BLACK POWDER 38 SPECIAL LOAD "120 YEARS OLD" (Greatest Cartridge On Earth)

38 Special, Black Powder. "the Original" Accurate, Fun, and Historic! Gun Powder = Gun Smoke. Loading and shooting black powder for the 38 special with cast lead powder coated bullets. And for an encore I load up some 9mm with black powder and shoot em from my Glock 19.

[@billwessels207]

FFG is rifle powder. FFFG is pistol powder. FFFFG is priming powder (primarily used for flintlock primer.) The best black powder available today is Swiss. In the old days there were many to choose from. Some made their own out of preference or necessity. 44-40 was one of the earliest bottleneck cartridges and had the advantage over straight wall cases in that the neck would expand after the powder exploded thereby effectively sealing the chamber rearward and preventing most blow by of dirty gases into the rest of the firearm. This was more important for lever action rifles to keep them functioning. Great video. Keep up the good work.

[@independentthinker8930]

2 f is for rifles, 50 cal and up. I have used 2f in my 32 in a pinch but requires larger load by volume

[@heyyouyayou7933]

i just fired my 32 REM no.2 with ff no problem

[@rayst.2934]

I use a fired case as a Dipper , I pour in a volume of powder . allowing for the bullet to seat at proper depth. I then cut the remaining brass off where I marked the powder line . this way I have a dipper of the right amount of powder for every case

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

elvis ammo -- Outstanding video..!! I gotta git me some of that thar black powder..!! Black powder and powder coated bullets - we've come full circle.. FC Steve

[@MrPanchoak]

Stainless revolvers work pretty well with Black. They don't rust easily, and they clean up really easily. I have a stainless Ruger old army. After shooting it I just remove the grips and cylinder. And wipe the loading arm, cylinder pin, and the ram. Then simply put the cylinder and revolver into the dishwasher. It comes out sparkling and clean.

[@johnndavis7647]

Thanks for the video elvis, Bp likes to be compressed about a 1/16. Best to fill the case to the base of the bullet then put a 1/16 hard wad over the powder then seat the bullet. You should feel a little crunch when you seat the bullet. Some folks use a separate compression die but you dont really need it in revolver cartridges. You might be surprised at how well and consistantly it shoots. John davis

[@LoadsofBacon]

Great video brother! I made a note just last night that I need to load up some 38 and 44s with black powder. A good load for the indoor range...

[@elvisammo]

Loads of Bacon ...Especially Great For Indoor Ranges..... ! ; ) Awesome Idea...

[@quickhandluke.387]

That’s awesome I love the smoke rings it makes. Definitely considering this.

[@thompsonjerry3412]

4 f is only used as pan priming powder.

[@mkshffr4936]

An interesting load would be a HBWC on top of fffg in a .357 case.

[@zing913945]

Great video and very good advice. I was told a good reason to lightly compact a black powder cartridge is to keep it from settling on its own and creating its own air gap and potential problems Clean up is a chore that goes with the territory ! Great fun !

[@russellkeeling4387]

No problem arises if there is an air space in the cartridge. I don't believe it's possible to pack enough powder in a 38 case to overpressure the firearm.

[@kirkboswell2575]

Hey, Elvis! Hello again. Glad to see you exploring possibilities. 😁 You have a basic understanding of black powder. 1F, 1.5F, 2F, 3F, & 4F. 4F is the finest granules, and reserved for either priming of a flintlock, or the smallest cases. 1F is generally considered cannon granulation. (small cannons). 2F is generally considered a good choice for shotgunning, and large bore rifles, and 3F is the nominal granulation for pistol cartridges. (some overlap allowed) Drop tubes (30 to 60 inches) were used to load cases - better compaction of the powder without compression. You can get up to 5grains more powder into a case using drop tubes. Plus, the old balloon head cases would hold about 5 grains more than modern web head cases. (for a total of 10 grains more powder than most modern Reloaders normally load into BP cases) The English with their 303 (first runs) not only used drop tubes, but ALSO compressed the black powder and managed to get 80 grains of black powder into the 303 case. Try that now, and see how far you can get........if you manage 60 grains, I'll call you "good"........ DEFINITELY avoid ANY air space between powder and bullet. Air space can allow explosive detonation - enough to bulge the barrel of even a modern rifle. Fill that space somehow (kapok, cotton, corn meal, additional powder, whatever). Even though it was black powder, most pistol cartridges attained a speed of 700 - 900 fps - with the old 32's near the 700 mark and the old 45's near the 900 mark. Rifles could get up to 2000 fps, but typically had to be "tweeked" to achieve that. (specific lube or paper patching or etc) Lubrication was the BIGGEST key to successfully using black powder - and still is. Good lubrication not only gives you the best performance shot to shot, but also allows for sustained shooting. If you can't shoot six cylinders in a revolver WITHOUT any drag or binding or issues, then your lubricant simply isn't good enough. In case you haven't already figured it out, I cut my teeth on black powder, and I still have a love affair with it. Don't get me wrong - I love modern powders also, but what is it that they say??? "you never forget your first love"???

[@elvisammo]

Kirk Boswell ....hey there! man.. people say I inspired them to do this and that... And other times I read comments like this and I'm inspired! I love everything to do with powder and ammo... the zillion possibilities. .. But I can see bp. with a rich history and so many possibilities being a love. Firing a shot has a completely different sound and felt recoil! The history, The versatility. Of black powder! what's not to love! thanks for info, the history, and the inspiration! you alright! ; )

[@thomasherbert5790]

Loaded 44 mag. several years ago , a 240gr. hard cast with FFg . With a 1/16 th " compressed powder charge . The accuracy was great

[@grounds28]

that was absolutely awesome Elvis

[@elvisammo]

thanks grounds28 ... I really enjoyed it myself! Fun Smoke....: )

[@badgerrrlattin35]

During the great switch over from Black powder to smokeless around the turn of the century, revolvers, it seems were given short shrift. The brand spanking new 9mm Parabelum was always loaded with smokeless. It HAD to be. Can you imagine keeping an automatic action running using that filthy old black powder? So well into the 20th Century we had 32....38.....44....45 Revolvers running on the same fuel that powered the gunfight at the OK corral and the Alamo fight.

[@bunkstagner298]

noy filthy just heavy fouling

[@eqlzr2]

Viewers should be aware that black powder charges are measured by volume and not by weight as you are doing here with your scale. I think you're doing it for convenience sake, and your weight measurement ends up giving you about the right volume of black powder so your bullet when seated will slightly compress the charge. Just a fine point. Thanks for your vid.

[@ironmatic1]

Black powder *SUBSTITUTES* are measured by the volume of a given amount (by weight, that’s why it says grains, a measure of weight) of real gunpowder.

[@PS-rr2jt]

@@ironmatic1 Exactly. The perpetuation of the misconception that BP “is measured by volume” is a persistent one. Nearly all metallic cartridges (BP or smokeless) are filled volumetrically, but the charge is based on weight, the “grain”. All one has to do is look up pictures of original boxes of BP cartridges. It says right on most of the boxes how many grains of BP they are charged with. As has been pointed out, the important thing to ensure is that there’s no air gap between the powder and bullet when using black powder. Compressed loads ensured that no powder settling can create air gaps. When BP substitutes came around, that’s when things got confusing. Pyrodex is only equivalent to black powder by volume, not weight, as you said. So you put the BP substitute confusion and mix that with the lack of understanding of how propellant charges are determined/vs how the cases are actually filled and we get this common misconception that BP is only to be measured by volume.

[@CmaxArms]

Very cool......I did not realize that it was originally black powder....thanks Elvis!

[@elvisammo]

Cmax Arms .... how much fun can one cartridge give us!!!! ; ) a real multi tool!! ; ) thanks!

[@bunkstagner298]

For your information since Gunpowder is made from stable chemicals, a long as it is kept dry, it will last indefinitely and not deteriorate at all. And "Gunpowder" is what DuPont called it and they had been making it since 1802 and should know what to call it. Gunpowder and Blasting powder same stuff different granulation.

[@nolanwalmsley4216]

Make sure you measure black powder by volume rather than weight if you ever load any more of these Elvis Ammo

[@USAACbrat]

@J H Single action, cartridge conversions are not weak actions, just old style. I am just searching for loads with 4x powder.

[@PS-rr2jt]

This is a common misconception. Original metallic cartridges loaded with black powder were absolutely based on the grain weight of the charge. Look at pictures of the old boxes they came in. I saw a box of old BP 38 special and it said right on the box “21 grains” of powder. 44-40, 45-70, 56-50...it says the grain weight of the powder right in the name. Grains are a measurement of weight, not volume. Muzzleloader are typically charged volumetrically with a horn or flask and powder measure, but that volume is based on a grain weight equivalent. It would be awkward to try to weigh a charge in the field, which is why the equivalent volume was calculated. Part of the confusion started when Pyrodex substitute came along. Pyrodex is not black powder and it has different burn characteristics, so it’s not equivalent to black powder by weight, but was made to be equivalent by volume. Therefore, you measure Pyrodex with the same volumetric measure as your normal BP charge. Anyway, the important thing to remember here is, regardless of the charge you load, make sure there aren’t any air gaps between the powder and bullet. This is the reason people use fillers like cream of wheat, to take up that air gap.

[@jamjinn786]

@@PS-rr2jt Thanks for debunking that old myth!

[@woodrowbrimm2805]

Cowboy Action Loads are sometimes loaded with Black Powder and Smokeless Loads are also made kept to Black Powder Specs. for Original and Cart. Conversion Replicas .

[@johnscarfe]

Hey Elvis, some great information here, like your videos a lot. You are my go-to guy on powder coating and have helped me get comfortable with the process. I think you might have been thinking of Buffalo Arms for 38 special black powder. They are well versed on the subject of black powder supplies, and are seeing their suppliers slowly recovering from the flu shortage. Keep on keeping on 😁👍🏻

[@jeffersondavis2530]

Black powder is inherently accurate and your groups didn't surprise me . Neither did the cleanup !!!!!!. Great fun .

[@G56AG]

This was mentioned previously by Bill Wessels but it bears repeating, FFg is rifle powder, FFFg is pistol powder.

[@mkshffr4936]

But it isn't hard and fast rule. You can use 2f in pistols it just might have lower velocity. Have also seen people use 3f in rifle cartridges without issue.

[@rayfoster6980]

My brother had a Ruger Old Army in stainless. He shot it a lot, after a days shooting he’d take it apart and run it through the dishwasher.

[@USAACbrat]

A quick spray with Windex with ammonia at the range will deal with the corrosive effects of black powder, so will 2 rds of smokeless.

[@littlewolf5485]

elvis you should also lube size those PC'd boolits with bore butter it will greatly reduce the corozion from sticking as will coating the metal parts with straight-up DAWN dish soap. i mean if coating the outside of campfire cooking pots with dawn will make all that cooking soot slick right off. i grew up shooting traditional muzzle loaders and to clean those you take the stock off put the breech of the barrel in a bucket of hot water with a drizzle of dawn dish soap patch the ram rod and piston that up and down the bore untill the water out of the nipple isnt black and the coton patch is white. then when the barrel is dried slick a patch with dawn and run that one lap through the bore so there is a light film in the bore before the next shoot. i know it's been said many many times black is measured by volume not weight, i tested this with a brass volume measure set at 70gr then poured that into my C&H beam scale and dang if it didnt scale at 71.3gr i did this 25 seperate times at 70gr 60gr 30gr and 20gr, each volume was within 3gr weight of the volume increment. Bless the Holy Black

[@DenverLoveless]

BP residue looks messy as hell, but is a snap to clean up. You don't have to use solvents and cleaners or non of that crap. Just wash it with soapy water, dry everything off good and oil it and Done. I've been shooting BP cartridges out of my Colt 45 single action for years and I don't have any problems with rust or corrosion of any kind. The trick is like you said, you must clean it ASAP today.

[@elvisammo]

hey there TheOkWoodsman..... Thanks for Chiming in! I tend to waste a bunch of solvent... Think i'll do soap and water next time! Thanks for watching!

[@nickjm37fordel1]

FC would be proud of you !!

[@elvisammo]

hey Nick J ... yep... I bet he will! : ) Im sure he'll check this out! Lots of fun to be had reloading ammo.....

[@joshwideman7487]

Hey EA. Im not sure if realise or not but black powder is always mmeasured by volume NOT weight. I know you are just filling the case in this instance but that is an important diff. between black and smokeless. Also you should only use 2ff or 3fff, never 4ffff. It is used ONLY for priming flintlocks. Pressure spikes can occur. 25+ years shooting black powder. Just some FYI my freind.

[@vengenaceearly255]

Nice shootin. Tip of the day 10 parts water to 1 part ballistol in a spray bottle. Then spray the heck out of it -- I would take the grips off too. And spray that too. Then just let it sit awhile to neutralize that corrosion.

[@elvisammo]

hey Vengenace Early...yeah .. great tip! I went at it hard with Rem Oil! Soaked then cleaned like crazy! You get your Gun money yet? : )

[@vengenaceearly255]

May 23 thats the closing date. Been talkin' to FC45LC about what Colt .45 to buy. My head says Blackhawk in a Barrel Length: 4.62. My heart says old west- Taylors & Company tuned Smoke Wagon Deluxe in a 4 3/ 4 inch barrel. The 45 - 70 government is going to be a full 26 inch barrel 8 shot true 1886 John Browning reproduction from Cimarron Firearms -- I know you know what that is all about - no need to go into any more details there. :) One day I hope to get up there where you live so we can load a few black powder rounds for the 45 - 70 and she how she does. : )

[@charlesirby9222]

"A little History forya Elvis"...Black powder gunfights are where the first 'referee's' were used in the Indian wars...Some fool would run out there in the smoke and holler..."Time out! We cain't seeya!" About then some Indian would plug him with a broadhead and holler back..."Stupid white eyes, we don't use no smoke in our arrows!".. :) I enjoyed it, now get to cleaning!

[@elvisammo]

Charles Irby That's a funny story and good history. .. Seems nobody ever learns from history these days! And get to cleaning I did!!!! ; )

[@tomcook5813]

Might be fun to have a few jars with candy in them 😂 Thank you for the info

[@steelpunisher6944]

Hey Elvis! It sure is dirty fun but you gotta love the history behind it. The old cowboy loads are a blast from the past! I've yet to try it in my .45 colt. But seeing that .... you talked me into it. Lol. Great video bud

[@elvisammo]

Steel Punisher 69 Kinda like playing in the mud... But for Grown ups!.. ; )

[@Last-Varangian]

Black is fun stuff! I find my Ruger SB 44MAG doesn't tolerate much of it though, and even less when using Pyrodex, not making it through an entire cylinder before locking up from the fouling. "Looser" fitted guns will work longer using it, before needing a dunking in water at least to keep it going. One case where Ruger quality actually works against you! Years ago, me and a friend tried BP in his 9MM Hi-Power, and it functioned a flawlessly as it could, cycling just fine through three mags worth, which was all we had loaded. Again, a "looser" fitted gun. I was hoping for some velocity readings if possible, not having them was the only disappointment I found in this video. Thanks for the efforts.

[@thompsonjerry3412]

Black powder is an explosive and if a air gap is present it will erode the chamber or bulge it.

[@tobyemerson8595]

black powder is measured by volume. (Not Scale)

[@elvisammo]

hey toby emerson... thanks for clarifying .... I weighed it to get the same fill. Thanks for chiming in! : )

[@dsldarklordspaniard6672]

Great video, keep the black powder vids coming! its really cool to see in modern cartridges (as a guy who shoots cap and ball often). Due to the increased powder charges too, in an effort to save powder, couldnt you just seat the bullet really deep? (maybe even with the tip of the bullet flush with the case mouth) I do not know much about bullet seating, but if it is feasible, you could load some low grain charges to keep costs down. Cheers!

[@elvisammo]

DSL Dark Lord Spaniard ... Thanks! yeah I could seat deeper and use less, The other way around it would be to use less bp. and top off with filler like cream of wheat etc. Nice to have options!

[@spareiChan]

38 S&W Special, 158gr LRN wax blend lube, 21½gr FFFg BP, Balloon head case. would get about 800fps in 6" guns. This was the "standard" M&P load afaik. This load cannot be loaded in a modern case as balloon head case is required, modern case maxes about 19gr of FFFg (depending on brand) using a longggggg drop tube.

[@elvisammo]

SpareiChan .... Yep.. gotcha! thanks for that piece of info... I should have chronograph the shot. I assumed it was under 600 because the splat of lead bounced back instead of spraying all over! Thanks for info!

[@spareiChan]

I should also note, BP loads are done volumetrically not by weight. you mentioned 17gr? but used a scale. So I'm not sure of the LISTED load vs what you actually loaded. www.curtrich.com/BPConversionSheet.htm www.curtrich.com/BPConversionSheet2005.htm

[@PS-rr2jt]

@@spareiChan A “grain” is a measure of mass (weight for our purposes), not volume. Original BP metallic cartridges were absolutely charged by weight. If you look at boxes of these old cartridges, they say right on them the grain charge of BP. Heck, it’s in the name of a lot old cartridges - 45-70, 44-40, etc. The 70 and 40 is the grain weight of the BP charge. The important aspect of volume is that there should be no air gaps between the bullet and powder (typically stacked via drop tube and somewhat compacted), but that’s managed by using an appropriate weight of powder.

[@research1234]

Elvis, very much appreciate this video. I have a stainless GP-100 like yours but have never shot Black Powder (BP) 38 specials through it. I have loaded 45 colt with BP and shoot it almost exclusively in my Uberti 45 Colt Clone single action (much easier to disassemble and clean ). Just two thoughts, I don't think you are supposed to use FFFF in a cartridge, it is intended for black powder rifle flash pans, and I don't think you should be using a plastic funnel/scoop, to avoid static buildup and potential sparks. I think anyone who shoots BP will really enjoy it - it was clear you really enjoyed every aspect of it, from the stinky sulphur smell to the 'boom' and clouds of white smoke.

[@elvisammo]

hey research 1234... Good points. maybe Best to use copper or brass scoop. bowl, funnel. I hear those Uberti clones are great! thanks for the info and caution... I did however enjoy every bit of it! : ) Avoiding static and spark is a real thing!

[@jackpinejohn1216]

Haay Elvis. Great stuff. That was a real smoke wagon demo.

[@elvisammo]

hey jackpine john... Yea it was... got the gun smoke fever now! : )

[@rodneyhardee2527]

I load a lot of black powder. 38 special is the bomb. I love to load 12 gauge with bird shot. A lot of fun to shoot, About 38 grains of FFG. Great job, take care.Also have a small cannon that i love to shoot

[@elvisammo]

Hey Rodney Hardee... I like the sound of 12 gauge bp... Been wanting to make a cannon, Any suggestions? : )

[@kayeszymanski6945]

hey Elvis, I thought only Johnny's reloading was trying to blow his face off! Thanks for the video

[@elvisammo]

hey Kaye Szmanski.... trying to blow our face off is common among Johnny and Me! : ) everytime I see Johnny, The first thing I look for is missing face!🙂

[@wolfmanrebel874]

@@elvisammo at least I'm not the only one constantly thinking of new ways to blow myself up

[@mypetvelociraptor]

Good one

[@tomlodge7401]

You might wish to be using 3f for a pistol... 2f is really a larger caliber powder... :) Also, Rand CLP helps some with all the fouling and you can keep it running for a bit without it getting all sludged up... :)

[@russellkeeling4387]

What evidence might you be able to give me to support the reason for 2f to be for larger firearms.

[@peteralexben]

hey elvis a coat of carnuba wax on to the gun before shooting gives some protection ,16 grains bp is plus minus the same as 5 grain unique

[@elvisammo]

peteralexben ...good idea on the lube.. I thought about using silicone spray. . And thanks for the powder comparison. ...

[@johnkovalchick6218]

so you can shoot black powder in modern day revolvers do you have to clean the right away

[@AlanGriffith]

Thats an amazing shop you have

[@chadsleight1805]

Elvis I was put on to your channel by fortune cookie he has great videos and after watching a few of yours I think you got some great stuff also keep em coming

[@elvisammo]

Chad Sleight ... Great to have ya! I am a big Fortune Cookie fan myself. ... We owe a debt of gratitude for all the work he has done for the reloading and shooting community! Thanks for stopping by and I look forward to talking to ya in the future! Thanks for watching!

[@thompsonjerry3412]

My black powder 38 is stouter than my +p rounds.

[@h82bporgmail]

Nice!! Always great, keep it up!!

[@DC632A]

That will clean up nicely with some Ballistol. Use scotch brute on the front of the cylinder. Nice Ruger. Nice test.

[@elvisammo]

Carpe Diem thanks for the tip and Thanks for watching!

[@theophilhist6455]

Shooting black powder loads always should have some compression of round and powder. Best shooting out of a stainless steel revolver like a S& W model 64

[@joes1363]

That sure looked exciting to shoot. The BP load didn't seem like much recoil. How did it actually feel to you? Thanks again.

[@elvisammo]

no recoil! : ) yes a blast from the past though!

[@pacman10182]

3:22 you missed a chance to say "take this video with a grain of saltpeter"

[@elvisammo]

tyler roberts DANG IT MAN! WHAT THE CRAP WAS I THINKING! !! I like your thinking though! ; )

[@billwessels207]

Log onto the Cast boolits (this correct spelling) website and join the group. Share your video and check out their info and posts. Enjoy.

[@kljasla1961]

45-70 next ..... please

[@Thorsaxe777]

Now that was a video Elvis. hehe.. I believe that the smoke covered the target so you lined up every shot with the sights.. That's why you shot so tight. That's my theory. some of the best groups I fired were when it was raining so hard I couldn't see the bull clearly. anyway.. That Bullet is a keeper. Dave..

[@elvisammo]

hey Thorsaxe777.... yep the bullet is a keeper.. since the muzzle didn't move much I was able to blindly stay on target until the next peak! I think! : ) smoke loads of fun!

[@steelgila]

I read somewhere 22gns under a 150gn bullet gives 850fps.

[@BigD-jc6rj]

Great vid Elvis! Not sure if it will work with 9mm, but Hickok45 got a Glock 21 (45acp) to cycle with a full case of 4F black powder. In any case, it’s great to have options if another democrat becomes president and smokeless powders become hard to find due to panic buyers.

[@elvisammo]

Yep for sure!!!

[@SBSATS]

Now what would be a fun video is the cleaning of that pistol, lol.

[@elvisammo]

Soap and water mesh! 👍😎

[@SBSATS]

@@elvisammo most fun you ever had huh.

[@pcbulletempire9872]

I got a friend that's got a snub nose Taurus stainless steel asked me one time if he wanted me to load up some 38 special black powder thought maybe he might like the flash and the smoke and the roar he said sure and I told him I said make sure you clean your gun thoroughly after you shoot this it could be really messy he didn't he gave me the gun to clean and I just threw it in soapy bucket of water till it freed up it was locked up tight

[@elvisammo]

Timothy Robinson Oh, Fun! it's hard to believe how much of a coating builds up with bp. A soapy soak does the trick. ..; )

[@deandeann1541]

Black powder is far less corrossive than pyrodex or even triple 7. The chlorate in the pyrodex is nasty, after 3 days the inside of the barrel looks like mold is growing all over it. On the other hand, as long as you are liberal with the proper grease, real black powder is not a problem. Old Eynsford is so clean that I don't need to clean it as long as I shoot it regularly. Organic grease and regular use is I suspect how most old timers back in the eighteen hundreds used their cap and ball revolvers. I dought they were as neurotic about cleaning as people are today. Although with the black powder substitutes you have to be neurotic orthere will be pitting fairly quickly. Fortunately for them these horrible substitutes did not exist yet. Subs are the awful result of over controling regulations. Sort of like the gas cans that cause you to spill gas everywhere because they are required to be spill proof. When those came out I bought surplus jerry cans and am totally happy with them, they pour well and will last the rest of my life rather than breaking every two or three years. My state won't even allow you to buy jerry cans now, never mind what I think of that.

[@elvisammo]

Crazy isn’t it!!! 🤨

[@mikunan]

Very cool....

[@spicyage5548]

make some black powder 9mm loads

[@T.A.B.Videos]

Nice job Elvis

[@elvisammo]

treesablowin ...well thank ya! hope you're healing up nicely! God Bless. ..

[@danielsalach1234]

The best way to clean is put that gun in warm water that is the only thing that will neutralize the old powder, then lube it fast I just drop mine in some oil and let it sit overnight the pouder is not that bad at the range Ill shoot 50 rounds or more have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@dudearlo]

Can we shoot them old-school black powder only .38 special rounds in modern revolvers? Im worried about chamber pressures and barrel leading? I also i assume we clean this puppy right after range time lol with corrosive powder and all

[@l.a.3887]

Some nasty stuff man cool video

[@tdidriver1234]

Cool hat!

[@rayst.2934]

Another great video I really enjoy watching your videos especially and on Powder Coating I think I'll try that myself I shoot a lot of black powder and I was wondering if you can tell me where I can get the mold for that 162 grain bullet thanks again

[@Master...deBater]

Hey Elvis...I like to do this with my 357 mag cases...and mag primers.

[@Dutch1722]

Nice double action group.

[@elvisammo]

hey Dutch 1722... Thank ya sir... my muzzle didn't move much... stayed on target through the Smoke! : )

[@Dutch1722]

SUBSCRIBED!!!

[@elvisammo]

Thanks for your support!!! : )

[@SimonChristoff]

Hey hey... Hey.. Hey!

[@Jay-kl5ew]

Doesn't both me bout cleaning .I use a colt Walker

[@independentthinker8930]

Elephant is a nasty burning powder as black powder goes

[@wrotedog]

8:40 he not lying.

[@jamespollard3066]

Should have saved a couple of rounds for some night shooting , you had some fire balls on a few of those shots.

[@elvisammo]

James Pollard ...your giving me ideas. .... Like It!

[@jamespollard3066]

Maybe a 30 round mag of black powder 223 at night .

[@elvisammo]

hey James Pollard...now that could make a fine mess in the gas system! and you'd have to shoot it single action style....I vote for the 12 gauge Night Shoot! : )

[@jamespollard3066]

That will work too . Can't wait !

[@markchamberlain6607]

I have never bought black powder before I only make it. I don't know about FFG black powder being I've only made it. It looks like to me when you showed the consistency of it that the Potassium nitrate may not have been ground to the consistency I normally grind it so 5 or 600+ FPS with that grind is not surprising. I don't claim to know anything about the other powders you mentioned.

[@elvisammo]

Mark Chamberlain ... well that's pretty awesome. .. been wanting to make some myself. Any tips would be appreciated if ya have the time. . you could leave a message in the private message on the about page. I like the idea of making my own! thanks for watching!

[@markchamberlain6607]

Hey, Elvis, I am pretty surprised, I wasn't expecting a reply. I do have to admit something. I might know how to make my own black powder. But I have no Idea how to send a private message. I would be a little leery of posting detailed instructions in open. I don't know who reads your postings and I'd hate to be responsible for some kid injuring him or herself trying to follow my instructions.

[@elvisammo]

Mark Chamberlain...hey yeah understood. .. You sound like me. If I didn't have a youtube channel I wouldn't know either! was just curious of any tips and tricks you may have found that works best. From someone that makes it and shoots it. I have a knowledge of how its made ... Was just looking some highlights or special instructions for good success. If ya go to my home channel page you will se along the top. Home, Videos, About. click on About. .. then you will see a little block towards the top right. It says "message " click that and you can write a private message only we can see!

[@markchamberlain6607]

Hey, Elvis, I'll tell you what. I sent you a friend request on facebook. I know my way around there pretty good. I tried following your instructions again. I guess I must not be KZbin savvy enough.

[@lonewanderer3603]

Did you chronograph them at all? Can we see a 45 Colt black powder load?

[@thompsonjerry3412]

Buffalo arms is the company.

[@elvisammo]

hey Thompson Jerry... thanks for all the info and safety tips... And Thanks for watching... Buffalo Arms! Yep!

[@Kongfufrank]

do you have a table for other gauges? you can pass ?

[@RJ-sr5dv]

Hi Elvis, Just out of curiosity do you cast your own lead bullets? Handle a lot of lead perhaps? I'm not trying to be obtuse but lead toxicity is a real thing. I can say this with first hand authority.

[@somethingtrulyhorrifying]

^ He's not wrong, call me wimpy/sensitive but I definitely feel the effects after loading just 100 lead rounds, I get cold-like symptoms until the next day.

[@Tsuyoshicutelaria]

alo elvis sou do brasil !!!

[@josephlahood4647]

Buffalo Arms

[@gruntspy44]

Some Cheech and Chong loads

[@MegaBait1616]

Elvis, time to break out the Brasso and leading pads. lol..........

[@elvisammo]

yepper.. you got that right MegaBait56!

[@owsleyhunter2757]

17 gr of double f?

[@DW-uu1lz]

Just please be careful, its the difference between explosives and propellant..... I'm sure you know but it can be dangerous...

[@elvisammo]

hey d Klawbohr.... i'm glad someone is looking out for me! I will be careful....thank ya...

[@michal.abramowicz]

Hou ;) 38spec for my competition uberti 1873 ;)

[@stubhystyle]

Can anyone point me in the direction or acquiring like 20 rounds of this ammo? My father in law has a gun that needs this ammo and just wants to fire it a few times. Buying anything online hasn't been successful.

[@达闻西-o5e]

Use ffff will be easy to cycle in 9mm round.

[@elvisammo]

达闻西 ... yeah ... I'll probably try that! thank ya sir!

[@ibthumper2]

Thanks Mr Ammo, Been reloading 38spl for, well to long. Never even thought of black powder just for fun. Had friend that was a black powder guy and always made fun of his messy hobby. But being in commie kalifornia, may not have a choice anymore. LOL

[@elvisammo]

hey Kenneth G Maiden ... when defending our selves from tyranny, we don't care what color the powder is! : )

[@richmorlan2402]

You measure black powder by volume, NOT by weight. Thats why they sell the powder measures.

[@eddaddio]

Hey Elvis, have you chrono'd these?

[@elvisammo]

hey eddaddio.... No, I should have though... I think they were near 600 fps... my guess!

[@eddaddio]

I heard you can pack these cases (and 44's) with black powder to compression amounts and they'll still shoot just fine! Let us know if you do chronograph these, and next question: You gonna be makin' yer own powder soon? Have a good'un and keep postin'!

[@522alien]

i have a old 38 pistol can ı shoot modern 9mm or 38 sp from it ?

[@Last-Varangian]

Only shoot in it whatever is printed on the barrel as fitting it. That means no 9MM for sure, and only whatever 38 is printed on it. 38's came in a variety of types, so make sure you get the correct one for your old gun, else it could be a disaster!

[@theTIVANshow]

call me

[@curtisredmerski3962]

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[@jamescooper2618]

Kinda sorry I wasted the time to watch this.

[@looseballs1966]

You had my cringing a bit when you started weighing the charges on a scale, not trying to be a wise guy and I know this is an older video, but you never want to throw black powder charges by weight, black powder is to be measured by volume, I know it's a tad confusing because the volume measurement is still called grains but trust me measure by volume NOT weight (if you need to get one of the measures used for actual muzzle loaders), even weighing the volume charge on a scale does not work because the density of black powder can REALLY vary from batch to batch lot to lot and brand to brand even if you stay with 2f-3f or whatever, also you would not want to use 4f as a main charge powder, it is meant for charging the pan in a flint lock and would be rather unsafe used as the main charge weight, the 2f-3f-4f thing refers to the actuall granual size of the powder itself 2f being larger grain size than 3f and so on, and it is this graniual size that determins the burn rate of the powder itself 2f being slower than 3f and so on, by the time you get down to 4f it's pretty much like the really old camera's of the old west days, it is gone in a flash so quick you can't even hardly catch it with the naked eye kind of thing, in fact it is nothing more than very slightly finer grain than 4f powder that they use in them, so if you use it as a main charge it tends to act very quick more like an explosion (not actually what you want in a gun)and less like a propelent (people think of gun powder as an explosion but in truth it's more a rapid controlled expansion of the gasses to drive the bullet with a smooth progressive pressure curve not the instantaneous pressure spike of an explosion), black powder will also have that more like an explosion and less like a controlled rapid push thing if you leave the air space in the case like you talk about in the video, thats why you would be safer to completely fill the case with powder to the top of it than leave only a bit half filling the case ( in fact I have loaded numerous and various different cartridges threw the years, about 25 years now to be exact, and one of them is the 38 special and the charge I use fills the case to about a guarter of an inch from the top of the case, and is heavily compressed when my self cast 160 grain round nose bullet is seated on it), anyhow I have done a LOT of black powder stuff over the years like competition shooting with both flint lock and percussion muzzleloader, loaded for and shot competition with various calibers of the old sharps type rifles (45/70, 45/110, 50/90, 50/120, 50/140), and as I said have loaded the 38 special, 45 colt, 44/40, 38/40, 32/20, 30-30 and several others with good old black powder for right at 25 years like I say and I've learned just a tad about it over those years,(I also did cowboy action and authentic reinactment stuff so was always into the oldies), anyhow have fun with it and be safe.

[@elvisammo]

Thanks for the history lesson and the all the info! Thanks for taking the time to comment.. Happy shooting. I am a novice at best with black powder. And will be more clear in future videos

[@PS-rr2jt]

A “grain” is a measure of weight (actually mass, but here on Earth the gravitational pull is pretty consistent, so weight works). Because black powder is pretty forgiving, we’ve determined what the volumetric equivalent (roughly) to a desired “grain” charge is, but this would vary depending on the granular size of the powder you’re using. Surely a 15gr charge of 4F would take up a lot less space than a 15gr charge of 1F. It’s for this reason, among several others that people continue the misconception that BP metallic cartridges are loaded by volume. The case may be filled by a volumetric dispenser (pretty much all cartridges are, BP or smokeless), but the charge was determined by weight. Look at original boxes of BP cartridges. They give the charge of powder in grains right on the box. Grains don’t work like ounces, where one is a measure of volume or weight, grains are always a measurement of weight. Our job is to determine how to load an appropriate weight of BP AND fill the case so there’s no air gaps between the powder and bullet, sometimes using filler material if necessary.

[@thompsonjerry3412]

4 f is only used as pan priming powder.