ASKING THE DEAD FOR HELP | TAWASSUL | SHIA BLADE RUNNER | ABDUL HAMEED | EX SHIA | SPEAKERS CORNER

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blackdunya

blackdunya

6 жыл бұрын

Surah Al Fatihah [1.5] "You alone do we worship, and You alone do we ask for help"
The living and the dead are not the same. Allah makes anyone He wills hear, you cannot make those in their graves hear (Qur'an 35:22)
"You cannot make the dead hear, you cannot make the deaf listen to your call when they turn their backs and leave." (Qur'an 27:80)
Abdul Hameed takes on Shia blade Runner who is arguing that it is permissable to say such things like Ya Ali, and asking the dead to Intercede for them, he is joined by saracen who defends this stance.
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@blackdunya
@blackdunya 3 жыл бұрын
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@siyar27
@siyar27 6 жыл бұрын
"There will come a time where nothing will be hidden except the truth, and nothing will be revealed except falsehood." Imam Ali(AS).
@zehraj726
@zehraj726 3 жыл бұрын
So true
@R.MaxumOff
@R.MaxumOff 3 жыл бұрын
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@Ismail-fv8dq
@Ismail-fv8dq 3 жыл бұрын
Calling upon other than Allah is the truth? Lmao speak about misguidance.
@momo-gp8kk
@momo-gp8kk 3 жыл бұрын
You leir
@shafqatishan437
@shafqatishan437 3 жыл бұрын
Ali radiallahu anhu, not imam ali as. He didn't say hide the truth on purpose, but shias are doing it from the beginning. Hence, Shiaism = falsehood.
@naimaali6929
@naimaali6929 5 жыл бұрын
Thee alone we worship, and thee alone we beseech for help.
@fintripod22
@fintripod22 2 жыл бұрын
Than why u ask a doctor for help when ur sick or ask someone to pray for you ? Ur understanding of this verse has to be expanded cause it wouldnt make sense that we can ask no one for help
@blackflag6976
@blackflag6976 2 жыл бұрын
@@fintripod22 Asking the dead for help is a doubtful thing since there is so much debate about it. So it's better to stay away.
@fintripod22
@fintripod22 2 жыл бұрын
@Adam Kazmi well quran says that those who die in the way of allah arnt died they are alive. So stop saying the prophet mubammad is died. Number 2 allah grants permission to the prophet to hear us just like when we send salams in our prayer derictly to him. Why send salams if he is died and he cant hear you ..
@PlayGuy200
@PlayGuy200 Жыл бұрын
@@fintripod22 that's someone that can actually do something for u while you're alive, what is a dead person going to do?
@fintripod22
@fintripod22 Жыл бұрын
@@PlayGuy200 bro you guys always change the goal post. You start with " you can ask anyone for help only Allah" than you change it to "they have to be alive" which one is it.
@khaledelmajzoub8860
@khaledelmajzoub8860 5 жыл бұрын
"If you invoke them, they do not hear your supplication; and if they heard, they would not respond to you. And on the Day of Resurrection they will deny your association. And none can inform you like [one] Acquainted [with all matters]." Fatir 35::14
@Retro_sayian01
@Retro_sayian01 6 ай бұрын
35:13 "He merges the night into the day and the day into the night, and has subjected the sun and the moon, each orbiting for an appointed term. That is Allah-your Lord! All authority belongs to Him. But those ˹idols˺ (Ali, zahra, hussein, muhammed) you invoke besides Him do not possess even the skin of a date stone."
@AGTV10
@AGTV10 6 жыл бұрын
These types of discussions are the examples of how we as Muslims should interact with each other. Not kill or hate each other. Well done ya akhwan may Allah swt guide us. Ameen
@mr.x653
@mr.x653 Жыл бұрын
Only possible in Western countries that limit the abilities of Muslims. If the 'Sunni' guys took charge they would instantly kill these people
@Ibrahim.l20
@Ibrahim.l20 Жыл бұрын
That guy is a rafidhi who says Muawiyah is a munafiq
@Ibrahim-fh6kv
@Ibrahim-fh6kv 10 ай бұрын
@@Ibrahim.l20 Wait a minute according to sunni logic, if you reject Abu Bakr and Omar Caliph, you are not muslim this is according to your sunni logic. But Hazarat Ali and Hazarat lady Fatima did not pledge alliengence to Abu Bakr, what do you say about that? And what is more ironic is that when Hazarat Ali became the caliph, there was rebellion, and they rejected his caliph and most of these were your beloved sahaba that you praise even today, including Muawiyah (also who made the worst regretful decision of his life to appoint his son yazid as his successor). If you use your sunni logic in this one, what do you think that means? [I aksed this to soo many sunni they either stayed slient or run away from question or trying to justify their action were right].
@eckofreshmm
@eckofreshmm 6 жыл бұрын
Ya Allah, unite all your Ummah without distinction for Sunni-Shia, Ya Allah, make Muslims to leave deviation and Bidah and follow Noble Quran and Sunnah of our Beloved Prophet SAWS
@bilalalmurtaza2733
@bilalalmurtaza2733 Жыл бұрын
امين يا رب 🤲
@isfe6775
@isfe6775 Жыл бұрын
Ameen
@abdurrahmanmuhammad7527
@abdurrahmanmuhammad7527 6 жыл бұрын
Why Can you not just call upon Allah only for help.
@syedmuhammadoan2039
@syedmuhammadoan2039 6 жыл бұрын
when someone comes to beg you for money. When are you most willing to give money? When they ask you or when they use your loved ones as a wasila i.e when they say, please for your parents give me something? Allah loves when you mention the people he loves in your dua. Offcourse there is no harm is directly asking Allah but wasila makes the dua more effective :). It's such a simple concept
@syedmuhammadoan2039
@syedmuhammadoan2039 6 жыл бұрын
ok first of all please stop using surah 39:3 the guy in debate wasted his time arguing about it. This surah is about worshiping anyone other than Allah. We don't worship them brother. About the first ayat. Are you sure by invoke it doesn't mean woshipping them? Anyways you should have read this ayat too :) "O you who have believed, fear Allah and seek the means [of nearness] to Him and strive in His cause that you may succeed." (Surah Mai’dah verse 35, Surah 5) And please don't say by "means" it means prayers , they are obligatory so cannot be the only means :) and if using waseela or any mean is shirk why does Allah want us to find means to get close to him?
@syedmuhammadoan2039
@syedmuhammadoan2039 6 жыл бұрын
and brother you and a lot of people need to understand the difference between associating partners (Shirk) and using great people as means of nearness to him (Waseela)
@syedmuhammadoan2039
@syedmuhammadoan2039 6 жыл бұрын
ohh and @Dow jones you obviously must have read that people used to come to Rasool e khuda pbuh so that he pbuh would make dua for them. Why ? Why were they not directly asking Allah. why would they come to the prophet. Why was prophet ok with that. And Please don't say that he was alive . A martyr is also alive . So when we say Ya Ali Madad. We know that Imam Ali can't give us anything without the will of Allah. But we say this so Allah may listen to us more. these great people are our means to get closer to Allah. It's a really simple concept brother. I hope you understand my point
@disneychannelflow2502
@disneychannelflow2502 6 жыл бұрын
Surah 1:5......"It is You we worship and You we ask for help" That pretty much sums it.
@nasserm.nasser5087
@nasserm.nasser5087 6 жыл бұрын
I was a suffi. We were more connected to the teachings of our sheikhs than even Quran and sunnah, reading their books more than revelations. This is the problem of all people of innovations, they follow ambigues verses while Allah is the source of our creation and worship and purpose of our life. The people of Nuh AS built the statues of their saints so that they can remind them of their righteousness. Later they were asking for intercesion and finallz they worshiped them. People Allah is closer to us than our jagular vains. He put angels on our sides to record our every action. We need to focus on Allah alone just like how the holy men were wrking so hard to get closer to Allah.
@AZHARFAUJI
@AZHARFAUJI 6 жыл бұрын
A very good debate. Respect from all, no shouting and educational.
@ibmlenovo1
@ibmlenovo1 6 жыл бұрын
I heard the whole stuff and read lot of comments and came to the conclusion that Br Hamid is right and that any possibility of waseela and niyya will create problems of faith and the message of prophet and Quran and we would send wrong signals to Muslims and non muslims alike. Therefore I 'll stick to Quran and ask Allah directly. Nobody knows the niyya of others. What were the Shia of Afghanistan thinking when they joined hands with Americans, and In Syria Lebanon Iraq. Just ask God direct if He wants to help you He will, or you are divided. Even if i beleaved in waseela I would not go to loose 80% of my brother in religion for that neither is Allah going to appreciate that Wassalam
@SamiKhan-ky6rb
@SamiKhan-ky6rb 2 жыл бұрын
well said brother thanks for this comment
@Admin-nz8em
@Admin-nz8em 10 ай бұрын
This is a very bad argument. Islam isnt about finding the middle ground its about finding truth. If seeking a means to find allah through intercession is Allowed then it shouldnt be stopped
@Iam_GodAmbassador
@Iam_GodAmbassador 2 ай бұрын
So why are you praying to the Kaba and the black stone, ignorance is a disease indeed
@zahirkhan-yq3gr
@zahirkhan-yq3gr 3 жыл бұрын
Saying- Ya Rasool Madad, Ya Ali Madad, Ya Ghous Madad, Ya Hasan or Husain Madad, Etc Are ALL INCLUDED IN SHIRK. Say ONLY : " YA ALLAH MADAD" " You (Alone) We Worship, And You (Alone) We Ask For Help (For Each And Everything)" - Qur'an 1:5 Note : Madad means 'Help'
@captainbarbosa6810
@captainbarbosa6810 2 жыл бұрын
Ya rasool madad
@zahirkhan-yq3gr
@zahirkhan-yq3gr 2 жыл бұрын
@@captainbarbosa6810 Nabi(S.a.w) Cannot madad lol
@captainbarbosa6810
@captainbarbosa6810 2 жыл бұрын
@@zahirkhan-yq3gr then why will you go to them on the day of judgement? Why not ask Allah "direct"
@zahirkhan-yq3gr
@zahirkhan-yq3gr 2 жыл бұрын
@@captainbarbosa6810 on the day of Judgement is Nabi(S.a.w) gonna be there or not?? nabi(s.a.w) will also gonna pray to ALLAH
@zahirkhan-yq3gr
@zahirkhan-yq3gr 2 жыл бұрын
@@captainbarbosa6810 (46:9) Tell them: “I am not the first of the Messengers; and I do not know what shall be done with me or with you. I follow only what is revealed to me, and I am nothing but a plain warner.”12
@covffchannel
@covffchannel 6 жыл бұрын
Just stay away from asking others. Keep islam pure.
@parsa9845
@parsa9845 6 жыл бұрын
Nice seeing Shia and Sunni having a civilised and brotherly discussion
@hadihussain6934
@hadihussain6934 6 жыл бұрын
Ad Raj who told you that??
@parsa9845
@parsa9845 6 жыл бұрын
Ad Raj you are on delusional misguided person.
@nightrunner4302
@nightrunner4302 6 жыл бұрын
PARSA98 I agree brother parsa
5 жыл бұрын
PARSA98 the Sunni attacked the Shia in another video same guys
@UmarFarooq-ig3sr
@UmarFarooq-ig3sr 5 жыл бұрын
Shia is proper confused on very simple matter. It's very hard for them to ask Allah alone. May Allah guide them to Truth
@skylimit36
@skylimit36 4 жыл бұрын
I had one question for you umar farooq.. Tell me how many days Allah tells ummah to keep roza And how many rakah of nimaz to do
@amranxtv3261
@amranxtv3261 4 жыл бұрын
The one who doesn’t understand Tawassul is the confused one. Tawassul is accepted by Sunnis, it’s just the Omayyad-Wahabi wing that denies it.
@soothingandmediating5426
@soothingandmediating5426 4 жыл бұрын
@@skylimit36 dont you know that bruh??
@parsasalmanyan2853
@parsasalmanyan2853 3 жыл бұрын
Umar Farooq the reason is Allah love them more and maybe if we want them to want help on our behalf Allah may put more to us or bring our dreams to reality.
@zehraj726
@zehraj726 3 жыл бұрын
I think that it’s vise versa
@mrmantis84
@mrmantis84 2 жыл бұрын
Bismillah ramhman arahim, asalamu alaykum warahmat allah wabarakatu. Very good discussion brothers, very beneficial! thank you very much. i wish more would speak with each other with this kind of respect without rebuking each other. we are all here with the same goal and that is the Love and Pleasure of Allah, insha Allah
@nazimsaiyed4030
@nazimsaiyed4030 6 жыл бұрын
Alhamdulillah glad this is healthy discussion we should keep calm all the time like this brother. Allah keep all of us on the straight path.
@lavishlyenigmatic
@lavishlyenigmatic 5 жыл бұрын
Asking dead for help ?no matter how you twist it in what ways you bend this it doesnt make sense and it goes against all Quranic teaching .clear as crystal !!
@hazzznain
@hazzznain 4 жыл бұрын
Lost Serendipity shias are pagan
@syedbaqir2687
@syedbaqir2687 4 жыл бұрын
@@hazzznain said by pagan master
@stonecold3226
@stonecold3226 2 жыл бұрын
Quran says those who are martyred are alive, you just don’t feel it.
@RobenArjen
@RobenArjen Жыл бұрын
In Quran chapter 6 verse 169 it says those who are matyrs during 1400 years ago are not dead but alive, check it up
@nasseralkaabi1322
@nasseralkaabi1322 5 жыл бұрын
اللهم صلي على محمد و على ال محمد ❤
@whyilikebeingscaredofevery6219
@whyilikebeingscaredofevery6219 6 жыл бұрын
I love all my muslim brothers! May Allah bless them with love and happiness!
@alhamdoulilahalhamdoulilah7984
@alhamdoulilahalhamdoulilah7984 3 жыл бұрын
Shia not Muslim brothers
@5maz
@5maz 4 жыл бұрын
MashaAllah, Zain has a good grasp of the subject...it's good to see that the guy on the right is respectful, and they are having a discussion not an argument
@shahidkkn
@shahidkkn 6 жыл бұрын
thank you my brother for bringing up such a big issue
@rashik0321
@rashik0321 6 жыл бұрын
3:24 to 3:30 -> Random guy : "You loosing weight Akhi?" Brother Abdul : "yeah alhumdulilah" Random guy : " Or are you holding your belly" Brother Abdul : "I stopped eating chips" Random guy : "Mash'Allah" LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
@ISLAMisHAQALLAHisONE
@ISLAMisHAQALLAHisONE 6 жыл бұрын
Allah the Almighty said: “Do they attribute as partners to Allaah those who created nothing but they themselves are created? No help can they give them, nor can they help themselves. And if you call them to guidance, they follow you not. It is the same for you whether you call them or you keep silent. Verily, those whom you call upon besides Allaah are slaves like you. So call upon them and let them answer you if you are truthful” (Surah al-A’raaf 7:191-194) Allah The Sustainer said: “And who is more astray than one who calls on (invokes) besides Allaah, such as will not answer him till the Day of Resurrection, and who are (even) unaware of their calls (invocations) to them? And when mankind are gathered (on the Day of Resurrection), they (false deities) will become their enemies and will deny their worshipping” (Surah al-Ahqaaf 46:6) Allah the Most Exalted said: “And those, whom you invoke or call upon instead of Him, own not even a Qitmir (the thin membrane over the date-stone). If you invoke (or call upon) them, they hear not your call, and if (in case) they were to hear, they could not grant it (your request) to you. And on the Day of Resurrection, they will disown your worshipping them. And none can inform you (O Muhammad) like Him Who is the All-Knower (of each and everything).” (Surah Fatir 35: 13,14) Allah the Almighty said: “Turn [only] to Allah , not associating [anything] with Him. And he who associates with Allah - it is as though he had fallen from the sky and was snatched by the birds or the wind carried him down into a remote place.” (Surah Al hajj 22:31) Allah the Most Merciful said: "And invoke not besides Allah any that will neither profit you nor hurt you, but if (in case) you did so, you shall certainly be one of the polytheists and wrongdoers. And if Allah touches you with hurt, there is none who can remove it but He; and if He intends any good for you, there is none who can repel His favors which He causes to reach whomsoever of His slaves He wills. And He is the Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful" (Surah Yunus 10:106-107) Allah the Exalted said: "And he who associates others with Allah has certainly gone far astray’’ (surah An-Nisa 4:116) Allah the Exalted said: “We wronged them not, but they wronged themselves. So their âliha (gods), other than Allâh, whom they invoked, profited them naught when there came the Command of your Lord, nor did they add aught (to their lot) but destruction” Hud (11):101 Allah the Almighty said: “Surely, the religion (i.e. the worship and the obedience) is for Allah only. And those who take Auliya' (protectors and helpers) besides Him (say) : "We worship them only that they may bring us near to Allah." Verily, Allah will judge between them concerning that wherein they differ. Truly, Allah guides not him who is a liar, and a disbeliever.” (Surah Az-Zumar 39:3) Allah the Almighty said: “And when those who associated others with Allah see their "partners," they will say," Our Lord, these are our partners [to You] whom we used to invoke besides You." But they will throw at them the statement, "Indeed, you are liars." (Surah Al Nahl 16:86) Allah the Almighty said: "You alone we worship; You alone we ask for help" [Al-Qur'an 1:5] The Prophet (ﷺ) said "Whoever dies while invoking anything other than Allah as a rival, will enter Hell (Fire) And I said, "Whoever dies without invoking anything as a rival to Allah, will enter Paradise." (Sahih al Bukhari Book 65, Hadith 4497) Nu’man ibn Bashir (RA) narrated the Prophet (SAW) said: “The supplication is itself worship.” Then he recited. And your Lord says, “Call upon Me, and I shall answer you. Surely those who are too arrogant to worship Me, they shall enter Hell, disgraced.” (40: 60) [Tirmidhi (5/456) No. 3372, Abu Dawud (2/76) No. 1479, Ibn Majah (5/5) No. 3828, Ahmad (4/271) No. 18410] ONLY BY ALLAH'S MERCY ONE CAN ENTER JANNAH Narrated Abu Huraira (RadhiAllahu 'anhu): Allah's Messenger ﷺ said: "The deeds of anyone of you will not save you (from the (Hell) Fire)." They said: "Even you (will not be saved by your deeds), O Allah's Apostle ﷺ?" He (Allah's Messenger ﷺ) said: "No, even I (will not be saved) unless and until Allah bestows His mercy on me. Therefore, do good deeds properly, sincerely and moderately, and worship Allah in the forenoon and in the afternoon and during a part of the night, and always adopt a middle, moderate, regular course whereby you will reach your target (paradise)." [Sahih Bukhari - Book 76, Hadith 470] THE DEAD CANNOT BENEFIT THE LIVING EXCEPT FOR HIMSELF IN THE FOLLOWING 3 THINGS: Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “When the human being dies, his deeds come to an end except for three: ongoing charity, beneficial knowledge, or a righteous child who prays for him.” Sahih Muslim 1631 To Call Upon Other Than Allah aqeedah.wordpress.com/2007/03/17/to-call-upon-other-than-allah/
@M1GarandPing
@M1GarandPing 6 жыл бұрын
Thee Alone We Worship; Thee Alone We Ask For Help S1:V5 game over closed casket
@M1GarandPing
@M1GarandPing 3 жыл бұрын
@Ali Haidar my friend, i want u to realize that u just used your intellect to try and justify something. Whereas the original poster quoted verse after verse. Forget that. Why invoke other then allah when you alrdy know that allah controls all things. Why take a risk of shirk, when u can just invoke allah? Shouldnt u be safe rather than sorry? Think about that.
@M1GarandPing
@M1GarandPing 3 жыл бұрын
@Ali Haidar why would u ask the prophets when u could ask allah :s
@islamapologist5756
@islamapologist5756 6 жыл бұрын
MASHALLAH nice disscussion ....we need that type of shia muslim,sunni muslim or other muslims debate that helps to understand eachother
@diariodeunmillonario
@diariodeunmillonario 6 жыл бұрын
I like how the guy on the left processing all this 😂 good man
@GEEKSYFE
@GEEKSYFE 6 жыл бұрын
The hadith about the Blind man: The person prayed to Allah swt not to Mohammed pbuh. And he asked ALLAH swt to accept the prayer of the prophet pbuh. So the Blind man didn't commit wassila as you guys believe in. And ALLAH swt knows best.
@GEEKSYFE
@GEEKSYFE 6 жыл бұрын
islamqa.info/en/97600
@nightrunner4302
@nightrunner4302 6 жыл бұрын
That was the Shias arguement .... The Hadith says the blind man prayer to god and used prophet mohamed as a wasila. Shias and orthodox Sunnis see this as permissible . The salafi said even this is not allowed outside of the three conditions he mentioned . Respect
@fernandotorres5730
@fernandotorres5730 6 жыл бұрын
The blind says 'O MOHAMMED' he is talking directly to mohammed. If i say 'O geeksyfe" it means im talking directly to you. When he says 'O Allah' it means hes talking directly to Allah. Then when he says "O Mohammed" it means hes talking directly to Mohammed. So he's praying to Mohammed. Its not rocket science. Tirmidhi explains the blind man as saying "O Allah i ask you and turn to you through my prophet mohammed. O Mohammed I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight".
@fernandotorres5730
@fernandotorres5730 6 жыл бұрын
This is why Abu Bakr tells people to stop worshipping Mohammed, because they used to worship him with Allah. Don't you get it? Sahih bukhari Vol. 5, Book 57, Hadith 19 "....Abu Bakr praised and glorified Allah and said, No doubt! Whoever worshipped Muhammad, then Muhammad is dead, but whoever worshipped Allah, then Allah is Alive and shall never die....."
@nightrunner4302
@nightrunner4302 6 жыл бұрын
fernando torres Exactly . He is using prophet mohamed as a wasila , a means to get closer to god . What he done is correct. And it is permissible . That is our arguement .....
@razna2001
@razna2001 6 жыл бұрын
Those call on son of Mary is kaafir calling on ali is Muslim ???? What a bad judgment is this ?
@frankh9326
@frankh9326 4 жыл бұрын
Christians call Jesus lord...god...shia says prophet and ali are the best "slaves of allah" if u r blind to see the difference that's your problem
@ajc1753
@ajc1753 4 жыл бұрын
@@frankh9326 Some shias make Ali and the Ahlul Bayt like Allah Astagfirullah, these lot are Mushrikeen
@ajc1753
@ajc1753 3 жыл бұрын
@Ali Haidar They are alive in Hayatul Barzakh not Hayatul Dunya
@ajc1753
@ajc1753 3 жыл бұрын
@Ali Haidar Mikhail Alayhis Salam is alive and he is part of the Unseen
@ajc1753
@ajc1753 3 жыл бұрын
@Ali Haidar Thats why we cant see Angels and Jinns
@MurdocK786
@MurdocK786 6 жыл бұрын
Great debate brothers 🙏
@aliheatherali5580
@aliheatherali5580 5 жыл бұрын
That Shia guy is fantastic jeo Brother Bless you
@mz8452
@mz8452 6 жыл бұрын
The moment when the shi'a guy is more of a Sunni than the guy who is claiming to be a Sunni. What a time to be living in
@syedbaqir2687
@syedbaqir2687 4 жыл бұрын
we are all muslims
@rhussskheyr7176
@rhussskheyr7176 Жыл бұрын
Show me where the Shia is more than a Sunni when he curses the companions ?
@NUWAUBIANSNIPERTV
@NUWAUBIANSNIPERTV 6 жыл бұрын
@blackdunya Great video
@blackdunya
@blackdunya 6 жыл бұрын
Nice one b👊
@daisyk9845
@daisyk9845 6 жыл бұрын
Very intelligent shia brother, May Allah guide him to His straight path. ameen
@idriskhan7232
@idriskhan7232 5 жыл бұрын
yes it takes intelligence to deny and twist the truth.
@alizaidi9567
@alizaidi9567 11 ай бұрын
@@idriskhan7232 funny you talk about Truth. When you would rather follow the supposed companions of the Prophet (saww) rather than his own flesh and blood.
@haithamali2161
@haithamali2161 6 жыл бұрын
Three ayat combo for Shia on this matter: 1. Sura Fatir Aya 13 & 14 (35:13-14) He causes the night to enter the day, and He causes the day to enter the night and has subjected the sun and the moon - each running [its course] for a specified term. That is Allah, your Lord; to Him belongs sovereignty. And those whom you invoke other than Him do not possess [as much as] the membrane of a date seed.If you invoke them, they do not hear your supplication; and if they heard, they would not respond to you. And on the Day of Resurrection they will deny your association. And none can inform you like [one] Acquainted [with all matters]. 2. Sura Az-Zumar Aya 3 (39:3) Unquestionably, for Allah is the pure religion. And those who take protectors besides Him [say], "We only worship them that they may bring us nearer to Allah in position." Indeed, Allah will judge between them concerning that over which they differ. Indeed, Allah does not guide he who is a liar and [confirmed] disbeliever. 3. Sura Yunus Aya 18-19 (10:18-19) And they worship other than Allah that which neither harms them nor benefits them, and they say, "These are our intercessors with Allah " Say, "Do you inform Allah of something He does not know in the heavens or on the earth?" Exalted is He and high above what they associate with Him. And mankind was not but one community [united in religion], but [then] they differed. And if not for a word that preceded from your Lord, it would have been judged between them [immediately] concerning that over which they differ. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJPaZYNvjLR7lck And the bonus knockout ayas: Sura Ghafir Aya 60 (40:60): And your Lord says, "Call upon Me; I will respond to you." Indeed, those who disdain My worship will enter Hell [rendered] contemptible. Sura Az-Zumar Aya 45 (39:45): And when Allah is mentioned alone, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter shrink with aversion, but when those [worshipped] other than Him are mentioned, immediately they rejoice.
@truthprevails9609
@truthprevails9609 6 жыл бұрын
i am shocked at their arrogance and ignorance,,,, may ALLAAH(SWT) Guide these 2 to correct sunnaah,,
@MrBackbone27
@MrBackbone27 6 жыл бұрын
Amin Allah humma amin...
@fatoomabbas2984
@fatoomabbas2984 6 жыл бұрын
Ali Ibrahim Naqvi reply appreciated ,stay blessed
@AA-uo5qe
@AA-uo5qe 6 жыл бұрын
May Allah bless brother zain and increase his Knowledge! Ameen
@m.h.k4214
@m.h.k4214 6 жыл бұрын
nice, cool and calm behavior from all of them. this is how the debate should be. but in other debates the big guy looked like he just want to win the debate and not for educational purpose
@alihamza9338
@alihamza9338 5 жыл бұрын
I swear Shias and even their kids are logical and knowledgable...
@istandforjustice143
@istandforjustice143 6 жыл бұрын
I have not watched the complete video, but I thought I had to comment. I think this is a very simple debate to resolve. I am not sure why Abdul Hameed should resort to technical verses when the opening of the Quran sums it all up. Why still pull out hadeeths and long long explanations. The Quran is the only source that both Shia and Sunni cannot deny. Muslims read Surah Fatiha(t) a minimum of 17 times a day. This surah is also called Ummul Quran/ Ummul Kitab. Some Muslim scholars also say that this surah is like a summary of the Quran, if you study or go deep into it. The verse/ayaat I am interested in and is directly related to this debate, is the verse that says(1:5) 'You(Allah) ALONE we worship and You(Allah) ALONE do we seek/ask/beseech for help'. As we see clearly by this verse, being 1 of the first ones you read when opening the Quran, it emphatically states who Muslims should only ask for help. My question for a Shia or one of the extreme Sufi's is....After reading these verse(s) a minimum of 17 times a day, how do you turn to someone who is dead to ask for help after practically saying to Allah in your prayer that he is the only one that you ask for help? How ironic does that sound?
@selinawoods3183
@selinawoods3183 6 жыл бұрын
What a great answer
@pathwaytojannah1
@pathwaytojannah1 6 жыл бұрын
People like you make my job easier, well said !
@s.k5912
@s.k5912 6 жыл бұрын
Below are hadith from Salafis wahabis own books that they are contradicting today. followed by versus from the Quaran Hafidhh Ibn Taymiyya writes: Some people came to the grave of our Prophet, (May Allah bless him and grant him peace), and requested something, and their needs were fulfilled. In the like manner, the pious people can also fulfill the needs of people - and we do not deny this [Iqtida as Sirat al-Mustaqim, - page 373, Hafidhh Ibn Taymiyya] Hafidhh Ibn-e-Taymiyya writes that: Ibn Musayab’s listening of the adhan from the Prophet’s grave or the returning of salaam from the graves of the Awliya, is haqq and we believe in it. [Iqtida as Sirat al-Mustaqim, page 373] Hafidhh Ibn al Qayyim writes: After dying, the Ruh (Spirit) can do those things that it cannot do when the person is alive in the dunya, (world) just as one or two Ruhs defeated a large army. Many companions relate that they saw the Messenger of Allah, (May Allah bless him and grant him peace), Abu Bakr and ‘Umar, May Allah be well pleased with them, in their dreams at night fighting with them against the kuffar and winning the battle. Then it became a reality: on the following day a small army of Muslims defeated an army of many, many kafirs. [Kitab ar-Ruh, chapter 15, Hafidhh Ibn al Qayyim] Hafidhh ibn Taymiyya says that: In the time of a drought, a person came to our Prophet’s grave and complained about the drought. He then saw our Prophet, (May Allah bless him and grant him peace), who said go to ‘Umar and tell him to perform the Salaah of Istisqah. There are numerous true narrations similar to this. [Iqtisa Sirat al Mustaqim, page 373, Also Imam Bukhari has mentioned about this in his book, Tarikh al Kabir, biography of Malik al dar] Hafidhh ibn Taymiyya and Qadi Shawkani quote the following hadith: ‘Abd Allah bin Mas’ud, may Allah be pleased with Him, reported that our Prophet, (May Allah bless him and grant him peace), stated: “If you ever find yourselves stranded alone in a desolate place or jungle, then say, ‘O servants of Allah! Help me, Allah have mercy on you.’” [Al-Kalim al-Tayyib, page 69, by Hafidhh ibn Taymiyya, and Qadi Shawkani in Tufhat ad-Dhakireen, page 130. Ibn Sunni, Imam Bazaar, Hafidhh al Hasamim and Imam Nawawi all quote this hadith also in their various books.] Hafidhh Ibn Taymiyya writes: A person came to the blessed grave of the Messenger of Allah, (May Allah bless him and grant him peace), and requested food from the Prophet and sat down. After a while a Hashmi [a member of the Prophet’s (May Allah bless him and grant him peace] family came to him. He had with him a tray of food, and said, “this food has been sent by the Prophet, (May Allah bless him and grant him peace), and with it he gave a message: eat it and leave from here because whoever loves us does not make this kind of desire”. [Iqtida as Sirat al Mustaqim, page 290 by Hafidhh Ibn Taymiyya] The help that is sought from the anbiya or awliya is within their capability. For example, it is permissible for one to request a deceased person to make a du’a, as it has already been proved that the deceased can make du’a. This means that asking help from another which is out of their capacity is not shirk. Hafidhh ibn al-Qayyim explained in his book Kitab al-Ruh. Hafidhh Ibn al Qayyim states: Many people saw Hafidhh Ibn Taymiyyah after his death in their dreams and asked him many difficult questions on issues of Fiqh Masaa’il and he replied to all their questions. Only those people can reject this who are ignorant of the status of the spirits (Arwah) [Kitab-ar-Ruh, end of chapter 3., Hafidhh Ibn al-Qayyim] From the Quran And do not say about those who are killed in the way of Allah, "They are dead." Rather, they are alive, but you perceive [it] not. [2:154] Verily, your Walee (Protector or Helper) is Allah, His Messenger, and the believers, - those who perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and give Zakat, and they bow down (submit themselves with obedience to Allah in prayer). [Quran - Al Maeeda 5:55] O ye who believe! Be mindful of your duty to God, and seek the way of approach unto Him [al-wasilah] (5:35) Those unto whom they cry seek the way of approach [al-wasilah] to their Lord, which of them shall be the nearest; they hope for His mercy and they fear His doom. Lo! the doom of thy Lord is to be shunned (17:57). When it is said to the hypocrites, come let the Prophet ﷺ intercede on your behalf, then they will turn their heads away in pride' (Quran, Al Munafiqoon - 63:5) This should be enough for you and for me May Allah forgive me
@leo4912007
@leo4912007 5 жыл бұрын
Read the surah completely it also says which tells about waseela to keep me on the path of those whom Allah blessed not on those path whom Allah rejected. Allah is giving the example of waseelah. Allah himself used waseela (Angel and Prophet) to send religion to us, even Allah is capable to send religion directly to us but Allah used wasella to teach us to use wasella to reach Allah. In Quran Allah sais to hold rope that rope is an example of waseela.
@enesa6489
@enesa6489 5 жыл бұрын
Lol your argument is not relevant .Tawassul has nothing to with worshipping others.
@BIGHAMZA
@BIGHAMZA 6 жыл бұрын
Zakariya Steady Mobbing in the Background. Lol. Alhamdulilah.
@falahfull1180
@falahfull1180 6 жыл бұрын
May Allah guide us on the right path and bring us together ... we can never questions someone’s heart, but for the good of the nation, to clearly represent our faith in the eyes of Allah and all Muslims so their is no confusion, we should omit the intercessors or calling to or having an intermediary when worshiping or mentioning Allah. Why take a chance when worshipping to add an intermediary person while worshipping Allah alone, even if your intention is not to put him on the same level of Allah. Just for the fact of confusion and wasting time in this short life of debating against other Muslims when we should be talking to non Muslims or doing charity and volunteering we should avoid things that affect the nation as a whole and bring confusion and controversy with our differences.
@Ruthybwn
@Ruthybwn 5 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that there’s just a lil casual “I stopped eating chips” in the midst of this serious debate 😂
@boxingmonthly
@boxingmonthly 4 жыл бұрын
ru Muslim?
@Ruthybwn
@Ruthybwn 4 жыл бұрын
BoxingMonthly no but I have a lot of respect for Islam and Muslims and just find stuff like this really interesting
@boxingmonthly
@boxingmonthly 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ruthybwn bless you
@boxingmonthly
@boxingmonthly 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ruthybwn im of mixed background and have some Christian family too. Any questions please feel free:)
@Ruthybwn
@Ruthybwn 4 жыл бұрын
BoxingMonthly thank you very much :)
@zahirkhan-yq3gr
@zahirkhan-yq3gr 2 жыл бұрын
ya Ali CANNOT madad
@homophobicnormal9015
@homophobicnormal9015 Жыл бұрын
It can
@dononeeye9912
@dononeeye9912 Жыл бұрын
​@@homophobicnormal9015 f u
@truthoverhappiness7338
@truthoverhappiness7338 6 жыл бұрын
Imam Suyuti (Allah have mercy on him) authored a book related to the states of the deceased and the grave. Therein is a chapter entitled, “Presentation of the deeds of the living to the deceased” [Suyuti, Sharh as-Sudur]. He relates: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “Certainly your actions are presented to your close relatives and kinsfolk from amongst the deceased. So, if your actions were good, they are delighted by it and if they are other than that - they say, “Our Lord, do not cause them to die until You guide then like You guided us.” [Imam Ahmad: Musnad from Anas with some weakness in the chain or narration] He also relates: Abu Ayyub (Allah be pleased with him) said: “Your actions are presented to the deceased. If they see good they are happy and delighted and they say this if from Your immense favor upon your servant so complete it. If they see evil they say,” Our Lord reject it!”. [Ibn Mubarak: az-Zuhd with a sound chain, Ibn Ibi Dunya: al-Munamat] He relates from an-Nʿumān bin Basheer, who said: “I heard the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) say, “Fear Allah regarding your brothers from the inhabitants of the grave for certainly your actions are presented to them”.[al-Bayhaqi: Shuab al-Iman, Ibn Ibi Dunya: al-Munamat] These narrations are just some of what Imam Suyuti (Allah have mercy on him) has related in his book. From this we can understand that our actions are seen by our loved ones after death and they are pleased by our good actions and repudiate our foul actions.
@harriskhan7671
@harriskhan7671 6 жыл бұрын
just worship allah directly DIRECTLY without ANY MIDDELMAN ALLAH can hear and see you without any help from the creation [middelman]
@mohammedshahrukhkhan8524
@mohammedshahrukhkhan8524 6 жыл бұрын
harris khan Indeed then why he sent prophets to send the message of Tauheed??
@GFGProductionsable
@GFGProductionsable 6 жыл бұрын
khan Sahab as a mercy upon mankind. To guide them. Dont compare Ali and the prophets. Ali (RA) is a Muslim like you and me, but hes of the best of muslims
@photon6100
@photon6100 6 жыл бұрын
Religion is the middleman and ultimately flawed. I revere no man. each person is given a brain and being and individuality so as to use these things, not to be sheep following manmade religions.
@rk2770
@rk2770 6 жыл бұрын
harris khan agree 100%
@rk2770
@rk2770 6 жыл бұрын
Allah is all seeing all hearing the greatest from all creation ..if u go to court u need a wakeel to explain the case to the judge bcos he has no idea of what case hes gonna deal wirh..but allah has knowledge of every case so he dont need no wakeel to explain to him ...lol just giving an example
@haha-ov2wl
@haha-ov2wl 6 жыл бұрын
Salaam. The hadith mentioned by the shia backfires at him: tirmidi chapter 118 `Uthman bin Hunaif narrated that a blind man came to the Prophet (ﷺ) and said: “Supplicate to Allah to heal me.” He (ﷺ) said: “If you wish I will supplicate for you, and if you wish, you can be patient, for that is better for you.” He said: “Then supplicate to Him.” He said: “So he ordered him to perform Wudu’ and to make his Wudu’ complete, and to supplicate with this supplication: ‘O Allah, I ask You and turn towards You by Your Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ), the Prophet of Mercy. Indeed, I have turned to my Lord, by means of You, concerning this need of mine, so that it can be resolved, so O Allah so accept his intercession for me (Allāhumma innī as’aluka wa atawajjahu ilaika binabiyyka Muḥammadin nabi-ir-raḥmati, innī tawajjahtu bika ila rabbī fī ḥājatī hādhihī lituqḍā lī, Allāhumma fashaffi`hu fīyya).’” حَدَّثَنَا مَحْمُودُ بْنُ غَيْلاَنَ، حَدَّثَنَا عُثْمَانُ بْنُ عُمَرَ، حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ، عَنْ أَبِي جَعْفَرٍ، عَنْ عُمَارَةَ بْنِ خُزَيْمَةَ بْنِ ثَابِتٍ، عَنْ عُثْمَانَ بْنِ حُنَيْفٍ، أَنَّ رَجُلاً، ضَرِيرَ الْبَصَرِ أَتَى النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ ادْعُ اللَّهَ أَنْ يُعَافِيَنِي ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏"‏ إِنْ شِئْتَ دَعَوْتُ وَإِنْ شِئْتَ صَبَرْتَ فَهُوَ خَيْرٌ لَكَ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ فَادْعُهُ ‏.‏ قَالَ فَأَمَرَهُ أَنْ يَتَوَضَّأَ فَيُحْسِنَ وُضُوءَهُ وَيَدْعُوَ بِهَذَا الدُّعَاءِ ‏"‏ اللَّهُمَّ إِنِّي أَسْأَلُكَ وَأَتَوَجَّهُ إِلَيْكَ بِنَبِيِّكَ مُحَمَّدٍ نَبِيِّ الرَّحْمَةِ إِنِّي تَوَجَّهْتُ بِكَ إِلَى رَبِّي فِي حَاجَتِي هَذِهِ لِتُقْضَى لِي اللَّهُمَّ فَشَفِّعْهُ فِيَّ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ هَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ صَحِيحٌ غَرِيبٌ لاَ نَعْرِفُهُ إِلاَّ مِنْ هَذَا الْوَجْهِ مِنْ حَدِيثِ أَبِي جَعْفَرٍ وَهُوَ غَيْرُ الْخَطْمِيِّ وَعُثْمَانُ بْنُ حُنَيْفٍ هُوَ أَخُو سَهْلِ بْنِ حُنَيْفٍ ‏.‏ Grade : Sahih (Darussalam) Reference : Jami` at-Tirmidhi 3578 In-book reference : Book 48, Hadith 209 English translation : Vol. 6, Book 46, Hadith 357
@sarinakarim2513
@sarinakarim2513 6 жыл бұрын
And this was only as the Prophet (ﷺ) was alive, this hadith today cannot be used can it, to make du'a because the argument of some Sunnis and Shi'as that they still can make du'a like this
@Alphaa254
@Alphaa254 6 жыл бұрын
Bro Abdul hamid sounds and looks very afghan
@betruthful6794
@betruthful6794 3 жыл бұрын
I think he’s Iranian, I heard somewhere lol
@Alphaa254
@Alphaa254 2 жыл бұрын
@@betruthful6794 yeh he is
@abdulrahman7183
@abdulrahman7183 2 жыл бұрын
@@betruthful6794 yeah is an ex Shia Masha Allah
@eesafrimpony6432
@eesafrimpony6432 6 жыл бұрын
These conversations are so painful.
@timremmont569
@timremmont569 6 жыл бұрын
sura Youssef vers 93????? the shirt of yousef healed nabi yaqoub so he was able to see again. is a shirt allive? and is it able to do this?
@bstlybengali
@bstlybengali 4 жыл бұрын
quran explicitly says to Call upon Allah ALONE. lets be reasonable
@loading...6722
@loading...6722 3 жыл бұрын
Why did Rasulullah say ‘Ya Ali’ then?
@bstlybengali
@bstlybengali 3 жыл бұрын
you rely on weak Hadith to determine that. He peace be upon him NEVER Called upon anyone other than Allah
@loading...6722
@loading...6722 3 жыл бұрын
bstlybengali Salaam Brother let me just give you the context. Allah is asking you to Worship him alone and not anyone else, Allah is not forbidding worshiping him through a person which is what we call a Dua. But when we say “Ya Ali” we are not calling upon Ali, we are asking Ali (as) to use his position in power and his status to ask Allah to help us (Basically do Dua for us). Because Ali (as) has a better relationship with Allah then yourself. If you’re bringing it into the context that I should Call upon Allah Alone and not through anyone else I’m afraid you are wrong. Because then why can we ask our friends to do dua for us? Is that not asking upon Allah alone in your context? You may use the point that the person should be alive and Ali (as) isn’t. But in the Quran it says “Do not say those who have died for the sake of Allah as dead, but they are rather alive receiving provision from their Lord” Did Ali (as) die for the sake of Allah, yes so according to the Quran he is still alive. Hope this explained it better for you Insha’allah
@R.MaxumOff
@R.MaxumOff 3 жыл бұрын
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@loading...6722
@loading...6722 3 жыл бұрын
@sheik saleem That’s Al-Bukhari which Shia don’t believe in, what does the Quran say about martyrs? “They are alive receiving provision from the Lord”. So if they are alive can we not call upon them? We are not directly calling upon them for help let me make that clear. We are calling upon them to ask Allah to help us. Simple terms asking Imam Ali (as) to do dua for us. If you say this is shirk isn’t asking a friend to do dua for you shirk?
@hussainhussaini2267
@hussainhussaini2267 3 жыл бұрын
The Sunni brother was emphasizing on the Ayat 18 of Sura Yunus throughout the video. The answer is in the rest of the Ayat: “Are you informing Allah of something He does not know in the heavens or the earth”. Means: Allah says ask them (what kind of intercessors are you referring to that Allah is not aware of). So, Allah does not says that intercessors are not accepted at all, but the intercessors taken by those people are not valid ones! Secondly as the Shia brother mentioned Allah is making them aware of their contradiction in the beginning of the Ayat: “They worship besides Allah others who can neither harm nor benefit them, and say, These are our intercessors with Allah”. Quran is making clear what you are doing is actually worship not making intercessors as you claim. Where what Shia does is actually making intercessors and not worship.
@yasserzain1521
@yasserzain1521 6 жыл бұрын
The BEST explanation against shia doctrine of believing Ali as intercession
@mrcheese4248
@mrcheese4248 6 жыл бұрын
funny the should be discussing shreck when there's a shreck lookalike back left towards the end! ;-)
@JustObserving7860
@JustObserving7860 6 жыл бұрын
This Saracen guy is a joke 😂
@nerthus4685
@nerthus4685 6 жыл бұрын
Why are you calling him a Saracen? What does that mean?
@JustObserving7860
@JustObserving7860 6 жыл бұрын
Nerthus because that’s what he calls himself lol!
@photon6100
@photon6100 6 жыл бұрын
I have news. Anyone who tries to ascribe game conditions to existence, setting up demarcation lines of what God supposedly wants, is a joke. It doesn't even matter which religion they are espousing.
@amjadhussain7262
@amjadhussain7262 6 жыл бұрын
What is he done which made u say this? In fact your a hater towards all those who’s belief differ from yours to be honest and what’s this 😂 for in a serious religious discussions.. ask your self who the joker is
@TheCinderellaman10
@TheCinderellaman10 3 жыл бұрын
@@nerthus4685 Saracen was the name of Salauddin army
@blackhawk0071292
@blackhawk0071292 5 жыл бұрын
Great efforts.
@khaledelmajzoub8860
@khaledelmajzoub8860 5 жыл бұрын
"Indeed, those you [polytheists] call upon besides Allah are servants like you. So call upon them and let them respond to you, if you should be truthful." 7::194
@maryanmohamed3966
@maryanmohamed3966 6 жыл бұрын
yaa Allah yaa Allah yaa Allah
@alfaman4113
@alfaman4113 4 жыл бұрын
In all fairness the short guy was more convincing in his argument. The guy with the skull cap was not able to support his argument
@SajjadAli-yk3no
@SajjadAli-yk3no 5 жыл бұрын
Ya Ali madad ... Zain u r rock.... Allah is with u and ahlibait too.. discuss and stand infront of him like a LION
@roguejester1356
@roguejester1356 6 жыл бұрын
Love it....helps me sleep. Slap the checkerboard with the micra phone. ...little guy is good and nobody's fool.
@sabdo321
@sabdo321 6 жыл бұрын
Praise be to Allaah. Imam Ahmad and others narrated with a saheeh isnaad from ‘Uthmaan ibn Haneef that a blind man came to the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and said: Pray to Allah to heal me. The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “If you wish, I shall pray for you; and if you wish, I shall delay that for you and that will be better for you.” [According to another report, he said: “… Or if you wish, you can be patient and that will be better for you.”] He said: Pray for me (now). So he instructed him to do wudoo’ and do it well, then to pray two rak‘ahs and say this du‘aa’ (supplication): “O Allah, I ask You and I turn to You by virtue of Your Prophet Muhammad, the Prophet of mercy. O Muhammad, I turn by virtue of you to my Lord concerning this need of mine, that it might be met for me. O Allah, accept his intercession concerning me and accept my intercession concerning him.” So the man did that and he was healed. Some people are confused by this hadeeth and think that it constitutes evidence for some innovated types of tawassul (seeking to draw close to Allah), but that is not the case. This misinterpretation of this hadeeth has been answered by many of the scholars, who explained that it does not constitute evidence for any of those who believe in innovated kinds of tawassul, whether that is by virtue of the Prophet’s person or by virtue of his status, let alone tawassul by virtue of the dead and calling upon them instead of Allah. One of the best precise and academic responses concerning this issue is that which was written by the great scholar Shaykh Muhammad Naasir ad-Deen al-Albaani in his book at-Tawassul Anwaa‘uhu wa Ahkaamuhu(available in English under the title Tawassul: Its Types and Its Rulings). Among the comments that he made on this hadeeth is the following: As for us, we believe that this hadeeth does not constitute evidence for them to support seeking to draw closer to Allah (tawassul) by virtue of the Prophet’s person; rather it constitutes further evidence for the third type of lawful tawassul - which is tawassul through the du‘aa’ (supplication) of a righteous man - because the tawassul of the blind man was only by means of the du‘aa’ of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) (and not by virtue of his person). The evidence for what we say is to be found in the hadeeth itself, in abundance. The most important points are as follows: 1. The blind man only came to the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) to ask him to pray for him; that was when he said: Pray to Allah to heal me. This is seeking to draw closer to Allah (tawassul) by virtue of his du‘aa’, because he knew that the du‘aa’ of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) was more likely to be accepted by Allah, unlike the du‘aa’ of anyone else. If the blind man’s intention was to draw close to Allah by virtue of the Prophet’s person or his status, there would have been no need for him to come to the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and ask him to offer du‘aa’ for him; rather he could have stayed at home and called upon his Lord by saying, for example: O Allah, I ask You by virtue of Your Prophet and His status before You to heal me and give me my sight. But he did not do that. 2. The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) promised to offer supplication (du‘aa’) for him whilst advising him of that which would be better for him, which is when he said: “If you wish, I shall pray for you; and if you wish, you can be patient and that will be better for you.” 3. The blind man insisted that he offer supplication for him, as he said: Pray for me (now). This implies that the Messenger (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) did offer supplication for him, because he (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) was the best one in fulfilling promises, and he had promised him that he would offer supplication for him if he wanted, as stated above. So there is no doubt that he (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) offered supplication for him. Thus what the blind man wanted was done. After that, the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) turned towards the blind man out of compassion towards him and out of keenness that Allah answer his supplications for this man. So he turned to him and advised him of the second type of lawful tawassul, which is tawassul by virtue of righteous deeds, so as to combine all kinds of good and righteous deeds (to ensure that his need would be met). So he instructed him to do wudoo’ and to pray two rak‘ahs, then to offer supplication for himself. These are all acts of obedience towards Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, that came before the supplication of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) for him, and these are included in the words of the verse in which Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Seek the means of approach to Him” [al-Maa’idah 5:35], as stated above. Based on this, the entire incident revolves around the supplication (du‘aa’) - as is clear - and there is no mention at all of what they claim. 4. In the supplication that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) taught him it says: “O Allah, accept his intercession concerning me.” It is impossible to interpret this as referring to tawassul by virtue of the person or status of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), because what is meant is: O Allah, accept his (the Prophet’s) intercession for me; in other words, Accept his supplication for my vision to be restored to me. The Arabic word shafaa‘ah (translated here as intercession) means supplication. It says in Lisaan al-‘Arab (8/184): Shafaa‘ah (intercession) is the words of the shafee‘ (intercessor) to the king asking him to meet the need of someone else, or the one who asks for something for someone else and intercedes for him to get what he is seeking… End quote. Thus it is proven that the tawassul of the blind man was only by virtue of the du‘aa’ of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), not by virtue of his person. 5. Among the things that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) taught the blind man to say was: “and accept my intercession concerning him”. What is meant is: accept my intercession, that is my supplication, that his intercession, that is his supplication that my sight be restored, be accepted. This is the only way in which this sentence can be interpreted; there is no other way of interpreting it. Hence you see those among later generations who hold different views ignoring this last phrase and not referring to it at all, because it utterly demolishes their interpretation of the hadeeth. 6. This hadeeth is cited by the scholars as being one of the miracles of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and one of his supplications that were answered, and an example of what Allah manifested through the blessing of his supplication of extraordinary events and healing from sickness. By virtue of the Prophet’s supplication for this blind man, Allah restored his sight. Hence the scholars of hadeeth, such as al-Bayhaqi and others, narrated it among the signs of Prophethood (dalaa’il an-nubuwwah). This indicates that the reason for the healing of the blind man was the supplication of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). If the reason for the healing of the blind man was that he sought tawassul by virtue of the Prophet’s status, as it was understood by many later scholars, that would imply that this healing should also have happened for other blind people who sought tawassul by virtue of his status and sometimes added to it the status of all the Prophets and Messengers, and all the close friends of Allah, the martyrs and the righteous, and the status of anyone who has status with Allah among the angels, mankind and the jinn! But we do not know, and we do not think that anyone knows, of any such incident that was fulfilled throughout the many centuries from the death of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) until the present day. From this explanation it becomes clear that what is meant by the words of the blind man in his du‘aa’, “O Allah, I ask You and I seek to draw close to You by virtue of Your Prophet Muhammad”, is: I seek to draw close to You by virtue of the supplication of Your Prophet. The text of the hadeeth does not mention the supplication, but it is implied. This is something that occurs commonly in Arabic, as in the verse in which Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And ask (the people of) the town where we have been, and the caravan in which we returned, and indeed we are telling the truth” [Yoosuf 12:82]; in the original text the word “people” is not mentioned but it is implied.
@sabdo321
@sabdo321 6 жыл бұрын
However, I would say: Even if we assume that the blind man did seek to draw close to Allah by virtue of the Prophet’s person, that would be a ruling that applied only to him (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and not to any other Prophet or righteous person, and applying it to them too is something that would not be acceptable to sound reasoning, because the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) is their leader and the best of them all. It is possible that this is something that Allah bestowed exclusively upon him and not them, like many other qualities that were given only to the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), according to saheeh reports. When it comes to that which was given exclusively to him, there is no room for applying it to others by analogy. If anyone thinks that the tawassul of the blind man was by virtue of the Prophet’s person, then he has to apply it to him only and not to anyone else. This view was narrated from Imam Ahmad and Shaykh al-‘Izz ibn ‘Abd as-Salaam (may Allah have mercy on them) and it is the only conclusion that can be reached by fair-minded academic research. And Allah is the One Who guides to what is correct.
@alhomsiyyah
@alhomsiyyah 6 жыл бұрын
Jazak Allah khair.
@haqqhaqq2716
@haqqhaqq2716 6 жыл бұрын
LEARN THE TRUTH why-sunnis-convert-to-shia.com/
@sabdo321
@sabdo321 6 жыл бұрын
ahmet03 loool is that all u could say!! payhetic even for a shia 😂😂
@ConsiderThis12
@ConsiderThis12 6 жыл бұрын
Sab Do My question to you akhi is this. We all accept that the Prophets intercession can be sought whilst he was alive. No problems with this (as long as he is not worshipped in the process). So where did the condition of him being alive come from? The reason I ask is cos the aya of the Quran about the pagans worshipping other idols and claiming them to be intercessors is clear shirk. I don't think that can be applied to the wasila of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم or the righteous because the Muslims don't worship them as intention is a key factor in Actions of worship (ibadaat). Also if somebody went to vishnu in this life and sought help then that is shirk. I'm sure we are all agreed. Surely, if we seek vishnus help on day of judgement will still be shirk. Whatever is shirk now will remain shirk then. However we know that all of us will seek the intercession of the Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم on the day of judgement. So according to the salafi doctrine, it seems you could seek his help before death, and on the final day but you have claimed it's not shirk for this short while. That doesn't make sense to me. Let's keep this civilised akh. We are talking about our master muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم.
@boejiden.1445
@boejiden.1445 5 жыл бұрын
Twassul is different from Istigathah . Just remember that Istigathah is different from dua. Just remember that. Dua is ebadat and Only for Allah. Istigathah is not necessarily an ebadat and CANNOT be confused with dua pls. It's possible but not even fardh/Waajib so no one is sinful in doing it UNLESSSS his Aqeeda is corrupt and doesn't differentiate Istigathah with dua. God help him
@hornokplease8874
@hornokplease8874 6 жыл бұрын
Subhanallah,brother zain presented his argument very intellectually,and he held onto Quran.Brother ismail was struggling to respond to his arguments,and was a bit confused about his own evidence which he provided to prove his position
@Sweety-ut8zw
@Sweety-ut8zw 6 жыл бұрын
sultan mirza doesnt make zain correct.
@abdullahiahmed3425
@abdullahiahmed3425 6 жыл бұрын
Surah 39,3 and those who take protectors other than Allah say we only serve them to bring us nearer to Allah
@alichahat6816
@alichahat6816 6 жыл бұрын
Shia doing a good job, wahabi gone back foot,no answer at all
@Murtybey
@Murtybey 6 жыл бұрын
"We dont apply logic to a lot of things" LOOOOOL says it all really.
@LevelUpMyself
@LevelUpMyself 3 жыл бұрын
Because some things cant be captured by the human mind.
@Murtybey
@Murtybey 3 жыл бұрын
@@LevelUpMyself No, you apply logic and come to the conclusion that very specific things transcend our logic. But you would be able to explain why. For example, Allah's essence being beyond our comprehension is a logical conclusion despite being beyond our logical scope. Where logic was being omitted here, is not one of those times. The salafi made a fool of himself.
@maxrossful
@maxrossful 6 жыл бұрын
Abdul hameed is a good brother.i understand he wants to keep his faith clean.he wants truth .and it only. And i am a follower of ahlu baith.for me they are my leaders.in deen knowledge .
@TheTheman45
@TheTheman45 6 жыл бұрын
QURAN : 35-22 : And not equal are the living and the dead. Indeed, Allah causes to hear whom He wills, but you cannot make hear those in the graves.
@MostWantedOG
@MostWantedOG 6 жыл бұрын
2:255 Allah-there is no god except Him-is the Living One, the All-sustainer. Neither drowsiness befalls Him nor sleep. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that may intercede with Him except with His permission? He knows what is before them and what is behind them, and they do not comprehend anything of His knowledge except what He wishes. His seat embraces the heavens and the earth and He is not wearied by their preservation, and He is the All-exalted, the All-supreme. Notice the sentence "Who is it that may intercede with Him except with His permission?"... Allah (swt) in His mercy and wisdom allows for the intercession.. however the only intercession I know of is that of the Prophet Muhammad (saw) and the only intercession anyone should look for is that of the Prophet Muhammad (saw) for his (from what I know) is permitted.. To address the hadith of the blind man.. the blind man was looking for the dua of the Prophet (saw), which Prophet Muhammad (saw) promised to do and did do (as he (saw) keeps his promises) - this dua is asking the favour and mercy of Allah (saw).. now after that the Prophet (saw) instructs the man to go and further ask the favour and mercy of Allah (swt) and when doing so also ask Allah (swt) to accept the dua of Prophet Muhammad (saw).. this adds further good deeds to the initial dua.. Lastly Prophet Muhammad (saw) was alive at the time.. when the dua was given to the person the Prophet (saw) was present and had already fulfilled his request by doing a dua for the blind man.. and lastly it is in the ability of Prophet Muhammad (saw) to intercede.. For the life of me I dont understand how people justify making dua to the dead when the Ever Living, All Hearing, Most Merciful and All Able Allah (saw) has the doors of His mercy open..
@abraham1124
@abraham1124 5 жыл бұрын
Im Orthodox Christian, i enjoyed watching this debate. The Shia and the Sunni converse in a respectfull way, also the third wheel former Salafi seems very knowledgeful and have humor!
@dawudyelton1392
@dawudyelton1392 6 жыл бұрын
at 11:24 when he was saying of course u may not mean to worship them; but i remember the hadith(a hadith) about shirk saying it is more hidden than a black beetle(or bug), on a black stone, in the middle of the desert on a moonless night; i took from it to be very careful, that we could not mean to but make mistakes; we are only human and make errs; may Allah forgive us our sins knowingly and unknowingly...ameen, great debates and discussion
@paulmalik2270
@paulmalik2270 6 жыл бұрын
Shia and Sufi tag team.... surprise surprise
@kezyay7830
@kezyay7830 5 жыл бұрын
For the shia blade runner, which salafi sunni scholars was he reffering the references from?
@somalismartchannel
@somalismartchannel 6 жыл бұрын
where is this discussion happen, i dont know where is it
@knowtawheedonegod6333
@knowtawheedonegod6333 6 жыл бұрын
Br9ther in blue shirt please stop interfering in every video you really ruin it .with no knowledge May Allah guide you
@AhmadRaza-qo6vc
@AhmadRaza-qo6vc 6 жыл бұрын
Know Tawheed Onegod He knows more than you
@knowtawheedonegod6333
@knowtawheedonegod6333 6 жыл бұрын
Ahmad Raza .May be but no point not understanding the ahadith I rather know less authentic than load myself with fabricated ahadith. May Allah help and guide us .any way I was hoping he reads my comment which is why I commented didn't mean for it to be gheeba. May Allah forgive me and him and you 😊
@asifiqbal1425
@asifiqbal1425 4 жыл бұрын
He is Shia I think
@saeedpatel6634
@saeedpatel6634 4 жыл бұрын
The blue shirt guy also shia and he is with him they wants to confuse him
@kalijasin
@kalijasin 6 жыл бұрын
No different than the Christians who pray to prophet Isa.
@alexiboat2009
@alexiboat2009 5 жыл бұрын
The only Prophet without sin
@sr-de5nz
@sr-de5nz 5 жыл бұрын
Jason C... Paganism confirmed...
@whysoupset9286
@whysoupset9286 2 жыл бұрын
Shias are pegans they will be surprised when allah doesnt accept their prayers due to shirk
@Saracen786
@Saracen786 6 жыл бұрын
Many comments asking what I believe am I Sunni or Shia? I organised a talk (link below) about Imam Ali (as) that will help you understand my thought and why I believe what I do. Hopefully both real Sunnis and Shias will appreciate it. THE HARD HITTING Q&A IS OUT! The Secrets of Seydina Ali (as) by Shaykh Atabek Shukurov Minutes 1.00-4.30- Intro why I chose the topic about Maula Ali (AS) 4.30- 6.44- Introducing Shaykh Atabek 7.04- 10.55- Promotion of new Muslim restaurant Kitchen 222 in Palmers green 11.15- Q&A begins 12.15- The greatest battle of Seydina Ali (AS)? 13.10- Why are there so few Hadith related from Seydina Ali (AS)? 17.12- Where is the lost knowledge of Seydina Ali (AS)? 20.12- Lost book of Imam Ali (AS) 21.50- Group think mentality 24.15- Seydina Ali (AS) advice on finding the truth 24.45- The mercy of Seydina Ali (AS) how could he burn apostates? 25.27- Ikrimah the Khawarij and attribution of false Hadith to Ibn Abbas and Seydina Ali (AS). 26.25- Why Imam Bukhari (ra) narrated Hadith in his collections from Ikrimah 27.30- Do we need to believe everything in Bukhari? 28.25- Imam Ali (AS) final words of mercy 29.45- Camp of Muawaiya full of loyalty and his camp full of munafiqun? 31.20- Was Zayd ibn Ali (Ra) the teacher of Imam Abu Hanifa (Ra)? 32.20- Is there a link between Imam Ali (AS) and Abu Hanifa (Ra)? kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJewpmiBr56Miac
@JAFAR4008
@JAFAR4008 6 жыл бұрын
Intercession / Shafaat Sura: 2 - al-Baqara (The Cow) Ayat: 255 اللَّهُ لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ الْحَيُّ الْقَيُّومُ ۚ لَا تَأْخُذُهُ سِنَةٌ وَلَا نَوْمٌ ۚ لَهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ ۗ مَنْ ذَا الَّذِي يَشْفَعُ عِنْدَهُ إِلَّا بِإِذْنِهِ ۚ يَعْلَمُ مَا بَيْنَ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَمَا خَلْفَهُمْ ۖ وَلَا يُحِيطُونَ بِشَيْءٍ مِنْ عِلْمِهِ إِلَّا بِمَا شَاءَ ۚ وَسِعَ كُرْسِيُّهُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ ۖ وَلَا يَئُودُهُ حِفْظُهُمَا ۚ وَهُوَ الْعَلِيُّ الْعَظِيمُ (255 اللہ جس کے علاوہ کوئی خدا نہیں ہے زندہ بھی ہے اوراسی سے کِل کائنات قائم ہے اسے نہ نیند آتی ہے نہ اُونگھ آسمانوں اور زمین میں جو کچھ بھی ہے سب اسی کا ہے. کون ہے جو اس کی بارگاہ میں اس کی اجازت کے بغیر سفارش کرسکے. وہ جو کچھ ان کے سامنے ہے اور جو پبُ پشت ہے سب کوجانتا ہے اور یہ اس کے علم کے ایک حّصہ کا بھی احاطہ نہیں کرسکتے مگر وہ جس قدر چاہے. اس کی کرس علم و اقتدار زمین و آسمان سے وسیع تر ہے اور اسے ا ن کے تحفظ میں کوئی تکلیف بھی نہیں ہوتی وہ عالی مرتبہ بھی ہے اور صاحبِ عظمت بھی [YOUSAF ALI] Allah! There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory). Sura: 10 - Yunus (Jonas) Ayat: 3 إِنَّ رَبَّكُمُ اللَّهُ الَّذِي خَلَقَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ فِي سِتَّةِ أَيَّامٍ ثُمَّ اسْتَوَىٰ عَلَى الْعَرْشِ ۖ يُدَبِّرُ الْأَمْرَ ۖ مَا مِنْ شَفِيعٍ إِلَّا مِنْ بَعْدِ إِذْنِهِ ۚ ذَٰلِكُمُ اللَّهُ رَبُّكُمْ فَاعْبُدُوهُ ۚ أَفَلَا تَذَكَّرُونَ (3 بیشک تمہارا پروردگار وہ ہے جس نے زمین و آسمان کو چھ دنوں میں پیدا کیا ہے پھر اس کے بعد عرش پر اپنا اقتدار قائم کیاہے وہ تمام امور کی تدبیر کرنے والا ہے کوئی اس کی اجازت کے بغیر شفاعت کرنے والا نہیں ہے .وہی تمہارا پروردگار ہے اور اسی کی عبادت کرو کیا تمہیں ہوش نہیں آرہا ہے [YOUSAF ALI] Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority), regulating and governing all things. No intercessor (can plead with Him) except after His leave (hath been obtained). This is Allah your Lord; Him therefore serve ye: will ye not receive admonition? Sura: 19 - Maryam (Mary) Ayat: 87 لَا يَمْلِكُونَ الشَّفَاعَةَ إِلَّا مَنِ اتَّخَذَ عِنْدَ الرَّحْمَٰنِ عَهْدًا (87 اس وقت کوئی شفاعت کا صاحب هاختیار نہ ہوگا مگر وہ جس نے رحمان کی بارگاہ میں شفاعت کا عہد لے لیا ہے [YOUSAF ALI] None shall have the power of intercession, but such a one as has received permission (or promise) from (Allah) Most Gracious. Sura: 20 - Taa-haa (Taa-haa) Ayat: 109 يَوْمَئِذٍ لَا تَنْفَعُ الشَّفَاعَةُ إِلَّا مَنْ أَذِنَ لَهُ الرَّحْمَٰنُ وَرَضِيَ لَهُ قَوْلًا (109 اس دن کسی کی سفارش کام نہ آئے گی سوائے ان کے جنہیں خدا نے اجازت دے دی ہو اور وہ ان کی بات سے راضی ہو [YOUSAF ALI] On that Day shall no intercession avail except for those for whom permission has been granted by (Allah) Most Gracious and whose word is acceptable to Him. Sura: 34 - Saba (Sheba) Ayat: 23 وَلَا تَنْفَعُ الشَّفَاعَةُ عِنْدَهُ إِلَّا لِمَنْ أَذِنَ لَهُ ۚ حَتَّىٰ إِذَا فُزِّعَ عَنْ قُلُوبِهِمْ قَالُوا مَاذَا قَالَ رَبُّكُمْ ۖ قَالُوا الْحَقَّ ۖ وَهُوَ الْعَلِيُّ الْكَبِيرُ (23 اس کے یہاں کسی کی سفارش بھی کام آنے والی نہیں ہے مگر وہ جس کو وہ خود اجازت دیدے یہاں تک کہ جب ان کے دلوں کی ہیبت دور کردی جائے گی تو پوچھیں گے کہ تمہارے پروردگار نے کیا کہا ہے تو وہ جواب دیں گے کہ جو کچھ کہا ہے حق کہا ہے اور وہ بلند و بالا اور بزرگ و برتر ہے [YOUSAF ALI] "No intercession can avail in His Presence, except for those for whom He has granted permission. So far (is this the case) that, when terror is removed from their hearts (at the Day of Judgment, then) will they say, 'what is it that your Lord commanded?' they will say, 'That which is true and just; and He is the Most High Most Great'."
@omarrthaHanafi
@omarrthaHanafi 6 жыл бұрын
Tawasul through prophet is allowed according to Ahmad ibn Hanbal.
@Ali83833
@Ali83833 2 жыл бұрын
Ahmad Ibn Hanbal also affirms that Ali As is the successor as sell
@omarrthaHanafi
@omarrthaHanafi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ali83833 where reference please
@Ali83833
@Ali83833 2 жыл бұрын
@@omarrthaHanafi musnad of Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal Tahkik Ahmad Muhammad Shakir book 3 page 331 Hadith no 3062: the prophet says “your relationship to me is of Harun to Musa except you are not a prophet and it would not be right for me to die without appointing you as my successor”
@Ali83833
@Ali83833 2 жыл бұрын
@@omarrthaHanafi and that’s it, sunni Islam finished with one quote from the prophet through Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal
@omarrthaHanafi
@omarrthaHanafi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ali83833 the last part isn't in the musnad
@ahmadchehade5683
@ahmadchehade5683 3 жыл бұрын
Salafi got so shook he repeated himself the whole debate and never answered a question
@TragedyisInvisible
@TragedyisInvisible 5 жыл бұрын
He brings three conditions and can't tell why how and where he brings them from? But then asks the guy in blue shirt in the end to not use google while what google article said was so logical and easy to understand.
@weloveallah4780
@weloveallah4780 6 жыл бұрын
Among the things that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) taught the blind man to say was: “and accept my intercession concerning him”. What is meant is: accept my intercession, that is my supplication, that his intercession, that is his supplication that my sight be restored, be accepted. This is the only way in which this sentence can be interpreted; there is no other way of interpreting it. Hence you see those among later generations who hold different views ignoring this last phrase and not referring to it at all, because it utterly demolishes their interpretation of the hadeeth. 6. This hadeeth is cited by the scholars as being one of the miracles of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and one of his supplications that were answered, and an example of what Allah manifested through the blessing of his supplication of extraordinary events and healing from sickness. By virtue of the Prophet’s supplication for this blind man, Allah restored his sight. Hence the scholars of hadeeth, such as al-Bayhaqi and others, narrated it among the signs of Prophethood (dalaa’il an-nubuwwah). This indicates that the reason for the healing of the blind man was the supplication of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). If the reason for the healing of the blind man was that he sought tawassul by virtue of the Prophet’s status, as it was understood by many later scholars, that would imply that this healing should also have happened for other blind people who sought tawassul by virtue of his status and sometimes added to it the status of all the Prophets and Messengers, and all the close friends of Allah, the martyrs and the righteous, and the status of anyone who has status with Allah among the angels, mankind and the jinn! But we do not know, and we do not think that anyone knows, of any such incident that was fulfilled throughout the many centuries from the death of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) until the present day. From this explanation it becomes clear that what is meant by the words of the blind man in his du‘aa’, “O Allah, I ask You and I seek to draw close to You by virtue of Your Prophet Muhammad”, is: I seek to draw close to You by virtue of the supplication of Your Prophet. The text of the hadeeth does not mention the supplication, but it is implied. This is something that occurs commonly in Arabic, as in the verse in which Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And ask (the people of) the town where we have been, and the caravan in which we returned, and indeed we are telling the truth” [Yoosuf 12:82]; in the original text the word “people” is not mentioned but it is implied. However, I would say: Even if we assume that the blind man did seek to draw close to Allah by virtue of the Prophet’s person, that would be a ruling that applied only to him (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and not to any other Prophet or righteous person, and applying it to them too is something that would not be acceptable to sound reasoning, because the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) is their leader and the best of them all. It is possible that this is something that Allah bestowed exclusively upon him and not them, like many other qualities that were given only to the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), according to saheeh reports. When it comes to that which was given exclusively to him, there is no room for applying it to others by analogy. If anyone thinks that the tawassul of the blind man was by virtue of the Prophet’s person, then he has to apply it to him only and not to anyone else. This view was narrated from Imam Ahmad and Shaykh al-‘Izz ibn ‘Abd as-Salaam (may Allah have mercy on them) and it is the only conclusion that can be reached by fair-minded academic research. And Allah is the One Who guides to what is correct.
@seetheworld3839
@seetheworld3839 3 жыл бұрын
On the DAY OF JUDGMENT when the shias will ENTER JANNAH tell to Allah that u r also shia
@smahasani
@smahasani 5 жыл бұрын
16:25 ali dawah .
@Cricketmerajunoon
@Cricketmerajunoon 6 жыл бұрын
The whole debate was based on those three conditions and surprisingly he didn't had a clue where they came from.
@mrdamn9027
@mrdamn9027 6 жыл бұрын
We should have these kind of discussions to know clarify what is the problem between us . Believe in one God. It means your are Muslim that enough.
@razer0072073
@razer0072073 6 жыл бұрын
Guy in blue shirt using taqqiah?
@JustObserving7860
@JustObserving7860 6 жыл бұрын
Sufi Shia hybrid 😂
@Mr.Jasaw13
@Mr.Jasaw13 6 жыл бұрын
ax1237 real suffies dont call themselves sufies ...
@JustObserving7860
@JustObserving7860 6 жыл бұрын
Mr.Jasaw there is no such thing as a real ‘sufi’ lol! There wasn’t one during the time of the prophet not in the times of the sahahba. They are an innovated sect which is mainly based on philosophy. May Allah guide them or break their backs!
@macaloowify
@macaloowify 6 жыл бұрын
ax1237 lool. What are you? Wahabi?
@desiangraiz6497
@desiangraiz6497 6 жыл бұрын
show me wahabis from Quran and sunnah
@moussameman2221
@moussameman2221 4 жыл бұрын
Call upon only ALLAH alone!!!
@kaptaan_original
@kaptaan_original 3 жыл бұрын
sura 4 verse 64 is what the blade runner quoted to show people can ask mohamed to intercede on their behalf. (4:64) (And tell them that) We never sent a Messenger but that he should be obeyed by the leave of Allah. If whenever they wronged themselves they had come to you praying to Allah for forgiveness, and had the Messenger prayed for their forgiveness, they would indeed have found Allah All-Forgiving, All-Compassionate.
@s.k5912
@s.k5912 6 жыл бұрын
Below are hadith from Salafis wahabis own books that they are contradicting today. followed by versus from the Quaran Hafidhh Ibn Taymiyya writes: Some people came to the grave of our Prophet, (May Allah bless him and grant him peace), and requested something, and their needs were fulfilled. In the like manner, the pious people can also fulfill the needs of people - and we do not deny this [Iqtida as Sirat al-Mustaqim, - page 373, Hafidhh Ibn Taymiyya] Hafidhh Ibn-e-Taymiyya writes that: Ibn Musayab’s listening of the adhan from the Prophet’s grave or the returning of salaam from the graves of the Awliya, is haqq and we believe in it. [Iqtida as Sirat al-Mustaqim, page 373] Hafidhh Ibn al Qayyim writes: After dying, the Ruh (Spirit) can do those things that it cannot do when the person is alive in the dunya, (world) just as one or two Ruhs defeated a large army. Many companions relate that they saw the Messenger of Allah, (May Allah bless him and grant him peace), Abu Bakr and ‘Umar, May Allah be well pleased with them, in their dreams at night fighting with them against the kuffar and winning the battle. Then it became a reality: on the following day a small army of Muslims defeated an army of many, many kafirs. [Kitab ar-Ruh, chapter 15, Hafidhh Ibn al Qayyim] Hafidhh ibn Taymiyya says that: In the time of a drought, a person came to our Prophet’s grave and complained about the drought. He then saw our Prophet, (May Allah bless him and grant him peace), who said go to ‘Umar and tell him to perform the Salaah of Istisqah. There are numerous true narrations similar to this. [Iqtisa Sirat al Mustaqim, page 373, Also Imam Bukhari has mentioned about this in his book, Tarikh al Kabir, biography of Malik al dar] Hafidhh ibn Taymiyya and Qadi Shawkani quote the following hadith: ‘Abd Allah bin Mas’ud, may Allah be pleased with Him, reported that our Prophet, (May Allah bless him and grant him peace), stated: “If you ever find yourselves stranded alone in a desolate place or jungle, then say, ‘O servants of Allah! Help me, Allah have mercy on you.’” [Al-Kalim al-Tayyib, page 69, by Hafidhh ibn Taymiyya, and Qadi Shawkani in Tufhat ad-Dhakireen, page 130. Ibn Sunni, Imam Bazaar, Hafidhh al Hasamim and Imam Nawawi all quote this hadith also in their various books.] Hafidhh Ibn Taymiyya writes: A person came to the blessed grave of the Messenger of Allah, (May Allah bless him and grant him peace), and requested food from the Prophet and sat down. After a while a Hashmi [a member of the Prophet’s (May Allah bless him and grant him peace] family came to him. He had with him a tray of food, and said, “this food has been sent by the Prophet, (May Allah bless him and grant him peace), and with it he gave a message: eat it and leave from here because whoever loves us does not make this kind of desire”. [Iqtida as Sirat al Mustaqim, page 290 by Hafidhh Ibn Taymiyya] The help that is sought from the anbiya or awliya is within their capability. For example, it is permissible for one to request a deceased person to make a du’a, as it has already been proved that the deceased can make du’a. This means that asking help from another which is out of their capacity is not shirk. Hafidhh ibn al-Qayyim explained in his book Kitab al-Ruh. Hafidhh Ibn al Qayyim states: Many people saw Hafidhh Ibn Taymiyyah after his death in their dreams and asked him many difficult questions on issues of Fiqh Masaa’il and he replied to all their questions. Only those people can reject this who are ignorant of the status of the spirits (Arwah) [Kitab-ar-Ruh, end of chapter 3., Hafidhh Ibn al-Qayyim] From the Quran And do not say about those who are killed in the way of Allah, "They are dead." Rather, they are alive, but you perceive [it] not. [2:154] Verily, your Walee (Protector or Helper) is Allah, His Messenger, and the believers, - those who perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and give Zakat, and they bow down (submit themselves with obedience to Allah in prayer). [Quran - Al Maeeda 5:55] O ye who believe! Be mindful of your duty to God, and seek the way of approach unto Him [al-wasilah] (5:35) Those unto whom they cry seek the way of approach [al-wasilah] to their Lord, which of them shall be the nearest; they hope for His mercy and they fear His doom. Lo! the doom of thy Lord is to be shunned (17:57). When it is said to the hypocrites, come let the Prophet ﷺ intercede on your behalf, then they will turn their heads away in pride' (Quran, Al Munafiqoon - 63:5) This should be enough for you and for me May Allah forgive me
@TheCinderellaman10
@TheCinderellaman10 3 жыл бұрын
Are these hadith authentic?
@313asm
@313asm 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCinderellaman10 Either agree with Ibn Taymiyya or with Sunnis. Either way isthigasa is allowed in Islam.
@TheCinderellaman10
@TheCinderellaman10 3 жыл бұрын
@@313asm I believe and follow monotheism and in doing so I only call on Allah SWA for anything and everything I desire, need and want. The quran specifies this, so if it reported in authentic hadith that they called on others then Allah SWA its upon them, I dont have the need to and I dont have to follow either one, I follow the Haqq only
@TheCinderellaman10
@TheCinderellaman10 3 жыл бұрын
@@313asm in your opinion only
@TheCinderellaman10
@TheCinderellaman10 3 жыл бұрын
@Midship's party not a fatwa upon anyone, i ask Allah SWA for everything i need, desire, if others call upon others then its is their choice, simple
@amirhussain1449
@amirhussain1449 6 жыл бұрын
The Shia is a good brother but he has to also read the Qur'an and understand the words properly
@c3realK1ll4h
@c3realK1ll4h 5 жыл бұрын
amir hussain hahaha, u idiot
@sharps8726
@sharps8726 3 жыл бұрын
Read Aytul Kursi. That's the problem with Muslims we don't read the Quran we just go on www. Prove the other side wrong .com
@whysoupset9286
@whysoupset9286 2 жыл бұрын
But still deluded lol
@murtazaalizadah5041
@murtazaalizadah5041 6 жыл бұрын
Asalam alaikum.IF U COULD ALL JUST REMEMBER ME IN UR PRAYERS.COZ I M REALLY GOING THROUGH ALOT RIGHT NOW.THANK U
@syedmahashah4490
@syedmahashah4490 3 жыл бұрын
Murtaza Alizadah hope you got thru whatever u we’re going thru brother ❤️Allah is with you he loves u
@abdullahfalah2060
@abdullahfalah2060 6 жыл бұрын
I like it when he says i stop eating chips 😋👍🏻
@realdeal332
@realdeal332 6 жыл бұрын
sarasen has no business there.
@shia-4-everibrahimbazzihus69
@shia-4-everibrahimbazzihus69 6 жыл бұрын
So what about a Imam (as) ajmaeen So I can make Dua for you and my other Muslim brothers but An Imams which are all shuhada and go read Hadith al kisa The prophet said reported by Abu thar al-ghafari that the prophet (pbuh&hf) said oh hussein (as) YoU Will Be MY Intercessor for my Umma there is another version from Aisha read them both sahih hadeeths brother we are permissible to do so according to the prophet Muhammad(pbuhaf)
@captainhd9741
@captainhd9741 3 жыл бұрын
So many people in the comments saying X, Y, Z but I am confident they wouldn’t have the courage to mention it in a debate where the person is there to actually reply and respond.
@nasirrizvi550
@nasirrizvi550 6 жыл бұрын
Game, set, match at 12:45. You can't have it both ways waseela is shirk sometimes and not other times. Which one is it?
@kingking-yb2in
@kingking-yb2in 6 жыл бұрын
Saracen should come to jesus because he knows all the games they play
@ajajjjaj9233
@ajajjjaj9233 6 жыл бұрын
king king no u need to come to Allah while Jesus worships Allah and jesus will come back and tell u that he Jesus is not God
@nadinfawaz6945
@nadinfawaz6945 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you to zain blade runner for always reminding me to eat and drink while watching his videos.
@90nadz
@90nadz 6 жыл бұрын
What does rubaiya mean? Thanks
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