in defence force. It has the same general feeling. Thus is a man that understands the shadows and it has somehow effected the energy that radiates from him. I have nothing against him. I am mearly commenting on the emotional impact that he makes.

[@shortMario]

@majubaginindza7776 I don't think it's that. I don't mind a fascist mindset I also by the way do not get that from him. Its the burden of a long shadow that radiates from him.. This man is not a ideolouge or political activist in in the sense of any real or imagined ideological stream. I am commenting on the impact his life has had on his psychology and how it manifests via his energy.

[@jovanimnisi2701]

Here goes the propaganda lead by fear😓. Please air the interviews had with him

[@spacemuis]

ROGER TEALE visits SA 1994....prophesied D U R B A N....

[@viwembelekane4900]

You realize that this actually makes Zuma stronger. Sooo much free airtime! All zulu people will hear is that you're calling them animals. Get out of the bubble and immerse yourself in the politics of Zulu people.

[@fionam.1784]

I totally agree. These are out of date old metaphors and are totally misunderstood by certain people.

[@joannebottcher9779]

I can see that this metaphor may be misunderstood. I think we need to try to understand each others' meanings and motives, as it's not just Zulus being referred to, but all political parties are a type of animal in the story.

[@Greg16350]

All politicians who are corrupt are the animals eating. The maggots are the ones who still want to eat the last bit still leftover. He was not referring to Zulus only.

[@noelenebuck6098]

DA is also not the party.

[@hermansplombaard9089]

#KlinkSoosEkDink #LuisterLeerDinkDoen

[@nielwilliams4687]

Let Zuma have the Kingdom of KZN, and let us have the Republic of the Western Cape.

[@saamstaan6540]

😂😂😂😂😂with the DA as your masters?

[@nielwilliams4687]

@@saamstaan6540 Your understanding of democracy is very limited. Government can only be your "masters" in a socialist/communist state (EFF/MK) the DA has never been communist, Marxist or socialist.

[@saamstaan6540]

@nielwilliams4687 so our "democratic" government did not force us to lockdown???did you lock yourself down??stop spewing nonsense please.

[@Greg16350]

​@@saamstaan6540 No masters in the Western Cape. When the ANC couldn't deliver they were voted out. If the DA doesn't deliver the same would happen to them. They must serve the people not master like a chief.

[@anitaswart.]

My daughter lives in Harburg KZN. The looting was close to them. The taxis helped and then the German sugarcane farmers who are always on guard. No police. My son inlaw got luchimia and they didn't have money for private medical. It was barbaric what the doctors and nurses did to him, there was never blood for transfusions, waiting for hours. They weren't aloud to question the doctors then they were shouted at. Racism to the nth degree. They didn't put him in ICU, he had bruises and he died an awful death. I live in the UK, because my British born husband needed further treatment for hips. The NHS made a mess of his hips and ended up bedbound for 10 years and dying after covert jabs. We got benefits, but when he died, I got nothing. I packed up and was going to SA to my daughter. Stay in Harburg for 3 months and was horrified of how backward it was. I really started worrying and my daughter said that she couldn't take me to the hospital where her husband died. I had a Polish friend collecting the post and he let me know that I qualified for housing and tax benefits. I was so sad that it was better for me to go back to the UK than live in SA. My daughter is selling the house in Harburg and going back to Johannesburg and I know people don't like Johannesburg, but at least she could get a job there. We always lived in Johannesburg and the only reason my children moved to Harburg, was to live without a bond. I'm so sad when I think of my country and that I had to come back, but you need money for medical help In S, although I'm scared of the NHS it is a mess. English doctors are a culture shock for a South African, but if you get things free they are not worth much. So many Brits are going private and that is expensive on another scale. 73 and looking after myself and have to be thankful for the benefits. I am really torn, but can't expect my daughter to look after me.

[@mosaimdakane6576]

Bad echo

[@paulroos8517]

A large portion of KZN should be separated from the R.S.A. and made into a Zulu monarchy. For a democracy to succeed, there must be a generally educated citizenry. When a country's citizenry can't think critically, a monarchy is more of a stable government for that country. The U.K. and other European monarchies are essentially democratic governments since those monarchies are more of a symbolic head of state. When monarchies function as symbolic heads of state, there could be a democratic government, because the monarchy functions as an overseer of that parliament. Why does a monarchy work? A monarchy is generally accepted by people who love ceremonies and traditions. However, some obligations rest on a monarchy. They must be a family that from childhood days are educated to serve the nation.

[@lionheart1330]

Zuma knows where all the graves are. Just like in the case of Barack Obama. US Space Force knows all.

[@stephenpalos3240]

Turton knows enough to be harmful, but not enough to be helpful...

[@katenene435]

In the face of adversity, a new political party MK emerged, not from the traditional avenues of power, but from the vibrant and dynamic world of social media. Despite being just five months old, this party managed to shake the very foundations of our political landscape, all thanks to the power of TikTok. Nonke niyatatazela manje. Look at ourselves talking with pride while knowing very well that MK has shown you dust.

[@joannebottcher9779]

I think it'll shrink from here on. Zuma promised victory. He got 14%

[@katenene435]

@joannebottcher9779 that's not true. IEC, DA and the Anc rigged the votes, we all see that. Enjoy it while it last. Uyeza u2026.

[@Greg16350]

Dust? The people who voted for Zuma forget too quickly. Now they will learn again.

[@Otherlevel51]

Honestly this was very predictable the minute the Zuma was no longer president. The smart thing to do was to make sure he goes off in to retirement and leave him alone. Instead people decide to humiliate him and try to arrest him. You dont arrest people like zuma. Because it will cause war.

[@user-cp3be3jv4x]

Don't blame Zuma blame your law because is controlled by minority Zuma did not tell people to looting but the anger of the south African because the see justice of South Africa working for some people Deer beer didn't attend that zondo commission he refused because they controlled the law no one take him to jail Zuma because the law is using for him they jail without any trials is fear?

[@lucypretorius972]

Wahahahahaha

[@cccmmm1234]

Cowardly capital? How smug of you. Maybe prudent capital. Capital can be invested anywhere. Why would someone want to invest in an unstable country with broken infrastructure and very few skilled people?

[@gilbertgavin3014]

What do you really mean Hyenas ,is this not being arrogant because of skin colour but you guys say rainbow nation