Black Swan Light Cone Comparison! Which Are The BEST For F2P and P2W? [Honkai Star Rail]

[@fallz504]

Hi, thanks for the clear explanation! It's very insightful! Would you mind add more build to test, the ATK orb, than the Wind DMG Orb? Or, would you mind to explain why Wind DMG orb outweight the ATK orb? Many thanks!

[@AlexMendez-k2f]

should i put before the tutorial s5 on black swan or s3 good night and sleep well s3, or eyes of the pray s1

[@maxw3ker469]

before the tutorial is good for u👍 since she need a lot of ehr

[@maxw3ker469]

she need 120% ehr , no point of using eye of prey s1 since u only get 20% but with sw s5 lightcone , u can get 40%

[@CyanTril]

Tutorial like the person before mention will do you well until you get a few more copies of eyes of the pray.

[@gwyn_ch]

Tutorial for energy regen, prey for damage boost, yeah

[@yoursnowflake8602]

Heyy, man... What do you think about it: Use ATK% Planar Sphere (not Wind DMG bonus) with Good Night Sleep Well LC? The damage bonus from Good Night Sleep Well are count as Wind DMG, isn't? If use Wind DMG on Planar Sphere it will be to much. So... Balance it with ATK% What do you think? 🤔🤔🤔

[@toilatrungkien-r4k]

uhhh why is the 120% EHR weaker than the base 80%?? im confused

[@Mr.Hot_Take]

It's because the lower EHR side has higher ATK. Those substats have got to go somewhere.

[@CyanTril]

I speak about this shortly in my most recent video

[@toilatrungkien-r4k]

​@@el2747 i disagree, for Xueyi is literally doubled the number Black Swan needed to achieve. While you could focus on other stats but abandon that 20% EHR, you lost 12% dmg increase. Not saying having high EHR is a guarantee to procc "Arcana" and imo i prefer stablity than a 12% dmg gap (the first comparison)

[@i.t.s.s.i.l.v.e.r]

​@@el2747nah, 120% gonna be more consistent, it's like having 99% cr on hypercarry character. 100% doesnt recommend bcs the dmg isnt really much higher.

[@anastacyaubrey]

would herta shop free lc work if i don't have a lc with ehr?

[@danielfreitas3699]

Do you think it's worth trying to get her lightcone or leave her with Sampo's lightcone s1?

[@Bing..chiling]

Her LC is worth it you compared with shampo's S1, just use herta's shop for subtitute

[@btsworld7702]

If i have it on kafka? The only other best optionis s1 eyes of the pray ​@@Bing..chiling

[@aayushmanchaturvedi3706]

I got guinafen and black swan I have welt's lightcone, the silverwolf tutorial one, sampo's lightcone and pela sleeping one which one should i put on both?

[@CyanTril]

You didn't tell me your superimpositions on each lightcone can you please provide this information so I can give the best advice.

[@aayushmanchaturvedi3706]

@@CyanTril Welt's one is S1 Sampo's is s3 Silverwolf and pela ones are s5 My sampo is E2, is he better than Guinafen(E2 as well)? I don't think so but I haven't really researched much

[@CyanTril]

@@aayushmanchaturvedi3706 run Sampo lightcone on Blackswan even though it’s not S5 the additional stats will make it more easier for building her and out damage silver wolf tutorial. In guinaifen you can run GNSW and have her as a sub dps. She will do better than Sampo in the damage department unless you need to break enemies fast.

[@aayushmanchaturvedi3706]

@@CyanTril thank you very much Definitely subbing

[@irfants5]

wait why does 120 ehr deal less damage ?? isnt it supposed to increase her damage

[@CyanTril]

The overall stat hit to reach 120% Effect Hit Rate doesn’t outweigh the benefits would be the best way to describe it without the benefits of a Lightcone boost.

[@irfants5]

@@CyanTril pls explain more easily

[@CyanTril]

@@irfants5 It's hard to hit 120% Effect Hit Rate. You lose a lot of Attack and that is where majority of your damage is.

[@irfants5]

@@CyanTril ohh okk . So I'll use effect hit rate body pice and the new 4 star free lightcone right?

[@CyanTril]

@@irfants5 depends on your sub rolls I speak about this in my most recent video

[@yazzy3177]

i dont have kafka what is a good team comp with her and ruan mei?

[@CyanTril]

Blackswan / RM / Nihility Sub DPS or Asta/Bronya / Support Healer.

[@yazzy3177]

@@CyanTril ok thx

[@Bruh-xv3cq]

Personally it bugs me alot seeing so many BS E0S0 f2p vids out there like "ah yes let me whip up my nonexistent f2pbtw Eyes of the Prey". Its understandable tho due to how versatile it is and prolly lots of regular players have it, but man it demotivates me of pulling BS as if using Its Showtime is gon be a liability if cant get enough ehr. So thanks alot for this comparison!

[@CyanTril]

Yeah it can be a bit of an issues simply because I don’t recommended f2p roll for any lightcones personally. Unless you truly love the character most of the lesser options do pretty well and it makes the game more fun Imo.

[@mrbadguy9572]

Bruh im F2P with e1 s1 uh

[@i.t.s.s.i.l.v.e.r]

​​@@mrbadguy9572well even if you are f2p, doesnt mean it's "f2p friendly", since it's not free and to do gacha. it's all best of luck. even i who always buy welkin, only has s4 eyes of the prey only. it's like saying "e6s5 bs is f2p since i have it" lol. you can get it if you saving for it. my point is, being f2p and have some "limited character" or "limited lightcone", doesnt mean the "limited" become f2p friendly. the only f2p lightcones are from su and moc/ pure fiction. f2p ≠ f2p friendly

[@dvrghonefrb9586]

should i put on black swan eyes of the prey e1 or s5 tutorial( i have kafka with s5 good night sleep well and ruan mei with her signature light cone) and sould i try to get the e1 of black swan or her lightcone? ( im f2p by the way)

[@CyanTril]

The first question is for your team what characters is she the only dps or will there be sub dps as well. No DO NOT ROLL HER Lightcone as it’s strong and great for her but I don’t believe it’s required for her to function therefore it’s skip-able. F2P should focus only on characters imo it’s a more enjoyable experience

[@dvrghonefrb9586]

⁠@@CyanTrilthank you very much, i think i will continue to summon on the banner to get copies of gunaifen and if i got her its all good and if not its not that sad i will save for a good sustain bc at this time i have only bailu lmao

[@dvrghonefrb9586]

@@CyanTriland kafka is the principal dps in my team but i want black swan to do damdage too as a sub

[@CyanTril]

@@dvrghonefrb9586 If you have Godlike Sub stats GNSW otherwise Tutorial this will give BS less damage output but help her with rotations and keeping her ultimate up more.

[@Sze-u2n]

eyes of prey s3 or its showtime s5 or it just depends on my substats

[@CyanTril]

Eyes of prey S3 for sure

[@penguwr7588]

I only have s1 of sampo lc so I just stick on tutorial lc :(

[@CyanTril]

You aren’t the only one just use it for now until you gain more copies s3 is decent enough if you want the additional damage

[@Apenaswesley]

in the video which states that it has 80% more damage than in the video where it shows 120% is this correct?

[@CyanTril]

Wait I’m confused by what you mean by this? The 80/120% in the video refers to her BASE Effect Hit Rate not including Lightcone benefits.

[@h3li0smaster]

1:39 Creo que el se refiere a que uno de los trazos aumenta el daño mientras mayor sea el Acierto de Efecto. Por lo tanto si tiene 80% de Acierto de Efecto debería hacer menos daño (13.246/31.830) que si tiene 120% de Acierto de Efecto (11.620/27.923)

[@h3li0smaster]

De hecho esto es algo que pasa en todo el vídeo y tampoco tiene sentido. ¿La build tiene diferentes estadísticas de ataque, lo que provoca que el daño realizado sea menor? Tal vez una pechera de ATK% vs Acierto de Efecto?

[@CyanTril]

@@h3li0smaster 6:50 Yes the relics are different between both builds as reaching 120% Effect Hit Rate is rather hard without the bonus from your lightcone. This causes you base ATK or Speed to be lower which can result in a damage loss due to insufficient stats.

[@AnimeLover-qm9vu]

Nice video keep it up bro also this is what video I what not all people have money to make it s5 so thank you

[@sslowpokes]

sadly i just have 1 shampo's lightcone :(

[@CyanTril]

Do you have tutorial?

[@d_____12355]

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