Black Metal Musician Reacts to I WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE BLACK METAL I

[@skuggensdam13]

I'm a woman in her mid-50s who got into black metal just a few years ago. I got a job as an album reviewer. At the time they needed someone to review the black metal albums they kept getting sent. I was a metalhead, but knew nothing about black metal. Honestly, I was intimidated by the scene because it was so angry and so dark. Nonetheless, I took it as a challenge so I started reviewing a genre I knew little about. I ended up loving black metal. There's a primordial quality to it that just works. 🤘

[@Cynips]

That's so cool! And I'm saying that as a 60 y/o guy who didn't pick up on black metal until some 15 years ago. Congrats on doing that as a job.

[@Hanniballinda]

It's so cool that you kept your mind and heart open for new music ❤ I'm 33 now and have always been a metalhead too. As a teenager I had quite a dark phase and just scratched the surface of black metal, but turned to metalcore then. Today I am discovering the universe of black metal and the deeper I dive, the more I start to love it. To me it's something you need to give a try without any bias, to be able to discover its quality and depht.

[@eringursky3503]

I got into it later. Im 49 now so probably in my mid 20s. Well I really got into it. I was all about Doom and thrash. I did have the Bathory album when I was 17. Right now im hardcore into Viking/Celtic metal. I love it.

[@KenGold666]

YES

[@fuzz668]

Almost 40 here, and just got into it pretty deeply a couple years ago thanks to my good friend Hoot. I've always been into death metal and in death metal bands. It's a nice change of pace.

[@iamnoone9041]

The answer to the question Why do people like black metal is super easy. People like black metal because it's f'n awesome!!!

[@gixxusmetalman7435]

And it's more interesting to listen than the shit on the radio 🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟

[@WolfAngelChaos]

yep!

[@blackheavyblans]

​@@gixxusmetalman7435this

[@Sumoniggro]

​@@gixxusmetalman7435 there are plenty of genres that don't play on the radio though so that isn't a reason to specifically listen to black metal, second wave black metal has the same rebellious spirit towards death metal that punk had towards contemporary rock and role. Unfortunately Black metal ultimately fell victim to the reality of music and genre categorisation which is musical conventions and tropes so black metal bands aren't exactly unique which is one of the complaints they had towards death metal.

[@gixxusmetalman7435]

@@Sumoniggro they don't play any metal on the radio in Nz let alone death metal,closest they get is Iron Maiden but only one song 🤟🤟🤟

[@windirzombie]

Being a lady in the USA and not having any metalhead friends, I didn’t know black metal existed until I got my first iPod years ago… It’s like I’ve always heard this music in my head.. I’m so thankful black metal found me and I haven’t stopped listening since… I embrace the darkness… the music feels like my insides…

[@RoguSpanish]

That's exactly how I felt the first time I heard doom metal, it was like, where have you been all my life? I was introduced to black metal by a friend in high school though and loved it ever since, it's the only music you can truly relate to when you're totally dead inside.

[@VVRAITH6]

🤘

[@tdtm82]

MC5 were the forefathers of REALLY heavy music but almost never referenced. From USA.

[@MossyAntlers6]

I’m a long time Punk Rock and Black Metal fan, why can’t this guy let both amazing genres exist in peace? 🖤 🤘🏻

[@RobHellfire666]

Right!!?? I mean, so fk'n what if you listen to punk (as I do too) you can't listen to B.M??? GTFO!! 🙄😎

[@opiumdennis7249]

completely agree. this pretentious poindexter is sooooo full of himself. He's got videos talking about all the "Nuances" of NYHC.. ummmmmmmm.... yeah...

[@MossyAntlers6]

Exactly! Like all this fighting and drama is so unnecessary.

[@notyaboi2781]

If your source for black metal is lords of chaos, you dont know the history of black metal. Dude completely over looked the canadian, brazilian and japanese scene which were way ahead of everyone else. Norway is only known because of bad man zumzum doing things.

[@RobHellfire666]

@@notyaboi2781 💯

[@RufusRogers-kl5ni]

There’s so much passion in black metal, this guy would never understand

[@AdrasteiaMJimenez_37]

Right 👌

[@heimdall9095]

👌

[@XPGrindDeathking]

His takes are some of the worst ever, pretty much every metal related video sucks.

[@metamorphicblood]

That’s how it goes, with somebody who insists that nu-metal was “never considered cool”. Guess it was my imagination when it seemed to completely flood top 40 rock radio for years.

[@WolfAngelChaos]

yeah

[@VITAMIN-DEATH]

My dad is at his last. I'm keeping him company.Watching Boriss videos really cheers me up.Thank you friend.Greetings from Greece

[@SebGarSeb]

All the best 💐

[@RealGengarTV]

Keeping your father company while he is on his deathbed, you sir/mam have your priorities right. Family first.

[@VITAMIN-DEATH]

@RealGengarTV I am male,40 years old. My dad is 70. I would like it,when it's time to depart from this mortal life to be able to say to my inner voice/conscience that I did what I could for my family.Thank you and be well

[@RealGengarTV]

@@VITAMIN-DEATH i am in the same position (male age 40+, parents age 70+) but my parents still have their health. When they go I hope to be there as they were there when I was born and I hope my kids will be there when I die. Such is the circle of life and death.

[@-Swamp_Donkey-]

Dude, I’m very sorry. You know deep down it’s going to happen someday, but nothing can prepare you for it. Channeling positive psychic energy your way.

[@tomasjonsson7141]

I love both black and death metal 🐐🐐🐐

[@elpeladorobles5013]

That dude used to write for MetalCucks thats all that needs to be said.

[@wesleypipes5673]

Makes sense

[@aranadelabismo]

What is metal cucks?

[@MetalPersonJ]

He was the troll Sargeant D, which single handedly killed that site. Honestly thats still the worst thing he ever did.

[@elijahloveell8809]

Honestly explains a lot lol

[@themadmattster9647]

Whoa never knew that

[@infernosatx9731]

You're facial expression "What the fuck is this" 😂 😂 😂 Had me dying lol

[@714GriM]

😂😂😂😂 same I laughed so hard my dogs woke up startled 😂

[@Suburbannite]

he knew exactly what he was watching lmao. watch the entire video he had hardly any objections to what Finn was saying

[@DOROHEDOROFAN]

me too man 😭

[@josevega1309]

Yeah, that shit was funny as fuck!

[@Robasaibot]

You have to “get” black metal. In your black, melancholic soul. It’s not for everyone. But it speaks to me on an alternate plane it’s hard to describe but you guys know what I’m talkin about. 🤘🏻

[@AdrasteiaMJimenez_37]

🤘🥰👌

[@Yoshi92]

The most emotional and definitely most "true music" to my ears. Like oldskool grandpas listen to Mozart and Bach and enjoy it to the fullest, I listen to BM in the same way.

[@Daniel92941]

Best thing is, he flexes with listening to noise Black Metal, because "it shocks people".

[@Stardust799]

I don't flex much. But sometimes i wonder do i have mental problems considering how i much i like those nasty Underground one man projects. I haunts other people.

[@XPGrindDeathking]

Can't expect much of someone who thinks "Trap" metal is the future of metal.

[@Daniel92941]

@@XPGrindDeathking or someone, who complains about racism in metal and at the same time thinks, that asian bands are just fetish objects.

[@maxmeggeneder8935]

@@Stardust799 you like them cause they´re great. but i know the feeling.

[@frankvandorp2059]

I've been throught some of his videos and the crazy thing is, that's how he judges ALL music fans: as if they don't like or hate music because of how it sounds, but because they want to flex to the outside world, or want to feel like part of some group. He did an entire video arguing that people hate nu metal "because they hate its fans and the media said bad things about nu metal". No dude, I don't like nu metal because I think it sounds bad. That's it.

[@metamorphicblood]

Man, if I didn’t have Finn McKenty telling me the correct ways to be a nonconformist I don’t know what I’d do.

[@waveslayer007]

I like watching finns stuff from time to time, dont always agree with him, but he is usually entertaining

[@delboytrotter2042]

Hey..at least you'd be a conforming nonconformist.

[@metamorphicblood]

@@waveslayer007 I can deal with watching KZbinrs I don’t always agree with. I just find him unbearably smug.

[@mabeylane7163]

he's just saying his opinion. i'm not the biggest fan of him but he's never once said everyone should agree with him.

[@spankyjeffro5320]

He's doing the same thing he claims to hate about older black metal, but he doesn't even stand by it. "This is by far my favourite...", "I don't know that much about them.". Then why call them your favourite?

[@Dravasky]

I’m almost 43 and have loved black metal since I was a teen and still get the stomach drops from a good song, finally saw Mayhem live some months back, soooo gooood. 🤘🏻

[@javi5810]

When i express my opinion on black metal. I hear it as music that wants to be angry and dark. The way they compose nails it so well. It doesnt need any lyrics at all because you van feel how angry rvery instrument is. Its great music. If you use random black metal riffs and play them clean it sounds so beautiful you can tell theres classical influence that no one talks about with black metal. The raw production also adds so much emption to it.

[@JustAnotherHeavyMetalManiac]

Ah yes, good old Finn ‘You’re racist if you don’t like trap metal’ McKenty.

[@thisisnotmyrealname6990]

Finn ‘Metalheads don’t like people that wear hats because it reminds them of black people’ McKenty

[@PxNxWxGxW]

​@@thisisnotmyrealname6990 Finn is just so hard to watch.

[@EvilDeadthe2nd]

Did he really say this?

[@thisisnotmyrealname6990]

@@EvilDeadthe2nd yeah

[@mattthekiller9129]

Wait a second, there is actually a genre called trap metal?

[@Vranaanna]

Why do I love black metal? Because it’s dark and mysterious, out of this world. It feeds my imagination, other types of metal are not quite like this.

[@Metallideth10]

true norwegian summer… rain.

[@tzindombre8640]

i wish we had rain during summer here in the south. you are lucky

[@LordOfNihil]

i live in south east alaska, a town that claims the title of "little norway". now i know why.

[@Filofeten]

I am from Sweden. So the weather is pretty much the same as in Norway . Shitty all the time. We call summer the best day of the year.

[@srenredissen5228]

My simple answer is: I love black metal for guitar tremolo, blast beats and evil vocals.

[@QazwerDave]

Finn McKenty is either wrong about EVERYTHING, or a troll !!

[@ion_eyes]

I'm not really a metal guy, but KZbin recommended this video to me and I'm glad I watched it. Thanks for your reactions and analysis.

[@tomh888]

Keep going bro, black metal is life

[@fogfullofsilhouettes5842]

For me, black metal is more of a feeling than a sound, if that makes sense? As a genre it's raw yet beautiful, It's Dark yet enlightening, It's unintelligible yet understanable. Theres a gravitation towards it because the genre is extremely different in comparison to so many other genres of music, even within the metal scene. Black Metal contnuously flips its head as to what you make of it. The sub genres of black metal combine with other genres and themes, such as folk music, medieval themes, symphonic and melodic, Atmospheric and Ambient. Theres a strange beauty to it.

[@HeathenDance]

"Black Metal is more of a feeling than a sound." LOOOOOOOOL. The amount of times I read or heard something like is. As a REAL Satanist, I came to realize that the Black Metal scene is FILLED with sensitive, insecure emos lol.

[@boxcutter8887]

​@@HeathenDance back to your cringe hole, goat LARPER.

[@DeathcoreOfKrieg]

​@@HeathenDancewho gives a shit about your pretentious views?

[@ShowerOnceYearly]

​@@HeathenDance wtf is a "real satanist"? They say they dont worship or believe in satan.

[@Jerseyboondocks]

I agree, the feelings associated with it also are a big part of listening to black metal, besides the style of music. The atmosphere. Don't listen to the edgy satanist that commented above about emo's because that's really cringe. They had to let everyone know they're a Satanist like it's some kind of badge of honor. There was no need to brag about it

[@tanneredge9774]

Norway. Cold and dry in the winter, slightly less cold and wet in the summer. Perfect metal country.

[@Vessenkestrel]

I think my only issue with the video is that it assumes that black metal is listened to mainly to capitalize on its image, and not because people like how it sounds. It’s interesting to me how to some people describe the music as sounding like nails on a chalkboard and others describe it as beautiful. Don’t get me wrong I love the aesthetics of the genre, and the occult themes but I’d never force myself to listen to music unless I genuinely liked it.

[@Diogolindir]

I think I remember when I disliked the black metal sound. To be honest I tend to like "better produced" music but suddenly the sound just made sense to me.

[@sithmasterkiller]

I grew up with Old school death metal and Black Metal in the 90’s ! For me both genres where very important and I still enjoy them today!! Great content Boris !

[@zbox6420]

If you liked death metal in the 90s your not a real black metaller

[@nuhh7403]

​@@zbox6420shut up, gatekeeping cringe boy

[@supernoah0593]

​@@zbox6420 please provide more cringe, cringemeister

[@loupnoir7924]

BLACK METAL gave me a lot more self-confidence than any other metal genre. The other genres of metal closed my mind to many things that I would never have discovered without BLACK METAL. I fuck all people who comments me because I worship BLACK METAL, this true Music of Nature 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤Black metal gave me a lot more self-confidence than any other metal genre. The other genres of metal closed my mind to many things that I would never have discovered without black metal. BLACK METAL IS NOT FOR EVERYONE. 🐺🖤

[@comesect]

Yeah, Ive watched one of his vids, I remember stopping before it ended and being like never again....black metal is interesting to me for a gut full of reasons, one particular thing about it is how one must have a sense of humor.

[@fuzz668]

Lmao @17:03 "wtf is this" left my mouth the same time as you 🤣🤣🤣

[@eclat4641]

Lol

[@Canoweissmon]

mommy

[@DelusionalReality1914]

Lmfaoo wtf kinda black metal was this guy listening to

[@Darksigilprod666]

Being a BM artist or musician myself, I personally enjoy the DIY aesthetic to the genre and the raw counterculture quality it presents itself with. But again, not everything is meant for everyone.

[@Mattis_FH]

I'm norwegian and grew up with Dimmu Borgir and Satyricon as my main bands in my youth. Been on and off black metal through the 2000's, but now it's my main shit again, by far, with doom and sludge. I would say that black metal has never been better and more creative and fresh as it is these days. I got *counting*... 42 BM bands that have put out music between 2018 and now, that I have in my rotation and they range from more old school to modern, atmospheric black metal. It's the purest form of emotion and musically it has this genuine and creative vibe that few other genres have these days. Most importantly; black metal anno 2024 is as far from boring as it could be. Edit: Fuck, you're the guy behind Tryglav?! Fuckin' awesome. Eller. Innafor som vi sier her. 🤘❤️👍 Heh; yeah, you're in my rotation. Love The Ritual.

[@tdtm82]

Check out Zeke. They rule.

[@ShowerOnceYearly]

There's so many good black metal and death metal bands that I'll forget a song I really like and rediscover it. (unless I own it as an mp3 or on a physical copy)

[@sunolili862]

Two angels on my shoulders the nice one is Boris saying punk rock mba is stuck in the past and the other is wyattxhim who is mean and wants to call him a bitch

[@numbv01d43]

Finn is a corporate shill that just talks to hear his own voice half the time. He's full of bad takes and bad information, I started ignoring his content long ago

[@Suburbannite]

do you mind explaining what corporate shill means in the context of Finn McKenty. I can tell you're a pretty brilliant individual, i'd like to hear more of your opinion

[@dcfromthev]

Love black, death, metalcore, hardcore - all that shit. Probably why I'm really into modern deathcore these days, many of the bands have a little of everything.

[@LokiTricksterG]

The problem with Finn's video is that he implies people only like black metal for the marketing/image of the scene, rather than the music itself. That's blatantly untrue, and unless you're a high schooler, most music fans don't care about fitting into a "scene". The reality is, black metal is popular because the music is creative, atmospheric, varied, and constantly evolving. Darkthrone, Agalloch, and Blut Aus Nord would all loosely be categorized as black metal, but none of them sound remotely similar. Finn's point about black metal bands being copycats is absurd. Does anyone listen to a band like Panopticon and think they're trying to copy Burzum? No.

[@yourfavoritenetcitizen6525]

Black metal is underated. Theres so many bands besides mayhem that sound different.

[@aaronmartinez5029]

& people think it’s all satanic but honestly, it’s not true. The lyrics can be very powerful if they can just pay attention to it

[@Shaggy2Swaggy]

@@aaronmartinez5029strangely enough Christian black metal is a thing

[@Sumoniggro]

Well of course all the pioneering bands of the second wave and post second wave era like Satyricon, Darkthrone, immortal, Old school Dimmu Borgir, the summoning, dissection, Samael, old school behemoth, burzum mayhem, bathory, Marduk, 1349, gorgoroth (to a lesser extent in my opinion) etc.

[@richardcarritt5126]

@@aaronmartinez5029 well they don't get that when they burned those Churches a true Christian couldn't care less as Jesus taught that the Church is in your heart. :P pointless exercise in the end haha

[@Nasseinwonderland]

Agree. Also territorial nuances are spottable with bands from certain regions/countries. More volatile than some people assume

[@Anthony-u3f2n]

So that's why Emperor is a fantastic black metal band. The stories they tell and the way Ishan writes his music is amazing. Very few have the ability to write and play their music very talented individual. .

[@thisisnotmyrealname6990]

Havohej is a side project of the drummer and vocalist of profanatica for those that don’t know.

[@ctiradperunovic]

I more or less agree almost with everything, but the guy in the original video forgot to mention very important fact that accompanies black metal almost from the beginning - a reference to our original pre-christian cultures and paganism and the resulting opposition to christianity and other authoritarian religions. Of course, not all black metal bands are like that, but it is a fundamental fact that is inextricably linked to black metal. A lot of people who return to their roots do so through black metal as well.

[@aaronmartinez5029]

This was exactly why Varg burned down those churches

[@HeathenDance]

@@aaronmartinez5029 Ironically, in the Pagan Days, Varg would have been sentenced to death for killing Euronymous.

[@PikeBishop1]

I don't know much about BM, but it's interesting people focus on one apparent guy who murdered someone(?) when rappers, especially trap, LITERALLY brag about real life murders in their music. Multiple rappers are proven serial killers.

[@Shaggy2Swaggy]

@@PikeBishop1the ppl who hate on bm are the same ppl who like king von (dude literally mocks ppl he’s killed in his songs)

[@Sumoniggro]

The reason the lable trve kvlt exists

[@madmkt]

he didnt mention at all that we all are in it for the atmosphere and romanticism. therefore he failed with his attempt... it seems as if he is using music only to push whatever his agenda is while most of us are in it for the music..

[@METALSCAVENGER78]

That' s because he is a poser, clueless, arrogant, full of himself, smug piece of turd

[@tudorevi]

Satyricon shared the stage this weekend with Korn in Sibiu, Romania, a day apart, true, but still, quite a match.

[@loupnoir7924]

Black metal is not for everyone 🖤🐺

[@avinashthamal]

This guy is basically another Rick Beato yelling at clouds. Best to ignore and keep listening to whatever genre that moves you.

[@PinkDesertEagle]

Saying black metal is boring is crazy to me. You just don't get it!

[@frokenkanin]

I had a crush on a guy that listened to BM when I was 15, like 25 years ago.. Just wanted to look up those bands a few years ago and this time I don't need to pretend I like it. Certain music just makes me cry, it's thats good! I don't really have anyone to enjoy the music with, but at least my husband will travel with me to another country this autumn so I can go see my favourite band (also just my second BM show). So far, I found BM fans welcoming and friendly!

[@garrettbryan2717]

I blocked Finn. I can’t take his shit anymore.

[@blackMetalPiano]

There are many reasons why people will never understand the wonder of Black Metal.

[@andersoncubillos]

As Ihsahn says when a fan base demmand from him black metal or new Emperor material: He was bored of doing the same and he started to experiment and cross the limits of the genre. He wants to keep the spirit of doing something challenging as he did when he started with Emperor.

[@erykdudka6820]

There's no fucking way Finn doesn't fuck with Dissection or Emperor

[@innerworld2279]

Black metal is art thats why he cant get it . Look at him , he is like a tv commercial .

[@Gionili-gk2sk]

"Art" BWAHAHAHAHA

[@PhilosophicalDrummer]

For me black metal isnt about gatekeeping or elitism, its like a meditation and a spiritual journey. And I play and listen to metal since i am a kid. I discovered the lands of Black metal just recently by having a slap and crush for Akhlys. I loved it. So i guess i got into black metal for its music and not for politics, drama or stuff like that. Which is the best. I am pretty picky since i havent found stuff as crazy and impacting as Akhlys tho i found other amazing stuff i would say i am quite into atmospheric black metal.

[@johnbenedictxviii]

It's pretty funny how he trashes black metal for having a gatekeeper mentality, meanwhile he's involved with a music scene that's notorious for turning against bands that slightly change up their sound (e.g. see how the punk scene reacted to Black Flag's "My War" and TSOL's "Beneath the Shadows")

[@ebrietasbiscuit]

I’ve been a punk rocker for 30 years and honestly not a huge PR MBA fan or metal fan. But I’m going to sub to watch your videos. Oi!

[@rebelsatyr5362]

Black metal is def not for everyone and that's perfectly ok

[@jamesriley72281]

I was at Fortress Fest this year and the crowd/scene was a group of the coolest most welcoming folks you'd ever meet.

[@johanzuidema353]

pff i dont care, i just listen to what i like. That goes from Mayhem to Sisters of mercy. True or not, I just dont give a fuck.

[@JediCrackSmoke]

I was pleasantly surprised by how fair, logically consistent, and mature your reaction was to the video. It says a lot about your character. Great job.

[@user-pd6eb8ez2n]

The bands he lists as examples he's listening to is WILD lmao

[@zzzzzzz080]

Abruptum ain't bad at all, de profundus I enjoyed

[@incitatus953]

That Aäkon Këëtrëh record is incredible. Kinda weird of a black metal musician to knock something like that down..

[@ConnorBailey-i5l]

Been really getting into Black Metal over the year and im very greatful it exists. Music isn't one thing it simply happens and will always be here. Call it good or bad it doesnt matter people wanted to make it and they made it.

[@ppnats]

The guy is stuck in “the past” or whatever his research led him to. There’s little talk about the music and dismissed as boring. Anyone can dismiss anything as “boring” if you do not understand it. Oh well. Nice Vid Reaction.

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

It's so weird that for other genres, he at least lists off some elements of the music (how metalcore stole at the gates riffs and emphasized breakdowns, or how death metal used low growls, tremolo picking and interesting blast beats), but for this video he says nothing. No mention of tremolo picked intense, hypnotic, melancholic, or uplifting melodies... no mention of the european folk influence and actual use of folk instruments sometimes... no mention of banshee shrieks or hate forest orc vocals... no mention of primitive drumming... Just the production... *sigh*

[@incitatus953]

Yet Boris dismissed Aäkon Këëtrëh because he doesn't understand it. "You could record something like that in 5 min" Literally the take of someone listening to black metal for the first time.

[@Diogolindir]

I started to like some black metal when I started to related it to some sort of dark fantasy because Im a nerd. I have a soft spot for Dungeon Synth as well.

[@Anotherfloydinthewall]

I’m 59 now, my band just progressed into BM in the late 80’s. It was an amazing experience as evolved darker and deeper.

[@BREAKINGMAD-tk9cc]

Whats the name

[@jamesriley72281]

Also, I had hoped he would talk about how black metal has had a massive influence across all modern genres of metal. There's so much black metal sound in deathcore for example. You hear tremelo picking parts, high shrieking vocals, etc in all of that. This is discussed enough IMO.

[@loupnoir7924]

Black metal is not for everyone 🖤🐺🖤🐺

[@reeteereetee3636]

Cmon bro don’t be cringe

[@rainforest9209]

​@@reeteereetee3636not everyone likes it, it's not for everyone. Not cringe just true lmao it was made this way

[@aaronmartinez5029]

@@reeteereetee3636It’s true; most “metalheads” don’t listen to black metal.

[@HeathenDance]

@@aaronmartinez5029 Dude, REAL metalheads listen to bands from all the subgenres. And in many cases, it's a fusion of several.

[@fatkiller1000]

@aaronmartinez5029 Get a load of this guy. Brother you don't even listen to anything other than black metal how are you gonna criticize anyone else? There's more chances I'll catch a thrasher listening to hair metal than I'll catch you listening to anything at all.

[@Bembelrocker]

Great to see that adult former Black Metal elitists agree on a simple fact. It was great feeling superior in our youth, trying to live the cult. I can laugh very hard about my former self and still love the good old stuff.

[@heimdall9095]

Oh shit so true😂 I everytime said Dimmu is bullshit but at home i listen a lot to them😂

[@uszatrdyx]

Summer is great. I can have more rehearsals with my band, get a job (I'm at uni rn), sit at home, drink cold drinks and play some games like Bloodborne (amazing game)

[@borist.]

souls game fan here too 🤪

[@andrzejdarek6989]

11:06 It's not Absurd, it's two Polish bands Honor and Graveland on the "Raiders of Revenge" split from 2000.

[@frozenkingdomBM14]

All great bands

[@ashleymarsden8676]

So he criticises NSBM then names two LLN bands as his favourites. Numpty

[@glotznichso4732]

I love the sound of black metal and the dark mystic atmosphere which comes from - thats all. go on with your shit boris and gg to 100k ;).

[@user-ro8iw4ru4r]

As someone who’s not super familiar with your channel but is a big fan of the punk rock mba, you’re such a cool guy. I appreciate how intelligent, respectful and knowledgeable you are. Time to binge your catalog my dude! Cheers!!

[@wolfcreeksparx5650]

I would like to see you make a video of your top 10 or even 5 black metal bands and the reasons why

[@christianforbes-so3zl]

Back in the 90s metalcore meant bands like Converge, Dillinger Escape Plan, Bbtch and Cave-In. In the 2000s metalcore went down a dark path.

[@gustavoflores6583]

tengo 54 años y hasta la fecha el Black Metal para mí sigue siendo tan divertido como en los años 80. Si ese tipo no tiene oídos que no oiga, que escuche cosas simples y que no hable.... Me gusta tu contenido Boris Saludos desde Buenos Aires

[@jamesaddison665]

I think that part of the appeal in the early days (for me the late 80s and early 90s) was that you had to work to find your way into it. You could buy a Morbid Angel album in pretty much any music store. Black Metal felt like you'd found a secret door into something a bit hidden and exciting. You'd eagerly hunt for tapes and faded photocopies of fanzines. Weirdly, part of the appeal was that pretty much everyone...even people who listened to death metal...HATED it. Black metal was the darkest corner of the basement of the metal scene.

[@borist.]

Man, I loved the excitement of finding new bands randomly. I don't know how much money I threw at bands I didn't know anything about besides the genre they were playing. I consider myself lucky to have been able to experience what waiting in front of a store felt like. Damn, I miss those times.

[@jamesaddison665]

@@borist. I laugh now, but I bought the first Impaled Nazarene album (on vinyl...I'm that old) pretty much because I thought the band name was cool and Finland seemed even more like a place for crazy guys in the woods than Norway. It took weeks to arrive and, when I got it, I played it again and again all day. My friends who liked heavy music thought it was just 'shitty noise' but, to my ears, it's was exhilarating and almost unsettling. Like smelling salts for the ears.

[@HeathenDance]

Black Metal was not and never was the darkest corner of the metal scene, in most cases. It was the most DRAMATIC, when it comes to both sound and aesthetics. Death Metal takes the cake of darkness, but by a mile. The sound is a lot more powerful, cold, , without emo-melancholic moments, and you have songs speaking about people being brutally murdered, tortured or r*ped. Even identifying the Human Race in general as an inferior species lol. And there are also Satanic Death Metal bands, like Deicide and Vader, whose lyrics are extremely and explicitly violent regarding how they praise Jesus choking to death on his blood, and smashing the face of Jewish God, etc. If your concept of "Darkness" is being mellow, dramatic and melancholic, there's a ton load of bands and artists outside Metal in general, which do it in a more deep manner than most Black Metal.

[@jamesaddison665]

@@HeathenDance I respect your view. I am just saying what it sounded like to me as a rural 16 year old English kid back in the early 90s. Back then...to me...Death metal was becoming pretty generic. Most of it was in the two sound camps of Sunlight Studios (Entombed, Vader etc) or Morrisound (Obituary, Morbid Angel). There were some bands outside of this, like Autopsy that had a raw sound that I still liked. In a time before the internet, Black metal sounded more underground and authentic. It didn't stay that way for long, but for a year or two before it blew up in the press, it was great.

[@HeathenDance]

@@jamesaddison665 That's cool, I like both genres, have tons of albums from bands from those domains, and to be honest, in my opinion, some bands are just impossible to categorize. But I just wanted to state that the "Black Metal is the Evilest corner of Metal/Music" is simply not true. The murders, church burnings and suicides of the Scandinavian scene simply worked as great marketing.

[@loompy1440]

Finn rubs a lot of people the wrong way, but I’ve learned a lot of interesting things about music and art from him. The inner hater in me enjoys the slight trolling he does to create engagement and trigger the overly serious fans in his comments. At the end of the day a KZbinr is an entertainer. He definitely has a lot of opinions and takes that I don’t agree with, but I respect him and can still see his value in the internet extreme music space. I like almost all types of metal personally. There’s usually something good if you look hard enough and invest a little time to find the artists that do appeal to you. (nerds larping can make amazing art too)

[@Alex-vm6ef]

I was a big fan of underground rap, various genres of instrumental and ambient music, and lots of electronic music. As my friends tried to get me into death metal, metalcore, and real techie bands I ended up getting into black metal far more than I like the prior genres.

[@GothicXlightning]

Got to love that Twitchy XENOMORPH shilling in the background yeah Doom metal man has spoken

[@erikdee3032]

Good video. I enjoyed both sides. The first 2 Venom albums were incredible. Bathory from inception to Valhalla. I like Cradle, Dimmu, and satyricon. Love the dark throne and mayhem. Like the black noise and experimental.

[@toddmorse8972]

I wish our summer was like that

[@bluecollarmetal7]

You gotta understand that finn is old, he probably remembers black metal how it was back then.

[@RobHellfire666]

So.... He trys to redeem himself for trashing black metal by claiming to "likes black metal" then goes on to give examples of bands which are not really bkack metal as his "favorites".... OhhhhKay........ 🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

[@tattered.andtorn]

i grew up with a lot of nu and thrash metal, so theyre my favorites (and slam ofc), but I've recently gotten more into black metal. it's one of my favorite genres of metal atm

[@PrimetimeBJJ]

I hate how people believe that because I enjoy black metal that I actually worship Satan because I wholeheartedly do not. The same way that I listen to rap and do no gang bang or sell drugs.

[@TheJollyMisanthrope]

Satanism in metal, especially in the 80's, had a lot more to do with being provocative than it had to do with people actually practicing any sort of ideology or religion. I would say a lot of these artists are either pagans or atheists.

[@Composery]

If we're talking about avant garde black metal, Ihsahn is the king. Also, Igorrr has both elements in their music

[@infernalcapricorn]

This guy is basically saying nothing.

[@brqh3gre]

Finn only knows what he's talking about half the time. The rest of the time he's having really ignorant takes on music genres that he hardly knows anything about

[@jamespamplin3369]

Grew up reading about it on Wikipedia? Damn I feel old. I grew up reading about it in Kerrang before there was an internet!

[@borist.]

Me on metal hammer,metal maniac,metal shock etc lol. didnt have internet till 19 but i dont know why i had wikipedia in my head when i said that.😂

[@tommyf6576]

LOL I love how he cited LLN bands from mid 90s France that he loves...

[@incitatus953]

Aäkon Këëtrëh is fkn great though.

[@disliked1390]

He had a good thing going before dropping the ball so bad.

[@scottyoung4590]

Finn lost me when he shit on black metal and tells me to listen to Cardi B

[@Biomancy]

I feel like Cradle of Filth is a good example of a band black metal elitists don't like

[@StareIntoTheSun]

How can you still see like/dislike ratio? They removed the dislike number years ago.

[@imgoingtogreeenout6941]

A Firefox extension call return youtube dislikes

[@Devinbug]

Rlly like your personality loved his video as well but i love how u take all the criticism about the genre you love very passively and understanding great video! (I myself do like black metal)

[@MrLordjonathan]

Xasthur !

[@jackwhiteakajoker9394]

I'm more of a metalcore guy but I respect black metal fans all the way

[@LicoriceLain]

@@s3am999 Extremely fun to see in person. Core bands may be an acquired taste as far as records go, but in terms of shows, they are very high energy and satisfying.

[@eclat4641]

It’s great to like lots of genres… It’s good you respect.

[@jackwhiteakajoker9394]

@@s3am999 the music has the harsh vocals of black and death metal but combinme that with singing that is the reason i respect black and death

[@Ixe2077]

​@@LicoriceLain I can agree. I'm not exactly a metalcore fan, if anything I've hated on it more than I've listened to it, but I have managed to watch a live metalcore show and it was quite fun.

[@japre8]

Randomly came across this reaction video on my feed. Went and checked out your band, yall got a new fan here. Keep putting out content!

[@dakotaturner6701]

Ah yes nazi bad because punk rock has no nazi bands at all right

[@myrasherrill777]

So true!! But people have always looked past bad things in their own genre yet make it a main point in someone else’s

[@Sumoniggro]

If anything it shows how similar punk and black metal are at their driving attitudes, also to hold Finn to his standards Nazi punk and Nazi black metal are technically the Pinnacle of the contraian and anti-conformist spirit that were the impetus of the creation of the genres.

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

​@@Sumoniggro As for nazi music being the peak of contrarianism and contrarianism, no. That is a myth I wish people would stop spreading, because n*zism is not the most dangerous thing to society. I would say a band like G.G. Allin & the Murder Junkies or G.I.S.M. that espouse pure nihilistic violence, disgusting dangerous anti-social behaviors, and nasty bitter vitriol are the purest expression of that spirit. Having a political ideology in the first place makes you conform to the rules of society (you just want different rules, but same system of living). Pure anti-contrarianism is rejecting civilization and anything that binds you to so-called decency or morals In this sense, a lot of war metal/bestial black metal expresses the rebellious ideology of black metal way better than NSBM. Because those bands are all about pure feral rejection and the triumph of the individual against the world

[@TheJollyMisanthrope]

It's full of commies, which isn't any better.

[@scoiattolosabbioso4420]

Let's be real here... they are not tolerated in punk so it's not the same, you can't really compare it. There are nazis everywhere tho

[@GHOST-iw3yb]

C'monnnnn, No Killswitch Engage? I love black metal but I love many other genres too

[@ars3nic.3xe]

it kind of feels like the guy just reddit searched "really underground black metal no one knows" and used that to say he liked 4 bands... :,,)

[@plantifulalexandra]

Reading about the whole Norwegian drama today is kinda funny, it's so cringe and they were all just kids. I still feel sorry for Dead, he just needed some people who actually cared and therapy, not people who basically cheered for him killing himself. He could've had a good life, so sad he threw it away.

[@Agostoic]

Spot on.

[@notyaboi2781]

Punk Rock MBA is if wikipedia was a poser. Cant stand this dude and the amount of misinformation he spews.

[@sisterhoney61]

I can't stand him, either! He just rambles on and on about stuff he absolutely knows nothing about.

[@AdrasteiaMJimenez_37]

Totally agree

[@HeathenDance]

And yet you know so much about him.

[@notyaboi2781]

​@@HeathenDanceSimple research goes a long way. You should try it sometime instead of being ignorant, you have access to the internet.

[@WolfAngelChaos]

agreed