Black Souls 2 - Relatively Obscure Sen Interactions

[@SlayerNerin]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHiboJabeNehpc0 for alicespeak translations

[@SlayerNerin]

I accidently slightly cut out the last part of Florence's Diary. She wrote "I'd rather die a human than turn into an incomprehensible monster".

[@Maxumym]

As someone whose favourite BS 1 was Goose, the "don't betray me this time" line cut deep.

[@Vodka6329]

That was goos?

[@Vodka6329]

What is GOos's connection to the Chick?

[@LaykWr]

@Vodka i don't think she has any direct connections to goose, as in, being the same character. they both give the "golden goose" fairy tale on death, so my theory is that it's probably just a different incarnation or representation of her character in Wonderland (BS2) compared to Lost Empire Goose in BS1. But specifically in BS2. Her line is probably just in reference to the multiple cicles that all the characters/actors have gone through. also, i think you have to kill her to be able to complete the library of fairy tales, so it's also a reference to that. Since it only happens at sen 0, it could also be Grimm feeling guilty for killing Goose in the first game, since she also appears in the hotel poseidon scene in this game.

[@notgedd]

I named the chick Goose because she reminded me of her

[@spy1679]

Frickin hell,i thought im the only one stunned after she said that..but for real,our Goose deserve all happiness

[@bobbysatya9312]

Hey man. Where can I find the Gear of Madness? Constantly lowering and raising the SEN is such a pain.

[@SlayerNerin]

Do you know who is responsible for the deaths of your covenants? If you do, it drops from them. I would figure that out first before playing with SEN.

[@bobbysatya9312]

@@SlayerNerin guess it would be impossible to tell me how to obtain it without spoiling the plot. It's fine tho. But can I get it on the first playthrough?

[@raylox39990]

@@bobbysatya9312 Yes

[@superduperdrew12345]

What's pictured in the thumbnail wasn't in the video, I was hoping to find something about Sackhead

[@rubickschannel9052]

I'm not familiar with the location with Florence's diary. What's this? How to get there?

[@SlayerNerin]

DLC 3 in the crimean nursing graveyard. It's on the top floor, I think.

[@timoi-]

let s go part 2

[@silkenemperor]

You ever just wired to not watch anything about something to avoid spoilers even when you already knew the spoiler.

[@AoiUsagiOtoko]

holy shit the thing with the teddy bears/fairies there's so much packed into every single aspect of this game, dear god. toro is a madman and that's why we love him

[@Mr.Cofman]

Fufufu... people didn't get the real message of that room...

[@user-yw6hu9lg4n]

​@@Mr.Cofman which is? don't leave people hanging😡

[@Mr.Cofman]

@@user-yw6hu9lg4n why should I spoil the fun~ ?

[@Mr.Cofman]

@@user-yw6hu9lg4n you want me to spoil the fun? Nyope~

[@spacesatan5840]

there are so many details in this game its insane

[@LocalClownOnEarth]

too many to find no time to discover it is easier to create

[@zombekilleralt3770]

This is the first time I've seen this game before! Looks really interesting, I'll have to check out the wiki Edit: Why

[@liamfitzpatrick3812]

I see another has laid their hand on the beacon, I hope you had fun at least.

[@Devilking-pf5bn]

Welcome to the madness…how does it feel ?

[@Lakeland_IV]

hahaha we got 'em boys

[@storyline9229]

kek

[@Forestrack54]

Did you find Alice?

[@southernviking64]

Ah to play Black Souls for the first time again

[@SlayerNerin]

Erase my memory and transport me back to the english release of this game please. I will never play BS1 and 2 blind again.

[@qng3975]

I think it is pretty clear that the world at sen 0 is the true view of the world

[@ludwigziffer6895]

Fun fact, the Ox Ward elevator interaction turns your Run Like Dodo skill off. I have no idea why.

[@silkenemperor]

I always found that annoying. It might have to do with the alt route of getting to carrol river is through the butcher who kills dodo when you run out of time.

[@destruction42k]

So you might be interested in an event with Victoria if you sleep with the crazy angel in the hospital she and another girl kills you they are two of Victoria's remaining sisters if you go though this event go back and ask her about it and Victoria will talk about her sisters.

[@alpharensis7946]

This game inspire me to create my own stories. I love it

[@YeyMuffinsYey]

The vibes and atmosphere of this game is truly unmatched.

[@derekjohn7535]

Ayyy, definitely a good story to be inspired by wish you the best of luck writing them

[@taito404]

You're gonna be a part of Grimm before you know it kek

[@GalicianResident]

Leaf?

[@destruction42k]

very good job sir thank you for your time and effort, and MADNESS. Meow.

[@maxduck6424]

So the Lorena messages make me wonder, if Mary took her soul, what did she made with it? May it be that it was used to create someone from BS1, and if it's true than who it is? Edit: Wait did Mary even took her soul?

[@SlayerNerin]

It was probably TCO that she sold herself to, like the real Alice. She was used to replace "older sister" Alice (one of the nightmares) that went missing/left some time before the start of BS2. It's why she's mentioned along with jabber, bander, and jub jub as a nightmare despite being originally human.

[@maxduck6424]

@@SlayerNerin Thanks for answer

[@Le_Rappel_des_oiseaux]

1:44 - You also forgot to mention that "There are no women in this village..."

[@alpharensis7946]

Who is she? who is she talking about?

[@SlayerNerin]

@@alpharensis7946 Alarune from Red's first game, the only futa in black souls.

[@alpharensis7946]

@@SlayerNerin I dont remember him, lol

[@trustytrest]

@@alpharensis7946 her

[@superduperdrew12345]

Alarune is found in the same mushroom village in Red Hood's Woods. It's possible to go the whole game without even going to the village. I think in BS2 Red says that she's been there before

[@rance2799]

2:09 Notice what the "pig" turns into?

[@taito404]

I thought I was going crazy in that Oxward elevator scene when I got that lol

[@silkenemperor]

By some definitions you were.

[@deadghost316]

Did anyone figure out what the whole thing with Bird Cage was in the hospital DLC? There's a bird cage in the room with the sack girl and one in Florence office

[@nanachi963]

Just near the exit to the tomb, if you see 2 strange monsters, that's right. then go to the left

[@Ic3Blade97]

@@nanachi963 What tomb are you talking about?

[@shayfarrelly2045]

not included in this video, but at the caroll river in that dungeon thing from red hoods woods north of the bonfire, the 4 snowmen in the cells are named at 0 sen. if i remember right, there was "Mary Sue ♡" (not Mary Ann?), "Red Hood ♡", "Alice ♡", "(player name) ♡". no clue what the hell this means

[@Darkyan97]

This game deserves more recognition.

[@silkenemperor]

But at the same time it should stay obscure so people who only see the bad don't find it.

[@Darkyan97]

@@silkenemperor Oh yes absolutely!

[@jokerobama6857]

gatekeep it

[@DavisJ-ln6fw]

@@jokerobama6857 No

[@DavisJ-ln6fw]

@@silkenemperor Nah it should be enjoyed by all

[@eggfordays3897]

Is it ever explained what she is in the slaughterhouse or is it just supposed to be TCO

[@SlayerNerin]

No clue. I imagine it is some schizo hallucination Grimm is having about Alice/other girls. Could also be TCO. It's strange because they only appear in the slaughterhouse at SEN 0.

[@destruction42k]

@@SlayerNerin I've personally always held the view that Node and the TCO aren't on the same side by the time the games events begin and the slaughter house is Node's way of 'disposing' of the TCO's selves/byproducts. I've thought of zero SEN as the reality of this worlds situation though this likely isn't always the case. that said theirs a plethora of reasons Node would want to keep the TCO from Grimm. Mind you we see more TCO copies in the hospital in dLC3 so maybe they're trying to reform the TCO there?

[@Jac_Dc]

Tco? I'm sorry, I was never good at picking up on lore. Denser than a block of lead.

[@deadghost316]

@@Jac_Dc The Crawling Ones, the Alice boss of ending G

[@destruction42k]

@@Jac_Dc sorry shouldn't be using acronyms like that without reason my bad.

[@ferociousmaliciousghost]

I always kill the brown bear first to show Winne the Pooh his future.

[@ProtoManiac2283]

Love these games so much.

[@spannishpalau2932]

it can't just be sanity

[@rodrigocofre693]

How do you get that item? Seems very useful for dont worry about sen level all the time

[@Vodka6329]

Kill Jubjub. Then transpose.

[@참깨가루]

Kill the mad bird jubjub

[@yargetshplarget8291]

As other comments likely say, ya kill JubJub.

[@tensheep420]

You have to kill JubJub at the sickening clock tower to get the gear of madness item

[@Minimo.]

how do you get hornet ring +3?

[@SlayerNerin]

Probably chaos dungeon

[@InfernalDrake117]

Also in one of the Winterbell chests I think

[@jinhong91]

What does it mean when things change in a more horrific way when SEN reaches 0 or below? What is SEN anyway? What does it mean when we see a girl in the red hood when our SEN is 0 but we see a monster in the mirror when SEN is positive at the start of the town?

[@SlayerNerin]

I cant spoil text on youtube so dont read if you havent played the game. SEN is essentially a reverse sanity bar (name probably comes from toro mispelling backwards madNESs). 0 = sane and seeing "reality" while 70+ = insane. As for Red Hood, this could be an intentional trick on us to prevent contact from an outside force. It could be Grimm just seeing humans as monsters at high sen and the reverse for the other non-humans as they reveal their actual forms. For some DLC 3 spoilers supporting on why this is put into place: Grimm's madness is often described as gears turning in his head, and this can be interpreted literally. Grand Guignol, the mechanical god behind controlling wonderland, is associated with gears and the noises of them moving comes to a standstill when we defeat her. Also, the item you get to freely manipulate SEN is a literal gear of madness. This is essential for keeping Grimm in the cycles of the play and to keep "interacting" with the covenant girls to produce children. This is evidenced by the fact that the girls only have a kill option and are quite literally unintelligible.

[@2how_nim]

if you are not crazy in wonderland, you are the crazy one

[@real-gigachad]

Does anyone know how to get to the Nursing Graveyard?

[@Ultramegaidiot]

It's on dlc 3 (I found it on accident LOL)

[@fujineetomori]

Is Grimm alright?

[@john_smith1907]

Nope

[@bsims4126]

Yes obviously, he’s going to Alice!

[@chifukanai]

Obviously not

[@ЙорикЙохонсон]

Ah, yes, adventure of groomer

[@czarnakoza9697]

my innocent ass thought this was just going to be a normal rpg maker game, i didnt expect this to be a porn game lmao

[@ferociousmaliciousghost]

It's pretty good for one though.

[@justyouraveragebro5421]

Even if it is porn it's actually has really good plot and so many hidden details too

[@Ultramegaidiot]

This isn't a porn game, this is a deranged, psychotic, and borderline batshit insane journey where we see Grimm become the victim of the worse fate imaginable, getting to bitches at the end.

[@Late0NightPC]

I have suspicions the Mushroom Village interaction may be yet another reference to Bloodborne. It seems like a fusion of two different characters, the Imposter Doctor and Adella the Nun. In BB, you start out in a clinic and can speak with a doctor NPC that helps you out, though you can only ever interact with her through a closed door. After a certain point though, she's replaced by an imposter who wants you to bring people to her to experiment on. Near the end of the game, you can return and enter the backside of the clinic to see her on a table, rambling half-insane about how her nausea is proof she was "chosen", that she's "special", because she believes it's a sign she was impregnated by a Lovecraftian God. Similarly, you can save various NPCs by inviting them to either that clinic, or a small chapel. If you invite Adella, a nun, she begins going yandere over the course of the game. If you interact with another NPC you can invite, the prostitute Arianna, too many times, Adella will end up going yandere over you. Based on other NPC dialog and context clues, it's implied that she was envious of Arianna, looking down on her for being a "lowly whore" yet still somehow catching your interest, while Adella was a well-mannered Blood Saint-in-training for the Healing Church that was ignored. After a certain point, if you triggered the flag for it, Arianna will be found brutally murdered with nearby Adella snaping completely, attacking you while rambling about how she'll never ever leave you again. That NPC in BS2 seemed to combine the envy of Adella, the "only behind the door" interactions of the Doctor/Imposter, and the "I MUST be special" egotism of both characters.

[@SlayerNerin]

I think you're right in that they play similar roles in BB and BS2. But, we actually know who this character is. It is most likely Alarune from Red Hood's Woods (red's game and the first in the series). To recap her character, she was supposed to be like Red, a changed human like her, but was set aside as a side character in the game making her extremely envious. She is far more aware of her nature as a creation of Mary Sue and is implied to have been classmates with Red before they were taken in.