The iron rose - part 2 - assembly

[@azulan730]

we did these roses for mothers day at my blacksmithing school. best mothers day gift ever. i'm going to make my mother one every year for as long as she lives

[@TheRonald6524]

What’s gage sheet metal is that???

[@canuckloyalist4681]

"Doesn't smell like a rose"...man I've heard that more than once or twice! Nice work Bear it looks great!

[@shadetreeforge]

Want to get a different reaction? tuck a small piece of black felt down in the center of the rose out of sight and put a couple of drops of essential rose oil on it! Then when they ask how did you make it smell like that!? Tell them it's really difficult to forge that smell in there!

[@BlackBearForge]

I have done the rose oil thing, but it always seemed to fake

[@brysonalden5414]

So over a year after you posted this video, I finally watched it, and, as always, learned. It's so nice to have a library of videos to refer to when I want to try something new. Thanks!

[@BlackBearForge]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@KeithSkates]

Beautiful rose, and as always extremely informative video. 💚 "It doesn't smell like a rose" 🤣🤣🤣

[@douglasfathers4848]

Very nice Rose John , You make the torch welding look so easy . 👍🤠

[@BlackBearForge]

Thanks 👍

[@richardsolomon8076]

Beautiful work, I'm glad the afids only got one little nibble :-) love it

[@danielcrawford7315]

Well now that came out very nicely indeed. Thank you for having us over to the shop today to learn to make the roses. Blessings to u sirSir, Crawford out

[@DragonQueefs]

Farts out.

[@moonbyul5383]

Its very beautiful

[@brettphillips3091]

Wow John, that is awesome.

[@lwketcham]

Very nice. You are an excellent teacher.

[@Stephaniepinedaa]

My husband made me a rose close to this one very beautiful

[@MrCJesslinger]

Just found this channel. Thx for all the great videos from your shop sir.

[@wayneshirey6999]

Turned out very nice.

[@1averageamerican]

Excellent more artistic video. Beautiful job.

[@hannemannironworks1651]

Looks absolutely amazing John! You do some fantastic work.

[@brettsayers7768]

That rose turned excellent, very realistic. Great videos John

[@philburns4778]

Honestly I thought this would have been hella boring, watched it, and loved it so skilled. Definitely worth watching awesome results great skill

[@yadaroni]

Looks great.

[@robbieshort5694]

You are amazing

[@Dolko71]

You’re a cool dude! Real nice work on that rose. Looks amazing. A follow a few blacksmiths on youtube, and often I find that sooner or later they will try a little more intricate work to challenge themselves and not just forge hammers and tongs. Looking forward to the next one.

[@BlackBearForge]

Videos about hammers and tongs have more to do with what the average viewer wants to watch more than anything else

[@aaronkokesch3593]

Absolutely gorgeous piece. Would love to see a video of your torch setup and how "you" find them useful in your shop for different applications. I have found in my career building its best to see how others with a higher skill level use tools and there setups. Often I can learn a valuable lesson for my setup amd tweak things to my use better. In a way its the adage learn from anothers mistake so you dont repeat it yourself. But in my case I find it to be why reinvent the wheel when someone already has it figured out. I found your video on how you setup your work space extremely helpful in mine.

[@BlackBearForge]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpWykK2lZq6Sidk

[@aaronkokesch3593]

@@BlackBearForge Thank you!! I did go looking for this possible video and didn't see it. Guess I didn't look hard enough.

[@Dominic.Minischetti]

Beautiful!

[@artk2846]

an other great job thanks for all excellent videos

[@GWIRailroad]

Very interesting, and great job!! Would you consider discussing the torch in a upcoming video. Have not heard of one of those before? Thank You Wayne

[@BlackBearForge]

Look up Dillon torch online, they should have some videos

[@GWIRailroad]

Thank You very much I will check it out.

[@danbreyfogle8486]

Very nice work, always love seeing a craftsman at work.

[@bentoombs]

Nice job John. All the roses I have made were without a torch. Yeah i'm getting a torch. Lol Thank you sir ⚒ On!!!!

[@gtschanel2362]

Great video

[@larryfetters212]

I’m gona have to try that. Thanks John

[@aliceharvey3019]

I am definitely not a fan of roses, but do love watching an artist at work. I thought this whole process was fascinating and the rose is beautiful. I wonder now if this technique would make a lovely wildflower or two? As always another fascinating video. Thanks for making them.

[@BlackBearForge]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@matthewbuckley5998]

Really enjoyed your video John. After watching this and seeing some of the other roses on the forum, I took the plunge and forged my first one today. Thanks for all the tips. I'll post a piccie on the forum. Cheers :-D

[@BlackBearForge]

Cool, I'll look forward to seeing the pictures

[@steelpennyforge5152]

Looks really good! I like the inset window view when you were at the leg vice.

[@mikepettengill2706]

That is the coolest!

[@МихаилКабанов-я9щ]

Спасибо за еще один способ изготовления цветов выглядит здорово

[@bunyanforgings7849]

Beautiful! Simply outstanding.

[@mtyson9004]

Very cool John! Thanks and God Bless you sir!

[@hosiercraft9675]

I saw a guy on KZbin do a rose once with a 1/4 x 1 flat bar. Like to see how you'd go about it. I've also seen it done with 1" round bar. That's hard, tried that one a few times. Allot of skill needed for that. Great video.

[@petepeterson4540]

check out TA 's channel rose

[@trollmcclure1884]

Probably a good way how to waste a week. I can imagine a seasoned green copper body and red metal flower too. Back to manly chisels, axes and gongs.

[@fernandolopez7029]

Perfect. Thanks for sharing with us your skills. The rose is like a nice gift for us.

[@renaissancewomanfarm9175]

Now I wonder how you would do a rose, without the long stem, and the method for attaching it to a gate, grill or scroll, etc.

[@Kristoferskogsberg]

beautiful!!

[@stevestroupe4120]

I want me a pair of those teleporting scroll tongs that show up at 12:47. Nice rose also.

[@BlackBearForge]

Remote control

[@grandadz_forge]

Your version was excellent. ESPECIALLY the thorn. I've been wanting to see if anyone would ever do that.

[@BlackBearForge]

Thanks

[@OrionsAnvil]

Great video, great rose! Awesome jig too, really demonstrates how much it's worth it to take the time to make something like that if you want consistantcy. On a side note, you've gotten me conditioned to switch my earbuds to "condition bravo" (hanging loose in front of my bad ear) as soon as I see that file😆 Not complaining or criticizing, just thought it was funny. Always look forward to your vids.

[@mervwright2611]

Hi I don't know if you have seem John Bennett , he does some really nice roses and you should see is grape vines with hand forged grape clusters. He also has a quick way to make light tongs very interesting fellow.

[@Nightman2152]

Very cool! I'm thinking about making an arbor out of iron roses and then growing real roses on it. Should be ready by mothers day 2025. I like the idea of precut blanks. I love the old "I did it the old fashion way and it was a lot of work" but at the same time if I do everything the old fashion way I won't have enough time in my life to complete all my projects so yeah it's a balance I guess. At the end of the day you made that rose and it looks excellent so who cares if a robot did some of the labour for you. That being said I'd love to see you do it the old fashion way.

[@HisWayHomestead]

looks great, but I can't imagine me attempting a rose... too fiddelsome... ;-) But really interesting to watch the process! Thanks John!!!

[@BlackBearForge]

Other than burning holes in the thin sheet, the process is pretty straight forward.

[@HisWayHomestead]

@@BlackBearForge it’s that artistic part I’d struggle with… too OCD and too much a perfectionist…. I’d fiddle with one rose for a month 🤪

[@HisWayHomestead]

@@BlackBearForge I’m new to forging and picking up a propane forge this weekend. I like the rendezvous items you make and will be trying my hand at them. Been binge watching your videos and even joined as a member!

[@InWithBothFeet]

You do beautiful work and I like your demeanor and video style. I'm curious what brand files you like.

[@BlackBearForge]

I buy new old stock files in any brand I find. The old ones are better than any of the new ones.

[@lukearts2954]

:) amazing how cameras mess up a recording by averaging out sounds or try to compensate for contrast changes, turning loud sounds into purrs and changing a workshop into a disco dancefloor, but when there's a screeching sound of a file they all capture is crystal clear and vividly accurate. Hahaha... Had to skip the sound for a bit because I had goosbumps behind my ears and on my toes =))) (this is no complaint, quite the contrary. It's nice to get the real sounds of a real shop in a video)

[@donniebeall8152]

Where can I order one of your roses looks great

[@georgegriffiths2235]

For the thorn try leaving a slightly thicker section on the stem then chisel it in like the ears on your dragon.

[@BlackBearForge]

That would work if wou can leave a thick section without it being overly chunky.

[@billy19461]

Great job! The artist comes out when you start shaping the rose. What is the name of the torch you used?

[@BlackBearForge]

Dillon

[@zendevonys5261]

The good ol' screech of a file

[@Balyrion]

What kind of brush do you use for the wax? I would think the heat would melt/burn any brush I can think of in short order. Thanks for the video, fantastic work as always!

[@BlackBearForge]

I use cheap disposable chip brushes. They do melt if the material is to hot but it shouldn't be at high heat during waxing

[@Balyrion]

@@BlackBearForge Thanks!

[@johnathandoman5585]

What welding rod are you using for the torch weld?

[@BlackBearForge]

RG-45

[@johnathandoman5585]

@@BlackBearForge thanks for the reply! Been watching for a long time love the videos!

[@bret354]

Was wondering if your vise setup would work on a copper stemmed rose o make the rivet on the top?

[@BlackBearForge]

I don't see why not

[@brianschoonover4605]

John what kind of rod did you use to weld that leaves together?

[@brianderby145]

Love your work John, as always another fantastic project demonstration. If you've not seen it yet check out Mark Asprey's page for another excellent rose demo it may be one you'd like to add to that playlist.

[@brianderby145]

I've never done a link post but I'll try it here for Mark's rose play list. kzbin.info/aero/PL0_1OzAA4gHVdf0p6RlT9DxmYRVp6X3BS

[@k.c.putnam7333]

What gadgets steel do you use?

[@k.c.putnam7333]

Spell-check !!!! What gauge steel?!

[@petepeterson4540]

in your world maybe a tree lives here In memory of Bob Ross

[@jackdawg4579]

anyone got a link to a supplier outside of the USofA (Postage from the USA is 3 times the price of the kit), or even a set of templates one can use to make ones own.?

[@BlackBearForge]

You might try a google search for a pattern you could print out. I have seen them somewhere

[@jackdawg4579]

@@BlackBearForge cheers John!

[@jackdawg4579]

@@BlackBearForge found a few that look rough but serviceable, thanks for the tip.

[@freightdawg6762]

do you sell those?

[@BlackBearForge]

I do, although not as often as I used to. One this size sells for $150

[@BrianDaleNeeley]

Joey van der Steeg (Blacksmithing - Joey van der Steeg kzbin.info) did a series where he made a rose from square bar stock about a month ago (kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqfdnWCOlsyKrtU first video: all five are over an hour and a half). It's a really nice rose, but a dozen made that way would cost a king's ransom!

[@MarkATrombley]

You have a power hammer! You should have made the rose from 1/4" plate and 2" round bar.

[@BlackBearForge]

Still sounds like a lot of work

[@MarkATrombley]

@@BlackBearForge But then you would have a 2 foot wide rose to put in your yard.

[@flatlander6734]

Hello John big fan of your vids, but you do yourself a disservice by not doing a nice, slow, well lit, detailed closeup pan of your work after completion. Holding that lovely rose in your hand in a wide shot, after all that great buildup, is kind of anti climatic.

[@BlackBearForge]

Almost every video that features a finished project also features a close up. But you have to watch to the very end to see it.

[@sammanno3303]

stoneypointforge.com JimStuart

[@mikehegdahl5393]

Made me cringe when you were filing in both directions at first.