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Blackburn Firecrest; The “Improved” Firebrand

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Ed Nash's Military Matters

Ed Nash's Military Matters

Жыл бұрын

Recognising that the Firebrand had issues, Blackburn tried to come up with an improved aircraft to fill the FAA's role for a torpedo/attack aircraft.
Too little, too late, as it turned out.
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@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 Жыл бұрын
"Plod around and smash stuff..." That's the best summary of the Skyraider's mission I have ever heard.
@EdNashsMilitaryMatters
@EdNashsMilitaryMatters Жыл бұрын
I should probably get a job with a defence contractor on marketing :D
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 Жыл бұрын
@@EdNashsMilitaryMatters Honestly speaking, I think you'd be good at it. You have an honest voice, keen insight, and usable facts. I keep getting ads from Rafael that sound like they're trying to sell me a minivan or a dishwasher they're so smooth, calm, inoffensive, and bland. They're not compelling in the least, but that may have been at (misguided, IMO) customer request.
@Farweasel
@Farweasel Жыл бұрын
@@mbryson2899 Maybe that's because Defence Deaprtments like our MoD have become so *woke* it could almost be funny. Here is our new weapon. It has a range of personal pronouns, is gender flexible or neutral as required, fully diverse and never mentions the fact it can swiftly slaughter - sorry, convert to non-agressive status - thousands of people without resorting to offensive terms such as 'foreigners'.
@CaptainLumpyDog
@CaptainLumpyDog Жыл бұрын
@@mbryson2899 Isn’t honesty the LAST thing you’re looking for in a marketing or PR role? 😉😉😉
@CaptainLumpyDog
@CaptainLumpyDog Жыл бұрын
@@mbryson2899 Also, if you're getting ads from Rafael, I'd take bland and inoffensive any day over the typical attitude of Israelis (a people I adore), namely blunt to the point of being hurtful! HA HA HA HA
@kiwidiesel
@kiwidiesel Жыл бұрын
The Firecrest was yet another awesome looking british design.
@loumencken9644
@loumencken9644 Жыл бұрын
Now that we've had two excellent videos on Blackburn's failures, how about one on its last aircraft, the Buccaneer? As I recall it was pretty successful and had some interesting design features.
@apex107lrp
@apex107lrp Жыл бұрын
"...plod around and smash stuff...". Five more words, and my reaction to them, that keep me coming back. Who gets to snort a laugh watching a uniquely informative video on the history of military aircraft? Only Mr. Nash's audience. Thanks Ed, well done as ever.👍
@ade22805
@ade22805 Жыл бұрын
Does have a bit of a Wyvern vibe going on. Go on, give us a Wyvern video!
@cdl0
@cdl0 Жыл бұрын
He will have to now; there is no way out of it.
@timgosling6189
@timgosling6189 Жыл бұрын
A very nice summary. As you say, in hindsight and likely also at the time these aircraft were dinosaurs, but no less interesting for that. A minor point but 'counter-rotating' refers to multiengine aircraft that have propellers that trun in opposite directions. The P-38 and current A400M are examples. The phrase you need here is 'contra-rotating', which refers to propellers turning in opposite directions on the same axis. Examples include the Wyvern you mention, Gannet, Shackleton and, still in service, the venerable and notoriously noisy Bear.
@EdNashsMilitaryMatters
@EdNashsMilitaryMatters Жыл бұрын
Yes, apologies.
@AnonNomad
@AnonNomad Жыл бұрын
It might not have been been on time, or been much to write about in the air - but it was a hell of a looker imo.
@benhooper1956
@benhooper1956 Жыл бұрын
Always been quite fond of this one, and can we just appreciate what a beautiful, clear photo at 8:27 is? Those reflections are stunning
@jimdavis8391
@jimdavis8391 Жыл бұрын
It does look a cracker there. With over 2,500hp and those lines I'm surprised it wasn't a good bit quicker to match its looks.
@apex107lrp
@apex107lrp Жыл бұрын
The wonders of "old" technology black and white films of the 20th century...says the former (for a time long ago) commercial photography supply salesman.
@6thmichcav262
@6thmichcav262 Жыл бұрын
Same photo at :56, for more enjoyment.
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 Жыл бұрын
To be fair the Skyraider only stayed as long as it did because of the Viet Nam War. Having said that it now looks like propeller driven aircraft are making a comeback as it has been realised that using the A-10 in counterinsurgency is a lot like using a Rolls-Royce for pizza delivery.
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 Жыл бұрын
Possibly...however those two words A-10 & RR shouldn't be used in the same sentence
@rayjames6096
@rayjames6096 Жыл бұрын
The Skyraider stayed in production until 1957 because of how good it was in Korea, its bomb load and 10 hour flight duration. Jets at that time couldn't come close to matching it. It also performed outstandingly in Vietnam, 3200 were made.
@stevenhoman2253
@stevenhoman2253 Жыл бұрын
True, the Warthog is still a Cold War design, looking for Cold War enemies. All the actual protagonists have been third world for a long time now.
@rocketguardian2001
@rocketguardian2001 Жыл бұрын
Well I want my pizza fast and protected like royalty, so....
@Kyoptic
@Kyoptic Жыл бұрын
"Rolls Royce as a pizza delivery vehicle" Awesome but entirety unnecessary? Yeah that works pretty well as a simile. Kudos.
@johnhudghton2287
@johnhudghton2287 Жыл бұрын
I think your comments regarding Blackburn are spot on. Yep they built some duff aircraft but the Firebrand was not their fault and was a decent aircraft. However they made one of the best strike aircraft ever in the shape of the Buccaneer.
@stephenpointon
@stephenpointon Жыл бұрын
your final description of " offering incremental improvement when others are leaping forward" has just described so many projects and i am going to have to steal it for a presentation on a project I am giving to my bosses next week. May i suggest a couple of aircraft well worthy of their own vids the westland wyvern and the westland Welkin.
@Zorglub1966
@Zorglub1966 Жыл бұрын
The last piston engined fighters were really gorgeous.
@Farweasel
@Farweasel Жыл бұрын
But the Mk5 Spitfire was possibly, indeed probably, the nicest thing to fly - *ever* - from a Pilot's point of view. (Well, assuming you're going to fly the bloody thing not keep slamming it into carrier decks or suchlike tomfoolery)
@Zorglub1966
@Zorglub1966 Жыл бұрын
@@Farweasel I'm not going to fly the bloody thing!!! 😄My point of view was purely aesthetic.
@Farweasel
@Farweasel Жыл бұрын
@@Zorglub1966 That made me smile
@PaulMcElligott
@PaulMcElligott Жыл бұрын
Blackburn seems like they were very good at designing airplanes that looked like they had already crashed.
@JackManiacky
@JackManiacky Жыл бұрын
😆
@user-xq2zn8bu9q
@user-xq2zn8bu9q 9 ай бұрын
Brilliant. 😂
@callenclarke371
@callenclarke371 Жыл бұрын
The Firecrest was not the right aircraft at the right time, but I do think it had very pleasing lines.
@wyverncoch4430
@wyverncoch4430 Жыл бұрын
Eric ‘Winkle’ Brown has been mentioned in the last two clips, his biography is well worth reading. Highest number of carrier landings, Most types of aircraft flown, Flew most allied and axis aircraft used/produced during WW2 and many service aircraft post war. (includes: flying boats, single engine, multi engine, piston engine, jet engine, rocket (Komet) and rotary), first landing/take off on a carrier of a Mosquito and jet aircraft. Well worth a vid of his own.
@moss8448
@moss8448 Жыл бұрын
that guy could fly anything
@alexandermarken7639
@alexandermarken7639 Жыл бұрын
If Great Britain had done manned space launches I am sure he could have been the first into space as well. The same is true with the British Supersonic program. Not taking anything away from Chuck Yeager but Eir Brown has to be one of the best pilots who has ever lived.
@moss8448
@moss8448 Жыл бұрын
@@alexandermarken7639 well it was a simple fact of WWII draining Britain's resources. Rationing ended in `54 it was just a hard fact of WWII and yes he (Eric) was in the pantheon of fliers.
@alexandermarken7639
@alexandermarken7639 Жыл бұрын
@@moss8448 The British Empire had not overcome the cost of WW1 when WW2 began. By the end of the war it was in a terrible state and the refusal of certain powers to pay for the war supplies hardly helped. The British Supersonic program was ahead of the Americans at the time it was suspended, the all moving tail was given free of charge as well.
@moss8448
@moss8448 Жыл бұрын
@@alexandermarken7639 agree with you, that to me is what makes this partnership what it is
@aaronlopez492
@aaronlopez492 Жыл бұрын
Another great video Ed. If you keep this up, the volume of substantial mini-documentaries your going to spoil a lot of people...... Starting with me. 👍
@simonbrooks6073
@simonbrooks6073 Жыл бұрын
Skyraider was an amazing aircraft. Great analysis during this rapid transition from piston to jet.
@raven-wf9so
@raven-wf9so Жыл бұрын
There’s some really good videos on this channel, thanks for finding the somewhat obscure but interesting 👍👍
@Farweasel
@Farweasel Жыл бұрын
Ah, to be fair, at the time the Fleet Air arm was pogoing Vampires along Brit carriers the Yanks weren't even trying hard to bounce jet along theirs. And by the time they did get to F86 Sabers they had already run through Shooting Stars, Panthers (and was there another 'big cat' named thing?) *before* getting F86 Sabers.
@JohnyG29
@JohnyG29 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this fellow does very good videos but he leaves out or misses lots of stuff/context. I often get the feeling he is just regurgitating wikipedia articles, but they are concise videos so I am being rather unfair.
@johnshepherd8687
@johnshepherd8687 Жыл бұрын
I think you may be referring to the swept wing version of the Panther, the F9F-6 Cougar. The aircraft was about 20 mph slower than the Fury.
@mikepette4422
@mikepette4422 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting looking plane especially for Blackburn. Even beefier now and yet lighter which shows how ungainly the Firebrand III had become.
@foreverpinkf.7603
@foreverpinkf.7603 Жыл бұрын
A real beauty, but too late.
@JohnSmith-yv6eq
@JohnSmith-yv6eq Жыл бұрын
They took out the heavy armnament....40mm cannons..of the predecessor...and sugested .50 machine guns in external pods? That's just going backwards...
@dags6292
@dags6292 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos, thanks Ed
@robbudden
@robbudden Жыл бұрын
That is a good looking plane, it's no skyraider, but what is.
@owen368
@owen368 Жыл бұрын
Nicely donee Edd
@luvr381
@luvr381 Жыл бұрын
Good one, Ed.
@grizwoldphantasia5005
@grizwoldphantasia5005 Жыл бұрын
Well ... wow. I thought the Gannett was the only plane with two folds per wing. I wonder why no one copied Grumman's folding wing design. That dinky canopy and big fuselage make it look chunkier than the Thunderbolt and Skyraider. And a five-bladed propeller. But I actually like the looks of it. Peculiar enough to be function over form, and sleek enough to look capable.
@tarikwildman
@tarikwildman Жыл бұрын
Excellent Video, Ed. Now...you MUST do a piece on the wonderful and plagued WYVERN, one of my favourite aeroplanes for it´s looks, and at least it saw action in that 1956 bit of 1888 Gunboat Diplomacy Wannabe operation.... SUEZ !!
@TheStevewhelan
@TheStevewhelan Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of a pilot being told that his mission is to "Plod around smashing stuff" :)
@LV_CRAZY
@LV_CRAZY Жыл бұрын
Another excellent educational video on the more obscure aircraft of the era. Well, obscure because most Americans never heard of them. But now we know! Thank you.
@brianbooth4435
@brianbooth4435 Жыл бұрын
Please do the Wyvern.
@cdl0
@cdl0 Жыл бұрын
He will have to now; there is no way out of it.
@CAP198462
@CAP198462 Жыл бұрын
P-47: hi F-4U: howdy Blackburn Firecrest: mom, dad?
@PhantomLover007
@PhantomLover007 Жыл бұрын
Hey Ed. In the same token as the what if for the Martin Mauler, the Douglas BTD-1 Destroyer, Douglas Sky Pirate, and the Curtiss XSB-3C could be incorporated
@theymusthatetesla3186
@theymusthatetesla3186 Жыл бұрын
A good-looking plane, no doubt.
@parrotraiser6541
@parrotraiser6541 Жыл бұрын
Great phrase, "plod around and smash stuff"!
@gunner678
@gunner678 Жыл бұрын
It looks like the Aussie kangaroo fighter! Interesting video
@charlesrousseau6837
@charlesrousseau6837 Жыл бұрын
If it weren't for the Buccanneer, I'd almost feel sorry for Mr Blackburn. Maybe the saying nomen est omen has reflected on the majority of his company's aircraft designs.
@rogerjohnson6676
@rogerjohnson6676 Жыл бұрын
Watching your channel and others on Blackburn aircraft, it's a wonder that company ever made the Buccaneer.
@williammagoffin9324
@williammagoffin9324 Жыл бұрын
The RN ended up flying the Skyraider in the end.
@zednotzee7
@zednotzee7 Жыл бұрын
Yes, The RN used them in the airbourne early warning role. They had a sort of radar dome(ish ) along the centre-line, and had a 3 man crew. The RN never used them in the attack role.
@bigearl3867
@bigearl3867 Жыл бұрын
I did a little reading about the Blackburn aircraft limited. I found it interesting that around 1960 Hawker Siddeley, and Bristol Sidney took over the company. What I'd like to know is more about the Blackburn Hawker Siddeley Buccaneer. How did they keep them flying until 1994? Both companies had gone under by 1977. Where did they get spare parts?
@uingaeoc3905
@uingaeoc3905 Жыл бұрын
SIDDELY!
@bigearl3867
@bigearl3867 Жыл бұрын
@@uingaeoc3905 When I was looking at the name, my mind read Sidney. Today I was watching a video about the Nimrod. We both spelled it wrong. It's Siddeley, not Siddely. But thanks for bring this to my attention. (I've been saying the name wrong every since I first read about the Battle of Britain in 1975).
@uingaeoc3905
@uingaeoc3905 Жыл бұрын
@@bigearl3867 yes. The various aviation firms in the UK had mergers and joint ventures. So there were many different organisations with same names. So Vickers, Armstrongs and Siddeley can be found but with little connection to each other. There was a Vickers-Armstrong, an Armstrong-Siddeley, an Armstrong-Whitworth, a Bristol-Siddeley. Hawkers eventually acquired one of the Siddeley operations and became Hawker-Siddeley Group (DeHavilland,, Avro, Armstrong-Siddeley, Blackburn, Gloster). Bristol-Siddeley became part of the British Aircraft Corporation group (with Vickers-Armstrong, English Electric and some other smaller firms) nothing to do with Blackburns apart from providing engines, and spun off the engine group which then was acquired by Rolls-Royce Engines. Bristol-Siddeley Engines originated the Pegasus for the Harrier and the Olympus for Concorde.
@macjim
@macjim Жыл бұрын
Viewed in certain angles, you could mistake it for the Australian ’mustang’ if you covered over the radial engine. From others, it looked like it was about to trip over its nose due to the ‘cab forward’ design.
@TheGrant65
@TheGrant65 Жыл бұрын
"Australian Mustang"? In fact, the CAC CA-15 (unofficially the Kangaroo), was inspired (1943) by the Fw 190. In early drawings, the "radial CA-15" had notable similarities to the Fw 190 (and its high altitude derivative, the Ta-152). The CA-15 was then developed as a _replacement_ for the ~200 Mustangs built under licence by CAC (1945-46). That idea was scrapped after jets came on the scene.
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 Жыл бұрын
Fire this & Fire that... mater~a~fact you're ALL FIRED...
@user-xq2zn8bu9q
@user-xq2zn8bu9q 9 ай бұрын
Good one. 😂
@IvorMektin1701
@IvorMektin1701 Жыл бұрын
Douglas' secret was designing planes they thought the military would need without waiting for a request. Hence Skyraider and F-4 Phantom. They made a few lemons too.
@fredmyers120
@fredmyers120 Жыл бұрын
Not true on the Skyraider, & the Phantom was a McDonald evolution
@marklittle8805
@marklittle8805 Жыл бұрын
Douglas pretty much could anticipate what the Navy needed and hit the target. The FAA kept moving the goal posts and had radically changed the engine available as well as what the plane would do.
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 Жыл бұрын
Lemons?
@schore69
@schore69 Жыл бұрын
@@mbryson2899 are yellow sour citrus thingies!
@user-do5zk6jh1k
@user-do5zk6jh1k Жыл бұрын
They didn't make the Phantom
@JGCR59
@JGCR59 Жыл бұрын
Westland Wyvern needs a video :)
@iberiksoderblom
@iberiksoderblom Жыл бұрын
"just plud around and smash stuff". That made my day 😆
@davidrobinson4553
@davidrobinson4553 Жыл бұрын
Plod Around and Smash Stuff, Nice One Ed, Buccaneer Please 👍🇬🇧👍
@TomPrickVixen
@TomPrickVixen Жыл бұрын
Funny since the Wyvern also had a enormous tail, despite its counter-rotating props...
@Farweasel
@Farweasel Жыл бұрын
Historical accuaracy see - Wyverns, unlike Dragons, always had big tails with something of a nod toward the 'Thagomiser' at the end. Bit skimpy of Westland to simply put an arrestor hook there if we're being honest about things really.
@TomPrickVixen
@TomPrickVixen Жыл бұрын
@@Farweasel Yet Bethesda calls Wyverns as Dragons in TES.
@tarikwildman
@tarikwildman Жыл бұрын
May be as it was originally designed for the RR Eagle, not the Python?
@babboon5764
@babboon5764 Жыл бұрын
@@TomPrickVixen Bethesda wouldn't stand a chance if Bruce Lee was still around. He'd draw 'em a clear line between enter the Dragon, Enter the Wyvern and exit the Skyrim. (Unless Skyrims are supposed to be a sort of absent minded Dragon that lands front feet first on anti-personnel mines).
@allangibson8494
@allangibson8494 Жыл бұрын
The Wyvern started out it’s design life with a completely different engine (the Rolls Royce Eagle) and had four different engines (from different manufacturers) trialled before it got an Armstrong Siddeley Python gas turbine.
@peterk2455
@peterk2455 Жыл бұрын
7:33 That's the first time I've seen a Fury on a carrier. So much like the Sabre, but with folding wings
@ewhartiii
@ewhartiii Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what it was, a navalized Saber.
@DoWoZ
@DoWoZ Жыл бұрын
You can see so much of the Sea Fury in this Aircraft....did Hawker do some Poaching ?
@Insanitypants80
@Insanitypants80 Жыл бұрын
It's actually quite a good-looking aircraft. Had it come 10 years earlier it would have been amazing.
@rayjames6096
@rayjames6096 Жыл бұрын
The British were making bi-planes ten years earlier.
@solreaver83
@solreaver83 Жыл бұрын
Gday mate, great videos. Any chance you have looked into Australias Commonwealth Aircraft Corp. Jets? Love a video on some of the advanced jet design that werent built.
@EdNashsMilitaryMatters
@EdNashsMilitaryMatters Жыл бұрын
I'm tempted to cover the CAC sabre one day 😁
@solreaver83
@solreaver83 Жыл бұрын
@@EdNashsMilitaryMatters nice. Look up the ca-23 and ca-31 trainer.
@KevinSmith-vv2jd
@KevinSmith-vv2jd Жыл бұрын
Give us a video on the Wyvern, you known you want to.
@andrewpease3688
@andrewpease3688 Жыл бұрын
The first 100 or more of any aircraft are essentially prototypes/pre production. This was a huge problem for the British aircraft industry post ww2
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 Жыл бұрын
That & let's give our jet engine to the enemy who'll shoot us down with it later.
@jimdavis8391
@jimdavis8391 Жыл бұрын
Good point, the British aircraft industry needed to look towards greater export. The strength of Sterling may have been an issue there, American 'interests' certainly were.
@jimdavis8391
@jimdavis8391 Жыл бұрын
The superlative Sea Fury used the Centaurus engine in a smaller, lighter airframe, so why was excessive torque no issue there?
@allangibson8494
@allangibson8494 Жыл бұрын
The Sea Fury started its design life off with the Hawker Tornado in 1939 with a Rolls Royce Vulture. It was designed from the ground up for massive torque.
@simonmcowan6874
@simonmcowan6874 Жыл бұрын
Such a good looking aircraft though.
@rayjames6096
@rayjames6096 Жыл бұрын
Ungainly yet dainty...😳
@exb.r.buckeyeman845
@exb.r.buckeyeman845 Жыл бұрын
Still a beautiful aircraft.
@simonmcowan6874
@simonmcowan6874 Жыл бұрын
Shame,such a good looking aircraft.
@mracce55
@mracce55 Жыл бұрын
Did Blackburn ever make anything that was an out and out success? They always seem to be a " close, but no cigar" type of manufacturer.
@bob_the_bomb4508
@bob_the_bomb4508 Жыл бұрын
The Buccaneer
@paulnutter1713
@paulnutter1713 Жыл бұрын
the Beverly was very good at the job it was designed to do
@TypeZeta2
@TypeZeta2 Жыл бұрын
The buccaneer
@allandavis8201
@allandavis8201 2 ай бұрын
The fact that the design was submitted to the Admiralty and then a specification order to Blackburn issued is just a bit backwards, the Royal Navy and/or should be telling the brass what they wanted/needed and then the specification order issued, because of this “backwards” approach the actual needs of the end user get lost in translation, the piece of equipment needed doesn’t get built and then when it does enter service it is obsolete and not what the end users wanted, and perhaps if the end user was involved or consulted during the design and manufacturing process the number of failed/useless pieces of equipment would have been lower and more importantly the end users would have received the equipment they asked for.
@richardbrowne3641
@richardbrowne3641 Жыл бұрын
Eric Brown? Firecrest? It looks simular to a Sea Fury. The Sky Raider was better? I never knew the Sky Raider was a design better than a Firecrest and I never heard of a Firecrest being tested during the ending of WW2. I know the Sky Raider was an aircraft used in the Korean & Vietnam wars. I learned something new. Awesome video!
@joe7327
@joe7327 Жыл бұрын
"For it's ability to plod around and smash stuff." 🤣
@onkelmicke9670
@onkelmicke9670 Жыл бұрын
Well there isn't a wealth of videos on the Wyvern either
@eze8970
@eze8970 Жыл бұрын
🙏🙏
@rolanddutton
@rolanddutton Жыл бұрын
I was hoping you'd do a Firecrest video. Would have been a cool looking turboprop strike fighter, if the concept hadn't been rendered completely pointless.
@JohnyG29
@JohnyG29 Жыл бұрын
It didn't have a turboprop, just a normal radial. The Wyvern had a turboprop.
@rolanddutton
@rolanddutton Жыл бұрын
@@JohnyG29 there were plans for a Python powered Firecrest. It would have looked better than the Wyvern imo, if nothing else.
@stewartgrant9832
@stewartgrant9832 Жыл бұрын
Great to see some actual footage of a very rare type. Somehow Blackburn never quite got aviation. The Beverley was probably their best product?
@Nagumo9206
@Nagumo9206 Жыл бұрын
The Buccaneer was by far their most successful aircraft.
@sim.frischh9781
@sim.frischh9781 Жыл бұрын
"...for it´s valued abilities to just plot around and smash things" If there was ever said anything appropriate about the Skyraider, this is it XD
@MrMan5014
@MrMan5014 4 ай бұрын
There were many new developments in piston aircraft leading up to the end and after the war and that being said, one would think aircraft designers would only design better and better planes as time went on. This plane would be an example of an unacceptable failure in that order of progression …especially when P47’s and late model Corsairs were as good or much better than these newer developments…I guess that’s why they continued to build the Corsairs long after WW2 and well into the Korean War!…and the Seafury’s were even better again!..
@shauny2285
@shauny2285 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a fatter and longer F8F. See photo at 8:27 mark.
@user-en9zo2ol4z
@user-en9zo2ol4z 3 ай бұрын
Four bear? I am fairly certain it was three bears.
@ronaldharris6569
@ronaldharris6569 Жыл бұрын
Blackburn is siris cybernetics. So close to brilliant but always something missing or al little off. But they keep plugging away
@sealove79able
@sealove79able Жыл бұрын
I did not know there was the naval version of the Sabre.
@KevinSmith-vv2jd
@KevinSmith-vv2jd Жыл бұрын
Yep, armed with 4 20mm cannons.
@sealove79able
@sealove79able Жыл бұрын
@@KevinSmith-vv2jd Thank you.
@flyingarts6765
@flyingarts6765 Жыл бұрын
wasn't that the Fury?
@TypeZeta2
@TypeZeta2 Жыл бұрын
@@flyingarts6765 yes it was called the FJ Fury
@Trevor_Austin
@Trevor_Austin Жыл бұрын
Only the British could do this. We were so desperate to get rid of petrol from our aircraft carriers we went all out for turbine powered aircraft. The only problem is that most British jets at this time were started with Avpin, a mono-fuel aka explosive. Petrol was positively benevolent when compare with Avpin. Out of the frying pan and into the furnace.
@davefellhoelter1343
@davefellhoelter1343 Жыл бұрын
OR? you could just purchase Sky Raiders and have a known value that soldiered on for Generations as a well supported Flying Gun Truck/Tank?
@davefellhoelter1343
@davefellhoelter1343 Жыл бұрын
Is It Just Me? or do others see some Zero or Focke-Wulf in the look?
@elhanson5426
@elhanson5426 Жыл бұрын
I don't know, but I saw elements of the F4U Corsair in the cranked wing, and the vertical stabilizer mounted ahead of the horizontal stabilizer in the tail. The Corsair also had forward visibility problems because the main fuel tank was mounted ahead of the cockpit over the wing.
@johngritz9267
@johngritz9267 Жыл бұрын
What is Ed’s accent called?
@bentilbury2002
@bentilbury2002 Жыл бұрын
English. What did you think it was? If you mean regional accent, south-east English.
@EdNashsMilitaryMatters
@EdNashsMilitaryMatters Жыл бұрын
Messy. :) But I'm originally from Essex. Though as im married to an American I have developed the alarming tendency to say "pants" instead of trousers and occassionally "zee" instead of "zed" ;D
@comentedonakeyboard
@comentedonakeyboard Жыл бұрын
Yesterday: the Firebrand Today: the son of Firebrand Tomorrow: Return of the Firebrand Or perhaps: Revenge of the Firebrand How about: the Wrath of Firebrand
@apex107lrp
@apex107lrp Жыл бұрын
Postscript...this, the previous video and several earlier ones must, in the minds of many watchers, beg the question. "Did Blackburn make ANYTHING worth more than its weight in scrap?"😜
@davidbell1250
@davidbell1250 Жыл бұрын
It's natural to think that their record is mixed but they built 1,699 Fairey Swordfish and 700 Barracudas so as a contractor were of more worth, ironic that with their amalgamation looming their best work emerged with the Beverley and finally the Buccaneer. After ww2 they also made bread tins for Jackson's Bakeries - don't know if they were a successful design though!
@huskyflylangley6053
@huskyflylangley6053 Жыл бұрын
I like the Wyvern, but I'd put a round motor in it. Simple, air cooled and rugged, plus no valve lash adjustment and complicated tune ups due to sleeve valve design.
@JohnyG29
@JohnyG29 Жыл бұрын
Round motor?? Also, the Wyvern was powered by a turbo-prop, so it didn't have any valves.
@huskyflylangley6053
@huskyflylangley6053 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnyG29 Yes, that's true, but turboprops at the time were pretty unproven, so I figured the the Centaurus was a happy medium, reliable, powerful and proven. Over the open ocean that's valuable. Now if they had the later RR Dart or a single Mamba which were very reliable, yes indeed. In the late 40s though, turboprops like the Proteus had problems, even we Yanks had the horrible T-40 in the Skyshark which was essentially a turbine Skyraider. Even it reverted to the R-3350. I love AN-2s though, so I might have a bias towards roundies😂
@JohnyG29
@JohnyG29 Жыл бұрын
@@huskyflylangley6053 The Rolls Royce Dart was one of the first turboprops and was highly reliable. By the early 50s (the time of the Wyvern and aeroplanes like it) turboprops were well established and they have many advantages over piston engines.
@androidemulator6952
@androidemulator6952 Жыл бұрын
hmmm, Hawker Sea Fury copy , looks to me
@macjim
@macjim Жыл бұрын
Did Blackburn actual make any aircraft that were successful?
@JohnyG29
@JohnyG29 Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@TypeZeta2
@TypeZeta2 Жыл бұрын
The Buccaneer
@moosifer3321
@moosifer3321 Жыл бұрын
HEY Blackburn, save your efforts for the new kids (Jets!) - could you call it the Buccaneer? I`m SURE it could be a Winner and OUTLAST ALL previous designs (even if the RAF don`t REALLY want an Ex Navy `Plane). Cheers to Harold and co. for destroying our LEAD in Aircraft - Great Video, what else left in your mysterious little shed/hanger?
@JDWDMC
@JDWDMC Жыл бұрын
"Contra-Rotating Propellers."
@RemusKingOfRome
@RemusKingOfRome Жыл бұрын
Looks like a Fairy Battle to me .. obviously needed a turret ..
@johnjephcote7636
@johnjephcote7636 8 ай бұрын
Whereas the Sea Fury...
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 Жыл бұрын
A shame... It's absolutely lovely.
@salty4496
@salty4496 Жыл бұрын
:)
@uingaeoc3905
@uingaeoc3905 Жыл бұрын
How can you have a 2,475hp single seater and only achieve 380mph? Blackburn did produce some worthwhile designs in the 1930s for the RN eg the Shark. But nothing of merit in WW2 eg Botha. How did it achieve the incredible Buccaneer from this mess?
@RedXlV
@RedXlV Жыл бұрын
The real reason that the Firebrand and Firecrest were failures is that they weren't ugly enough to be Blackburn aircraft.
@anthonysantiago1999
@anthonysantiago1999 Жыл бұрын
She was a Beautiful Bird but too late to the party..
@MrDino1953
@MrDino1953 Жыл бұрын
With so many ugly and badly designed products, how did the Blackburn company stay solvent for so long?
@TelegraphRoadWhittier
@TelegraphRoadWhittier 3 ай бұрын
I'm just glad there was no Seacrest....as it would have been an idol failure......😂
@dkoz8321
@dkoz8321 Жыл бұрын
But Firecrest looked fantastic. It looked quite German. Like if Kriegsmarine had developed aircraft carriers and advanced, for WWII, torpedo and dive attack aircraft.
@paulqueripel3493
@paulqueripel3493 Жыл бұрын
How did Blackburn survive long enough to produce the Buccaneer? Everything else they designed seems to have been a dud. Also, how did they finally design something that worked?
@raymondyee2008
@raymondyee2008 Жыл бұрын
Holy cow...this plane is so fracking ugly.....
@sealove79able
@sealove79able Жыл бұрын
It looks like a bigger fw190.
@jamesbugbee9026
@jamesbugbee9026 Жыл бұрын
Firecrest also failed 2 uphold the Blackburn standard of ugliness
@gavinfroggatt1760
@gavinfroggatt1760 Жыл бұрын
Blackburn made some dreadfull crap, yet in the end they produced the superb Buccaneer.
@jean-francoislemieux5509
@jean-francoislemieux5509 Жыл бұрын
no wonder the brits were bankrupt at the end of the war... such quantity of redundant designs that go nowhere
@simong9067
@simong9067 Жыл бұрын
More due to buying the non-redundant designs in quantity.
@JohnyG29
@JohnyG29 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, they produced loads of great and successful aircraft designs. This channel just focuses on those lesser known/weirder British designs so it presents a rather distorted picture of the industry as a whole. All nations have a large back catalogue of designs that never made it for some reason or another.
@bentilbury2002
@bentilbury2002 Жыл бұрын
Um no, that's absolutely not why we were bankrupt.
@karlp8484
@karlp8484 Жыл бұрын
Pile of junk. 380 mph is ridiculously slow by 1945.
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