$100 budget Performance Predator 212

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Black66

Black66

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@rapidtransit8373
@rapidtransit8373 2 жыл бұрын
I remember I was 9 yrs. old had a paper route. I lived in Pompano bch. Florida. I saved all my money wanting a mini-bike. Saved 200 dollars that was a lot of money back then. I went to Uniroyal bought a green 3 1/2 horse clinton minibike for that 200 bucks I had. It did 50 mph. God I was in heaven..
@A6q4
@A6q4 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like good times
@dudegalen
@dudegalen Жыл бұрын
50mph at 9 years old is warp speed
@GLEECED
@GLEECED Жыл бұрын
Broward county 💪🏼
@rapidtransit8373
@rapidtransit8373 Жыл бұрын
​@@A6q4it was I was riding it in a bank parking lot after it was closed a cop stopped me. My dad came out and told him off. Told him don't u have anything better to do. My dad was great.😊
@rapidtransit8373
@rapidtransit8373 Жыл бұрын
​@@GLEECEDI love Broward county but it's not like it use to be. But I'm still here after 55 yrs. Thanks for the reply.
@michaelblaes9847
@michaelblaes9847 Жыл бұрын
I was blown away when you lost a whole second on 0-30. It made me watch the whole video. Cool channel.
@steveblottenberger1097
@steveblottenberger1097 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I got a twin out there this is Steve from Annapolis Maryland doing the same thing I just turned 59 years old and I thought I was looking at myself and I just watched your video I'm not the only one out there playing with mini bikes awesome and all the little hot rod tricks makes two of us
@kristopherkordenbrock9097
@kristopherkordenbrock9097 Жыл бұрын
Man do I love your channel!!! I have been into minibikes for 20 years, got my son one a ct100u a couple weeks ago and he found your channel and has watch every one of your videos.i ha e to say you do an amazing job of not only explaining what your doing but also kill it with logging and comparing results. Grat job bro keep that content coming 👌
@SDS-1
@SDS-1 2 жыл бұрын
I watch all the big mini bike and go-kart channels and you are becoming my favorite. Thanks for the excellent straight to the point videos
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Im glad you like the videos
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
@@MR_IC Yes, I think the flywheel taper on the T1 and T2 are the same . It should fit.
@PopeyesCreeper
@PopeyesCreeper 2 жыл бұрын
you're going to blow up if you keep up the consistent content.. I'm just glad I'm here to witness the growth, the effort you put into these is amazing, we are lucky to have someone who has this kind of passion here on youtube, with that being said.... would LOVE to see this in 224 form, maybe not budget, but semi budget like 300 dollar limit, enough for billet parts at least.
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I would like to do a budget build 224. I'm not sure if you have seen the 224 playlist . Not totally budget but there is stuff on the playlist you can do for not much money. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn_ZopePocSbl9k
@PopeyesCreeper
@PopeyesCreeper 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 I have watched the playlist, Have you considered a flat top piston on the 224? I've only seen Kentucky Fried fixes do it and he hasn't applied the engine to anything yet.. My plan is a 6271 Arc rod with a flat top piston in my build
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
@@PopeyesCreeper Ya, I want to build another 224. I'll do it with the flattop next rime around and some different parts than I used in the current one . Like a different cam and rod.
@B5s4
@B5s4 2 жыл бұрын
@@PopeyesCreeper a budget and a limit is the same thing in ways. It’s whatever amount of time, money, etc. you set for something in order to accomplish whatever it is you are trying to do. You asked not to do a budget but semi budget limit 🤔🥴🫠
@PopeyesCreeper
@PopeyesCreeper 2 жыл бұрын
@@B5s4 you commented on a 7 month old thread to not even prove a point my guy?
@LousPanda
@LousPanda 3 ай бұрын
Me and my cousin watch all your videos. you’ve helped us put together a sick collection of 5 mini bikes and a go kart. thanks bro 😎 🙏
@Black66
@Black66 3 ай бұрын
That is awesome! Thanks for watching the videos.
@rene_from_so_cal
@rene_from_so_cal Ай бұрын
We just bought my kids first 212 and we're going to use the parts listed here. Thanks again!
@Black66
@Black66 Ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@predator_boiz336
@predator_boiz336 Жыл бұрын
After getting addicted to minibikes after your videos I built a 60 mph predator for probably around $100 ; done the governor removal, 24mm nibbi, header pipe I got off Facebook for cheap, and 18 Lbs valve springs, on a ct200u frame 10t clutch 50t sprocket , will run 57-60 all day
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a beast! Glad I could help.
@predator_boiz336
@predator_boiz336 Жыл бұрын
@@Black66 oh I got rid of the ct200u frame last night lol, found a kid that traded me even for a 1980’s sensation frame , he had no idea what he had lol; definitely hats off to you for my new hobby! Thinking about getting a rascal lite kit, hard to beat that for $500
@kusinx800
@kusinx800 5 ай бұрын
how long did your engine last
@predator_boiz336
@predator_boiz336 5 ай бұрын
@@kusinx800 still going strong, fully built now , well over 2k miles lol daily ride it about 40 miles a day
@janicefullerton6201
@janicefullerton6201 2 жыл бұрын
I am making this comment before I even watch the video hi I am so appreciative of you because we spoke of this and you said you would do this and you are a man of your word thank you so much I know this will be a great video you are the best!👍🏽
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I remember
@janicefullerton6201
@janicefullerton6201 2 жыл бұрын
I like that you put the price of the parts used on the screen! Now please tell me all of these parts that are in this video will fit my new max performance engine from harbor freight? Do you have a Business building these awesome machines because if so I want one! I knew your video would not disappoint thanks for all you show us. Oh I noticed there is a hole in the valve cover is that ok or put some type of filter there? Thanks again!!! 👍🏽
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
@@janicefullerton6201 Thanks! I don't do it as a businees, more of like a hobby for right now. Ya, you can throw a filter on there. Or use a catch can. You can definitely use these mods on the 224.
@hellheart1993
@hellheart1993 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@robertrodriguez3374
@robertrodriguez3374 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 hey quick question I just removed my governor and oil sensor and slapped on a stage 1 kit but seeing tht I can possibly blow my engine just by doing that so I was wondering if I put in the fly wheel and billet rod and all the other parts u added would it less likely blow my engine? Or it still has a high chance? Thanks 🙏🏻
@jeffreygraham4058
@jeffreygraham4058 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad you posted something like this really educational especially on my behalf I just bought a predator 212 and I wanted to do some mods to it before I put it on my 200exu I'm going to use this video to mod my motor thank you so much
@mr.stonerUDX714
@mr.stonerUDX714 2 жыл бұрын
Great f en video shows the peeps that a header pipe is very important for more speed along with other motor up grades
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Ya, for sure!
@larryegilman1
@larryegilman1 2 жыл бұрын
Always well thought out and thorough, and always something to be learned, thank you
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for taking the time to watch the videos.
@mdp9810
@mdp9810 8 ай бұрын
@@Black66where did you get the frame
@williamsantiago7303
@williamsantiago7303 7 ай бұрын
​@Black66 Hey, do you think that you could do a video on that lift that you use to lift your bikes on and some of your other tools as well.
@SOFRITOisLITT90
@SOFRITOisLITT90 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the videos man super helpful EVERYTIME I watch ur videos for hours at work man great stuff !
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching the videos. I am happy the videos help.
@kevinjones6459
@kevinjones6459 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video I’ve been looking into upgrading mine Your mods make more power than the 200-300 stage kits
@mikesbarn1858
@mikesbarn1858 2 жыл бұрын
For the governor holes I recommend a 1/4 - 20 by 1” bolt. For the oil sensor hole I use what’s there and seal it with gasket seal
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That's exactly the size I showed in the video
@psalm2forliberty577
@psalm2forliberty577 Жыл бұрын
Does the bolt need to be self tapping ? Or did you pretap the plain hole with a std 1/4 x 20 tap ?
@glocktopus5k14
@glocktopus5k14 Жыл бұрын
@@Black66do you need to use self tapping 1/4 x 1 20 pitch or just regular bolts? And where do you get your bolts?
@toddstewart9922
@toddstewart9922 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing. I'm putting a Predator 212 on my old Coleman CT200U tomorrow. I'm have the stage 1 ready to go on it with a header and do the zip tie on the governor. I'll have some fun on it then probably do the upgrades in this video. Thanks man! ✌
@weasel1262
@weasel1262 2 жыл бұрын
Stage 1 is a waste of money try again
@toddstewart9922
@toddstewart9922 2 жыл бұрын
Ok where's your video at on what's best for $100???
@daltonstockton2799
@daltonstockton2799 2 жыл бұрын
Your best bet is to save like 50 more dollars and buy the mikuni carb and a header
@billrussell8712
@billrussell8712 Жыл бұрын
​@@toddstewart9922❤❤
@xrebblegames8688
@xrebblegames8688 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 212 on a mini bike and this is a perfect video I was looking for some upgrades and not a lot of people make videos on them love it
@pmotley
@pmotley Ай бұрын
Love the spring compressor.
@ZGueroHTX
@ZGueroHTX Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video man.
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I have some more budget Predator stuff on the channel. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2TTnWqBnriHo7s
@samsgarage1716
@samsgarage1716 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.I always enjoy watching.Tomorrow I’ll take out my mini bike for a ride.
@ogbigtsbikesandstuff887
@ogbigtsbikesandstuff887 2 жыл бұрын
One day I'm gonna be patient and tweak & tune a bike like this. This is quality content!
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@silvershot10
@silvershot10 Жыл бұрын
Moving away from the stock flywheel with the governor removed seems like a good idea for operator safety anyway. Plenty fine in spec I'm sure, but probably not a few thousand rpm higher!
@danielsotelo3942
@danielsotelo3942 Жыл бұрын
This is what I have found as I have installed several preditor engines on similar mini bikes from the 2 or 3 manufacturers that HF uses. Meaning there is a standard and a hemi version. So far I have managed to get a top speed of 58 ~ 59 mph in their stock version, all by fiddling with the gear/sprocket sizes. What I also discovered is that after it maxes out on RPMs the valves simply start to float meaning the engine has hit it's limit. From that point no amount of modifications will increase the power unless you install lighter valves,and stronger valve springs. Once you do that you can you go on to purchase all the other go fast aftermarket parts. If done correctly the bike can hit 80 mph, and I'm almost there.
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Check out the playlist for many Performance engine builds and part comparisons along with top-speed runs! kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXmsfKyMipmirtk
@davessparetime83
@davessparetime83 2 жыл бұрын
This is all great. While you are taking the piston out, change the connecting rod to a Billet Rod for higher RPM safety and they come with replaceable bearing . Keep same cam and don't bother porting or polishing the head. Drill holes in the stock muffler.
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the playlists on the channel for billet rod and flywheel installs along with a stroker kit for good measure. Here is the link to one of them . Thanks for watching kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJPGoXRmn8mGf9k
@markrobertson4579
@markrobertson4579 2 жыл бұрын
You are the man you build some beautiful bikes thank you so much you are a godsend to us do it yourself guys Sending love and light Namaste
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Same to you! Thank you for watching the videos.
@mklein5179
@mklein5179 2 жыл бұрын
Love the long videos! You dispense a lot of useful info!!!!!!
@Kjjjjj445
@Kjjjjj445 2 жыл бұрын
Needed a long video man nice one☝🏾
@noctis8596
@noctis8596 Жыл бұрын
Anytime I have a question about my mini bike or how to do something I come to you first. You show most the process wnd explain it all. Thank you
@ratdad48
@ratdad48 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive video you made sir !!
@JBBRAD9267
@JBBRAD9267 2 жыл бұрын
You make it look easy. Your knowledge and years of experience is priceless
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jojojeep1
@jojojeep1 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a high-performance Minibike about a week ago and I found a box that came with it in the back of my car in the box was a brand new 212 predator hemi never even taken out of the box, a brand new front tire a brand new rear tire, a brand new 18 tooth clutch a brand new clutch gas throttle and cable and a brand new seat all wrapped up in plastic still all I needed was a frame. This morning I found a Azuza frame in excellent condition for 20 bucks. So I pretty much got this minibike for free except for the front and rear rim now I’m going to do the mods that you just did. Thank you to you and my son‘s gonna have an awesome little Minibike it’s gonna cost me about 140 bucks with everything
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Can't beat that deal! Especially for an Azusa frame.
@andrewkuhtz
@andrewkuhtz 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video black 66!😊
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
No problem! Thanks for watching!
@eastsliders_drift_trikes_nz
@eastsliders_drift_trikes_nz 2 жыл бұрын
I have a few of those flywheels on various units. Very good value for money
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 2 жыл бұрын
They look like a clone of the GX200 aluminum. I wonder how they come timed. The GX200 aluminum is timed at 22 BTDC.
@eastsliders_drift_trikes_nz
@eastsliders_drift_trikes_nz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deucealive75 I can't remember around 26 or 28 i think.....They responded well to an 8 degree advance key for me
@paultope7753
@paultope7753 2 жыл бұрын
I did the flywheel and 12 degree key it's jetted 38 with air cleaner and exhaust I'm not at high elevation the 30 thousands gap seems to much it runs fine but slight misfire at idle I've got the head gasket and springs not installed yet
@cb7s4life
@cb7s4life 2 жыл бұрын
BROOOOO Drill press valve spring tool. That's genius.
@bradcarpenter2396
@bradcarpenter2396 2 жыл бұрын
Not encludin shipping. $$$$ that's a killer.
@miguelpagansr6128
@miguelpagansr6128 2 жыл бұрын
Another great and entertaining video, thanks for the video and ride safe.
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ezekiel8915
@ezekiel8915 2 жыл бұрын
What's up Black66, Thank you for making this video! Not everyone can spend tons on parts to go faster and this is wallet friendly!! Keep it up bro🤙
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@theyellowyang2075
@theyellowyang2075 2 жыл бұрын
Thank U so much for your Video and Help and information.
@FightLife41
@FightLife41 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work that bike is fast
@IdahoEagle77
@IdahoEagle77 4 ай бұрын
Excelllent video! Would love to see what kind of mod you could do to this to get it to torque off the line faster.
@Black66
@Black66 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Torque converter, gearing ,higher stall clutch etc. check out the playlist on the channel.kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHeaqXSwZZd8hKM
@TheWildernessFamily
@TheWildernessFamily 4 ай бұрын
Black66…. Can you possibly make a video showing how you align the chain correctly when putting it on the front and back sprockets? I’ve also wondered how to align or square things up when installing a torque converter.
@Contabulator
@Contabulator 2 жыл бұрын
These videos are gold. Thankyou
@sebastianc.4627
@sebastianc.4627 6 ай бұрын
1:29 where did you buy that lift thingy the bike is supported on?
@DMACC36
@DMACC36 2 ай бұрын
Need to know too I just bought a predator engine for my bike yesterday but trying to figure out how to hold it up
@sidewayzmike
@sidewayzmike Жыл бұрын
At 14:40 flywheel 8° advance pre-installed/off the shelf. Completely understand where your going. Now, here me out. How about cam timing, when changing cam out? Dont cam manufacturers sometimes have a little advance made into them as well? Whether regrind or new billet?
@sidewayzmike
@sidewayzmike Жыл бұрын
See where I am going? I'm basically taking this videos timing principles education, and trying to add some info. I'm coming from automotive principles. So, moving the powerband/peak hp or tq observed at different rpm throughout the range. Ignition timing can manipulate peak hp at different rpm. Also, cam timing too. I don't have much experience using a degree wheel/reading cam cards/checking valve/piston clearance with putty/etc etc. That's probably why my car project's engine build, where I installed a schrick camshaft "straight up", choosing to skip degreeing the cam. I think it was a mistake, and I probably left some untapped hp on the table. My motor never had a strong idle performance, but upstairs (peak 7k rpm fuel cut) it made all its hp. I didn't like my results in the end. Kept dreaming of tearing it all down someday, and really get into the "meat n potatoes" of playing with cam timing, using an adjustable cam gear, and recording max advance/retard degrees, that way I'd know what is simply too much/dangerous/risk of valve to piston contact.
@sidewayzmike
@sidewayzmike Жыл бұрын
Again, 4 stroke engine principles apply, whether it's a 12 valve bmw straight 6, or a single piston lawn mower engine.
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
The flywheel that I used has around 18 degrees of timing. The sweet spot on these little engines is about 32 give or take depending on the setup. Most billet wheels come with about 32 degrees of timing. I could have gotten away with more timing on this one. This setup is for the average person throwing this together in the garage with minimal tools. Inexpensive simple and easy. Definitely could degree in the cam but this wasn't in the scope of this video. Thanks for watching!
@cheynejones9536
@cheynejones9536 Жыл бұрын
Well I bought everything on your list for my very first 212 build! Super stoked about this! I still won’t have anything to put it on, but I’m intrigued by the build itself. Sure will be one bad shelf engine untill I find something to put it on!
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
As long as you're having fun that's all that counts!! I would throw a sweet-looking blower housing on it. Like chrome or powder-coated blower housing so it will look even sweeter sitting on the shelf!!!👍
@cheynejones9536
@cheynejones9536 Жыл бұрын
@@Black66 so the stock carb is trashed, I’m really not trying to spend a load on the Mikuni vm22, I’ve found a few other brands on Amazon, “knock off” would you say that would be ok for this cheap build? I’ve seen a few reviews and I’m not sure what to do exactly, some say the stock carb is better than the knock off? Would it be in my best interest to buy the stock one or knockoff. Unless you know of somthing better? Really appreciate the advise!
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
@@cheynejones9536 I use this kit all the time. Not as good as the OG but for the money it works fine. www.ebay.com/itm/194358544642
@jeffrykopis5468
@jeffrykopis5468 2 жыл бұрын
Given my weight, the fact that I want to ride on dirt and grass, and the minor hills of my terrain, I'd give up 20 mph worth of top end gearing for more torque and acceleration. Might keep the clutch alive too.
@BuzzLOLOL
@BuzzLOLOL 2 жыл бұрын
Go with the 2 clutches setup or torque converter...
@MountainEagle77
@MountainEagle77 3 ай бұрын
Which option is better for plugging the holes in this case: blue or black RTV? Is it necessary to wait the full 24 hours for it to cure before running the engine and riding?
@Black66
@Black66 3 ай бұрын
Either one will work you can also use loctite . I have never had one leak even after riding right after the assembly.
@consciouscoma85
@consciouscoma85 Жыл бұрын
seems to me if your going to build a cycle kart this stock 212 is the way to go considering how much the ghost motor and hop up kit is .its way more bang for your buck.
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Check out the Ghost vs. Predator video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5u9an6YZtiWoqc
@irocss85
@irocss85 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video learned. For me that 5mph top end isn't worth making allot more noise imo. Unless the stock muffler doesn't really do much noise canceling any ways. I'd go the other way if I could get quieter muffler and lose some top end. Unless you live around country roads your not goin 50mph very much anyways. Likely get up to speed and slow down after a few seconds randomly.
@JoinTeamSammy
@JoinTeamSammy Жыл бұрын
daamn thanks for showing this i dont mind the 50 miles per hour on my build almost 60 mph daamn way too dangerous for me lol xD and with the stock speed aint too bad iether
@mlindsay527
@mlindsay527 Жыл бұрын
You should do a $200, 300, 400, and 500 version of the same video! Wonder if there are any “speed hole” mods to the stock muffler that would help.
@cheesefarmer3545
@cheesefarmer3545 Жыл бұрын
"Torque it down in one smooth movement" *humps the torque wrench*
@chrisschmitz1926
@chrisschmitz1926 Жыл бұрын
What do you torque everything too?
@kingdavidjames1778
@kingdavidjames1778 4 ай бұрын
Foot pounds duh 😎
@TacticalPhoenixYT
@TacticalPhoenixYT Жыл бұрын
Hey, just a tip, a large reason the stock rod blows up on the 212 is due to not enough oil entering the linkage with the crankshaft. Maybe drilling a hole on the conrod would allow oil to seep into it, giving it similar lubricating properties as the billet rod.
@robbycooper9048
@robbycooper9048 2 жыл бұрын
Would lobe to see a step by step video on that table build.
@mklein5179
@mklein5179 2 жыл бұрын
Hey black! Just fyi. I got an oko $20 flat slide carb from Amazon and put it on my ct200u. It’s stock with a header. This carb is great! Came with main and slow jets also. I think it might be better than my mikuni??
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Ah sweet! I'll have to try one out
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link for that? I would like to check that out.
@mklein5179
@mklein5179 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deucealive75
@lsxjunkie
@lsxjunkie 2 жыл бұрын
@mklein5179 got a link for that carb is it a PWK style?
@AirCooledArmy
@AirCooledArmy 2 жыл бұрын
I’m curious what was the purpose of “lapping the flywheel “ and if I go with the same flywheel do I also have to do this ?
@DavidMartinez-uz2vf
@DavidMartinez-uz2vf 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome .... Nice and simple
@chasehuff6585
@chasehuff6585 2 жыл бұрын
Anyway you can list your tool list you used for the build? Thanks! Love the videos
@GILSJOURNEY
@GILSJOURNEY 10 ай бұрын
Hello, thank you for the video. I was wondering if you could share which tools you use to port the head. Thank you
@Black66
@Black66 10 ай бұрын
The porting tools I used are in the description of the video. Thanks for watching!
@GILSJOURNEY
@GILSJOURNEY 10 ай бұрын
@@Black66 thank you
@GILSJOURNEY
@GILSJOURNEY 10 ай бұрын
@Black66 just for reference you used a dermal correct?
@travissiegenthaler9355
@travissiegenthaler9355 8 ай бұрын
Was there a noticeable loss of torque with the pipe? I was wondering if the 0-30 times were slower.
@Black66
@Black66 8 ай бұрын
Check out the exhaust videos on the channel. Tested many exhausts and mufflers. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHeaqXSwZZd8hKM
@dougdroen7519
@dougdroen7519 11 ай бұрын
Great video man I liked how u pressed the springs in. Gonna have to try making one of those out of a chain saw tool... So when buying a new motor should I break it in first b4 I rebuild it..... Gonna go billet rod n flywheel. Any advice for my first build bud... Love your channel..
@Black66
@Black66 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! I would break it in after I installed the billet rod and flywheel.
@jeffreyhill3960
@jeffreyhill3960 4 ай бұрын
I’m curious as to what kind of mileage the bikes get as they get modified too! Mpg stock then mods…..im thinking they might actually improve! It might be easier to check the mileage by quart than mileage per gallon…save you some time! You could rig up a small tank and just hang it on the frame with a hook and baling wire with a piece of clear fuel line…..what do you think? I’ve always wanted to know how far these minis could go on a tank anyway!
@Black66
@Black66 4 ай бұрын
I did do a range test video a couple of years ago with a very small tank. Check it out.kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGi4kGN9nKx_pMk
@jeffreyhill3960
@jeffreyhill3960 4 ай бұрын
@@Black66 so that little tank went 15 miles and it held .wq
@jeffreyhill3960
@jeffreyhill3960 4 ай бұрын
Held .21 gal so it got 75 mpg….I always wondered. As the mods are installed, I would think the mileage would go down, but how much. Reason I’m asking is in case of an EMP, these minis might be the only thing we could get around on! And I wonder if the electronics would survive the pulse, cause the electrics are so rudimentary and still very robust. Thanks for getting back to me. I’m thinking about building my own bike adult size kinda like the groundhog. I’m sure you’ve seen it on utube. Comfort would be much improved for adults on a bigger bike. I love watching your builds and thanks for your exportice on the subject, and appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge.
@magmasloth3619
@magmasloth3619 2 жыл бұрын
great video, well put together ❤
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@magmasloth3619
@magmasloth3619 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 hey how did you remove the gear off the crankshaft
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
@@magmasloth3619 I put the crank in a vise to hold it and used a small hammer and a punch. It will come right off pretty easily.
@DiverDumpster
@DiverDumpster 5 ай бұрын
Hey i'm looking to get into mini bikes and not sure what parts to get i tried to use the links in the description but all of them were out of date if you could update them I would appreciate that so much!
@schulze420
@schulze420 3 ай бұрын
So the best bang for your buck mod is a zip-tie on the governor!
@Biokemist-o3k
@Biokemist-o3k 2 жыл бұрын
Such great videos my friend.
@DavidMartinez-uz2vf
@DavidMartinez-uz2vf 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video on the throttle connection to the carb with no governor
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the throttle connection is covered in this video and many others on the channel kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIm1gpmtfaqDnMk
@DavidMartinez-uz2vf
@DavidMartinez-uz2vf 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 Your awesome ... You reply fast my friend
@davidlynchjr7771
@davidlynchjr7771 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get that lift?Diy? Do you have plans for it?love it
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
I bought it used. Not sure what store it came from. I use it for my minibike KZbin channel. Thanks for watching. kzbin.info/door/x9Ph4--sJxfQPzk_oEq8-g
@timkern9563
@timkern9563 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Good advice, clear demo, pacing and narration keep it interesting. Suggest you mention the torques you're using, as well as valve clearance. What were your sources for the various parts? Particularly interested in the cast aluminum flywheel. Thank you!
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I did leave some of the parts used in the build in description of the video
@jeffrykopis5468
@jeffrykopis5468 2 жыл бұрын
I've been spreading the word about you, especially on Cars and Cameras. Cuz they got 1 million subs, and you should too.
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@mattbotelho8144
@mattbotelho8144 8 ай бұрын
How did you hook up the throttle back together because I tried following your video for the governor removal and now I’m stuck on how to hook up the throttle
@Black66
@Black66 7 ай бұрын
Watch the latest B200 videos . I show how to make up a throttle without the Governor. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXyXoWCfjrmqfMk
@AdamOpheim
@AdamOpheim 2 жыл бұрын
Be nice to see what a modified stock muffler would do.
@NikitaNaumenko-bo4zp
@NikitaNaumenko-bo4zp Ай бұрын
What type of wheels did you use and what was the back wheel setup? Im looking to make one of these, but dont know what tires to use.
@Black66
@Black66 Ай бұрын
Check out the mini bike playlist. I have had a few different set ups on this bike kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3jVmq2ZmsaSi8k
@homepc1527
@homepc1527 Жыл бұрын
When you zip tie that spring does the throttle no longer return?
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Yes the throttle still returns.
@sandmhoder
@sandmhoder Жыл бұрын
to adjust the mixture screw on stock carb it says online tightening it makes it RICH loosening it makes it LEAN correct ??
@jw2par
@jw2par 2 жыл бұрын
Great video ! You work fast! When putting the engines back together, could you mention what you torque the bolts and other small things like that so we can make sure engine is put together correctly. I'm a old newbie learning to work on small engines. Enjoying your content.
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'll do that.
@viktorganchev1855
@viktorganchev1855 3 ай бұрын
Hey, I'm 14 and I want to get into building my own first minibike! I will go with the 212 predator engine but I am having trouble finding a good budget frame! and I was wondering if you could link the frame you are using in this video. Is the frame purchasable by itself? thank you.
@viktorganchev1855
@viktorganchev1855 3 ай бұрын
I think it would be great if you make a new budget build minibike because all the parts shown don't exist anymore Keep up the great work I love your vids so far!
@BarbarianPat
@BarbarianPat 4 ай бұрын
I know its a little late but where did you get the frame kit?
@Black66
@Black66 4 ай бұрын
This bike isn't a frame kit its an original Azusa. Check out the fleet video and a walk around of all the bikes on the channel. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqCrc3afrb2ahaM
@BustedKnucklesBuildsTexas
@BustedKnucklesBuildsTexas 2 жыл бұрын
Great video sir !
@JimCooper-f8g
@JimCooper-f8g 6 ай бұрын
Would recommend checking and clearing big end rod clearance too-its often tight. I wonder how it would react to at least 1 stamped 1:1.3 rockerarms - plenty cheap. Oops my bad
@randaroo1552
@randaroo1552 2 ай бұрын
where did u buy the crank holding tool from
@Black66
@Black66 2 ай бұрын
Made it from an old clutch.
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 2 жыл бұрын
whats the best torque wrench to buy for these things?
@psalm2forliberty577
@psalm2forliberty577 Жыл бұрын
I'd get the Harbor Freight Tools 1/4" drive Inch Pound Torque wrench. It's only good up to 240 inch pounds / 20 ft lb so accurate for these smaller fasteners. I think only the Crankshaft flywheel bolt & maybe head bolts will require a Full size torque wrench.
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 19 күн бұрын
​​@@psalm2forliberty577thanks man I got me the bulls tools cool blue one and a digital reader just to check it's accuracy cant go wrong with both measurements dont forget to check those arc rod bearings even tho I ran my stock ducar engine going on 4years stock internals this is my first build it's a duromax 208cc 9271 billet rod rattlesnake cam 252 and I wanna run 22lbs springs but the 252 says to run stock springs for 20 mins to break it in 💪🏼💯💨💨? wish me luck def don't wanna be throwing money away if it don't work out I will just stick to stock stuff because I know my ducar treated me right
@GILSJOURNEY
@GILSJOURNEY 10 ай бұрын
I would like to see this run with a carb upgrade aswell
@state_of_repentance
@state_of_repentance 11 ай бұрын
@Black66 Question: The flywheel you linked from studz racing, they claim it fits "Honda clone engines only" and not predator.. nut we see you using it here on a predator engine. Is there a difference in these two tapers, if so, what is it? And how did you manage to use the EC Flywheel? (looks like you cleaned yours up a bit too) I ordered one for my 212 predator and studz racing is giving me trouble about it!
@Black66
@Black66 11 ай бұрын
Yes, the taper on the clone and standard 212 are slightly different. There are differences in opinion on using the clone wheel on a standard crank. I have used them without a problem. I am not saying he is wrong, Other folks might have had diffferent experiences with this stuff than I have. I make sure to lap the wheel in with a good valve grinding compound before torqing the wheel.
@state_of_repentance
@state_of_repentance 11 ай бұрын
@Black66 thank you! Eric from studz racing is telling me to return the flywheel and "just by the billet flywheel" but I'm building a cheap 212 here for a mini bike... I don't need $120 billet flywheel on a stock un-reinforced 212 block. Any tips for lapping the clone flywheel to the predator properly?
@Black66
@Black66 11 ай бұрын
I use valve grinding compound and run the wheel back and forth until I get an even sanded surface on the crank as seen in the video. Also there is a link in the video description for a vendor that sells this wheel with the same taper for the 212. His wheel has 28 degresss timing built in in case you don't want to use the offset keyway to advance the timing.
@jeffrykopis5468
@jeffrykopis5468 2 жыл бұрын
That sprocket on the crank, what was that for? The governor?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@andrewbrown3123
@andrewbrown3123 11 ай бұрын
Do you have a Baja hawg ty mini bike? They are pretty cool
@bdemelo5593
@bdemelo5593 2 жыл бұрын
How do u zip tie the governor..I still have mine on
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Put a zip tie trough the governor spring loops so the spring doesn't stretch.
@bdemelo5593
@bdemelo5593 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thank you appreciate it 🙏
@GILSJOURNEY
@GILSJOURNEY 10 ай бұрын
I was wondering how much valve clearance is in a non hemi predator engine. I am building my first motor and I bought a cam from go power sports. It is the 265 hot cam, I am thinking of mating it with the 1.3 rockers you are using in this video however I don't want valve clearance to be a issue. Thank you for your time.
@Black66
@Black66 10 ай бұрын
A standard predator is easier to use higher lift cams in because the valves are not angled or canted. If you use around .080” piston to valve clearance and .030” piston to head you should be fine.
@QURAN11244
@QURAN11244 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I noticed that you got the bike up to 50mph only with the governor ziptied on a stock 212. I have a cc100x with a stage 1 predator 212 hemi(jetted carb, intake, pipe, ziptied governer) but it only does around 35 as its top speed. Could this be because I am using a 12t clutch with a 75 rear sprocket? If I changed the sprocket to a 50t would it get a higher top speed? Thanks
@ghostkilleryoutb5139
@ghostkilleryoutb5139 2 жыл бұрын
yes by changing the sprocket to a 50t it will increase the speed
@cleanname4439
@cleanname4439 2 жыл бұрын
i would try a 60t first tbh
@recleds
@recleds 9 ай бұрын
Hey @Black66 how did you make the crank holding tool?
@Black66
@Black66 9 ай бұрын
I made it from an old clutch . You can buy the tool already made on the mini bike web sites like GPS.
@justinbarber03
@justinbarber03 10 ай бұрын
Where did you get the Azusa frame if you have a link please send it to me
@Black66
@Black66 10 ай бұрын
This Azusa is a straight bar early version. You can get replica Azusa bikes at gokartsusa.com/Mini-Bike-Kit-5-Inch-Wheels.aspx
@PopeyesCreeper
@PopeyesCreeper 2 жыл бұрын
I just received my stage 3 header pipe from gopowersports for my 224 and it doesn't fit? Neither the gasket or the flange... did you have these problems when using some of your 212 exhausts?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
If you watch the 224 playlist you will see, I changed out the head at some point in the build. You can use them . You have too oblong the holes with a Dremel or file.
@PopeyesCreeper
@PopeyesCreeper 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 I noticed you used one thats why I was so confused. I must've missed you dremeling the holes
@jeffturner9747
@jeffturner9747 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! What brand pipe is that you added?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The links are in the description for the parts used in the build.
@dorianfoster8107
@dorianfoster8107 2 жыл бұрын
Do u break ur engines in before you use them?
@abels_04
@abels_04 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video of how your throttle is connected to carb?
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
I show it in different videos on the channel . I'll have to so a video onnjyst that.
@abels_04
@abels_04 Жыл бұрын
@@Black66 okay ill dig through when I get a chance. This is perfect video I was looking for. Good performance without going overboard on the budget.
@phoenixmojado527
@phoenixmojado527 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t realize how far kingman is from Phoenix till now 😂
@VASTVOiiD
@VASTVOiiD 8 ай бұрын
Great video
@Black66
@Black66 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
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