MG5 1000 km challenge gone wrong

[@nakfan]

Don't worry Bjørn... What ever you decide for safety and to avoid stress is fine. BTW I found this video just as entertaining as a normal 1000 km challlenge. We are so spoiled with all your videos... Relax, enjoy time with wify and Isabel. All the best, Per.

[@ouch1011]

The importance of these videos is partly the time, but also the experience. There are some issues that only show up when stressing the car, and that’s what the 1000km challenge videos show. This car, in its current form, doesn’t work. That probably wouldn’t have shown up in a typical review. You may be able to predict the travel time through your spreadsheet, but that does *not* replace the actual act of driving the vehicle. I know the 1000km challenge videos are time consuming, but I hope you continue to do them. They are far more important than some of the other videos (like noise and acceleration)

[@bjornnyland]

I think you misunderstood. I only bailed out on this car. I am not planning to stop doing 1000 km challenge.

[@OscarWinberg]

Your well-being is more important than 999. Do get some rest! Hopefully Mg watches the video and updates the charging-stuff. 👍

[@happybu]

Hardware is ok, software is too bad. The software development company is not from China.

[@ProPatria1919]

@@happybu where is the software developer from and why can't Chinese develop their own software?

[@happybu]

@@ProPatria1919 it had agreement for long term,can not simply cut off

[@hubcap2k]

MG4 driver here, software is the same shit, car doesn't charge some times, ccs compatibility is bad, lights dont turn off, car won't engage in drive, timed nighttime charging just fails some times... its like being an android early adopter from 2009... ahhhh

[@happybu]

@@hubcap2k Respect! All EV drivers are pioneers! Salute To You! Hopefully soon those software developer will be replaced soon.

[@supamario3055]

29:14 Bjorn telling it how it is. Never change, Bjorn!

[@francescoboselli6033]

29:23 ahahahah what a great metaphor 😂. Anyway I think that you reached your point anyway: as many other told the 1000km is supposed to stress the car and show how it is reliable not just how much time it takes to do 1000km. You did a great job like always and your video was entertaining! I understand that you may have tight schedule for videos because you have to return press-cars and so on, but please don't stress you too much!

[@dellyet]

Hi, could you also test ioniq5/ev6 with updated bms "preheat before charge"?

[@mikashki]

TPMS = tire pressure monitoring system, also the warning light icon is a cross-cut profile of a tire. Maybe the TPMS had communication issues with the pressure sensors in the tires or the tires didn't have the sensors or something

[@kemering]

They haven’t reset the tyre pressure monitoring after they changed to winter tires. After a tire change you have to adjust your tire pressure to spec and then reset it in the infotainment.

[@kruemelfelix]

@@kemering That's just dumb. Like why does every car manufacturer make everything so complicated? On Tesla you simply change tires and everything with TMPS works instantly. No need to calibrate, nothing.

[@mikashki]

@@kemering maybe it's that, maybe not. At around 21 minutes on the video, the car display shows "TPMS Fault" and then the tire pressure display shows no pressure readings at all, which to me would indicate some other system fault (with comms or sensors). At least my car clearly says and shows if a tire has too low pressure, or the pressure changes suddenly.

[@lukasz4993]

​@@kruemelfelix That is because Tesla is using an active TMPS. But many cheaper cars are using the ABS sensors to tell if the tyre pressure changes, which is less precise but cheaper since you need to have the ABS sensors anyways.

[@andreasschier7858]

@@lukasz4993 This MG5 has active sensors, it may not be street worthy in that configuration in some countries without an active TPMS. Issue in that case is that the sensors are not calibrated with the car.

[@nothere572]

The locked charger thing reminds me of VWs. It will lock the charger in place until you press the unlock button either on the fob or interior again to unlock the charger, even if the vehicle was never locked.

[@tomsproet6972]

Yeah on my e-golf it auto locks after its plugged in for a few seconds

[@thcleaner22]

Same of PSAs

[@jarhu86]

Was on a test drive with ID4 and got locked at fast charger in the middle of the night. Nothing seemed to help, locking/unlocking etc. For some reason after 30 minutes of being stranded the car unlocked the charger cable. Had some other issues as well and will not be buying VW EVs any time soon.

[@tomsproet6972]

However it unlocks after pressing the unlock on the fob

[@jarhu86]

@@tomsproet6972 Maybe it should but in my case it did not.

[@Kiyebed]

Thanks for the many great videos, especially those 1000km challenges. I'm looking forward to the bz4x challenge. Take care of yourself and your family. Greetings from Finland!

[@Danne89]

I remember when those thai cubes cost around 22-25SEK. Inflation hits hard!

[@CRAZYCR1T1C]

Have same problem with the ZS sometimes. Always carry a 10mm spanner to disconnect the 12v battery, resetting the car. MG quirks.

[@judebrown4103]

Well done Björn for knowing that you were too tired to continue. You looked worryingly tired in another of the MG5 videos and I was worried about you. We knew things would change when Isabel arrived and much as we might miss 9999 we'd much rather you weren't too tired to be a good husband and daddy. Still enjoyed your video, cheers and sorry we sent the rain 😏 👍

[@rikm12]

Ahhh MyMG 5 SR in the UK I have seen this issue of locking charger cable occur after charger communication problems. My thoughts is that the charger is still still sending a comms to the car. Resetting the charger appeared to resolve the issue for myself. Still nice to see they have added an unlock option in the facelift. Good to note... The failed HV issue has been reported on the UK forums as well. It was good to see that leave it for 20minutes helps to resolve issue. Also don't beat yourself up about having to make changes to your content to meet your family needs. As the saying goes Family comes first. thanks for content

[@nitashasinghapibul5307]

Brilliant! Another great video Bjorn and made even better by your honesty and showing the problems you had. Keep up the good work but also don’t forget to rest too! 😊

[@bjornjohansson9900]

I have the same problem sometimes as you have at 6:18 - very annoying and I have gotten an appointment to get it fixed, the dealer says an update will fix it. It’s a software error, I press the lock-unlock and then turn on and off the car and lock-unlock again. Also, I always end charging in the app before I unplug and it works fine but failed handshakes cannot be fixed via the app unlock. There is an emergency release but you need to unscrew the plastic over the hood. So you are screwed if all of this didn’t work and you didn’t bring tools.

[@PsychoDaD__]

I think you should have a software review for each car. MG sounds like a good value, but then you will run into shit like that which I feel should be added to the 'trip' time, especially when this is car fault. Just to be fair the bad ones should be revisited once a year just to check if they fixed the problem and set up the pattern of behavior for those companies.

[@HeikoElectric]

20:50 TPMS is the Tire Pressure Monitoring System.

[@NinetyTres]

Did you try circle, triangle circle, up, up, down, down ?

[@KsiNixNie]

Came here because I was thinking of replacing my e-Niro with an MG5. Not anymore... Thanks Bjørn for doing the grunt work for us.

[@citedcanvas85]

Is there a cntrl alt del feature to reboot the software?

[@Dom21221]

The Fact that cars with such Software/Problems still exists in 2022 wtf. Thank your for all your work Björn btw

[@ISuperTed]

I’ve had a Peugeot e208 for a month and have have a similar thing but with my home charger being locked and couldn’t unlock it, either by manually pressing the lock button on the charge point or by locking/unlocking the car. I actually had to turn my home electric off to release it!

[@Xray26]

TPMS stands for tyre pressure management system, and if it is lit up it means you have low pressure on at least one of the tyres. this may be caused by a drop in outside temperature, or something similar. Usually the tyre intake valve has this typre pressure sensor plus a type of wireless transmitter for the info to be received by the car (and thus displayed). So, if it is lit, check the tyres. Keep up the very good down to Earth real life reviews, Bjorn!

[@asteppy]

Come on, you'll be explaining to Bjorn next that "what the heck is this thing" is actually a towing hook :)

[@MrAllprog]

I wonder how easy it would be if the display actually showed these instructions. I mean, if you buy a car nowadays, it has some HD displays, lights up leds under your butt, and do other totally useless things, so obviously, it is impossible for manufacturers to print out clear and trivial messages. :)

[@moestrei]

Tire Pressure Monitoring System

[@bjornnyland]

No. You're wrong. TPMS is some kind of weapon. Or maybe it's to blow bubbles. I'm a car guy so I know this.

[@pqvid]

Tank Protection Missile System. You should be worried when it fails - no protection against enemy tanks any more!

[@m3photo726]

Thanks Bjørn. Cool music too!

[@sven-ovebjerkan3539]

09:58 this is wrong. I had a lot of problems charging mine on my first trip, cause I was trying to start the charge from the infotainment as well as from the charger. Got error of “HV-battery disconnected”, etc. So not touching the charging in the infotainment haven’t given me any issues after that. :) Also, the MG5 has known issues for acting strangely when there is something connected to the ODB2-port and communicating with the ECU while car is locked. Things like triggering the car alarm, etc is things that happens in those cases. Could your Car Scanner dongle be “disturbing” the car and causing these strange issues?

[@AB-yt4hd]

I had the same problem on my MG ZS once. The DC charger didn't charge and my wife had the bad idea to try yo start the charge from the car. It crashed the system and I had to unscrew the - of the battery to reset the car.

[@s.kxx1956]

Glad to see the MG heritage still here, problems when they were made in uk and problems now made in china

[@markymarc136]

Here are my ABC's for today: 1-Always Blame Car (with buggy software), 2- Always Bring Cookies. But that Max burger looked really good and i agree, it looks better than McDonald burger any day of the week. Good job Bjorn!

[@GhostLetsHack]

I have had a minor problem with an MG ZS EV one year ago. It wouldnt work and turn on to go into gear. After waiting for 30mins outside the car and not consuming power from the 12V battery, the car managed to restart and work

[@mishulicius]

Bjorn Nyland... valuable burger advice! 🙂

[@chekov6668]

always be calm! Many cars do not switch off their control units directly, but first go into standby mode. this means they are available again more quickly if the owner has only left the car for a few minutes. So if you have problems and want to reset everything, you should leave the car and lock it for 5 or better 10 minutes (depends on brand). Some cars also recognize when someone is sitting in the driver's seat and do not switch off completely for reasons of comfort.

[@tobiasstaermose]

Stay safe and healthy. One less stressful challenge, one extra day with the family. Also Max FTW.

[@OrangutanSquash]

I liked this format better! Got to see you drive the car do some charging, then grab food and do some shopping. 99% of how most people use their car day to day. And you hit all the review points along the way.

[@slythecatproductions]

Low tire pressure the yellow horse shoe on the right in display. Same on Ford or Genesis.

[@TriviaChallenge]

My Leaf locked to a Pod Point charger once, it only released when I drove away from the charger slightly. Weird!

[@casperaaboe6105]

Fun for the viewer - when the unexpected happens!

[@martinwer8943]

Please take care of yourself Bjørn! No shame in turning around. I always enjoy your videos

[@sirmortimer5337]

love the level headed decision making and judgement you apply

[@2013AirForce]

Come on MG! It’s like they did not test the car before public release. Thank you Bjørn for the great content as always.

[@gregchristie2763]

Your burger review..spot on 👌The wind noise & low res cameras.. I think you may find it's because the MG5 being old tech ..old design, even though it's had a face lift, it's designed at the time when MG or SAIC we're not so clever at designing cars.. then they up thier game.. the result being a very quiet Marvel R... and when you test the MG4 for I think you might sufficiently quiet also.

[@user-ff8ju1ee9b]

Bjorn, how is your new house build progress?

[@ronrubble]

I have an mg5 and have had to deal with being locked to a CCS charger before (happened once in 5000 miles). There is an emergency release ring pull behind the charge port under the bonnet. I carry a flathead screwdriver and a spanner for disconnecting the 12V battery as recommended by the UK mgev forum. I am a happy owner, I think the car is great value, but these issues are real and apparently intermittent

[@robertaw1221]

So basically you still need to carry a toolkit with an MG. Sounds like the days when the Brits made them!

[@michaelschmidt5966]

Today we eat at the same ChopChop in Uddevalla for the frist time. Great Food 👍 I am a Danish follower on hollyday in Uddevalla. I love your many videos when you drive different EVs, specielt when you drive in Norway 🇳🇴 Super country. From an VW ID3 owner from Denmark 🇩🇰

[@michalvaner3167]

The locking of the port reminds me of something that's on my mind for some time. Most EVs unlock the charge port for DC when changing is done, but keep it locked for AC (or at leash have that option), because you're maybe using your own cable or some schuko cable that's not necessarily locked on the other side, so the car holds onto it to protect it from thieves. But there are also AC stations with their own cable. If someone, for some reason, doesn't leave for a long time (being sick, maybe...), the car holds locked to the station and can't even be towed away. Is there some kind of solution for this?

[@dgurevich1]

A similar problem happened to my ZS EV. There is a thin black cable with a loop on the end under the driver side headlight you can pull to release the connector lock. I also had to disconnect the 12 volt battery to reset the computer.

[@sven-ovebjerkan3539]

The handle is right behind the charge port at the center. But it’s underneath the cover so you have to remove about 10 plastic screws to remove the cover to access it. 🙄

[@max33kick]

Everytime I hear you feak out and said 'what?!' & I feel good. Keep it going!

[@chrisbailey5055]

did they put the winter tires on and forget to put TPMS sensors in?

[@sven-ovebjerkan3539]

Probably forgot to “pair” them with the car. Has do be done at the workshop the first time with new TPMS.

[@MetalBeerGeek]

This car is so happy receiving a charge that it keeps the cable without sucking any power out of it! What climax! I know implementing a default specified protocol is very difficult for certain companies... But if you can borrow the car again it would be nice to see how it performs in the 1000km challenge and if it has more quirks when having a high demand road trip.

[@mediocre_moto]

Warning light @20:50 is "EMPTY WHISKY GLASS". Just top fluid level up when you get back home.

[@NorthernSoulieKTF]

Bjorn, please please get your hands on a Renault Megane E Tech for one of your full interrogations. I have seen countless reviews of the car but would really like your analysis of it. Unfortunately the French aren’t keen on us Brits so our right hand drive versions are stripped of the more “glamorous” aspects of the car (9” infotainment only, no leather, limited colour choice, no dashboard ambient lighting etc) but it still looks like a competent EV, as mechanicals are the same.

[@chismonchismon]

I'd love to see a Bjørn review of that car too. I test drove one recently at one of their UK city events and I wasn't impressed. The reversing camera was absolutely shocking, worse even than the MG5 in this review. The stripped back UK spec is a real shame, but that didn't stop their salesman on the day trying to convince me the smaller centre display was "better"; spoiler, it isn't. I had it on my shortlist for next year, but it's no longer on the list.

[@muellerhoch4]

Dear Bjorn, thanks for your car-tests!! I get a MG5 in December. Which diagnostic tool do you use? Now I use the CanZE for my ZOE. Thanks Fritz

[@andytaylor6893]

I have a first gen MG5 and the issues you are having seem similar to the issues I have seen on mine. Basically as long as you only charge the car in the completely off position and don’t turn it on mid-charge, it charges and releases from charges just fine. Can’t believe they haven’t done a software fix for this though.

[@mrSkandalpolisen]

TPMS = Tire Pressure Monitoring System It looks like none of the pressure sensors is working since all four tires shows ---- pressure. It may be the dealer has shifted positions of the wheels and not paired the sensors to the car or that the dealer has put on custom wheels without sensors (or not paired to the vehicle).

[@jjonkie]

ABC Always Buy Coilovers..... that wheel gap is massive !

[@edwyncorteen1527]

Well know MG issue with charging, next time you test one ensure you have a 10mm spanner to disconnect the 12v battery!

[@dangrass]

Although this is a fine Chinese car, it seems that the Morris Garage/Lucas spirits are still there. All hail the Prince of Darkness!

[@michaelnilsson8400]

One of the best 1000km tests. I mean it. Yes, perhaps not according the rules but….

[@geraldsitorus]

It may be a coincidence but the only 2 times I saw someone had major issues at fastchargers, both were MGs. They just somehow dont like fastchargers? I have many colleagues driving MG with 0 issue but they solely use AC chargers.

[@matthewwakeham2206]

We send you rain, you send us back hydropower! Potentially a lot more rain on the way!

[@vasouris5873]

The amount of people who don't know they are out of luck are too high.

[@Vinalys82]

25:12 - switching to thai version to check the burger part 😂

[@FFVoyager]

The Peugeot e-208 had a problem charging when you did a 1000km challenge too.

[@cms1104]

I almost got stranded in the middle of nowhere in the UK this summer with the e208. And then I remembered his video and disconnected the battery. 😁

[@gabrielecomensoli2787]

27:37 Taycan cross turismo is actually a kind of half crossover but yes it is derived from a shooting brake/estate shape. Taycan sport turismo exists as well which is lower, like the sedan version. Anyways, I think it is difficult to define these Taycan versions as proper station wagon models, first of all for the fact that a proper 5 meter long station wagon should have 600 liters of luggage and a more roomy interior.

[@mikebreen2890]

Just seen another video with the exact same problem.

[@sven-ovebjerkan3539]

06:10 This error appears sometimes when starting the car without pressing the brake first. Could that be the reason here?

[@bjornnyland]

No. I always push the brake pedal.

[@Wolf-yw7en]

British car brand Made in China. What could possibly go wrong. Lol!

[@claessjostrom565]

Remind me of the trip from hell early on when I drove from Fremont to Valencia with the e-tron, it took a little over 9 hours. This was when Audi had problem with the charger getting stuck

[@robertaw1221]

I think you should be including the technical problem times in the challenges Bjørn. It's part of the real world experience of long-distance driving. Can always do another review later as another commenter said.

[@semat3595]

Never mind the 999, we totaly understand, take care of yourself and your family! And the comparison at the end of the video was just superb! Happy ending indeed 😂

[@gregchristie2763]

People saying it's an important and good test..agreed.. & so are other tests, but for me it's also about entertainment.. and you always make me laugh Bjorn.. so keep them coming and keep them entertaining at least for me. And as you said you can measure a successful format by the amount of viewings and thumbs up or thumbs down.

[@roygardiner4002]

If your Tyre Pressure Monitoring System is trying to tell you about low tyre pressure isn't that going to mess up your consumption figures Bjorn? Tried kicking the tyres? works every time.

[@richardgoldsmith7278]

What tyre pressures were set. Noticed the warning symbol, or did you never get to find out with the tpms fault?

[@anthonyhamilton2250]

Back to the kind of vlog I like from you , nice images, loads of shit, & interesting trivia, plus the EV

[@drfuzz1756]

TPMS = Tire Pressure Monitoring System / tires are low in air pressure

[@ilkererol1986]

do you check tyre pressure before test ?

[@ronaldderooij1774]

TPMS stands for Tyre Pressure Monitoring System and the warning light has been like that for at least 15 years on both fossil cars and electric cars (EU standard). You're welcome.

[@KamiraXIV]

25:10 - It would have been pretty funny if Bjørn turned the burger around, and it had a bite taken out of it in the "back side"... Then going "oh oh, nothing to see, nothing to see"

[@ohyesitsme]

It's amazing how Bjorn Made it home with zero tyre pressure. Do you think that's why the car is so noisy, 🤗

[@bjornnyland]

Incorrect. TPMS error is not the same as low tire pressure. You should know this.

[@ohyesitsme]

@@bjornnyland I was making a joke Bjorn as it showed no pressures on the gom

[@lm971120]

Every time you wear this jumper I thought you work for Sainsbury's hahaha😂

[@SebastienChedalBornu]

some people in france faced this problem. but you may have a very old version of the software. i tell that because of the laggy infotainment screen and the lane assist icon that doesn't looks like mine.

[@TheKylern389]

TPMS is Tire Pressure Monitor system.

[@RamazanSay]

12:26 it should be BMS sensor for 12v battery

[@EngineersFear]

Similar problem on a DFSK Seres 3. The first version refused to talk to 2 out of 3 chargers. The second version worked on all chargers until it completely stopped charging. Only disconnecting 12V battery helped. ABC - always blame chinese ;)

[@silversill1323]

The new chicken burgers from Max are super good and resemble 'McSpicy' in Asia (yeah, mcdonalds in Asia ain't bad at all!).

[@kaziez]

Tpms is the tyre pressure monitoring system. Great review thanks

[@dorsetengineering]

Is this the LFP battery?

[@flyordieinafire]

Tire pressure monitor issue. Low TPMS battery maybe. Would not think a press car would have this issue.

[@bjornnyland]

Nope. TPMS error doesn't mean low tire pressure. It means the system is malfunctioning.

[@flyordieinafire]

@@bjornnyland the light usually only shows up when you have low tire pressure. In your case there was an error/malfunction which seems pretty abnormal. In my Kia Niro EV there's the ability to release lock by pulling up on lock release inside hood. I wonder if this very problematic car has something similar.

[@nuclearping]

Can you do Honda e (advance) tests? 🙂

[@davidgrea]

Bailout for the win great video and great laugh Cheers

[@wgroentje1]

Nice video,When you test the Ionic 5 2023😅😊

[@gruselguru9430]

You can speak with MG and maybe do the challenge again with a repaired/new MG5 🙂

[@twotgfltandahalf]

With my Kona EV, I don't charge at Ionity. It's a lottery if the station does proper handshake or not. The stations I have in my region (no Ionity) have been flawless, but there's some trolls in the Ionity stations.

[@Peter-st1lt]

No problem Bjorn all good I enjoy the effort you always put into your videos! Just curious if you are planning to try an older kona in the future to see how the battery behaves at a low state of charge, mine a 2020 model almost left me stranded at 4% with just a power reduced warning this week. the car has just 49000 km on it! That reminded me of the Ampera E, Pawel was driving and that did something similar.

[@philipdeiteren643]

Hey Bjorn, Love your video's. in case you didn't find out yet: The horseshoe on the dashboard meens tire pressure issue

[@bjornnyland]

Lol

[@gunterg.9588]

Hy Björn, i was yesterday with my MG5 150 km in Germany/Bavaria on the Road. It was a little bit raining and 8 Grd.C. 80 km im on the Autobahn with 115- 140 km and the cons.was 16.2 kW/h. My Car has the 61.1 kWh Battery and i`m verry Impresst vor the lowest Cons.

[@bliers]

Ha! Bjorn, love your videos but next review compare same car when your rested and full vs. tired and hungry

[@pka8514]

TPMS must be a weapon

[@bjornnyland]

Maybe it's to blow bubbles.

[@pka8514]

@@bjornnyland Bioweapon bubbles

[@therandomtester9561]

@@bjornnyland nah, pretty sure TP is short for Tooth Paste. MS might be Multiple Shooter?

[@raph84]

@@therandomtester9561 TP is Toilet Paper... it was still configured for Halloween.

[@therandomtester9561]

@@raph84 ahh, yeah that makes sence 😀

[@MrTeq333]

Hi, potential buyer of the MG5 here, how are the problems with handshake and charging port locking after 9 months, any fix / improvement? Also, does it steal power from AC / heater when charging and using the heater / AC? Thx for any help :)

[@shockthemonkey7046]

Slight aside from this video content but what is the make of the dongle and phone software you use to get the detail battery information?

[@therookienomore88]

Car scanner app and any obd2 Bluetooth dongle

[@piercingpusher1]

No burger are better than Burger King....

[@SuperAndytaylor]

Great music !! Had to turn the bass down😊