BJJ talk! Why I don't roll with women

[@dcox5555]

So you don’t roll into a lawsuit

[@bez1196]

Mental strength vs. Biology. Expend and deplete your willpower on some BS that you could simply have avoided, mate. Sounds like a plan.

[@mxxkxxg]

@lolcano234 I agree. I can understand from a legal standpoint. If a sexual thought pops in your head in the moment just move on and keep rolling. It is what it is. We have a couple women in our gym that compete a lot. If men didn’t roll with them they wouldn’t improve as quickly as they do. Just because I roll with a woman in my gym doesn’t mean I’m going to have an affair with her.

[@elshanks1578]

@@mxxkxxg the reason zahabi doesn’t roll with women is because he’s religious btw

[@TheDreamDetective888]

🤣🤣

[@bez1196]

I go to the gym to focus on training and to "solve mental puzzles", why add an extra dimension of stress unnecessarily? Do you realize that there's a reason why most companies have dress codes? But yeah, it sounds like you're the first human to transcend your own biology. Most of us aren't on your level yet. Even Jesus and Buddha wouldn't be caught up rolling with women, but some new age male feminist like yourself obviously has more wisdom than both of them.

[@robbybee70]

no one asks females their reason if they don't want to roll with a guy so I mean it isn't that hard to give the same respect to males

[@GraveDigger388]

A simple point that somehow gets overlooked by everyone...

[@robbybee70]

@@GraveDigger388 it's due to societal double standards far more of which benefit women then men (in the west)

[@slowlysmiling12]

@@robbybee70 women frequently have to say no because they can see there could be real risk of injury rolling with a dude ...doesn't sound like to much of a benefit eh

[@robbybee70]

@@slowlysmiling12 there are thousands of women who roll tho (maybe millions I can't be sure) and many times they just say no out of hand because they don't want to. far too often I have seen it be that they are trying to get rounds with the black belts rather then 'waste time' with lower belts. sometimes it will have to do with safety as well but that really has nothing to do with my point

[@RehsNahk]

Apparently no doesn’t mean no when it comes to men.

[@jessegriffin4939]

"You're ugly enough to roll with" is the compliment of the year

[@leshaunmoreno2483]

"You're ugly enough to roll with" 🤣🤣🤣 am dead

[@SPONGEY7244]

Bro that was hilarious

[@mikebarnea4789]

@@kYA00h you realize its not about the womans thoughts, or the mans in your case, but his own and the struggle to be pure in thought... right?

[@mikebarnea4789]

@@kYA00h depends who I'm rolling with

[@mikebarnea4789]

@@kYA00h you clearly dont understand the struggle being discussed and I don't have enough desire to take the time to explain it.

[@CoachZahabi]

not what I meant lol, it came out wrong lol. I can't pick and choose which women to roll with.

[@Mjhavok]

100% GSP rolls with women. Haha! GSP crushing relationships.

[@benparkhurst7642]

Gsp is a heartbreaker! 😂😂

[@benparkhurst7642]

@Artyom Volchenkov EXACTLY 😂😂 He's gonna "push pace" and "take the woman where he want her to go!"

[@AkamapD]

But they never impressed him with their perfomance

[@IkesPimpHand]

@@AkamapD women love men who can go 5 rounds without finishing 😂😂

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

Did you just insinuate GSP is a home wrecker

[@hashimtahir9415]

Uncle Chael taught us the wisest lesson.....we can’t let them get close 😤

[@ahmadfrhan5265]

yep

[@UltimatePiccolo]

what now?

[@IkesPimpHand]

I liked your comment three times

[@hashimtahir9415]

@@IkesPimpHand 😂😂🤝

[@askarkhan7739]

dead😁😁😁

[@Natalia_85]

As a woman, I appreciate you and your honesty.

[@AJScraps]

*“I NeVEr HaVE a DiRtY ThOuGhT”* Absolute lies 😂

[@damabjjfloramax9498]

man , happen few time they on the top trying to kimura kind of things , and it almost become face sitting but we have to stay professional

[@felixrolls6016]

Yeah but I still dont get why that´s supposed to be a problem? I get "dirty thoughts" no matter who I roll with. That still doesnt mean I turn into an animal that cant control itself...

[@earthphoenix7068]

@OnePlus 7T A holes a hole

[@quickstep2408]

@@earthphoenix7068 we're all pink on the inside bruh

[@lowlowseesee]

@@felixrolls6016 exactly my take on it. because i dont have toxic masculinity or religious stupidity I can be an adult. Ive rolled with women i have a crush on even and for a second I might feel cozy with their thighs wrapped around my head lol. but the fucking world isnt going to end and I can snap out of it. I want them to learn bjj so they can avoid assaults and we are not doing them any good in life if we refuse to roll with them

[@hobosage3477]

Why do I sense a bit of sarcasm in the coaches voice when he called the other dudes angelic xD

[@ynnz]

You would appreciate the sarcasm. Unless your one of them non binary people or perhaps gay 🤔

[@nerdSlayerstudioss]

@@ynnz You mean you realized he was being biased and forgot he was making a "fair" argument for a second? :)

[@20FreeWill]

@lolcano234 Martial arts are not designed around gay people . A gay dude can roll until he gets an erection then.he will.be in trouble. Also what you are ignoring is and failing to apply your own logic to is - straight guys dont want to roll with gay dudes anyway for the most part and gay dudes should know that. I find it amazing that all the critics are totally ignoring the sexual nature of humans just as an excuse to.be offended. Ignorance in abundance

[@I.M2008]

@lolcano234 Nobody is forcing the gay guy to roll with men. He can roll with women who accept him or with men who accept. Just as the MeToo movement lays down the boundaries for themselves, everyone should lay down their own boundaries. A man can refuse to give consent to anyone touching his body just as a woman has the right to refuse to give consent to whoever she doesn't want touching her body.

[@cypresspuz]

@lolcano234 Dude STFU, martial arts that involve sparring are not fit for gay people, period.

[@Vashthestampede967]

" i had to leave my last gym. I had an affair with the instructor" Goes to new gym right up to the instructor and tell him this after wanting to roll with him.......I don't think she thought this through.

[@danwatts2096]

Don't worry it probably didn't happen

[@MrBojangles901]

@@danwatts2096 😂

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

@@danwatts2096 did happen. Can confirm. I was the mat

[@shaolinabbott9161]

I don't think the story Firas told is true. It stinks of something he made up to justify the awkwardness around women that his religion left him with.

[@Vashthestampede967]

@@shaolinabbott9161 eh idk if it did or didnt, but hey i can only hope to laugh a little and enjoy the day.

[@beyonderaatrox1670]

Lesson - Roll with whoever you feel comfortable with! Also avoid extreme long distance running, go for sprints!

[@spitfire841]

@lolcano234 then you wont learn

[@spitfire841]

@lolcano234 well your point is invalid. Theres tons of guys to learn from but not rolling with anyone better than you is a diffrent thing

[@spitfire841]

@lolcano234 you try so hard to be smart dont you

[@HighTech636]

@lolcano234 Perhaps your point is not invalid but it is a form of fallacious reasoning. Being uncomfortable with rolling with women because of a potential sexual attraction and refusing to do so is in fact different than being uncomfortable with rolling with someone because they are simply better at jiu jitsu than you. Obviously, the latter could directly limit your development. As for your argument about learning more rolling with women: I have absolutely no idea why you would believe a female might be the "best person" to learn from. There are plenty of people to learn from and omitting women from that list is very unlikely to hurt your game.

[@spitfire841]

@lolcano234 Maybe you dont agree with it but its got nothing to do with being weak and you know it

[@Vinnyygo]

Can we talk for a second about how it takes a lot of courage to admit and be open about this? For a man to say that you can't roll with women because you're self aware enough to recognize that part of you has impure intentions is not easy, and the more we can open this conversation, the easier it is for males to open up about other uncomfortable topics on the subject that we tend to just hold in, which is unhealthy.

[@manny2493]

Well said

[@bez1196]

We can't even state purely biological facts anymore. It's ridiculous.

[@aBigBadWolf]

Impure intentions? What a poor level of self control you have. Not rolling with women, because they are women, is sexist. And trust me, I'm usually calling out people for overreacting but here you put your female students at a clear disadvantage. Imagine you were a teacher in school: sorry girl, I cannot have you in class because of my "impure intensions". Why does her education has to suffer because of what you think. This is really bad.

[@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511]

i roll with girls BECAUSE it's hot

[@lexandersantana8089]

“I might cheat on my wife if I roll with a girl” lmao

[@thedetective8150]

Huge amounts of respect to you and you are a class act. You are a very wise man and BJJ instructor. My married Brazilian BJJ instructor had several affairs with his female students. I left that gym after I confirmed it with him and he said he was getting a divorce. I don't roll with women as I respect my wife and its against my Christian principles.

[@annagokieli1497]

Amen 🙏

[@kevindefayk3618]

How do you convey this to other pupils? I am thinking of joining a new gym and would appreciate any advice in regards to this topic.

[@PM-hh9ur]

My gym is full of Christians. I also am Christian and roll with whoever is in front of me because Christianity teaches to respect others and warns against sexualizing them.

[@thedetective8150]

@@PM-hh9ur If you are a Christian man, you should NOT be rolling with females. Talk to your pastor.

[@PM-hh9ur]

@@thedetective8150 The idea that women have cooties is not a Christian idea.

[@joshuapillar]

I concur. I don't roll with women also out of respect to my wife who doesn't feel comfortable. I do find it odd though that some women are offended by my choice, but I have yet to meet a man who is offended by women who do not roll with men. Not saying they don't exist, just never met one.

[@MaadLuck]

yeah its hillarious as they would call men sexist for that but when they do it and have their classes where no men can go its fine? fuck that

[@nikitaw1982]

if they are offended definitely shouldn't i'm guessing.

[@ddjansatsu7326]

Spotted lot of angelic men in the comments 😂😂😂

[@prandz420]

Or maybe there are people out there who actually get pussy and don’t turn into a horny caveman whenever they are in close proximity to a woman

[@prandz420]

OnePlus 7T stop projecting your insecurity and inability to get pussy onto others.

[@hemi5.7awdpursuit5]

I can’t I’ll be naturally sniffing her fragrance hair oil and perfume no lie 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇

[@hemi5.7awdpursuit5]

@@prandz420 facts it’s been 5 years for me any touch and I’ll go 💦💦💦🍆🍆🍆🌭🌭🌭🌭

[@user-nu3sd7zb2j]

@@hemi5.7awdpursuit5 Simp

[@meowmeowone8479]

The Grand Mufti of MMA has so very eloquently given us a Fatwa on how to avoid the #MeTooPlata lol.

[@jabarigray]

LMAO @ #MeTooPlata 😂👍😁

[@kaneaftopouagapas3798]

😂😂😂😂 yooo!!!!

[@hrvojevukelic6417]

Auahahahah

[@christopherchin1038]

How does this not have more likes xD # metooplata

[@meowmeowone8479]

@@christopherchin1038 Maybe in a couple years when the move becomes infamous lol.

[@williammonk1020]

People who get offended when someone doesn't want to roll with women might want to ask themselves why there are separate changing rooms and showers. Personally, I'm okay with rolling with women, but at my old gym we used to all change together too and no one seemed to care either way. The main thing I don't like about rolling with women is that I can't push on my opponent's chest or use their buttcrack for control.

[@hannibalwantsahuggrande3433]

Ok the same change room with women is just weird man. BJJ is such borderline cult sometimes...

[@williammonk1020]

@@hannibalwantsahuggrande3433 We actually just didn't have any changing rooms so that's probably the main reason.

[@williammonk1020]

@Zoot jitsu is what it is bro

[@Orangutan1000]

I think it’s just unfair at a level. If I’m white belt though idk I’m gonna push on your chest whether it’s soft with female parts or not. It’s all respect. I bet some women respect that your not going easy on them.

[@adamzoubi96]

The bittcrack

[@josemartin1727]

"These men are angelic" lmao

[@HamzaSalemTV]

Or gay's

[@zenmartialartist701]

@OnePlus 7T bro I don't think you know what a simp is.

[@dees.daniel7]

I don’t let thoughts control me and I do not judge myself on my thoughts. I will roll with anyone. If an inappropriate thought comes into my mind, it is just that, a thought. My actions and conduct are far more important.

[@erikbudrow1255]

Yeah but...a lie can become the truth real quick

[@josephfaught1993]

I appreciate you bringing this topic up, Firas, as it can be taboo in today's culture. I roll with women without sexual thoughts, but I don't think it's because of 'purity'. I just view it as a good opportunity to roll with someone closer to my size who doesn't use strength. Everyone is free to train with only whom they feel comfortable, though. Respect.

[@buridah328]

Exactly. Everyone’s free to do what makes them comfortable. Respect and enjoy bjj. Life’s too short

[@Sk9999-jr1gx]

lol I’m a Muslim man. Although I don’t roll with women now due to my religion. I’m with you on this. I rolled with women in the past without any thoughts. Idk what this guy is talking about speaking for Muslim men like that and generalising.

[@chriswheeler155]

Let them hate. It’s your gym. You aren’t being malicious, society makes it what it is so avoiding it altogether is not a bad prerogative.

[@fearlessartist3457]

She was hitting on you coach

[@funincluded]

I don’t feel sexual at all when I roll with women. However, I feel like some women roll too hard as if they are trying to compete with me, when I am rolling softly with them... they’ll dig their elbow into my eye and fight like it’s life or death. I feel like I roll gently for the most part, but especially so with women. So there’s no winning- if I beat them, so what it’s a girl. If she subs me- I lost to a girl!

[@zenmartialartist701]

@@gagakputih3136 in what way is he trying to be an angel, is it really that hard to not have sexual thoughts when rolling with women? I'm genuinely asking because most of my main rolling partners are men

[@mihajlomihajlo74]

@@zenmartialartist701 depends how attractive you are tbh 😂

[@kirito3082]

Egos should not be brought to the mat.

[@Sk9999-jr1gx]

Depends on how messed up your mind is. I never had impure thoughts and I’m also a Muslim man. I don’t roll with them now because my religion doesn’t allow me to.

[@tordalkalcatorda3062]

"Don't take long distance running too far" seems like a contradiction

[@CorbinNelsonMMA]

Medium distance running GOAT workout

[@bigsmall2842]

@@CorbinNelsonMMA full speed mile hits hard

[@aburayyaanabuakilah4482]

I was severely criticized for not wanting to roll with women at a particular gym here in the US. The main instructor went so far as to start bullying me. I ended up leaving that gym due to the constant negative attention I received.

[@johanneskrv]

He did the right thing. No place in the western world for someone who cannot treat women as their equal.

[@yellowandy]

@@johanneskrv Totally agree, here in America women are considered equal. Pull that shit in my gym and I would bully you until you left as well.

[@aburayyaanabuakilah4482]

@@yellowandy Post the name of your school in order for self respecting Americans can avoid it.

[@yellowandy]

@@aburayyaanabuakilah4482 You are a Muslim first and American second, hence your confusion. I'm actually doing you a favor of pointing out your hypocrisy. Perhaps there is still a chance you can change your antiquated view points and join us in the 21st century. I hope you do.

[@aburayyaanabuakilah4482]

@@yellowandy Maybe you should move to a country where your views are in line with the constitution. Thank you for sharing.

[@changiiu8103]

As a guy, I only roll with women, because I’m gay.

[@pumpkinman5954]

As a bisexual, I only roll with ugly people

[@RVBOY2]

That woman is what they call a "Club wrecker"

[@mikegold3130]

When I first started training a 16 yo girl choked me unconscious in front of everyone. I’m a blue belt now and still hear about that story.

[@Slumpthemenace]

Dayum

[@mikegold3130]

@@Slumpthemenace yup. 😂

[@louiemorales3706]

You're a trooper

[@AZK91]

How'd that happen? Lol like damn

[@babarasul680]

People think this doesn't matter... There are 3 BJJ gyms in my city and all of them didn't let me train because of this, despite me explaining that it's out of respect not out of prejudice. I am actually unable to learn BJJ due to an odd form of liberal intolerance.

[@sayan2368]

Those are shitty gyms then brother hope you find another one

[@zubayergillarkyckling7832]

same happened to me. I had to switch to GI to find a club. But it worked out for me and found a better club. Try to find one where there are a lot of muslims

[@legolassonofthranduir33254]

@@zubayergillarkyckling7832 bruh i need help man im 14 and way younger than everyone in my class how do i apporach my head coach i dont want to roll with women

[@legolassonofthranduir33254]

@@sayan2368 can u help me out bro

[@zubayergillarkyckling7832]

@@legolassonofthranduir33254 you can try To call the receptionist or Email the club before you join them

[@mmarioescareno]

When I started jiu jitsu the women I rolled with were so much better at the time that I was just trying survive and not get injured.

[@shaun2513]

Train 1 year powerlifting and do pushups. Then roll with them .

[@PanicGiraffe]

Lmao any time a guy says this I scratch my fuckin head. They can have 10x technique but it doesn't matter. Me big.

[@fredmiami]

I think women should acknowledge the fact that out of respect some men don't roll with women. This is obviously a good thing for society.

[@MaxLohMusic]

With no further strings attached it's a perfectly fine mentality. But not many people would feel comfortable training with a guy who made a video going like "oh these men who roll with women are all ANGELIC what are you CASTRATED?"

[@mikeliterus4611]

We had a big fiasco at our gym because of this. There was a guy and girl rolling and the girl swore up and down the guy touched her in the wrong place, he swore up and down he did not. So from then on out, none of us rolled with girls.

[@quickstep2408]

just takes one time for it to be a thing. bullshit

[@jakekearns8457]

Shit even if he did we're rolling yes I might touch your no no square a couple times its not intentional we're rolling shit happens don't act like I checked your oil or something g

[@Meliaison]

Thats really sad you and your gym would ostracize all women or preclude them from participating in rolling especially when BJJ is already a male-dominated martial art and rolling is such a huge component of it. One bad experience should not make you paint every woman with the same brush. They were probably both right and it was simply unintentional.

[@mpat8462]

@@Meliaison if they were both right then then none of them are right. The girls can still roll they just don’t roll with men, because of this reason. The gyms right, all it takes is one lawsuit, bad comments and next thing you know, they lose all their credibility and business.

[@theycallmeghost2977]

@@Meliaison thank God it's a male dominated sport, would suck to have to switch martial arts

[@desmond3399]

When I first started jiu jitsu I was terrified of rolling with women for two reasons. I didn't want to accidentally hurt them and I was worried I would have those intrusive thoughts. When my coach finally paired me with one I was quickly realized that I had bigger things to worry about when the black belt had me in a triangle that I wasn't prepared to counteract. To each their own absolutely but I am no longer nervous about it, I try to treat them like any of the guys.

[@manny45629]

Wait until you roll with someone you’re attracted to, do t act like you can roll with any women and be fine. You haven’t experienced enough.

[@desmond3399]

@@manny45629 I have never rolled with a jiu jitsu girl that wasn't hot.

[@jimmybaldwin737]

@@desmond3399 yeah well said. I love women. I’m always chatting them up. So trust. Me I’m probably the worst example. But when it comes to rolling with a women. I can honestly say. Those thought don’t pop in my head at all. I’m to tired and exhausted where I’ve been rolling with others to even think about that. I just get on with it. I don’t think that at all. But if I do ever start pitching a tent while rolling. I’ll let you guys know 😂😂

[@raiklaub975]

each his own decision. You are fine and another man who doesn't want to roll with women is fine too. That should even be a question

[@masrr3678]

​@@jimmybaldwin737 you and Desmond are both these "angels" the coach was talking about in the video then 🤣 personally I don't believe either of you but to each their own

[@ray5549]

My first BJJ gym I trained at closed because one of our coaches had an affair with one of the students, best training partners I ever had and I miss that place

[@nicocontreras5366]

That´s pretty common but not due to rolling.

[@clipsfrommovies2527]

HAPPENS 9/10 coaches or men with higher power fucking around with students or even interns, been there for a long time

[@Seneida]

@Ray Why did it close because of that?

[@ray5549]

@@Seneida the coaches had a falling out after that, The head coach was also the owner of the gym and couldn’t run the gym by itself so he closed it

[@KD400_]

​@@Seneida not hard to figure out lol

[@francescomorales7812]

You’re absolutely right coach. You also don’t want to be charged or accused of sexual harassment.

[@mctransportation9831]

There is a hierarchy at a mma or bjj gym. The instructors are at the top of it and women are instinctively attracted to men at the top of the hierarchy. The instructors are only human and when an attractive women is making it known that she's ready as soon as he makes a move, given enough time most will succumb to her womanly charms.

[@jayjones9108]

I got submitted by a woman in my second lesson, very humbling.

[@RealizeBJJLife]

While choking white belts I like whispering "tell me I'm pretty." For some reason, they never seem turned on...

[@outlawfly664]

Maybe because they don't find you attractive?

[@lukelabare6580]

They’re not angelic, they’re lying😂

[@honestabe6841]

Yup!

[@AbdullahAhmad-wk2fs]

or gay

[@kingalias11]

See my comment for an exception to what is...now that ive even given it any thought...because I watched this...probably a pretty accurate generalization.

[@369truth]

Or castrated

[@ifthatthenthis3797]

Or a long distance runner

[@MaxP374]

You spend time with person, you learn about that person.You connect on some level because you are not robot.You find out what is comfortable and what not.You both want to be comf with each other and start to please each other.Little tiny step by step you start to like each other, you are bonding 100% natural.thats how ppl work and become friends or more.The problem is someone will get hurt if you dont have same goal or if someone is married.Thats why we believe in prevention.God told us what not to do, He knows how we roll :)

[@hkmma6543]

Yea god created you to be male and to have sexual desires because of the testorone in your system. It’s literally out of your control to be lustful or want to have sex with women. Why would he create you with such chemicals in your brain yet not want you to have sex? Makes no sense all other male species fuck as much as they want because it’s what evolution programs you to do

[@MaxP374]

@@hkmma6543 Well.. -you need that urge to keep life going and its beautiful when you have wife and take care of her and that beautifull babys. -if everyone goes around and fck as much as the want a lot of viruses would come, nobody will take care of each other and everyone would have kids more than you can handle.emotionaly ppl would be faked.i can write a book about whats wrong with all of that and if you add alkohol in that it is horror.think and controll yourself or be controlled by the things that have power over you cuz you cant controll you :)

[@AdamAlq]

Firas can do what he wishes without having to justify himself. We live in a time where everything is perceived as “offensive” especially when it comes to women, all thanks to these extreme feminists. You often put your hands in certain “areas” of your opponents body during grappling which is inappropriate for a male to do to a female - so I totally agree with Firas personally. Let Firas be and as for the guys and girls that oppose Firas - if you don’t like it, don’t follow him and just get on with your own God damn lives!

[@khabibmma9382]

Underrated comment. Well said dude

[@killagorrila1616]

@lolcano234 he's a grown man and can make whatever choice he wants it's his gym not ours

[@killagorrila1616]

@lolcano234 it doesn't lessen anything that's your opinion

[@killagorrila1616]

@lolcano234 you act like his gym is the only gym in canada and that he's the only trainer at his gym they don't loose any experience if they train with someone at the gym that will

[@killagorrila1616]

@lolcano234 you point makes little sense at all one man's choice to roll with women somehow fucks over every women in canada? It's one man compared to the millions in canada if somehow he dictates women's progress in grappling then those women shouldn't be grappling if one dudes choice affects them all

[@DoYouDontYou89]

This reminds me of when people say they don't drink because they fly off the handle and over drink.

[@buridah328]

It’s true. I don’t because I have an addictive personality.

[@Zenitself]

Glad someone made this video

[@khalil.hasiyn]

I've only rolled with girls a handful of times. Besides the sexual aspect, most girls are so small it's weird to roll with them. I can't really work anything because I'm trying not to crush them.

[@RunhdeepS.Sandhu]

naa...small girls with skills can roll with bigger guys ..ive seen it and experienced it..some chick's are strong wrestlers regardless of size.. .to each their own but not rolling with women because their women and one may have an impure thought isn't the best reason imo ...

[@CutThroatCat]

Don't fret about that. We've been smashed by guys most of our adult lives in the bedroom. You're not going to crush us on the mat.

[@AZK91]

@@CutThroatCat what belt are you on?

[@numbnutone]

I think this guy is the most sensible guy involved in MMA

[@MrMojo13ification]

Easily.. He's a genius

[@jinyow5581]

Ever hear of Khabib time ...

[@numbnutone]

@@jinyow5581 yeah he is pretty sensible ,but he did lose the plot after Conor fight

[@jinyow5581]

@@numbnutone True, yet when a Man that respects all others .Is disrespected by disrespecting his Father his Country his beliefs an himself .Even Khabib, is but still a Man .An the Eagle Soared ...

[@jinyow5581]

@@MrMojo13ification Thanks could not of made it without you .😉

[@TheBenHasArrived]

There is a difference between having thoughts and acting on those thoughts. If a man has trouble with acting on certain sexual thougts, or if he wants to avoid the dilemma as a whole, then it's probably a good thing he avoids rolling with women. However, it's very important for women to roll with men. The majority of women practitioners are looking to be able to defend themselves against men. If you don't give them that opportunity, then you might be doing them a disservice if and when the time comes for them to apply their skills in real life.

[@TheBenHasArrived]

To be fair, I'm a single guy and I don't have the problem of having "impure" thoughts towards women who are not my wife

[@yellowandy]

Very well said. Refusing to roll with women is robbing them of the opportunity that they started training for.... to be able to defend themselves against men! I’m married and continue to roll with women and doesn’t bother me a bit, doesn’t bother my wife, and I’m certain the women I roll with think I smell funny, sweat a lot, and the last thing they’re thinking of is me in some kind of sexual way.

[@mr.cowell6025]

Good point

[@KD400_]

That's ur problem u think they can defend themselves against men. They wont be able to. Most men r large maybe untrained but u don't know what they carry or if they have other guys around them

[@TheBenHasArrived]

@@KD400_ you're making a lot of generalizations.

[@bachelorlifestyle2068]

That is the first thing I ask in a gym & I am not even a Muslim. It is just my personal preference. I always say, "I don't want to risk sexual harrasment case." Then the coach will start thinking, then he realizes I am a paying customer & agrees anyway.

[@ButtsandFarts]

Smart man.

[@yadurajdas532]

This guy has so much dignity and and ethic

[@RatedP4P]

I can see where you're coming from and kudos for speak out on the topic. Takes courage to do so knowadays. I will say that it is your responsibility as a coach to train everyone with a different levels of knowledge and understanding of training/fighting. I'm sure many have benefited from rolling with you in the past and learned a lot. How do you bridge that gap for those you chose not to roll with as a coach?

[@NS-uq3pp]

Got respect for you Coach! Takes a man to be open about these things 👍

[@kYA00h]

"takes a man to be open about these things"...🤣🤣🤣🤣 actually being "a Man" is someone who has the balls to admit theyre gay and showing up to an MMA gym...then Crushing People!!! more laughing🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dukej9820]

Look at the statistics of personal trainers who have relationships with their clients.

[@JoeyJ1984]

Look at the statistics of women who've been able to defend themselves and potentially save their lives cause they trained with bigger, stronger men. I bet you could actually find some stats on that.

[@dukej9820]

A survey (I accept its not academically reliable statistics) suggests 1/4 women have had a relationship with their pt. It’s very common.

[@kYA00h]

@@juniorslice9618 lololol

[@kYA00h]

@@JoeyJ1984 sweet response.🤣🤣🤣👍

[@DarkKnight2037]

Bringing up such thjngs isnt the issue. Just let people do what they will ik terms of these things for what reason they have. I personally, dont really care too much, because I know what I am doing. If the woman or man is a good person, they wont do bad, and some of those will avoid any temptation to do bad.

[@iiDefied]

Do one on rolling with people that don't shower.

[@elshanks1578]

@lolcano234 in Islam, it’s said you can’t make physical contact with a woman unless she’s your wife. I don’t get what the problem with this point is?

[@elshanks1578]

@lolcano234 but it’s his gym. Are you gonna try to kick him out of his own gym? And plus God and faith matters more than anything else, even more than martial arts so we put that before anything else. I don’t care if you grapple with woman but people of faith that are also married wouldn’t want a woman have them in full mount.

[@elshanks1578]

@lolcano234 I’m pretty sure he doesn’t care if others in his gym roll with women. He just said it’s his own choice that he doesn’t roll with them. If he said every man in this room can’t roll with a woman then I see your point but he doesn’t. It’s just his personal choices, that is all.

[@elshanks1578]

@lolcano234 and I already did answer but you didn’t read it. I said faith matters more than martial arts. This goes beyond hobbies or passion.

[@elshanks1578]

@lolcano234 first of all, talk without crying. Secondly like I said, when we all die on this earth, nothing else will matter except for how well we followed our faith. You will never understand this concept because you’re an atheist so if you don’t agree with me then what can I do? Go live your life and I will live mine. And there’s nothing wrong with not wanting to roll with women. Women who feel uncomfortable rolling with men are always given the option to instead roll with other women. So I don’t see why when religious people don’t want to roll with women because they are uncomfortable you make a big fuss. Also it’s your coach’s gym yes?? So he can do whatever he wants, so I don’t give a shit if he kicks out people. It’s his gym. Why would I care.

[@pauldarthurs]

I like the honesty here, thanks for sharing Firas. You should be allowed to roll or not roll with whoever you want. That said, from my perspective, it makes sense to be open to rolling with women, because it helps them improve. If nobody wanted to roll with women, it would be more difficult for them to improve.

[@brianwhitmore4678]

Coach Zahabi + an impure thought = 🤯

[@13thera21]

Smart decision Coach Firas, the liberal types might be offended by what you say but I 100% see where you are coming from.

[@seamus4055]

Yep

[@bez1196]

Yeah the liberal crowd are accusing him of sexism and being "too weak". As expected.

[@zodiac154]

I knew there was a good justification for why I hate running

[@Maartun]

Could someone please help me. When I roll with women at my gym, the guys would laugh at me and now I stopped rolling with the women and now they are all mad at me. What I'm I supposed to do cause I don't wanna be a douchebag.

[@bingsoo9559]

I have tons of respect for the coach’s honesty

[@MaxLohMusic]

"I don't roll with women" is honesty. "Guys who roll with women are angelic beings who are perhaps castrated" -- wtf?

[@stevenshar1233]

I understand your point coach but I don't think this is helpful for women in a self defense situation. In a self defense situation, no one is like, "well, you're a women so I won't rob you". How can women effectively practice self defense against half the human population (men), who are just physically stronger and bigger then them? Unless you're used to practicing with people who are big and strong, you're going to be suprise when you have to use BJJ for self defense against a bigger and stronger men.

[@NK-ne9uf]

There are men who will help them, just not him

[@stevenshar1233]

@m ab it's always the individual's choice. If the individual (women) is uncomfortable with wrestling men, than it's their choice and NO ONE should force them to do anything. But I won't be a prude and be like, no, I will not roll, wrestle, or spar with women. Martial arts and self defense is genderless. As a progressive person, I want to end the culture that martial arts is only for men. At the end of the day, it's intention. Why are you there everyday at the gym? Are you there to work? To improve your skills? Training for competition? Or are you just there to dick around and hit on people?

[@robb00]

​​@@stevenshar1233 Double standards are always a problem. A woman can choose whoever want to spar with or avoid people and a man not? What a bullshit is this!! Everyone is free to train who they want with. Period. I don't care at all if a woman is training for self defence. If I feel unconfortable for any reason, I don't train with her.

[@Kawlinz]

I don't know about this view. I'm bisexual - does that mean I can only learn with Gracie jiujitsu online academy?

[@Kiwipai]

According to coach that means you can't differentiate between the sport and sexual activity unless you're some sort of angelically pure being. His mindset is really creepy.

[@marky1846]

only the part that likes boys

[@Kawlinz]

@@Kiwipai it's funny the way he says it, but yeah, also creepy when you think about it

[@benamini817]

This view doesn't apply to me either. I'm straight but my sexual drive isn't intense enough for this to be a problem. I would think also that it would depend on what you're into. If you like spandex and autoerotic asphyxiation then maybe it would be more of a problem lol. In the end though, I don't think this is something that the individual would have much control over. Perhaps it would be creepier is Firas decided to roll with women knowing he had these inclinations. I don't think he's trying to force this perspective on everybody. I think he was just trying to eliminate stigma surrounding who people decide to roll with. He is probably fed up with people taking the moral highroad when it comes to this topic.

[@bryant8647]

thats tuff

[@jackmehoff915]

My whole life is basically an impure thought and I am fine with it.

[@filmnlnja]

simp

[@PoeticSonic]

i love the hypocrisy in some of the comments, you would have said jack*** if it was a woman that said she doesn't feel comfortable rolling with men. you don't need to agree with it or even like it, if you don't like it then just move on. you can't force people to do things and break their own personal principles/ boundaries while maintaining freedom. he didn't sign on a contract that he would roll with women, so him maintaining a principle of not rolling with women is fine. i bet there are many women that don't roll with men not because they think men are stronger or better technically but because they don't feel comfortable being in the positions you are put when you roll and that's perfectly fine.

[@ashleyfrancke]

If women didn’t roll with men, they’d have nobody to train with. Men having these types of views ostracize women within clubs, and is one of the many reasons why female representation in combat sports is so low.

[@amerhst1201]

@@ashleyfrancke doesn't matter he didn't give his consent to any girl to roll with him or is consent only matters when women give it?

[@strokesidedesignsllc4969]

I am super new to BJJ and I find this a good way of thinking that creates a stand of integrity with yourself and the sport.

[@ChefIsaac925]

Completely agree! My wife wouldn’t want me drilling triangle chokes with a pretty lady!!

[@exnihilonihilfit6316]

Insecurity is not a good argument. Get a psychotherapist.

[@yellowandy]

No woman wants anything to do with you bro, surprised you even got married. Are you just so amazing to women you’re worried they would immediately pull your pants down and go down on you? Get real douche...

[@elshanks1578]

@@yellowandy now say that without crying

[@yellowandy]

@@elshanks1578 That’s really the best you can come up with? Good girl... keep trying.

[@ChefIsaac925]

@@yellowandy ya the women obviously can want nothing to do with me, but that doesn’t mean something might get hard and I’ll press against my thigh to clog the carotid artery and get a tap faster

[@ACE_858]

I AGREE, I DON'T EITHER.

[@redditsubcultureking6399]

I stand with you . I don’t like rolling with women because there’s always a “you don’t have to hold back “ emotional 😭 then I go a lil harder and I can tell they want to cry 😂

[@robin212212]

Realistically you can get used to anything after a while. I used to have female roommates in college, and the first few weeks were awkward but after a while, they become like sisters.

[@PaulRamen]

But isn't rolling with your student a good way to assess their progress thought :( ? I feel like they're missing out.

[@kevindefayk3618]

Hello Coach Zahabi, I'm not sure if you read the comments but I would really appreciate some advice with approaching this topic. I have moved and want to get back into training MMA. There is a gym nearby. One of the owners is a female. Due to my religion (Christianity) I cannot train with women. How would you go about dealing with this situation? How would you explain this to them while conveying respect and honour towards women? Thanks in advance

[@CoachZahabi]

I would send them an email explaining myself just like you did here. Most people will be very understanding. By writing an email it will makes things more clear as gyms are not always the place to have a conversation. Hope that helps.

[@kevindefayk3618]

@@CoachZahabi Thank you Mr Zahabi. I am a long time listener and I appreciate your response. Have a nice day.

[@squaredcircle8768]

Angels walking amongst us. 😂😂

[@thedoctorate]

You avoided drama.

[@megacraig97]

Is it really an issue if “impure thoughts” enter your mind though? As long as you don’t act on it I don’t see the problem

[@bez1196]

Unnecessary stress/distraction. If it's avoidable, why even entertain it?

[@skepat9426]

For the same reason that the other instructor slept with her. Nobody can control their emotions perfectly, cuz they are not logical. If you think you can, think about why do you are attracted to females(or whatever) for example it's an innate attraction it has nothing to do with logic. So that one roll might be the reason you end up cheating. Also, it's a plus to avoid people with sick minds :).

[@jawaadshahid]

Impure thoughts lead to acting upon them. Why are you going to make your life more difficult by leaving that door open. It's the wisdom of social interaction, to construct an environment that prevents harm rather than dealing with fixing it.

[@FreekFreeksma]

@@skepat9426 that one roll might be the reason you’re cheating? No bro that’s not how it works. Even if you’re attracted to a woman and married, you have to have some discipline and not just cheat on your wife at every emotional whim

[@mxxkxxg]

@@skepat9426 thoughts and actions are two different things.

[@mannyclav]

Angelic group reporting

[@Kingx90]

If I’m ever paired with a woman I go “fcuk!” In my head. Because every bjj position could be interpreted as sexual and make a woman uncomfortable. Unfortunately as a 135lb male at a gym where most males are 175lbs+ I get paired with females more than others. I’m more focused on not making her uncomfortable than actually learning techniques and training.

[@ghengiskhan9308]

It's just something you both gotta get over.

[@aabdo1770]

​@@ghengiskhan9308 WTF!?

[@ghengiskhan9308]

what do you mean WTF? youre both there to train to get better. Grow up and act like an adult.@@aabdo1770

[@TheTimMarshall]

I never really had a sexual issue, rolling with women. The only issue I ever did have though, almost always, is that they get mad at you if you either: a.) Give them the perception that you’re going easy on them, or - b.) Completely overpowering them. I don’t have an issue rolling with females, or learning from females at all. But, as has been said before, going at it in combat sports with a woman is a lose-lose situation for the man.

[@MontyQueues]

that's why islam is more equal rights, it gives men the right to do the same thing that women do to men islam is truth

[@sbag11]

Way to keep it real, Firas. Outstanding video!!!

[@newbeginnings3859]

I agree… women shouldn’t even fight professionally. They should fight just for self defence skills and they should spar but not fighting professionally. Women are precious and shouldn’t be hurt.

[@xaviergovindan9966]

You're there to learn ...period.

[@ahmedalthlathini7498]

Oh you beautiful angel..

[@xaviergovindan9966]

@Ahmed AlThlathini I'm just highly competitive and I will take all the training time I can seriously.

[@ahmedalthlathini7498]

@@xaviergovindan9966 you wouldn’t enjoy grappling laura sanko? Right 😂

[@Iron-Bridge]

I gotta agree with you, Coach. Everyone should know their limits and boundaries. If they're communicated up front, they should be respected.

[@GirthGod]

I wasn’t comfortable when I first started, simply because I wasn’t confident controlling my weight (250). Now it’s honestly not a big deal at all. I just usually play guard, or focus on different passing I usually don’t try. I can recognize a girl is attractive and not have it ruin my training. I also don’t assume she wants to fuck me either. I’m honestly there to train, I’m not really in that mindset. I’m sure most women feel the same, I can respect anyone’s decision to not roll with anyone but the mocking/patronizing tone is weird on this one coach. And I say that with much respect. Sometimes my classes only have one woman in them. If we all thought like that she wouldn’t be able to train. And everyone at the academy has a right to train.

[@Wenutz]

I think the sarcastic tone was mostly aimed at people who criticise people who criticise his point of view

[@nicorepetto5781]

I couldn't agree more with everything you said. It's also disturbing seeing people defend their reasoning saying 'I just dont want to be tempted to do anything'. It really shouldn't be hard to not sexually harrass someone. What do people even think is going to happen if they roll with someone they think is attractive? That she's gonna get pregnant? I also feel like a coach should train with all his students in order to understand them and help them improve.

[@GirthGod]

@@Wenutz sure. And again I can understand a lot of reasons for not wanting to roll with someone. Risk of injury, hygiene, etc. But the one in video doesn’t hold much merit for me. I’m a young guy, I get what coach is trying to say. But I’m also an adult. I’m not trying to be some “angelic” person because I can recognize I’m at my academy to train, not hunt for pussy. And I know women would benefit more from training with other women. But its not an option for a lot of women who train. We’re teammates. I’ve learned from higher level women.

[@sarahalessa78]

finally someone with some sense and basic manners. it just shows how immature he is and how he excessively objectives women. So much so, that he can't see them as humans, as students, as doughters or mothers that are coming to his classes to train and to learn to defend themselves. He can only see them as possible sexpartners. The moment he touches them the last bit of decency would melt away. What an animal. This attitude is a disgrace. Especially to someone in the position of a teacher.

[@faridfc007]

If you had a super model wrap her legs around your neck, would you still hold the same position?

[@xkidmidnightx]

Can’t wait for the reddit thread crying about this.

[@Shaka_Garami]

Seriously, what is with the BJJ reddit being a hive of social justice cry babies... it’s embarrassing

[@xkidmidnightx]

@@Shaka_Garami it’s because anyone that isn’t far left was banned long ago

[@MaadLuck]

@@xkidmidnightx lolll its like all forums these days and industries

[@alialghamdi7153]

Broooo, please Google "I dont roll with women reddit" and check the posts lmao some of them went as far as making xenophobic remarks. It's not like he's saying women shouldn't do BJJ or they're inferior, but it just makes him uncomfortable. Why is that so triggering.

[@MaadLuck]

@@alialghamdi7153 its absurd, western world is totalitarian as they oppose religious people

[@angelsjoker8190]

Coach, what is your advice for women who train BJJ for self-defense (in particular against male attackers), but they can't experience the strength disparity in training when men wouldn't roll with them¿ How could they prepare¿ I'm not suggesting you have the responsibility to roll with them, I think everybody has the right to refuse to roll with anyone they don't want to roll with, regardless of the reason. But this would be an important question, in particular as BJJ was designed for self-defense.

[@yellowandy]

This is a great question, most women are training BJJ not to hook up with guys on the mat and ruin families but to learn self defense. The great thing about BJJ is it can be pressure tested but how can they the training they need with coaches view points towards women?

[@robb00]

Today BJJ has become more and more a sport and less and less a martial art, like judo. It doesn't make sense any more speaking about self defense today. Women has to train with other women because at competitions they fight each other. Your point is useless.

[@nise63]

If it's a problem for you, then you shouldn't roll with women. However considering you've been in those exact positions with guys thousands of times. Sexuality shouldn't play a roll in that decision. Jiujitsu is a brotherhood and for me women can be brothers too.

[@pootytang2872]

"women can be brothers" the gayest thing ever

[@nise63]

@@pootytang2872 Considering your name, I'm not surprised by the the comment. It's okay though. One day your balls will drop and you'll realize that you don't have to be homophobic to be a man. I'm very much a straight guy, otherwise my comment would be pointless when talking about rolling with women. You don't have to think lewd thoughts about every attractive woman you see. You can respect the art and the gym more then that.

[@hawke123]

@@nise63 Or maybe it's ok for people to choose to not roll with whomever they please.

[@BatGangLK]

waffle

[@wolfman_jagermeistro8445]

@@pootytang2872 lmao fr! Pathetic

[@yadhukrishnan9921]

reasons to not roll with woman : if men dont want to ,thats a reason good enough : lawsuit; if one day a girl filled a case of sexual harrasement stating that the man tried to be harrasive during rolling, that is the end of your fucking reputation and trust. : there are really high level women that can roll with other woman and they can improve. : religion ; leave those guys alone if rolling wit you hurt their sentiments. :i know men who have wives who doesnt like rolling with other women, why make them suffer. : most gentlemen are hammered from childhood not to hurt woman and be gentle with them; let them be old fasioned : some men dont have enough control; just let them be when they accept that fact and are trying to move forward. what we want and we dont want is our fucking choice let men roll with who ever the fuck they wanna roll with..... why is that so hard to understand...

[@Chamasaurus]

so the next question is do you roll with gay guys?

[@rafnaegels8913]

Depends on whether i can defend the take-down

[@nlytend1]

@@rafnaegels8913 lol

[@bez1196]

The scenarios are different. As a heterosexual male I wouldn't even know if the guy I'm rolling is gay unless he told me. The one who has to decide whether he can handle the sexual tensions would be the gay dude since there would be no tension on my end (pause). On the other hand if I'm rolling with an attractive woman I'd have to deal with unwanted sexual tensions when my mind should be on the grappling. I'd be grappling with my own biology as well which adds unnecessary stress.

[@ongobongo8333]

@@bez1196 or you could focus on rolling for a minute and not be immature

[@dynaguy1450]

Gay guys are guys. Tbh rolling with women you have you not use certain parts of the body (near the chest or butt even if you go for an upper c leg take down) the upper c single leg take down gets pretty close to the forbidden area and some might not feel comfortable with that. However, having rolled with gay guys they don't care about any of that they are too busy trying to choke me out lol

[@NoRockinMansLand]

The audacity of her to be offended while she proved why it shouldn't be happening

[@quintosol2006]

I roll with women all the time. Having thoughts is not a crime. You can be respectful and still think what ever you want.

[@moshikobensimon5383]

"When I roll its strictly JJ" Bro! these guys are everywhere. "The angelic group" I'm starting to use that man.

[@maxgoldfield7790]

It's kind of hard to feel sexual attraction when the woman on top of you is trying to tap you out/murder you. Also, men who are that horny are just over-sensitive. It's like they never grew out of being sensitive teenage boys.

[@BigVic13]

Very true. Usually it's not an issue until a super hot girl comes to class. One time this happened in our academy, and our guys could hardly take their eyes off of her to be honest... even the professors. At my previous academy, they would even ask students not to start a relationship with a new girl unless they are serious. I agree with that too because I have seen problems at academies when guys start a relationship with the hot new girl... specially, when it's a coach.

[@FPSCroatia]

Thats why david goggins keep saying stay hard 🤣(joking)

[@danieldelanoche2015]

Nice! 😂

[@Genny2494]

It's not about being holy or whatever it's just about focusing on jiu-jitsu for me. My best training partner is a female black belt she pushes my skills to another level every time we roll

[@Budagrande]

I roll with girls, but I am too much of a beginner to get distracted. I am trying to remember whatever the technique is I need to apply hahaha

[@Carsalesugurlu]

Try the insider

[@zoetekauw9647]

Wow I'm really surprised at this take, coach. I can honestly say that I don't have any sexual thoughts rolling with women. I'm not asexual but I leave that at the door. Doesn't make me "angelic". edit: Just to clarify, given the responses: there are moments, on occasion, where the girl is hot and/or the position suggestive, that trigger a notion of sexuality/eroticism. However, that is a far cry from "an impure thought" as Firas puts it. When these moments occur, I block it out and resume the jiu jitsu. I am not having sexual fantasies on the mat.

[@bez1196]

You must not have attractive women at your gym.

[@dukej9820]

As coach says, we look up to people like you

[@zoetekauw9647]

@Zoot jitsu Notice how you have to push the definition to make your case. The girls in our gym are average, and I roll gi only (got my blue just before covid hit). But besides that, my mind is on jiu jitsu. Unless you're in mount, side control etc. things move fast and you're constantly reacting. How do you even have time for sexual thoughts? It's weird to me that your mind would go there given the preoccupation. There is plenty of time for that stuff outside of actual rolling. In fact, I think people who are besieged by those thoughts must not be around women much outside of bjj.

[@Nykoooo1]

@Zoot jitsu why do you call such thoughts "impure".....maybe that's the problem to begin with.

Sounds like you're a well adapted, grown-up man, unlike Firas who sounds like he's 14.

[@honestlee9921]

Ahaha I'm so glad this clip got saved. I found this part so funny I had to watch it again. Ahahaha nothing but hespect coach

[@T2ManOnTheMoon]

30 angelic naive fake men disliked this video yikes

[@markusbarth1]

If you roll with the other sex or not is a very personal and legitimate decision. You should not roll with a wouman if you think that you cannot resist the temptation to put your hands where they shouldn't be. Female grapplers quickly develop a sense to distinguish if a touch was accidental, required by a technique or intentional and driven by what he calls "impure thoughts". This is good because it removes the discomfort if you accidently happen to touch a "suspicious" body part. However, if you have a problem with getting submitted by a female grappler, do not roll with women because you will apply brute force if necessary which increases the risk of getting injured or to injure your training partner. And at last, you may need to avoid certain techniques depending on each individual. Some women's breasts are more sensible at certain times and it wouldn't be nice to put your shin across them for a knee shield or scissor sweep. More advanced female grapplers are often very technical and rolling with them can be very rewarding. But the most important thing: Do not be offended if your request for a role is turned down by someone of the opposite sex.

[@tokinabo]

if someone doesnt want to go inside an ice cream saloon because afraid of not being able to say no to unhealthy thoughts, that's his/her business. there are levels in such types of control.

[@Kinchwillkill]

As a woman, I think it's totally cool for someone to say they don't want to roll with me. I don't even expect a reason. Maybe it's because I'm a female, maybe it's because I stink, maybe it's because they're scared of me. I don't care. Not my business. I respect their decision and would never take it personally. Hopefully people would have the same respect for me if the roles were reversed.

[@sotiriosnovatsis4529]

I would guess that most men who refuse to roll with you are afraid you'll make them look bad.

[@Kinchwillkill]

@Jon Christopher Gentle sobbing... lol. I thought dudes were sobbing because I was hurting them. Damn.

[@sujitsharma4346]

Lol noone is scared of you sweety

[@KD400_]

Its not because u smell. Its because ur a woman and being that close with a woman makes u think dirty. Those types of encounters lead to sex and everything. And if we r being honest here why r women in a male environment why not just have a female led environment where women can train with each other

[@carrieconner2021]

​@@KD400_you're all over this comment section! We get it, you don't like women.