Black Widow's Changed Taskmaster ...And People Are Mad.

[@2500taemoney]

it’s like they gave taskmaster’s personality to ultron 6 years ago

[@theincrediblecarters3128]

RIGHT! Like they mixed up the the character sheets with these two and never questioned it. I hope the fix this by giving this the Mandarin treatment and saying it was a title her Father took from the real one who could do it without a chip and is more accurate to what he should be because honestly this version just felt like a lesser version of Winter Soilder.

[@qualwinters8784]

You've got a point! Switch the personalities, and the villains fit much better! 😆

[@masonjar213_]

Also why did ultron have more of a personality than vision? Vision had the mind stone!

[@cantthinkofaname5046]

I audibly said “oh shit he’s right…” reading this

[@k0metz590]

@@theincrediblecarters3128 oh god, i thought the same thing

[@zackalexon7020]

I really hated the Taskmaster change, I would be fine if it was Antonia and still have the same traits as Tony Masters, but this was basically Deadpool from X-Men Origins: Wolverine

[@maxlopez7671]

No taskmaster illegal gentrification is one petulant to be.

[@raphaeldelaghetto85]

They can always retcon it later ala the Mandarin. I just found it annoying that the Taskmaster stunt person was clearly a man, yet the “big reveal” was the head of this very slim actress on a body that didn’t match.

[@Sin_ofGreed_]

@@raphaeldelaghetto85 they had chance with that, in thunderbolts.. but no, they just kept the crappy version.

[@Sin_ofGreed_]

@@raphaeldelaghetto85 and its cause throughout the entire movie its her stunt double, she was only in the suit for like 2 or 3 scenes.

[@josevlog945]

Screen Rant's Pitch Meeting for this movie summarized Taskmaster the best: Taskmaster will be like a Wolverine: Origins Deadpool where she doesn't talk and is scarred on her face

[@edaraujo2169]

Really?!?! I just commented that! Hahaha!

[@ne3856]

@@edaraujo2169 Really? LOL

[@liammcguire1954]

Good description but personally not a fan of screen rant. I like to call them screen cringe

[@backinthe90siwasinaveryfam65]

@@liammcguire1954 Theres a guy who works on the chanel called Ryan George, screen rant sucks but he is the only good thing on the chanel. Ryan George evan has his own KZbin chanel, I would recoment watching his pitch meeting videos

[@josevlog945]

@@liammcguire1954 I just watch their pitch meetings if it's a movie I saw at some point

[@YaBoiPhil]

I wish they used Silver Sable instead, to go into the cybernetic enhanced spy motif

[@scifiguy9000]

I think SONY has the rights to Sable, given how she's tied to Spider-Man.

[@JustLycan00]

SS is part of the spider verse universe, marvel cannot use her without Sony permission

[@luigiboi4244]

They couldn’t have used Silver Sable, but they COULD have used Spymaster.

[@natsureings619]

Idk she’s link to nadie will have nothing to do with black widow by now

[@marlonclark1896]

silver Sable is from spider-man and i don't think they can legally use anyone from spider-man without Sony's permission

[@edaraujo2169]

The MCU did a Wolverine: Origins on Taskmaster

[@GrayGasana]

Iron man 3 Mandarin

[@edaraujo2169]

@@GrayGasana Nah... I mean the Wolverine: Orgins's "Deadpool" you know? She's not the Baraka weird thing, but I think I made my point.

[@GrayGasana]

@@edaraujo2169 Ryan Reynolds as Baraka sounds funny and cool tho 😂😂😂

[@GarciaXVLegend_04]

Nah, more like a combination of Wolverine: Origins & Catwoman 2004 on Taskmaster.

[@pinktanukiii]

Exactly my thoughts

[@razorswordninja12]

Cassandra Cain and Taskmaster: *tilting their heads at the characters who have their names only* Deadpool: *pats them on the back*

[@Maskedmenace8267]

I just imagine the villian head tilt

[@DJmouchi777]

Honestly if they needed a villain with the abilities of the heroes, they could have used an Adaptoid or something. What we got in the movie was just a Taskmaster function; she sorta did Taskmaster things, and sorta looked like Taskmaster, but wasn't the actual Taskmaster.

[@xanderm6090]

Yeah, but if she looked like a power rangers villain now, her looking like the Super Adaptoid would for sure make her look like one.

[@dasboom7133]

They put a knight rider scan thing in her goggles…it literally flashed red…

[@pryxed7972]

Did it needed to be ? For instance we’ll all thought Wandavision was going to reveal the devil but it was totally different

[@pryxed7972]

And plus it fits with the different multiverses

[@JoeMamasBestie]

Maybe Taskmaster can get that "The Mandarin" treatment one day

[@KainGerc]

They basically pulled a 'Mandarin' with the Taskmaster (an OK twist reveal that basically threw away all of the potential of the original character from the comics), only they didn't even have the charisma of Ben Kingsley to fall back on. They could have at least saved the character somewhat if they made her willingly follow her father (partly motivated by revenge against Natasha) but instead they made her just ANOTHER girl who was chemically mind controlled by him (how was she different than any of the other girls exactly?!)

[@matthiasfoo1217]

also she was boring as hell...i get it's because she's supposed to be a drone but that's kinda shooting yourself in the foot right? like charlie cox's daredevil had more emotion in his eyes whilst being blind...

[@maxlopez7671]

Nah they need reveal the real taskmaster

[@ammagon4519]

Umm it's actually the fake Taskmaster, the real one is somewhere out there duh! - something something snack zyder

[@superthorc6894]

Taskmaster in the comic: fun, hilarious, cool MCU taskmaster: void of personality, henchman at worst, just a wannabe winter solider at best

[@kingkong9892]

Facts

[@kennisonkeys7419]

Exactly he's a mercenary who kills anyone for the right amount of money.

[@mawinstallation6626]

Yep

[@ExeErdna]

They "Deadpool'ed" him

[@lexofpower2822]

@ExeErdna do you mean “deadpool’ed” him in a sense like what they did to him in X-men Origins Wolverine, because MCU taskmaster is the equivalent of that.

[@murkymurk]

“Source material accuracy doesn’t make or break an adaptation” The last airbender would like a word with you

[@leotheyoshi151]

Actually, even if everything was accurate to the show, the poor direction, acting, and other things like horrendous special effects would still make it a terrible movie

[@LeadMetal82]

It's a fair statement. Screen adaptation doesnt have to follow source material. What matters is how you adapt it.

[@redhood7650]

@@leotheyoshi151 err,do I need to remind you of the earth bender prison?

[@leotheyoshi151]

@@redhood7650 no, you don't. Even if it was on a metal ship and had been the same story as the episode, the poor acting, bad camera work, and sucky special effects would have still made that an absolutely horrendous scene

[@bobbyonkazoo3512]

to be fair, wandavision was loosely based on the comics, it was a much different thing than it was in the comics

[@fgcmiloboyyo1550]

Taskmaster’s humanity and grounded nature make him likable. He’s a bad dude just trynna make his way around. His obnoxious attitude and fighting skills are what make him fun. Tony Master has character. THEY VOIDED TASK of all personality.

[@troyterry3226]

But be honest would that version of Tasksmaster fit in this movie??? That version of Taskmaster would be better suited for a Deadpool movie or Disney+ show.

[@eem2wavy133]

@@troyterry3226 yes it can completely fit. Characters like iron man make sarcastic jokes all the time even in serious films like civil war, infinity war or avengers

[@thepineappledude8487]

@@troyterry3226 in all honesty that version would probably fit better in the movie if she was a trainer of the women in the Red room or even just a Hired Gun to track down the missing asset that was Black Widow because in all honesty the Taskmaster in the movie serves little to no purpose and is very uninteresting in fact I wouldn't even call her a character

[@evancook2507]

@@troyterry3226 if the character doesn’t fit the movie they should find one that does. Not change the character for the worst.

[@yousefkaldany2779]

Yes, and keeping this in mind, I have a great fancast for Taskmaster. I think Jeremy Kent Jackson from Disney’s Lab Rats should play Taskmaster. What do you think?

[@eon001]

I don't care about the gender and origin swap. But making her a mind controlled mute was DUMB. They could have done the reveal half way, and actually have her motive be driven by revenge instead of mind control nonsense.

[@maxlopez7671]

Fuck that actually stories of taskmasters and male perspective is miraculous what fans prurience wanted

[@flintson2268]

It's all shit my man it's all shit...

[@tryhardtale1585]

The thing I hate the most is Taskmaster being a woman, I just hate gender swaps especially with a character I like so much like Taskmaster

[@shism28]

@@tryhardtale1585 I like Taskmaster but his gender isn’t integral to the character. I just wish they kept the origin as now we’ll never get the Black Ant duo that I love so much.

[@LegoDarthVader2152]

sometimes gender swaps work (like with Captain Marvel) but I agree with you. never, EVER change that much about a character that people know about

[@mawinstallation6626]

This Taskmaster is exactly the character of the young Headmistress. Anya, the Headmistress is the daughter of a woman who supervised the Red Room. Oddly similar. Even their names are similar. Antonia (movie) and Anya (comics). For real. That was the Headmistress, just barely looking like the Taskmaster.

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

YTF DIDNT KEVIN FEIGE AND CO. MAKE HER THE VILLAIN INSTEAD OF CONVERTING HER TO TASKMASTER?!?!??

[@SQGReviewShow]

So they're another amalgamation character like what they did with Sylvie Enchantress/Lady Loki?

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

@@SQGReviewShow yeah basically, though I need comic book recommendations for Enchantress and Lady Loki

[@mawinstallation6626]

@@SQGReviewShow Not even that lol. It's just the Headmistress, but looks like the Taskmaster lol. The only Taskmaster-y thing was those little times we saw her mimicking certain abilities from other characters

[@mawinstallation6626]

@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 I KNOW RIGHT??

[@jarvic07]

There was one fake leak from reddit about Black Widow that I think would've worked better for Taskmaster In this "premise", since Nat and Yelena's solo fighting styles are known by the Taskmaster, they beat her with a a special duo fighting style that only they know as they developed it together when they were kids. At least in this version, it shows that Taskmaster is incredibly hard to defeat. I honestly think that it would've made much more sense to do that as it also references their past and special bond as sisters rather than the "we're upside down" reference in the end of the movie.

[@TheAnimeMegaFreak]

year late. would give me the vibe of when steve and bucky are just trading blows at tony in civil war but in their own style

[@shadowstrike234]

I wish they used a different characer instead of completely reinventing such a famous character to the point where there is barely any resemblance to the character. Someone like Fantomex maybe would've fit better. Honestly the villains were the main issues i had with the film. Dreykov felt like a Phase 1 villain all over again.

[@brotherjustincrowe]

Fantomex wouldn’t have made any sense at all. It’s a moot point anyway, as the FOX merger was still being worked out during production, so he wouldn’t have been available anyway.

[@tonypeppermint5329]

Could of worked.

[@shadowstrike234]

@@brotherjustincrowe I know, but i meant replace him with any other assassin like character. Fantomex was the first that came to mind at like 3 am lmao

[@killgre2399]

headmistress would of worked better

[@brotherjustincrowe]

@Immak I also like not knowing about the Annette/slabbing era of GOTG and find false equivalency cool and good.

[@AmandaTheJedi]

Where'd ya get the damn shirt Drake

[@ComicDrake]

Target. 👉😎👉

[@toxification]

@@ComicDrake Drake got drip

[@captaintacomeat.223]

@@ComicDrake drake drake drake... they somehow managed to make kang worse than ever.

[@rocket_bsd_8101]

Target is straight fire

[@ozby11]

@@captaintacomeat.223 you know this is supposed to be a good version of kang right? Not the evil time traveler

[@toganium4175]

“They don’t read the comics. They won’t care.”

[@radexyz4918]

I hate ppl who say that

[@Anthonycheesman2024]

One min they say they do then you say they don't

[@tonypeppermint5329]

It's ridiculous.

[@Liqo315]

At this point it's ridiculous and dumb at the same time but hey don't get your hopes up when x men and fantastic four comes 🤷🏿‍♂️💯

[@Liqo315]

@Abhikrishna PS wussgood bro and yeah bro they ruined x men 3 and origins wolverine the fantastic four movie was garbage

[@donovanstewart698]

Honestly, I’m not too bothered by a woman task master, I just care that they took away his personality and didn’t let him have his goofy skeletor looking mask

[@sarafontanini7051]

at least she has a costume which is SURPRSING, even it's all for set up for a BIG IDENTITY REVEAL

[@leotheyoshi151]

@@sarafontanini7051 Surprising? MCU has costumes for most villians and heros, and they keep them on for the most part. Sure, some characters take the masks off outside of fights, but the MCU has been pretty great at having costumes for characters. Only real exception I can think of being scarlet witch, until wandavision came out

[@maximusnextinline4513]

Mask was fire and Taskmasker actually has a Daughter in the comics so it could be her and the original Taskmasker could still exist

[@weebtakuduelist3044]

@@maximusnextinline4513 true or they can do what they did with the mandarin in Iron Man and say that that wasn't the real Taskmaster to cover up this mess of a Task Master so yeah he could still exist.

[@YaBoiDoi]

For me Im pretty mad mainly about the gender change. Its like making black widow a boy or taking away harry potters glasses. Why? Woke shit.

[@RNJesusVtuber]

And I say unto you: "Comic Drake, the toy you are referring to are called the Transdagger from Power Rangers Lost Galaxy."

[@ComicDrake]

HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT THANK YOU!

[@RNJesusVtuber]

@@ComicDrake "It was my pleasure, my child."

[@Color_Splsh]

@@ComicDrake you better show that toy off in your next video

[@ukiyasenpai]

Or if we wanna go Super Sentai, it's Mechanical Blade Kiba from Gingaman.

[@Edsomthing]

Dang I was about to say that

[@adamlegros1180]

They literally gave us a budget winter soldier instead of the real taskmaster

[@whatisthis771]

Task master could’ve been literally any other character in the movie

[@josephclark9991]

I don’t think it is the last we will see of the ‘task master’ I think he will pop up else where completely different more comic like

[@liammcguire1954]

I know right? But then again, when you see Jac Schaffer on the writers during the intro of this movie, it gives you a bad sign. You know the movie will have weird and contrived writing when you have a writer who has admitted she is terrible at reading comics. Makes you wonder why she’s writing a comic movie then

[@wDoucheCanoe]

@@josephclark9991 eh, I kinda don't want him(now her) to reappear unless they completely revamp the character

[@andreuva4782]

I wanted him to be the British Guy.

[@distinguishedallureproduct879]

I was honestly hoping it was Rachel Weiss character as a twisted double agent or the real bad guy of the film...it would have impacted better if the whole Family "trope" would shatter seeing that just like the fake Russian family they portrayed it was all fake from Rachel Weiss characters POV

[@mr.knightthedetective7435]

Changing Taskmasters gender doesn't bother me but they should've kept him as the *main villain,* he (she) would've easily fit as the boss of the Red Room instead of a Noname Nobody cares about

[@certifiednobody]

Gender changes always bothers me because they always make the characters feel different and less recognizable. It's like changing Peter Parker's name to John, giving him a French accent and blonde hair, and saying "No, it's the exact same character. Do you hate blonde people?"

[@drackestalentorgen166]

during the movie I was thinking why the heck would they make their task master male if all their experiments in the red room were female...and yet with everything they changed to skull masked boy...this makes her a victim even more in the eyes of the audience especially with who the girl is ....is why Nat saved her from the destruction of the red room even though That ment she would try to kill her

[@EldenLord78]

@@certifiednobody completely agree.

[@wDoucheCanoe]

It actually bothered me a lot because I don't see Taskmaster(Tony Master). I don't see his personality, his creative ways to gain the upper hand in fights, or really anything about the character aside from the name. Just Marvel grandstanding once again, and I've been waiting for years to see Black Widow finally get her own film. Other than them fumbling the Villain, I enjoyed it for the most part

[@cantthinkofaname5046]

@@certifiednobody disagree. A gender change is really inconsequential if the character is exactly the same. In fact, the gender change could have worked (especially since taskmaster is tied to the red room in the MCU). It’s the blatant changing to the point where taskmaster is an OC with the same costume and name that bugs me.

[@WarmLillie]

I guess you can say that they had one task, they killed it in different way…

[@AaronTorres92]

They didn't master the task at hand

[@R0B1NG5]

They never actually call her Taskmaster, just the program. Another test subject "Anthony Masters" could have escaped unseen and used in a future movie, or he could be created by someone who picks up the work of the program. And he can be the quippy jerk people have to work around the mirror match with.

[@lord_bobanewname4069]

What if Anthony Masters created the Taskmaster protocol Have him dawn the suit at some point

[@thelurker5950]

@@lord_bobanewname4069 both ideas would be a great work around for how the character was portrayed in black widow but I wouldn't get my Hope's up for this to actually be a plot line at some point.

[@phelps6205]

The fact they named her Antonia makes it pretty obvious the is THE task master, a rule 63'd Tony Masters, we can theorize all we want, but what is done is done, and the MCU is not as open to hijinks like comics to allow for such convoluted stories.... Too bad.

[@R0B1NG5]

@@phelps6205 I mean I took the name as an easter egg reference. Her second name is completely different. And comic book hijinks seems to be the name of the game with all this multiverse and what if stuff. I honestly couldn't disagree with you more.

[@paddywickstead1122]

One thing I noticed was nats friend who supplied her. Forgot his name, but he wore a white blue and orange checkered shirt in at least one scene. Would be a bit of a stupid retcon but they could make him the real tony masters behind the creation of this iteration of task master. He obviously had a lot of pull behind the scenes. Probably wouldn’t be good enough but it’s something

[@DeadUnicornClub]

I left that movie saying "If I was a Taskmaster fan, I'd be pissed. Good thing I'm not one of those." And was able to move on with my life. But I knew these kinds of videos were coming.

[@tutumazibuko2510]

Lol for real, but even then people are really getting knickers in a twist over something small.

[@freshavocado4755]

Exactly how i felt dude. I’d be pissed if they did this too fantomex

[@dantewilson182]

Honestly I'm pissed off that her action scenes were underwhelming. She was barely in the movie and all her encounters were incredibly short, with her actual defeat being incredibly anticlimactic. Like if we take all the Taskmaster stuff aside, all we're left with is quite literally a Winter Soldier redux without anything distinct to call her own.

[@pious83]

@@dantewilson182 My main gripe was just to me, this should have been a Phase 2 movie. It has the same vibe.

[@spendsshanks6050]

@@tutumazibuko2510 Not really small at all. If someone is a fan of a character that gets royally fucked then they’re gonna be pretty mad about it. Especially since it’s the only live action version of the character that is pretty cool in the comics.

[@kobifisher9698]

Yoooo and taking his comic lore and adapting it to the MCU would've been a great reversal of Black Widow's character arc. She went from being a servant of the Red Room to joining Shield and using her powers for a more noble purpose. Taskmaster, however, who has less of a sense of morality, goes from being an agent of shield, to working for the Red Room as a trainer. Would've been a cool dichotomy.

[@jsmarty1]

Taskmaster was literally the main reason I wanted to see this

[@fgcmiloboyyo1550]

Same dawg

[@elderrusty541]

Same here, he’s an absolute badass in the comics

[@theankh2872]

And there you have the reason why this character is nothing like him. It was all just a bait so we go to the see the movie.

[@thecapedcrusaderofgotham4133]

I loved his MoonKnight arc!

[@ftwnoobbuster]

Facts

[@1sdani]

Honestly, I feel like the movie really didn't give Natascha much to struggle against morality-wise. She never had to make a choice on whether to kill someone despite a big conflict being her past as a murderer. In my opinion, both could have been fixed by having the twist be that Antonia was never mind controlled, rather than having it be that she was. Furthermore, make Natascha's "posing" quirk more than just a running gag, but rather have it be the "face" of a larger theme of Antonia being able to take advantage of people's habits in battle, countering Natascha's tendency to do the leg spin thing, the posing thing, etc. This then can be used to tie the action into the themes of the movie by making Antonia directly oppose the movie's themes of one's ability to better themself. By being so keenly observant on people's habits and in fear that her years of working towards her revenge might have been for nothing, Antonia has become convinced that people can't truly change, that no matter how hard she trains or how many augmentations she gets, she'll always be that girl who was so desperate for revenge she'd turn herself into a living weapon. Finally, by removing any chance for a peaceful resolution to the fight by making Antonia not mind controlled, Natascha would be forced to either risk her life to spare Antonia's and find a way to restrain her, or finish the job she started years ago. The fight then would conclude with Natascha actively changing her habits, even if momentarily, to counter The Taskmaster, and getting herself injured multiple times to ensure Antonia is stopped without killing her.

[@Weskalia]

The Mandarin: First time? Taskmaster: Huh?

[@pious83]

*Origins Deadpool and Cloud Galactus chuckle*

[@Problem_Childfrfr]

@@pious83 don’t forget parallax or whatever the villain in green lantern

[@salsaecebolinha5281]

You mean "fake Mandarin". At least mcu fixed it. Taskmaster should be talking with another person since Taskmaster is just "herself" apparently lol

[@razorswordninja12]

Add Cassandra Cain to that list/club as well

[@egitimedebiyat8046]

@@razorswordninja12 Cause joining Loa once?That was fixed.

[@havok3604]

I just wanted Taskmaster to say "Aim of Hawkeye!" Then I would have been happy.

[@jacksonbrickmedia939]

It freaks me out that red guardian is nat’s dad in the movie because he was her husband in the comics. Even though he is great in the movie I can’t unsee it and it freaks me out.

[@betterlatethannever4529]

So that's why she calls him Daddy😏 This is the internet, there are far more degenerate things a person can say 😂

[@sonsonthegoddessofconfusio3183]

@@betterlatethannever4529 get out

[@maismade6013]

Well they aren’t related at least

[@mawinstallation6626]

@@betterlatethannever4529 hold up

[@Rosales3269]

He didn't even have his shield in the movie! He just took taskmaster's shield for a bit then threw it at a baddie.

[@lilchickennugget7753]

I have always felt like the Taskmaster wouldn't have translated to the MCU very well anyway because outside of the bow, shield, claws and occasional acrobatics no one really has a defined fighting style.

[@elhabto]

If they had kept Taskmaster's character and named her Talia Masters then it would have been great.

[@sonsonthegoddessofconfusio3183]

Exactly shout out to his daughter

[@sterling9314]

Also, why does everyone keep giving comic book movies a pass when it comes to source material accuracy? If, for example, the Harry Potter movies made Harry an American adult with a smoking habit and gun people would’ve been up in arms about how inaccurate it is, even if it was a great movie.

[@mray4784]

Because in my opinion, western people don't respect original sources like eastern people (anime/manga).

[@graviton6436]

Because then it wouldn’t be Harry Potter? They came to see Harry Potter not someone called Harry who is American, has a smoking habit and guns people.

[@sterling9314]

@@graviton6436 that’s my point. But stuff like what they did with taskmaster (and a lot of other comic characters) is passed off as “it doesn’t matter if it’s like the source material”. This isn’t taskmaster, it’s a completely different character with a similar costume.

[@ExeErdna]

We do care except there's a larger majority that doesn't care and get mad at us for caring. Yet if we didn't care they wouldn't have gotten a movie to watch. Which leaves a lot of us perturbed with the casual market base.

[@EldenLord78]

Yes exactly.

[@cybersoldierforever]

Not impressed too. I wish we got the OG Taskmaster. Overall, I enjoyed the film. It was solid, but I wish they could have done better with the villain.

[@kanjixp1761]

Maybe they'll do justice to the character for the real taskmaster to emerge.

[@thomaz3235]

@@power279 Isn't he one ?

[@enderbrawler6576]

@@kanjixp1761 That could possibly happen in the future. I mean since Marvel will likely see the overwhelming negative reception about Taskmaster, they’ll probably fix it like the Mandarin. A good way to possibly do this while changing it a bit to fit with the current continuity could be that since the red room incident would likely be well known at this point, so would the existence of the original Taskmaster. An organization like SWORD or maybe Val could see the potential in an agent that can copy the entire Avengers and their enemies, but they want to do it without the cybernetics so they wouldn’t be a mindless drone like the “prototype”. So they create a new variation of the Super Soldier Serum (you know since there are tons of those like centipede and gamma serum) That does give the user the regular super soldier abilities, however instead of changing the user’s morality, it affect their memory just like the comic version. Give the Serum to Tony Masters who would be either a SWORD agent or a US soldier and you got yourself a more comic accurate Taskmaster.

[@tatsudragneel4761]

2:00 THANK YOU! It's telling when people like that jump to attacking something cause "women", "lgbtq+" or "poc" and cry "politics are ruining everything" when those aspects are never the actual issue a piece of media has. Things can just be poorly executed and written sometimes.

[@tatsudragneel4761]

I doubt this will happen, feel like she's just another one off villain like many MCU villains, but I think they could use this as a jumping off point to becoming Taskmaster. She can open up her own training school with the idea of being better then her father and without the mind control. If they do bring her back I think that's the best direction to go instead of "Tony Masters secretly exist in the background" which would just feel like another Mandarin. Now that she's free she can grow into the Taskmaster personality

[@exileforever2508]

I say there’s still room for Tony Master since this Taskmaster only share the first name and it’s a common name And his suit is still around, he could kill the faker, take her suit because it’s cheaper than buying a new one and used his already enchanted photographic memories to copies varies of other fighting style. Hell, Taskmaster could be the new villain for Shang Chi sequel

[@kerricaine]

i don't even think you need to that far. antonia has basically spent her life as a mind-controlled drone. now that she's free, i think there's room for her to become more like the comic version. i could even see them doing something like she starts up her own training facility like "my fathers methods were evil and vile, but his ideas were solid." or something along those lines. maybe she gets drafted by val or general ross, or the power broker gets their hands on her?

[@exileforever2508]

@@kerricaine or just take her suit altogether without killing her or she trained Tony Master who decide to take up the mantle

[@sonsonthegoddessofconfusio3183]

People like you piss me off honestly lmao

[@exileforever2508]

@@sonsonthegoddessofconfusio3183 talking to me or kamen

[@skakee10]

For sure something like that will happen. Proof: The Mandarin, Zemo, Scarlet Witch. Basically the entire Thor franchise When the mcu messes up they usually try to amend it later

[@dariendarkhouse8538]

I hope they give Taskmaster the Mandarin treatment. Either have him come in and explain that she just took the name or have her come back written better and actually have her feel like Taskmaster.

[@jacksonbrickmedia939]

Marvel movies are great at making new characters. Coulson and the Agents of Shield gang are almost all new or Z list characters that were reinvented from the ground up and basically all of them are fantastic.

[@dhruvhari7189]

And yet they mess up already available ones...

[@higaiwokeru]

They are good because they can’t butcher a character that doesn’t exist

[@jacksonbrickmedia939]

@@dhruvhari7189 what do you mean, I thought the portrayals of ghost rider and quake were very good.

[@jermainekngdom3154]

Daisy was the only popular character out of the main. She was fairly new. Some might be deep cuts but idk. Coulson was a deep cut.

[@sixtwohunchos4198]

@@jermainekngdom3154 coulson was invented by marvel studios

[@Teksuo]

And the reason why they threw out everything of the old Taskmaster and turned him into this new character that's nothing like the one people recognize...???

[@king-le2vz]

Even Drake doesn’t like the changes.

[@thepineappledude8487]

And that's saying something

[@tutumazibuko2510]

Yeah except his reasons have more weight to them instead of stupid shit yall love to come up with

[@thepineappledude8487]

@@tutumazibuko2510 ummm ok

[@king-le2vz]

@@tutumazibuko2510 Who’s y’all lmao.

[@EldenLord78]

@@tutumazibuko2510 Drake's points in this video are solid. But that doesn't change the fact that the character shouldn't have been changed to a female. I don't get why it's so hard to understand that we want the same characters that are from the comics, if they aren't just make them a new character ffs.

[@baddragonite]

The gender swap for some isn't a problem and for others is. Personally I took it as a sign that they didn't care to be faithful to the character at all even on the base level so why would they be faithful for any other part?

[@1wayroad935]

Aside from Taskmaster, I still had fun watching the movie. I just wished that Taskmaster was just some merc the bad guy hired who just bails when he realizes that his employer was probably going to die so he won't get paid anyway.

[@sarafontanini7051]

this. ths what they shou;d've done. none of this mind control malarky. hell, could even create a foil dynamic where Blakc Widow was forced into the work of a spy by circustmances and the red room, and Taskmaster chose their line of work and hold no actual loyalty to anyone.

[@kli_avril]

i kinda wish that this taskmaster isnt the real one and the real one isnt brought up yet

[@dawritersroom01]

They took Taskmaster and tried to pull a Winter Soldier with her. But somehow, Marvel forgot just about everything that made the Winter Soldier work.

[@orangemonks894]

“Yo Mark! I’m from the Bronx!” -Taskmaster, probably

[@thepillowhead2453]

*country music intensifies*

[@darthbane5676]

Taskmaster was kind of a mindless drone in this movie, but by the end she was left in a position where they can pretty much do whatever they want with her. I don’t know how likely it is, but I’d like to see them give her another go now that she’s actually her own person. After all, with the chip still in her head despite the mind control’s negation, she pretty much has the same abilities as Tony Masters. Imagine if Antonia Dreykov found herself with nowhere to go, no one to turn to, and no clear path ahead, so she decided to put her combat skills to use as a mercenary while trying to figure herself out, and she gets in touch with some bad people along the way as she slowly starts to realize that what she’s doing is just as bad as what her father forced her to do. Maybe she eventually finds herself facing off against another superhero. What is she gonna do then? I don’t know. Just a thought.

[@RickReasonnz]

If they did that, she would feel like the Winter Soldier is now - Villian -> misunderstood victim of other villain -> sort of a hero. Would feel altogether samey.

[@darthbane5676]

@@RickReasonnz Maybe. Still better than giving us a Taskmaster who might as well be a robot and then pretending she doesn’t exist, if you ask me. I’m just trying to say they can do something with her.

[@ivanivan744]

A point about your Jackie Chan eulogy: That's a great way to explain Taskmaster's weakness, and why Deadpool counters Taskmaster

[@BlueBeetle1939]

Don't do that I had to in a panic google of Jackie Chan was alive there are so many words you could have used I love you but you're gonna give me a heart attack friend

[@WhiteRaven696]

Eulogy?! Jackie Chan died?!

[@iout]

I know "eulogy" doesn't necessarily mean the person has died, but it does come with the connotation and reading this comment nearly gave me a heart attack.

[@Captain-J-Amadaeus]

Do you mean analogy?

[@betterlatethannever4529]

I'd like to see the MCU actually gender bend a female character from the comics to a male on screen and see how Disney reacts to being called misogynistic for taking away a role for a woman. There are plenty of other villains that could have used, or even wait until the Deadpool film to bring Taskmaster into the MCU. Wouldn't even matter as much about the gender bend as long as the comic version's personality and traits remain.

[@Th390w3r]

Liked the movie except taskmaster

[@Tranzrights]

I think she'll come back as a hero

[@dante_0962]

Don’t forget about the time he saw someone performing an impressive dive on tv as a child, he done the same thing but he forgot to swim.

[@FinancialShinanigan]

It's sad negativity towards Taskmaster will label you as against women when it's Taskmaster's characterization we have issues with.

[@arturofernandez4058]

Very common corporate "feminism" tactic. Hide behind the woman to avoid criticism. The same problem as current Doctor Who. It went to shit because of writing and direction, not because of a woman doctor

[@Lordlaneus]

What characterisation? They had no free will the entire movie

[@jackhummer8344]

@@Lordlaneus That's part of the problem. It was literally just Winter Soldier while offering little of anything new.

[@DarkepyonX]

Yeah soo many people were upset about Brie and Cqp marvel it made over 1b and extended her contract by 5 pics . The whiners are a tiny batch of clueless retards that don't number enough to matter

[@Ragna_Rock54]

They should have used this history "Tony masters a. K. A taskmaster, a mercenary hired by dreycov to kill Natasha and yelena" this would have been better than that gender change, identity change and the cyborg stuff

[@rayhantasmaya3460]

That would draw parallels between him and Nat; a chained woman forced to be an assassin vs a free man that has already chosen to become an assassin.

[@jacoba6747]

@@rayhantasmaya3460 congrats you made taskmaster about 100x time more interesting😂🤣

[@rayhantasmaya3460]

@@jacoba6747 a lot more people have given their alternate versions of Taskmaster than the one that we got

[@nightmarefreddykrueger121]

It was during 2016 right so that helmet with the predicted tech has been around now by 2024, who’s to say it’s not being worn by the real one by now

[@porkchopsensei2742]

They literally left in the wreckage, SHIELD or SWORD or the US Gov't could just nab it and eventually assign some Agent Tony Masters to use it in the field. Boom, Taskmaster II.

[@mawinstallation6626]

@@porkchopsensei2742 Ex-SHIELD Agent Anthony Masters using Red Room Taskmaster tech that enhances his already excellent memory...that could work.

[@ArninoStorm]

Honestly, it's not the gender that's important to Taskmaster, it's the personality. They could be anything under the costume.

[@ArninoStorm]

@@ericcartman7361 could work, but i'd say the gender of Jean Grey is a lot more important to her character than it is to taskmaster. Even then I'd give it a shot.

[@petertracycarroll]

I’m hoping they do something similar to the mandarin where someone mentions that Tony masters is out there and retired or something and maybe he comes back eventually (He should be played by the guy who was the Task master stunt double he looked perfect)

[@ryanthaiable]

same

[@silverdays2909]

They already fucked it up I don't wanna get my hopes up for another failure

[@jensentet3183]

I swear to God if he tries to defend this, first it was Amber I am really hoping you're batting for the right team this time Drake.

[@kingkong9892]

If they wanted to make it feminist, wouldnt it have been better for black widow to take down a man like tony masters who believes he is the peak of human evolution?

[@anonymousgaslighter345]

That would offend a lot of people (guys to be more specific

[@toshomni9478]

Or at least give this version of Taskmaster some good dialog.

[@thelurker5950]

It honestly would have made way more sense and I would have preferred that over anything they did with the character in this film but what's done is done hopefully as we move forward they don't do stuff like this anymore. I mean really the character was fine they didn't need to change anything about him and decided no they want to change everything literally everything smh.

[@kingkong9892]

@@anonymousgaslighter345 I mean changing task master gender and film being a feminist film according to scarlett Johansson is already offending a lot of guys

[@starkillahx]

@@anonymousgaslighter345 wouldve preffered that instead of female taskmaster that does almost nothing the whole movie

[@Lordlaneus]

I think it's unfair to say the character is "ruined." The MCU can have Taskmaster show up again with a comic book accurate role and personality and it would be perfectly consistent with the ending of Black Widow. You don't even have to transfer the chip. The movie establishes Taskmaster's powers, but since they were under mind control the entire time, they are otherwise a totally blank slate with untarnished potential

[@pious83]

Except, historically, they don't do that. They don't re-interpret characters. For example, when the Fantastic Four arrive, they aren't going to portray the Skrulls as villains. As opposed to the depiction in Captain Marvel. Technically they haven't even done that with Mandarin. As the characterisation in Iron Man 3 and Shang Chi doesn't seem very compatible.

[@redhood7650]

@@pious83 yeah but in Iron Man 3 they had a big old bit of bullshit with a fakeout that lead to the infamous Ralph bohner incident

[@pious83]

@@redhood7650 It wasn't even that thought out. They genuinely tried to reinterpret Mandarin into _that,_ and it backfired massively. It's like if Magneto would have been in the early phases of the MCU. He would probably have been another guy in a business suit, that would have died at the end of one film. The main issue now is Shang Chi's Mandarin isn't an Iron Man villain. The name is essentially a legally distinct place holder for 'Fu Manchu'.

[@scifiguy9000]

@@pious83 On my research of the Mandarin, he also counts as a Shang-Chi in a minor capacity, and part of the list of Avengers villains.

[@pious83]

@@scifiguy9000 A wiki could tell you that in five minutes. The point is, Shang Chi's father is Fu Manchu. Who has been renamed in the MCU as 'the Mandarin'. They are not the same, nor is Fu Manchu an Iron Man or Avengers villain. For obvious reasons.

[@CRYDOLPHY]

I didn’t read the comics and I thought task master was ok in the movie but after seeing your perspective I understand all the hate. If the red guardian did a captain America reference during the fight with task master that would’ve been funny but oh well this is a random comment from someone in the internet stay awesome y’all

[@mrmintios8817]

Cool, you understand

[@geuse_mangaming6573]

I thought your cup said "worlds gayest dad" and I got way too excited lol

[@ComicDrake]

I'm unfortunately rather straight. :( Tried men, not my cup of tea.

[@NekoiNemo]

"If you're gonna take a character and change their name, gener, origin, nationality, abilities, personality and design - then you don't really want that character in your work". Missing one important thing - Brand recognition of their hero name, which, i suspect, is the only reason Taskmaster got chosen for the antagonist role in this movie. Everyone was excited for the "Black Widow vs Taskmaster", but very few people, especially ones who are only familiar with MCU, would go to watch "Black Widow vs C-list villain who appeared in maybe 4 issues in the 90s" or "Black Widow vs a brand new character with no history to their name we made up for this movie". 10:10 What about "Dun-dun-duun! The masked badass character is actually a girl! Surprised? Eat that, patriarchy! Now give us a lot of money because we pandered to you, please" angle? Because really, what other reason is there for Taskmaster's gender to be changed?

[@jasoningramx3731]

I completely agree with you and the thing is I would even say them changing certain things isn't too bad like if they wanted to gender bend the character then be upfront about it and just have her clearly be a female but actually make her taskmaster and give her a personality, maker her a mercenary and make her cool because if done right it could work. But instead they try so hard for the twist to be that she's a woman that it just completely takes away from the character plus making her a lot less interesting, and only the character in name. And honestly I really do think if they put actual work into making an original character for the movie and making that character interesting it could work. Sure the character won't be has recognized but that gives you a lot more room to experiment and make her unique and come into her own. A great example of this is harly Quinn or batman beyond.

[@Matthew.E.Kelly.]

I think they just made Taskmaster a woman to specifically avoid the conservative snowflake bitching & whining about Romanova & Belova taking down a male Taskmaster for girlboss points 🙄 it literally doesn't matter which way they did it, conservatives are going to whine & cry either way. So they did what they did to make it a girl-centric story. Black Widow is not a shitlib "yassssss queen" girlboss in the comics. So let them have their marketing ploy in the movies. It has wider appeal & will attract more people to the comics 🤷 It has nothing to do with feminism & everything to do with marketing.

[@ADAJ342]

As for the second thing, they made taskmaster a woman because the main villain was a woman traffiquer. Empowering women is actually the exact oposite of what task-master embodies in that movie funnily enough.

[@brandoncameron8467]

The Taskmaster reveal only bugs me by being too similar to Ghost

[@DiehardMechWarrior]

9:06 Lord Zedd is a wonderful design from the Power Rangers franchise! You take that back!

[@MasonTheYoung]

I think it would have been better if taskmaster was a mercenary who what’s his face hired to get the vials so his black widows weren’t at risk

[@parkercornwall3230]

I really hope this is a situation like the mandarin where it isn’t the real taskmaster.

[@pablosilva6932]

Here's the thing about the character who can copy their enemies' abilities trope: Like you said it requires the heroes to be creative, but also, it requires the writers to be creative when it comes coming uo with a solution. A good example of that was seen in JLU when the one to defeat Amazo after the latter wiped the floor with the justice league was lex luthor, and not through pulling a suit that could defeat amazo out his ass, he did it by making Amazo reflect on his own purpose. Vision did something similar against white vision in Wandavision and that is still one of my favourite moments from the MCU.

[@diablojones]

Kinda like when Prometheus handed the JLA their asses and it was a visiting Catwoman who ended up beating him.

[@MidnightPhantom]

If they wanted a female Taskmaster, I feel like they should have used Echo.

[@kingkong9892]

This taskmaster isnt anything like echo either though. They should've just made her a new character

[@AceOfPhanatic]

They should have just used his daughter Who literally has the same powers named Finesse

[@MidnightPhantom]

@@kingkong9892 But what I am saying is they should have used Echo if they wanted a Taskmaster like character.

[@kingkong9892]

@@MidnightPhantom oh then yeah

[@ExeErdna]

@@AceOfPhanatic That'll require them reading and or caring about the comics. Yet you're right

[@codyp49]

"Mishandling Taskmaster doesn't make Black Widow a bad movie," Well he was the only reason I cared about the movie sooooooo... movie bad

[@ADAJ342]

Really? Huh, I did not know so many task-master stans existed.

[@Darkdragonhero1]

@@ADAJ342 bruh there's so many cuz how cool he is

[@phelps6205]

Is not like the other aspects of the movie are good either.

[@misterzygarde6431]

I take it that they should have given the Movie version of Taskmaster a different name

[@mawinstallation6626]

The Headmistress. Movie Taskmaster is almost exactly like the Comics Headmistress.

[@ExeErdna]

@Cuddly Savage They could have called her "Huntsman" which is a type of Spider and called it a day.

[@theknightjester]

Black Widow would have been enhanced with a proper Taskmaster

[@Me-wx1mt]

I miss ps4 task master where he’s like “I’ve been watching you for a long time, Spider-Man.” Now *she’s* all “*labored breathing*”. Just say a clever one-liner or something.

[@vesper1799]

I love how he teases you throughout the fight as well

[@Me-wx1mt]

@@vesper1799 lol

[@pious83]

To be honest, the Crimson Dynamo name drop bugged me more. Considering Iron Man was essentially the poster child for the MCU, his rogues gallery has been virtually non-existent onscreen. Where was Ultimo, Titanium Man & Crimson Dynamo, Whirlwind etc They are finally starting to actually make visually impressive and diverse villains in the MCU. It is just a shame that Iron Man and Hulk's rogues are largely absent.

[@IdkIdk-vm4dm]

Maybe if we get an Armor Wars series. Or, and I hope nto, one of them becomes Iron heart's villains

[@daxsama]

Damn, I didn't think too much of the taskmaster changes until I went on the internet and saw the crazy backlash, but they're right. Taskmaster could've been so much more than just a mute with a scarred face. Really wish they gave her a speaking role and more of a personality in this film. Also thought they kinda wasted Red Guardian in this movie, David Harbour killed it but he just didn't get much time to shine in this movie 😐. Thought the movie was enjoyable though

[@startenderspacebar]

I love my blue reflective lens because I look like an anime villain in every selfie

[@evanlight2550]

The whole film I called Taskmaster Machine Head, as in the gang boss from Invincible. And I still laugh at it

[@thedeed8740]

Taskmaster being a woman isn’t something I was hoping for but it’s definitely not a problem Now if they didn’t change everything about the character the antagonist might have been the best part of the movie

[@heisensama]

Just like the Mandarin was insulted like a goddamn puppet by Iron Man III

[@qwellen7521]

You get that the original mandarin was a racist stereotype and that was part of meta text/critique of nationalism iron man 3 was making right?

[@matti.8465]

@@qwellen7521 I never thought about it that way. He WAS portrayed as the east terrorist stereotype, so I'm glad they subverted this by making him a literal propaganda figurehead.

[@mawinstallation6626]

He wasn't exactly a puppet, he was a pseudo member of the Ten Rings who fancied himself the name of the legendary Mandarin, without knowing the real Mandarin still exists...it was implied sadly on that forgettable Iron Man 3 one-shot

[@qwellen7521]

@@matti.8465 the perfect sales pitch for why your country should by your bombs and guns. iron man 3 is far more nuanced than most people give it credit for.

[@ianar2631]

Somewhere in the MCU a former SHIELD Agent named Tony Masters will acquire the Taskmaster Protocol.

[@vocalgamer9222]

You, good sir, have summed up my feelings for what they've done with Tony Masters.

[@santinowest]

The Power Ranger toy you had was a Trans Dagger from Power Rangers Lost Galaxy.

[@alexwimberly1268]

So somehow my gf figured out halfway through the movie that Taskmaster was gonna be a woman and around that point I found it weird that the character was so deeply programmed by the Red Room. After the big reveal I felt peeved we got faked out of seeing og Taskmaster but I also found myself really impressed with the movie version of Taskmaster still.

[@maximusnextinline4513]

Glad you still were impressed cause I was also and Taskmaster has a daughter in the comics who has his abilities so it could easily be her and they could both exist

[@diablojones]

You can tell it’s a woman due to her build and the way she moved.

[@alexwimberly1268]

@@diablojones towards the end maybe but for the most part they had a male stunt actor play Taskmaster.

[@masonjar213_]

What if it turned out dreykov actually died but tony masters saved his daughter and she kept on with the red room and kept taskmaster to defend her- then Natasha would face her past with Antonia and we would still get the real taskmaster

[@liammcguire1954]

Taskmaster was one of my main gripes with the movie. They made this charismatic wise cracking mercenary into a soulless and silent shell. I thought the movie was ok, but it was disappointing. Then again what do you expect when you have Jac Schaffer writing this film, who has admitted she’s terrible at reading comics?

[@RickReasonnz]

Hm. Genuinely curious as to how someone can be bad *at* reading comics. Not enjoying comics, I can understand, but not being able to use an elementary reading skill? Sounds unfortunate.

[@liammcguire1954]

@@RickReasonnz she said herself, “I am not a very good comic reader. I have a hard time digesting the storylines and never know which cell to look at”. This quote reveals just how clueless she is about marvel. When asked about mephisto in wandavision, she legit had no idea who he was, a character who is heavily involved in her arc. She literally uses shards of his own soul to give birth to her two sons, which led to house of m, which wandavision is based on

[@RickReasonnz]

@@liammcguire1954 FFS. The exact type of person who SHOULDN'T be involved in a comic book movie. What on earth could Marvel see as a positive for hiring her?

[@liammcguire1954]

@@RickReasonnz my guess would be that they either had all the good writers leave them, leaving them that desperate or decided to hire her cause she’s a woman, only because of her gender and not because of her talent. For social points, cause they gotta appease the metoos! Know this might seem anti sjwish, but I only say this because I’ve been noticing their diversity feels so forced in their more recent pieces of media such as everyone seeming to be sex changed for their counterpart. That’s a trend I’ve been noticing. They’re prolly more concerned with making money than a well written story because disney is so cocky and complacent with in their own brand. Like they’ve barely advertised the Eternals whatsoever, with the director of the movie only having directed one film. I honestly hope it fails so it can give them a much needed wake up call. I can write a better marvel movie plot in my sleep compared to writers now. Get the writers of daredevil on the shows. I loved the Daredevil TV show with all my heart. I felt like Black Widow deserved better. She should get the same treatment as joker. The mystery of her character is what makes her intriguing

[@matthiasfoo1217]

@@liammcguire1954 congratulations...you've just summed up post 2020 Hollywood and television... especially that part about comic movies hiring the worst directors for the job

[@BAEN1834]

Don’t worry, in 7 years in phase 15 we will finally get teased with the real taskmaster and then get him in a movie 5 movies later.

[@Skywardsaiyan]

I said this on Twitter and I’ll say this again, I didn’t know how much I liked taskmaster til they did him dirty

[@simonmann4922]

Agree the gender swap wasn’t shocking at all because it’s the mcu but my problem is that they gender swaped an already existing character instead of making a completely new character like Iron Maiden is practically a female taskmaster minus the mimic abilities so why not just use her instead?

[@MattJammer]

The Taskmaster change feels very similar to what the MCU did with the Mandarin in Iron Man 3. Hopefully they can work the actual Taskmaster into the MCU. Like maybe the Red Room took that chip and based it off of what Taskmaster can actually do, hence calling her that.

[@0LycanFX]

So here's the thing they basically made Taskmaster a worse Prometheus.

[@FRCB]

What really bugged me the most about Taskmaster was that “she” never spoke smh

[@CaptainCat101]

I watched Ultimate Spider-Man shortly before Black Widow, and I really liked Taskmaster. I HATED the Black Widow movie (it was so boring), and Taskmaster felt like Deadpool in X-Men Origins. I could've accepted the new Taskmaster if the reveal wasn't treated as a massive deal in the trailers and actually had a good payoff

[@DoraKage]

That wasn't an adaptation of Taskmaster... that was a completely original work that suited the movie and Natasha's backstory... But they needed a Villain name with some pull - and a matching action gimmick to go with it. So they chose Taskmaster to be the sacrificial lamb, skinned him and had her literately wear his hide and pranced around on the big screen, spitting in the faces of fans of the source material. Nothing of Taskmaster was left other than the Name and "the concept of copying moves". What's the point of brand loyalty then? The moral of the situation is, if any of you have an affinity toward certain characters - they're all up on the chopping block, fair game to be sliced and put thru the creative meat grinder and be used as something completely unrecognizable.

[@permeus2nd]

so it just clicked why i am so sad about the character, it got the Captain Phasma treatment.

[@RickReasonnz]

Ooh! You're right. DAMN I loved how good Phasma looked. Course, they'd done that before with Boba Fett.

[@Aragorn7884]

They ruined my boy...😭

[@9Maciej]

Taskmaster being a woman is not an issue, but the fact that the character as a generic bad guy whose honestly just a puppet. Really the twist of Task being a woman really doesn't matter in the big picture, cause she could have been a literal robot and nothing would change about the character. And even if a "feminism move" than great job, they made a lame female character that wasn't even allowed to speak. Also, the ending suggest that we might not see Taskmaster again. And if we did, it might be she as hero (which is lame) or if it's a villain that is likely a different character (making Black Widow more unnecessary than it already was imo).

[@jacksonbrickmedia939]

At least it was cool that they foreshadowed nat blowing up his daughter in Budapest all the way back in avengers 1

[@betterlatethannever4529]

Wait, wasn't Budapest a running gag that was joked about throughout the films? Were they actually joking about an incident that lead to the murder of a child?

[@vesper1799]

@@betterlatethannever4529 yeah its safe to say the story wasnt actually planned out since Avengers 1

[@betterlatethannever4529]

@@vesper1799 it had great potential to be a buddy cop film with Natasha and Clint, but noooo. They had to do it their way.

[@3n3my33]

I think the best thing going forward would be to shape MCU's Taskmaster into something closer to the comics. She can still become a wisecracking villain that trains goons, why not? Maybe give her a more skull-shaped mask while they're at it

[@watershipfalls5520]

Here's my Remake of Taskmaster, He's a guy, Tony Masters, A traitor of Shield and an Old Rival or Natasha and Clint, Who betrays SHIELD and becomes a mercenary, After Civil War, Ross hires him to hunt down and Capture Black Widow, He tracks her to Russia and teams up with the Red room to get her.

[@devinharp4321]

God damn right we are mad they gave taskmaster the x men origins wolverine Deadpool treatment

[@theamazingmaymay123]

Honestly…it threw me Alll the way off. The gender change didn’t bug me as much as story and use of the character.

[@bboybriang7028]

So like I’m a big fan of Taskmaster, so here is my ball park theory. What if just like how Red Guardian is the Soviet Union copy of Captain America, Russians tried to have a copy of the extremely successful American Taskmaster??? I know it’s a really out there theory, but they dissed my all time villain so hard that my brain is trying to make sense of it.

[@bboybriang7028]

Actually tho, MCU dissed a good and complex villain so hard