Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5 range test

[@arildvegsund]

It's actually correct Bjørn, new tires equals more consumption. It's called stepping, think as if each lamella on tires is a step. When oem's meassure consumption it's normal to use worn out or grinded down tires.

[@TheLastMoccasin]

I hope you can test Michelin Pilot Sport EV tires in summer!!! Would love a head-to-head comparison vs others.

[@laurenz138]

against Pirelli P Zero and the Tesla standard Hankook Ventus S1 evo 3 ev.

[@raidentsao]

Been waiting for these tyres. Available this autumn I heard

[@TheVeryEnd87]

Wish there were a tire-noise test, e.g: Same car, same wheel size and rims, but different brands to check the various noise levels. As a EV owner the tires makes a huge difference, but it is impossible to find credible tests (controlled) to range the tires from noise. The best I can find are databases that states "this is a silent / noisy tires". It provides little help for the end user when there is no test. Comfort is important, and I am willing to sacrifise a bit of range and safety for better noise reduction.

[@GeckoClever]

There are EU-marks for EU-tested tires. It says consumption, breaking in wet environment, and tire-noise. Hakkapeliitta R3 was 72dB.

[@TheVeryEnd87]

@@GeckoClever Oh? Do all tires have this? And is there a database page to see all tires? Thanks

[@pompiuses]

@@GeckoClever The EU tire noise measurement is only meant for noise outside the car (for pedestrians), not inside the car. These are two very different things. Tires that have a soft compound often makes less noise inside the car, but more noise outside the car.

[@superclementz]

@@TheVeryEnd87 it is pass by noise in dB. If it is transferrable into the coupe of the car is a different story. On the R3 the pitch on my 20'' wheels changes depending on speed. I don't consider myself very sensitive to noise (stereo is playing quite loud most of the time).

[@cliff4377]

well, I can say for sure if you care about noise, never ever run r-series tires. lol

[@ObserverDingue]

The tyre model is "R5 EV". This is good marketing by Nokian, because noise is more noticeable for EV drivers than fossil drivers. As you've said the kind of noise is relevant too, the kind of sound frequency, so perhaps the noise reduction will be noticeable for all drivers (just more so with EVs). The R5s are designed for "electric cars, crossovers and SUVs" so other improvements over the R3, like maybe wet road handling, would be relevant for all heavy cars. My Michelin winter tyres (not "Nordic") for my fossil van are rated as 71dB on the EU label (there's no EU label available yet for the R5s). The Nokian R3 EU label rating for noise is 73dB. Do you know how this standardised test is conducted? Presumably it's desgned so as not to include engine noise.

[@TheCoBBus]

I wonder if this would also be good and a PHEV ? Also will they have the r5 in smaller sizes? like a 215/55 17" or 215/45 17"?

[@nathalietremblay2772]

Yes they will, I'm a Nokian resaler and a fan of Nokian for more than 10 years but I tested that Nokian is not anymore a good tire in deep snow. Michelin xice snow and north 4 have way more grip in real snowee conditions (Québec, Vermont and Ontario road trips ) Michelin tested and R3 and hakka 10 studded and also hakka 9 not a Nokian fan anymore. Sorry Nokian. My new WRX will have 2 sets of wheels and tire ready one with Xice snow and the other with north4 studded for hard driving on my sundays gaz fuelling trips lake Champlain. For the Tesla the tires to go 100% is continental vikings 7 or Michelin confort, millage, noise, grip. Tires is a subjective thing, the reputation tends to make your opinion and a good saler is the one who can sale a freezer to an Inuit without lying. I'm a pretty damn good saler the best ratio of high end tire in my group because I never carry my client where he don't want to go. My opinion on winter tires is purely objective and has been tested.

[@f1master973]

It all is down to track temps. 1°C isn't good for warming the compound to get it on the right elasticity to diminish friction/consumption. So you need more agressive warming up before the test, and then you are ready to go. With my B class tyres the consumption goes down 10% after warming up. I notice clearly when I come back home after a long trip, and compare with back from work.

[@aklophus]

Well…it’s winter tyres…not exactly made for high temperatures.

[@cliff4377]

winter tire test @#$%

[@tougedriver8358]

Interesting review, I've had the first Nokian Hakka R. I'll be needing new winter tires for next year.

[@dxutube]

Good video. Back to my ETS2 range testing.

[@andersvikan3886]

Kan du teste frigus ev ice3 dekk? Anbefales på flere sider men finner ingen tester fra disse dekkene. Megahjul prøver å selge disse hardt.

[@raeldor]

What rims to do you have on there, if you don't mind my asking?

[@sbirchsbirch6232]

He mention 'pizza wheels' from Marcusbil. Missed opportunity to tell newcomers what the hell is going on ;) I want to know too.

[@PierreVilleneuve88]

I want to know too! Anyone recognizes these wheels?

[@paavopaatero5229]

Hello Björn how are the Hakka R5 on an RWD on icing conditions

[@paulhindle3961]

Acoustic foam would work really well if you could put it on the OUTSIDE of the tire 😉. I really can't see how foam on the inside of the rubber helps.

[@paulhindle3961]

@@benbaselet2026 I've tried with and without, as expected, there is no difference.

[@PalpatinesPlumber]

It does work but foam only reduces higher frequencies and most road noise is low frequency

[@superclementz]

@Bjørn Acoustic foam har vært tilgjengelig ganske lenge som alternativ fra flere merker. Har ikke fått prøve 1-1 på dette før, men ser gjerne om du opplever en forskjell i test. Opplevd støy i kupeen skal visstnok være lavere, om dette er overførbart til en db måler aner jeg ikke :)

[@javierdevicente95]

I'm kind of confused with what car is it cause you say it's an LFP 60 one but then when you open on 2:48 the charge tab it shows 50-60-80-90-100 like the ones that aren't LFP that don't make that distinction anymore, right?

[@cliff4377]

ok I know the aero kit is awesome, but I think I got 275wh/mi before I got it when I was on snows. for many thousands of miles (sr+) I can put those tires on and run a few thousand miles with the aero kit and coilovers and see if it changed, But I'm not going to be driving only highway miles so I don't think it will compare at all =(

[@cliff4377]

I'm going to be need to be paid up front before I go back to TX fyi

[@nathalietremblay2772]

I'm a Nokian resaler and a fan of Nokian for more than 10 years but I tested that Nokian is not anymore a good tire in deep snow. Michelin xice snow and north 4 have way more grip in real snowee conditions (Québec, Vermont and Ontario road trips ) Michelin tested and R3 and hakka 10 studded and also hakka 9 not a Nokian fan anymore. Sorry Nokian. The new R5 to tight for real deep snow (smachted potatoes) My new WRX will have 2 sets of wheels and tire ready one with Xice snow and the other with north4 studded for hard driving on my sundays gaz fuelling trips lake Champlain. For the Tesla the tires to go 100% is continental vikings 7 or Michelin confort, millage, noise, grip. Tires is a subjective thing, the reputation tends to make your opinion and a good saler is the one who can sale a freezer to an Inuit without lying. I'm a pretty damn good saler the best ratio of high end tire in my group because I never carry my client where he don't want to go. My opinion on winter tires is purely objective and has been tested.

[@jkev1425]

I think it always said "standard plus" in this Software tab.

[@eirik500]

3.1 bar = 45 PSI. That is extremely high pressure for such a mid weight car without any cargo. No wonder noise is high and comfort and consumption is low.

[@bjornnyland]

Not high at all. This kind of pressure is common not only on Teslas.

[@eirik500]

@@bjornnyland No. Some examples below, you can show some more. ID.4, which is a heavier car: 2.5 bar = 36.26 psi Normal load all-around 2.8 bar = 40.6 psi Front Max load, 3.1 bar = 45 psi Rear Max load e-tron, a much much heavier car: front 35 rear 38 psi, 2,4-2,6 bar. Normal load all-around Front Max load 39 psi rear Max load 42 psi 2,7-2,9 bar. Why doesn't Tesla specify unloaded vs loaded pressure, and you ran 5-10% higher (3,1 vs 2,9) than nominal on a lighter car?

[@TheMarlowFTW]

Anyone knows which rims are these?

[@petersziladi0222]

These should be PH Edition II Electric rims

[@arlingdring2180]

Björn, how many km drive you in a year?

[@bjornnyland]

About 100-120k

[@dusty-vo8gh]

@@bjornnyland good thing you drive EVs.

[@slippyg]

How can it be so dirty.. welcome to black paint

[@dxutube]

60kWh per stunden

[@nathalietremblay2772]

Be carefull to not pay to much more on this EV foam thing. It's a 1/10 of a dBs in real life. You wont notice day and night.

[@ahappyman_100]

Пишите по-русски! Ничего не понятно!!!

[@melbuh7016]

I don't understand why you still say kwh/h to the charging power. It is clearly visible in the SMT that it is an actual power. Even if it is averaged, it remains a power, which Unit is measured in Watt. Power = work per time. I know that you know it better ;-) Please don't use that wrong unit. The stupid dinosaurs will keep it and then we have to live with that for the future! Beside that, thanks for the video!

[@vl3005]

He's using it as a joke to jab at the German manufacturers like BMW who use it. He knows it's wrong and stupid, don't worry... 😜

[@melbuh7016]

@@vl3005 I know, but as more often you repeat it, as more everybody takes it serious. Works like propaganda.

[@nunohannover]

Yap…. made in russia…..Putin sends you hello and thank you

[@bjornnyland]

Incorrect. These tires are made in Finland. Watch 0:51 again.

[@adampiorowski]

If I ever decide to buy Nokian, will definitely check where they are manufactured. Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦

[@manowaari]

Talked to one Nokian tire guy, he said 5 years ago that Russia factory machines were newer so quality was better than in those Finnish made. But I belive that Finnish factory also got upgrades after that. I have had both and they have been working similarly.

[@firstandlastname2390]

They are still made in Russia for the Russian market. ❤️ 🇷🇺