How to Finish a Wood and Epoxy Table Like a Pro

[@josiecapps2555]

I play with the pieces of wood found on property. This is just with my pocket knife and left over sandpaper. Sometimes I cut the shape it wants to be. Then I cut and sand to a shape. When I’m pleased with it, I rub it and rub more, with no more than the oils in my skin, sometimes I’ve used hand lotion or oils. That helps sometimes. I love the feel of the wood. You definitely it take to a way different level. I do appreciate what you do tremendously. Love watching you🤩

[@nobody3692]

If your into the feel difference, Look up soap wood finish that uses bars of soap, its almost feels magical

[@theusconstitution1776]

YOU COULD NOT HAVE A BETTER SALESMAN/CRAFTSMAN TO BE YOUR REPRESENTATIVE! WHERE did you get these young men with so much knowledge?

[@BluePill88]

I believe this guy is a founder

[@alanmooney3120]

Just stumbled upon your page a few days ago. I simply cant stop watching. I've watched every episode 2 times now. Mindboggling how talented and creative your company is. LOVE your creations :)

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Wow thank you so much for watching everything (twice even) that means a lot. Thanks Alan!! :)

[@rumpple4skin976]

was wondering yesterday what was going on but glad to see ya this week. This is a great video on finishing and I believe being a great finisher is the key to wood working. Thank you Dylan great job and easy to follow. Keep em coming.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Since this video is long and shot in 4K processing and uploading was taking forever! Thanks so much for the kind words Tim!

[@rumpple4skin976]

@@BlackForestWoodCo its a great Video I think that its important to show the finishing process and like I said easy to follow

[@jayhardingham8231]

Do you need to wait a few weeks to let the Osmo cure before you apply the ceramic coating?

[@atasoy]

Hi there; I want to buy a Mirka Deros to sand my epoxy work. There are two options in front of me, which one I choose will give me a better performance and result. Mirka Deros orbit 5.0 or Mirka Deros orbit 2.5?

[@BlacktailStudio]

Good stuff Dylan! Headed out to try it on some sample pieces that just remembered I made like six months ago.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Let us know how it goes!!!

[@bradleyzellers3747]

You've both completely driven me to making these tables please keep it up thank you guys blackforest and blacktail you guys are the best amazing artists

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

@@bradleyzellers3747 Thank you Bradley!!

[@b4khmetiev]

Thanks a lot from Russia! Good luck! ;)

[@catinarose7930]

I watch so many education and review videos trying to put into place best practices and product. You guys are really the most informative. The information is explained so we'll. Keep it up!

[@shawnshomali6556]

Hi.do you water sand to 4000 or just dry sand?

[@CunninghamFurniture]

Great information! I'm learning alot from you guys and I'm happy that you supply all of these products. It's a good combination, keep it up! Thanks!

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thanks, Jesse, we're super glad you're learning from us! And yeah makes it easier for everyone to find the products mentioned cause they're all in one place!

[@ryanc8188]

I was doing a kitchen that was a full gloss, kept having issues with it gaining a terrible amount of static while sanding. Tack clothes wouldn't take it away so I ended up getting dryer sheets worked marvels. Tutorial videos are always nice. Thanks Guys

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thanks for watching Ryan!

[@johncotton866]

Outstanding video!!! Thanks for showing us the entire finishing process. As always. Great job!!! Keep up the good work!!!

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thanks John!!

[@pasquale2652]

Hey Dillon, this video is just what I needed to launch a new hobby. Thanks!! I'll keep watching your videos.

[@robweymouth9044]

Hi Guys great work! Can I suggest another vid? Sanding and finishing smaller parts-like table legs or chair parts? Covering stuff like finish sanding round overs/chamfers, Clamping methods, pre-finishing with Osmo? Thanks for your videos. Your content rocks!

[@TripleLRusticDesigns]

Absolutely incredible video. Really impressed with you guys

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thanks so much!!!! We really appreciate hearing that!

[@alesandr4699]

After 320, for the next cart, do you use wet or continue dry? And how much time did you spend for scratching? Thanks 🙏🏻

[@normseguin2240]

Hey guys - beautiful work and luv your vids. Been a fan of Osmo for a while now and use it on my cutting boards and now I'm curious about your ceramic coatings! I know that almost everything is food safe when properly cured and was wondering your thoughts about ceramic coats in relation to food safety.

[@MixingGBP]

Excellent work and teaching. Question: if I have an open grain wood like oak or walnut, how do I factor in grain filling (with aqua coat or something similar)?

[@paulbaucco1461]

Can I use that same finish on a table that I already finished with stain and polyurethane ??? Thanks and I am super impressed by your talents!!! Paul B

[@fixitmonkey8947]

Hi Dylan, gonna apply your ceramic coating on my epoxy coffee table today. So Excited !!

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Awesome! Let us know what you think!!

[@Felicity3115]

Just received my ceramics and used it. I am impressed!!

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Glad you like it! Thanks Felicity

[@bisarowood]

I been using Osmo for about a year now , pretty good results . I'm always most interested in seeing the difference in a table finished with Osmo and your ceramics stuff compared to say a traditional conversion varnish sprayed on . then after 6 month of use ...

[@Shaka_Vibe]

Interesting..... ceramic coatings have really become popular in the higher end car detailing world. Good stuff! Thanks for sharing,

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

You could actually use our product on a car as well, or on a fridge to prevent fingerprints, it's very multipurpose!

[@blackirishredneckb6383]

Great video. Picked up the platinum. Question… When sanding above the 1000, did you wet sand?

[@paulhecking8362]

Great video, How long do you wait after the last coat of Osmo before you can apply the ceramic coating?

[@jayanderson6222]

Absolutely LOVED this video. You guys do outstanding work and I love it!

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Glad you loved it Jay!! Thanks so much!!

[@jaderene]

This was extremely helpful and very informative! I'm going to use the products that you guys have on your website to refinish my dining room table!

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

So glad we could help Jade!!! Everything is linked in the description!

[@chrishebert3240]

Like your video you had and have a question about what you just did. Do you do this after your done with all your epoxy coats or do you put another coat of epoxy after you do what you just did?

[@jeffkeisling3558]

Hi, what sheen should I expect using your ceramic base and top coat on Walnut slab; two coats of Rubio. Thanks

[@bradsmith1046]

Great vid thanks! Could one apply a first coat of 1101 at 320 and then continue to 4000 grit to achieve the brighter finish while still improving the protective benefit from the penetration of the first osmo 1101 application?

[@bnelly1987]

Do you do this to both the top and the bottom of the piece or just the top? If just the top, what do you do to the bottom?

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

We do it to the top and sides! We skip the ceramic for the bottom!

[@koolkid1234ism]

What speed is your sander on when you're applying the osmo? I'm trying to figure out which buffer/polisher to buy, would it make sense to buy a variable speed polisher, then start buffing on a slow speed, working your way up to a fast speed?

[@olegmykhalenko1972]

Hi! Great tutorial, I learned a lot from it, thank you! One question though: Is there a reason why you use Osmo Polyx instead of TopOil, which is specifically designed for tabletops?

[@Joestacemazjojo]

I’m using both the extra thin and polyx for an epoxy slab bathroom vanity. I have one coat of each on but was wondering if you’ve ever added another coat of extra thin on top of the polyx? I’m so concerned with moisture issues with this piece being in a bathroom, just thinking the more I can close the pores throughout, the safer it may be? Always appreciate the videos guys.

[@chairman72]

When you commented that the Osmo needed to be fully cured before the ceramic, did you mean the 30 day "complete" cure or the 8 hour cure to touch? Also could you sand to 4K and then do multiple layers of the ceramic base coat to give you that durability that you really want on a dinning table? I understand there is a lot more work involved but if the added base coats of the ceramic brings up that durability I would think my clients would like that.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Just the 8 hours! You could do an extra coat or two of the base and top if you want but it won't make a huge difference!

[@1stdayoftherestofyourlives]

How much time between the first Osmo coats? It almost seemed like you came the second day to do it.

[@goodmemoriesproductions]

Thank you very much again for your video!!! It’s really appreciate. I’m now working on a translucide table with a miniature scene in it. Do I use this technics to for appreciate what I putted inside?? Thanks to regards!!

[@doughackett2843]

I love your videos, wondering why you pour epoxy all over slabs? When I tried this, the natural wood stained different that the epoxy coverd areas?? What did I do wrong?

[@Dotzek0n]

Seriously, good explanation man, thanks for this vid.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

No problem, glad it was helpful!

[@waynep7176]

Thanks for doing this one! Exactly what I was looking for. Will help my epoxy projects for sure!!

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Really glad you found this so helpful! Thanks for watching Wayne!

[@vimaxus]

At 17:46, after the osmo, how long did you wait? the full 30 day cure? just an overnight to get the dry feel? somewhere inbetween?

[@richmiller540]

Thanks for this tutorial. Is this still your same process now (October 2024)? Also is your ceramic topcoat available in the UK?

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Yes it is currently! And yes, we have a separate website specifically for Ceramics customers in the UK: blackforestceramics.com/

[@jackieflynn7731]

Thank you for the explaination. I love the right side of the board better.❤️

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Glad it was helpful!

[@bradmeintz7684]

Getting ready to order these products & finish a walnut table but before I do I would like to know if you are waiting the full 30 day cure time for the Osmo before applying the ceramic coating?

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

No, we just wait a few days!

[@jmoney4451]

What kind of “blue applicator pad” can you use to apply the BF ceramics? Thanks!!

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

blackforestwood.com/collections/black-forest-ceramics-1/products/applicator-microfibre-cloth-for-black-forest-ceramic-coatings?variant=39417333645355

[@anthonyladd3134]

Can I stain the wood before I apply the oil and other finishing stuff?

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Yup, that's the order you should go in if you're going to use a stain!

[@anthonyladd3134]

Thank you

[@amberlaremont5087]

Super great!! Answered a lot of questions I had. And the pad flying off made my day 😂 thanks guys! Subscribed!! 🥰

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Glad you found this helpful! And haha glad you got a laugh out of that!

[@Rejoice1631]

Aaaaw... Got to LOVE that Pup.!.!.!.! Charlie, my man.!.!.!.!

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Everyone loves Charlie!

[@anncarille6071]

Thanks for the video Dylan. I just finished my first table, a 10' x 4' Ash slab with an epoxy river. I was very dissappointed with my finish and was searching for somethning that would give me a nice sheen with clarity on the expoxy and a good hardness. I think this will do it. Question, the 30 day full cure is that for the Osmo or the ceramic?

[@Burakius]

Thanks for the tips Dylan. Love your channel! Great content and keep it up.

[@ssphreak82]

Instead of doing either the 320 or 4K grit does 600 or 800 grit prove to be a happy medium?

[@waelbuholigah4145]

Thanks Dylan, that was great video, my question, please, is, could I apply Odies Oil & Butter, instead of Osomo, and follow that with Epoxy Resin instead of Ceramic final step?

[@AlexKost-tq6bj]

How much time do you let pass between applying the osmo and wiping it down? Similarly, how much time between the paper towel wipe and the buffing? I found that the osmo gets pretty tacky/sticky after 10-15min and it feels somehow wrong trying to drag a paper towel across it? Thoughts?

[@albertshilton5336]

Thank you. Great explanation of how to use these products.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thank you Albert!!

[@mknight909]

What does it mean when you say you need to buff "for a long time"? "Or when you think you buffed enough, your half way there". I got these products based on your amazing work and am thinking that I might not be buffing enough. Any general guidance you can give would be great. Thanks

[@Ahogan11]

did you do any wet sanding?

[@albertshilton5336]

Hi, Great Vide. Thanks. Your wed site has a photo of Osmo 3043, but the discretion says 1101. How do I purchase one of each and how big is the can? Thanks, Al

[@fdlptruckie]

Is the whole piece finished like the top

[@michael.schuler]

I am using Rubio Monocoat rather than Osmo. Rubio recommends sanding only to 120 in order for the finish to bond to the wood fibers. Following practical tips from online experts, I have sanded instead to 150 after water-popping at 120. Do you recommend sanding to 320 when applying Black Forest over Rubio? If so, then is water-popping between each sanding grit a best or necessary practice? Thanks.

[@christinegillis5564]

Great video! Do you have a video on how to finish a bigger piece? You mention no more then 2’x2’ so how do you manage applying the ceramic equally across a 6 ft table?

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

You can see us apply it on a way bigger table here! kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2i4hnujm9CAiJY

[@fnordeon1013]

Informative and interesting, providing good info for everyone on Osmo and your finishing product. Good call providing a stability test by Charlie at the same time. Time efficiant for new clients evaluating your products 😂💕

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thank you!!

[@johndavids4780]

Is the finish technique different for an epoxy/end grain coffee table? I have a 24" x 36" maple burl end grain table in process. 1st Time doing this.

[@patricktcrowe]

I want to use a two step dye stain on figured woods in River tables. Will the epoxy penetrate into the wood and inhibit stain penetrating?

[@AndrewAyton]

Just awesome! Need to refinish two tables in the next few months and I will be following this process. One question: when doing a larger surface and you need to overlap your ceramic 2'x2' spots, do you just overlap slightly with no worries? Any tips?

[@magnumopusdesign9148]

Really good info! Does the Osmo amber over time as an epoxy would? Also, We do a lot of polished concrete surfaces, and have begun mixing with wood. Picture a concrete river rather than epoxy. Is the Osmo suitable for concrete? We typically go to 1500 grit if using an acrylic and beeswax finish, but have to stop at 400 grit max to get any severely thinned polyurethane to grab, then it does not hold well over time. Thanks!

[@PaulSmith-fg8sz]

If top needs repair "scratch" with just osmo you can sand area then reapply osmo. With ceramic does whole top need to be done, or just spot repair like you would bo with the osmo?

[@paulbrittain3925]

Great vid. Lots of helpful tips. Do you ever "water pop" wood?

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Not usually but it doesn’t hurt!

[@danhouck4148]

Pack with very useful information.

[@firestormentertainment6244]

Absolutly love these videos. This one was very helpfull. If i wouldn't have to pay like a lot for shipping to europe, i would definetly buy some products of your website. Im here since 6000 subscribers and still watching every video. Now you guys are close to 100k! Keep it up

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thanks so much for continuously watching our videos!

[@ethanhawk6970]

Hey guys. Always love what you are working on and really enjoy the tutorial videos. Just curious though, do you not need to raise the grain?

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

No we don’t find we need to but it definitely wouldn’t hurt!

[@ludovicdubois6449]

bonjour, Do you ship your products to France (ceramics, resin, etc.? merci

[@bigbob9702]

what do you do with the edges? they seem to throw off a lot of product.

[@KirkRoss]

Do you guys finish the bottoms of tables? I assume you might not do a graphene / ceramic coat on the bottom, but should think you'd need at least a furniture oil finish on the bottom and edges?

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Yes we put finish on the bottom and edges, we don't typically put ceramic on the bottom but we do put it on the edges

[@simonac688.]

one of your best tutotorials tks 👍

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks so much!

[@stefanobellini6464]

Hi guys, I ask you for a courtesy .. I would like to do this procedure on a table that I'm finishing building but I can't find the polix oil 3043. Could you indicate me a link to buy it?

[@mikemikey3867]

Does the ceramic dry with a matte, sating or glossy finish?

[@mbmurphy777]

Will the ceramic coat bond to Rubio?

[@srqlisa7881]

Could I use your ceramic product on a 2 year old resin counter-top? Learned a ton thanks Dylan. peace

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Yes! And thanks for watching Lisa!!!

[@ericwilson8971]

I really like the video. Do you use the sander with the white pad on the edges too?

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thanks Eric, yes we do!

[@elenabisca4685]

Can you apply the ceramic coating directly on a table having a flood coat?

[@jamesomania]

Thanks for the video. Quick question, if you’re applying some sort of UV protection oil, would you apply that after the Ceramic or before? The other question is can you still feel all the grain after the application?

[@bnelly1987]

Two questions. First, how much surface area will the 10ml ceramic bottle cover? Just trying to figure how much I would actually need for a project. Second, do these guys ever post discount codes for their website??

[@janbratton8004]

Great video but I need advise - after 1 coat of 1101 my table looked great. Then after the first coat of 3054 I guess I didn't buff enough because I can see marks in the finish (like subtle brush marks from the white pad). I really wanted a super smooth finish. Is there anything I can do to get the brush marks out? Now that it has dried, am I going to have to sand them out and start over? Thanks!

[@fufc1231]

Hey, does your finishing kit include everything in this video? Some stuff are reffered to as base/top coat so im not so sure before buying

[@martindekker8203]

Looks awesome. Question. I'm in Australia and Osmo don,t sell the "Polyx Oil - Clear 3043". What's a good Osmo alternative? Cheers

[@bigpat5819]

Thank You for the more detail videos. Why do you use Osmo oil that is not water proof instead of Odie's oil or Rubio Monocoat which are water proof and Rubio is very hard by itself.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Neither Odie’s oil or Rubio are waterproof. I would say Rubio and Osmo are quite similar with comparable durability. Odie’s oil is in a different class as it is more similar to a beeswax as it doesn’t dry hard and needs constant maintenance. We used to use Odie’s and it resulted in countless warranty callbacks after 6 months to a year. We recommend people to steer clear of Odie’s. Great for cutting boards but not at all a furniture finish.

[@stevenbiedrzycki7046]

A couple of questions. Are you water popping between grits? Are you using distilled water when you call for water (spritzing) instead of tap water, or is that over-thinking it? How many coats of which surface treatment are you applying to the edges and underside of the tabletop? What grit do you run the bottom to, especially with the epoxy? Would it be beneficial to get the epoxy up to the same grit on the underside as you do the top, or do you use different grit finishes underneath to reflect light differently from the top in the finished product? Do you recommend not listing these pieces before the 30 day cure time is complete if you have the space to store them?

[@dwightl5863]

Good questions. Sad he doesn't respond much to the comments.

[@peterlaughlin930]

One of your more informative videos thank you

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thanks Peter, hope you enjoyed!

[@cattac6]

Excellent vid. as usual. Very informative and a great finish achieved. Thanks.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thank you!!!

[@sabersaw5611]

Do you wait 30 days before applying the ceramic?

[@d0peeyez92]

Can you show us the amount of resin you use for small and big products and how to know how much to use

[@gustavotobon7042]

Hi Dylan, love your videos they are so informative. I have a question for your reusable round molds, do you sell just the round flexible barrier alone or maybe tell me where I can buy it. Thank you.

[@TheDougdeg1000]

Without nd with ceramic how much and often do they need with maintenance

[@mitchquist]

Great video! Do you do the edges the same way?

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Yes!

[@electricjoshaloo]

Nice tutorial..appreciate the tips. Quick question...can you just apply the ceramic coating to the epoxy without putting the osmo on the epoxy first, say just to use as an epoxy protector?

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thanks! Yeah you can, but putting it over Osmo just gives a nicer finish!

[@dorispeterson9059]

How many minutes buffing?

[@romanomantel7548]

Hi there, Any chance you could update us on how the scratch test went? How durable is the Osmo?

[@JessGSews]

A very sincere thank you for your detailed explanations!

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Glad you found them helpful!

[@jasonnoble2194]

Okay, so confused about the first coat and second. Dylan goes back and forth saying polyx then osmo....which is used for the second coat??? Polyx or osmo??

[@adelaiderichman7052]

What would you use for a island benchtop? What would I use for it to be food safe but durable

[@adamarras2668]

How long do you typically wait betwwen the last coat of osmo. And the first coat of the base coat of the ceramic product? Do you wait the 30 days until the osmo is fully cured? Or can it be applied sooner?