Black Women Have Never Been Safe In The Beauty Community Online ... l Too Much Mouth

[@mimiix935]

Everyone was calling out Patrick Ta for putting out an overpriced foundation but all of sudden everyone got YSL money 😂 antiblackness is crazy. Also it’s funny how we’re told to support the brands that cater to us and leave the white brands alone but remember how pale and light skinned folks had so much to say about Juvia’s Place blushes having too much pigment? How ironic

[@TrishyNoel]

Soooo ironic 😂 they are crazyyyy

[@jascook5127]

Facts

[@iqueenb337]

CLOCK IT

[@krisdiane]

What even is too much pigment? If something is super pigmented, I see it as good thing since it means I can use less.

[@bambitnyembo]

CLOCK THAT MF TEA!

[@orilocs]

That’s why I buy mostly Black brands like Juvia’s Place, LYS, and The Lipbar. I vote with my money.

[@Iwasonceanonionwithnolayers]

Danessa Myricks out here for the girlies ❤ love she's finding such success

[@SRLovesPandas1]

and Pat McGrath!

[@krisdiane]

"Why would you expect a brand that sent you products to have a product that works for you?" yo, that's a fucking crazy question. I'm so sorry you have to deal with that, but that made me laugh. The stupidity is unreal.

[@Shanygne]

You’d be surprised how many times I’ve gotten this

[@TheLittleras]

Those comments really puts in perspective how they (non-black/people with lighter skin-tones) think speaking up on the inclusivity and antiblackness is hating. Which is crazy to me because racism/anti-blackness is violence and people keep trivializing it and its disturbing me. Keep speaking up and I believe darker skinned girlies need to keep speaking up!

[@Shanygne]

We’re literally expected to just sit there and take it

[@TheLittleras]

@@Shanygne exactly!

[@laverderslemonade]

“Why you bother me when you know you don’t want me?” -SZA

[@syd658]

The same people mad at Golloria are starting to use another darker-skinned creator as a token. Commenting "See this is how you do a review" and tagging her.

[@Autumn_Rivers]

Been here since 2015/2016 you have saved me so much money and wasted time... Someone else hyped it up because they it was sent to them or they were sponsored and it was CRAP.. But Shanygne said it " Don't waste your time".. Yup learned my lesson... Always listen to Shanygne. Just know you are appreciated and all that you do is Appreciated

[@Shanygne]

🫶🏾🫶🏾 thank you

[@rochellemurrell4146]

You are so right. In fact I always check with Shanygne to see if a review has been posted before I make any major beauty purchase because I know I’m going to get real talk!

[@problematic_fav]

2024 and ish ain't changed in this space, people and brands know what thier doing at this point

[@Shanygne]

Very much so do!!

[@TheRonnieaj]

Look! I am 45 years old, halfway (or more) through my life, and we STILL can’t get decent foundation shades and folks telling us to be happy with what we’ve got? I was having this issue in 1992, when my Fenty 420 behind was the darkest shade of MANY brands. And more than 30 years later they still can’t act right? It’s INFURIATING

[@LindaMitchell]

Thank you for talking about this topic. Black women were always supposed to be conciliatory and grateful to just be included. Nah! We're not going back or asking permission anymore. We going to speak out about the things that matter to us and our community. Our darker complexion sisters don't get the grace and protection they deserve. That needs to change. Please know I...we support you and all the Black women that move the needle for us and the ones coming behind you. ❤

[@cosmeticbelgrave]

Okurrr!

[@michelleandrea5481]

Reasons why FENTY, DANESSA, AND PAT WILL ALWAYS GET MY MONEY

[@Deanna0456]

Exactly! I don’t care how many shades of pink Pat releases she gonna always get my money first! I don’t give a damn

[@DepressiveCookie]

I never understand these people who say we shouldn't ask these companies to make more shades and just go to companies that sell for our complexion. How does that make sense? And they always want to jump in with 'I'm pale amd can't find my shade' go sit down

[@Neenerella333]

Dude. Never ever ever shut up. Keep on keeping on. I come to the youtubers(like Shanygne) BECAUSE they are critical. You are saving me money. If it doesn't work for you, I never see it as hateration. I see it as constructive criticism. Ad hominem insults are always gonna be stupid. I'm so sorry this crap finds its way to you. Edited to add: K Beauty is not on my radar because it's not inclusive. Skin care, maybe someday.

[@Shanygne]

Oh I will, cause they won’t beat my ass tho

[@sashton67]

People also need to know that the reason tir tir and other Korean brands expanded their shade range is because of a black influencer her name is Darcy. I’m not surprised by the Gloria situation, especially after seeing the gas lighting she got from the youthforia foundation. I just hope that she is doing better and getting her piece of mind.

[@Justcetriyaart]

still bothered as asians do come in much much darker shades

[@ColleenOfTheLame]

Very good points! It's so bizarre to me that people get personally offended when other people don't like the same things they like. Especially when it's an objective problem with the product (like when there isn't a good shade range)!!!

[@Shanygne]

Ppl don’t touch grass enough

[@evekusimba9575]

when i was a makeup artist and all my clients were brown and dark skin women i really only used black opal and professional makeup brands makeup that is sold in sephora and ulta wouldn’t even carry darker shades in store ! Why make the shade and not carry it in store insanity

[@TheMissNewNew32]

I chose to buy from brands that support my skin tone . I don’t buy from brands that don’t. Less talking and more shifting our money to brands that are for us.

[@rl4195]

Black women are being gaslight!

[@NB-ww3dy]

This so sad. We will keep all of you- black beauty content creators- in prayer!🙏🏽

[@cosmeticbelgrave]

Right!

[@Shanygne]

Thank you babes 🫶🏾

[@chynadoll6682]

Remember this hard pill to swallow “ all skin folk ain’t kin folk”. Something I’ve had to learn and still remind myself . I’m older and still hurts.

[@essjayjaxyn6346]

Nyma 💕 Oheema 💕 TooMuch Mouth 💕 Jackie 💕

[@FearfullyandWonderfullyMade.]

I’m glad you’re talking about her. Never knew Golloria is South Sudanese. 🇸🇸 So am I. Hope she comes back. Her content affects me too.

[@nancykerrigan]

Great video. The way some people care for businesses who only care for their money is wild. These anti-capitalist content creators may have something. I feel like the, "Just buy black-owned brands" is giving "Go back to Africa!" Like yeah I am grateful to buy from black owned brands but I have a complexion like every other human and have the right to have options. And like you said, BOBs may not be so accessible to everyone for a lot of reasons like price, shipping logistics, no brick and mortar space, so yeah we should have options.

[@SolarVixen]

It’s also companies BAITING us to talk about it and get more promo for their brand. They expect us and ppl to talk about them not including us etc for promo

[@tyishastephen]

Exactly so we need to stop giving them free promo. Ignore them, we need to get what works for us and forget the rest. Like I get what glorilla is doing but it’s not worth it in the end. The fight isn’t always worth your mental health.

[@taniad9950]

Hi Shanygne this is why I keep coming back for your content. You are true, authentic and genuine. I've always appreciated your honesty and candor. Stay true beautiful Queen 💖💐💐💐🙌🏾

[@lenah5513]

Thanks for sharing wisdom. I was pleased to hear that some of the companies you have critiqued have let you know they've played your videos to help them learn. You help them get better and you help me choose better. I appreciate what you offer.

[@jessicarabbit381]

i refuse to lip wrestle with / about a brand that treats my sistas and brothas like we are an inconvience. I've been approached by ppl in stores that ask me what brand i'm wearing, then proceed to tell me why i should change and wear "their" brand.🙄🙄 The best way for us to speak volumes without saying a single word is to stop paying them to disrespect us. We did it before, then they all came running with 50 clown shades that we were supposed to be "grateful" for 😂😂💀💀 Shanygne, thank you for being a voice and bringing positivity to the influencer platform.

[@Khaowla]

Influencers should call out brands those are our heroes. Brands love to slap on all the attractive labels without doing any work. Also if you don't like the video stop watching it, what works for you doesn't work for others.

[@WrapsslingsandHarmony]

I followed Jackie from the beginning and the backlash she got for calling brands out and still today Golloria is getting that same backlash. Mules is the perfect word they want us to work and take the abuse but dont say nothing about their problematic faves.

[@Sarah-kv3qs]

Jackie saved so many black girl's time and money and I am surprised her KZbin subscriber count is so low

[@thickbrownlegs1859]

I love when I follow a content creator and they are honest with their review because it save me money. I don’t have to buy crap. It’s 2024 and I feel like thing have not change much at all. I thought when Fenty hit the market space things would have changed but nope it’s back to business as per usual.

[@leoniemills4918]

Nyma literally said she had to stop cos it was so draining, it feels like despite all the pioneers nothing changes.

[@sumlem]

It's major bullshit because the tides of commenters who harass creators who seem inauthentic. Like yes call it out because honesty should be above trying to stay on a PR list. But people can't STAND when Black creators advocate for themselves and give their honest opinion. The tone policing, the insults, the comments that say "it shouldn't be for everyone", "be grateful". It's bullshit. I also hate the people who are like "I'm pale and I have it just as bad to find makeup" I'm a Sephora employee, it's my job to find shade matches. I can find lighter shade matches easier, I even have shades memorized. Telling people to shut up and be complacent makes my job harder. It's bullying people out of the makeup space. It's weirdo behavior to defend brands that pretend to be inclusive.

[@KB-hj3zs]

The stans truly believe they will get something from their 'allegiance' - they just want a come up and to be a part of the crowd that is getting stuff. It's this corny willful cognitive dissonance that is both sad and hilarious. I hope that Golloria can heal and come back if the chooses. That we still have to call out brands for playing in our deep chocolate faces tells us that her and other voices are still needed. These brands don't give two sh*ts about anything much other than the dollars you are willing to part with. How dare we speak up for ourselves regardless of the platform/modality/forum. This is why folks are big mad at us now - cause dare to use the voice we have to advocate for parity. Uncle Ruckus comes in all shapes, sizes, genders and races.

[@Tmac19635]

When the beauty community really took root on KZbin we were watching everyone that was supposed to be all that. Their makeup was beautiful and I wanted to know how they do it. I feel like I'm slow because I didn't know about something called "Face Tune". So I'm watching videos on KZbin and going to the drug store to buy Black Radiance or Milani. They had shades that I can use, a face palette with bronzers and blushes that I can use. And I've gotten compliments while wearing those products. It just became clear that apparently some brands weren't interested in making money from certain groups. Fenty changed the game. It became apparent that we will spend our money on a good product that does what it says it does. What we found out back in the day was that some influencers were flat out lying about a product because they were getting paid 10k or more for one post. Anyway I'm going on and on. Thank You Shanygne you always make me think

[@bobbies1562]

I hear you. Yes, TirTir needs to expand their shade range to include deeper shades with yellow and olive undertones. That lavender YSL blush -- have you seen the promo pictures for it? They are ridiculous. OMG! The things people say are insane. 😠

[@leighwhite5678]

Because of you, I will NEVER buy Tarte!

[@13ikea]

I think this is all a marketing ploy🤷🏾‍♀️. These companies profit from outrage and its purposeful atp.

[@yahainHotPink]

I love honest reviews. I bought something from an Afro Latina owned brand and after vibing with the brand owner online, and taking note of her no returns policy, I was fine. But I share candles online and give honest feedback for the burn experience when I do. I was disappointed by her nasty attitude toward me when she did not like me saying the burn barely caught on no matter what I tried. I stopped following her due to her behavior

[@yahainHotPink]

I follow her on KZbin as I do not have Tik Tok. A youtuber recently shared Golloria/Gloria's message about taking a break from online content. I hope she comes back soon as she feels up to it. Love her posts

[@NisyaLee141]

I've always appreciated how you explain why common sense ain't common. Ppl are so out of touch with reality but swear they have all the answers. I truly wonder if those same ppl were given anonymous statements on a paper (that they've said), would they even see the conflicts

[@miya6507]

It’s good to know which companies are inclusive. It’s the begging to be picked that’s annoying

[@briirene3156]

It just feels like ain’t nothing changed but the date in the beauty space smh you hit the nail on the head on every single point 🤌🏽👏🏽

[@indrinita]

I love how you speak on important issues in the beauty community, beauty news and developments in products in such a comprehensive and informed way. It's one of the reasons I keep coming back to your channel even though I'm not even looking for new makeup products or tutorials anymore. Life really is different when you're Black - and we should ALL know about it!!

[@jojomos2827]

“You’re not alone” period

[@amiam8116]

Thanks Shangyne, this was an important conversation wnd the Tirtir comments section was wild, as was the Ysl discord. And its always the people who have their shade that have an issue, when you call it out. Are we moving towards a "wyts only" section in Sephora? I also think that rage bait video is a big part of their marketing strategy.

[@joannixon2845]

Thank you for this video; i am 59 years old and I applaud you and your influencer community for continuing support the beauty industry, but more importantly your transparency. In the middle of all of this is the black owned brands are still providing us beautiful products. Racism is here to stay, and your beauty influencer community continues to bring these types of issues to us, remember your influence on this issue is “Social Justice.” Never stop speaking out! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@charlicepischke1914]

People can be so draining! 🤦🏾

[@patriciathompson6483]

I couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you for touching on every point, including how sometimes the harshest criticism comes from people who look like us. I'm glad you have Too much mouth.

[@krisdiane]

I appreciate you, and I hope that you do finally see things change in this space. ❤

[@Shanygne]

Thank you

[@home-818]

This video was everything!!!

[@jaylaberry7979]

Clock it Shanygne!

[@YurrahAlHadi]

They also like to use us by taking the things we say to make their brands better while not paying us. Like how that one company said that they were using your videos in their meetings. Did they cut you a check sis?

[@donnac.3273]

Great video. You told the entire truth. Peace of mind is everything.

[@abookishmess]

Imagine being upset that a brand is lacking and taking it out on the content creator for explaining that it is lacking 😭😭

[@lauraturner7048]

Thank you for highlighting this. I saw the beauty influencer try on the deepest shade of Youthforia Foundation. It was awful. I don’t think actual people with deep complexions were even consulted for the shade creation. I am mixed race and I totally agree with your point. Don’t claim Inclusivity if you aren’t Inclusive.

[@Solange94]

So glad I don’t make social media my life anymore

[@jacquelinelugo5518]

As they say, not all money is good money. I am with y'all, some of these brands are over 60-70 years old. Went through segregation, and still don't want to get with the times. But want our money when they see them 4th quarter reports come back. And see that they are losing money. I have had enough, they grown andl know what they are doing. I stopped looking for them, truly seek brands that are inclusive. These brands don't want to change, then we are not buying.

[@RosetteAckesson]

Thank you for speaking on this

[@DonnaleeC.]

I just know my clapbacks are not for the weak. So I just dont post.

[@elizabethsylver6794]

Great advice! Thank you for using your voice and helping us navigate the beauty space.

[@sams2946]

I have definitely seen & heard what is going on. I like you will say what it is I want to say about brands, Sephora & Ulta missteps because I'm well aware that they can & should do better. I also don't mess with brands that don't cater to me (dark chocolate skinned diva). I am in the DINKS demograhic that they want to buy from them. I have lots of disposable income, so brands can't afford to piss off people who can buy luxury products cause they won't stay in business. I've seen when I've complained that they fix their issues. It's slow, but it does change.

[@yahainHotPink]

"Turn it on!!" Yes. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@kairos-049]

People were in Gloria’s comments with the same stupid talking points, I can’t even blame her for taking a step back. You can spit facts til you’re blue in the face and there will always, always, always be people who just don’t want to understand. Always the, “They don’t have to make your shade” she doesn’t have to accept that and not speak up. It’s so simple, she’s literally allowed to critique brands and if “nobody cares” like these bozos insist then she literally wouldn’t have a platform. Like, it’s so simple babes, rub some brain cells together.

[@Kay.m_]

I wish you included some screenshots or screen recordings. It’s hard to follow for those of us not on TT and IG

[@Justcetriyaart]

"its going to fit someone" so? there's not making shades that fit *us* right now. Thats the complaint. Not that the pitch black exist, but that it exist with out our shades as if visibly parodying our skin shades.

[@sydneyboston]

The rage baiting coming from these big brands is tiring.

[@yahainHotPink]

I love your reviews so much!

[@Carpathianpixie]

Girl, the people who keep telling plus sized woman to lose weight never cease to amaze me with their stupidity. 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@tricksgrl2]

Where are Black women safe?? Asking for a friend…

[@ARP1985]

You are SO on point in this video and I THANK YOU 🖤

[@sydneyboston]

I see right through all of the black women defending brands like TirTir. It’s big ‘pick me’ energy.

[@gasolinepearl6567]

Well said!

[@Mlnn_matta]

Heavy on turn it on!!!

[@kittykattastegood]

Love you always. ❤😂😂😂😂😂

[@thelmanwobi8063]

❤❤❤❤

[@SOYERINDE]

Not all skin folks are kinfolks

[@kristanw385]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@Debbie_George]

100

[@TheMadsVolta]

It’s so ridiculous to me that people even think some makeup brands are “white brands” and “black brands” why are we ok with this segregation in the makeup industry? Why would you support and defend a makeup company that shows over and over again that they don’t care to think about deeper skin tones when they make their products..

[@TheMadsVolta]

People wanting to just support black owned brands after getting burned time and time again by brands that don’t consider them is completely understandable. But those brands STILL include everyone in their products. Other “white brands” need to do better.

[@JasmineBaker]

As an artist I've also seen people try to bully artists into making them draw people and be representative of every color & body type when they really don't have to. The person makes the art, and people can like it or not like it, everything doesn't need to include everyone. I don't need to draw everyone, I don't need to draw obese or underweight people if I choose not to😂 and it's not like people are buying everyone's art

[@Mimi-ht6xr]

Be completely honest sis. It’s darker skinned and brown skinned Black and Brown women who have difficulties with these beauty companies. This has been problematic since l was a teenager 0 years ago. Don’t lump lightskin women of color with white women, because until the beautiful Bajan Queen Rihanna came out with her makeup line, we were having major cosmetics problems too. Melanated skin tones can be shades of light, medium, and dark. ❤❤❤

[@Shanygne]

This is not a conversation about products it’s about how black woman content creators are treated by VIEWERS on the internet and it is not same across the board even just amongst black women. Saying we’re all melanated minimizes the issue at hand. Same way I’d be minimizing a black plus size woman’s point if I tried to say well we’re both black.

[@hittingthewall1452]

Why are you expecting white ppl to know how to make makeup for black skin tones? How about black ppl form their own makeup companies?

[@Shanygne]

Dense

[@Risu34is17x2]

13:47 At this point, i don't know how they expect you to respond. All those people need to touch grass and get off the computer. Total side note: for pieces like this, would you ever consider doing one off podcasts for talk pieces like this? Because I saw this upload while I was out and about and wished it was on Spotify so I could listen to it while I was driving lol

[@laverderslemonade]

Commenting to boost 🪻☀️