BlackMagic ATEM Mini Pro ISO Recording and OBS... AT THE SAME TIME!!

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The Video Content Factory

The Video Content Factory

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@JiruubGaming
@JiruubGaming 3 жыл бұрын
This is WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!!!! Yes!!!! Thank you for figuring this out!
@kccstar
@kccstar 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this also solves the problem of the stream rate and record rate being tied together. You can now record the highest quality you want to SSD, send the high signal over the stream bridge, and let OBS set the right streaming for distribution. 🤯
@terryleahy6954
@terryleahy6954 3 жыл бұрын
Add to it recording in camera and you have every flavor you want for post!
@alberto84rc
@alberto84rc Жыл бұрын
Anyway, in the PRO ISO, you'll get the same bitrate to the streaming AND the pgm recorded into the hard drive. BUT single cameras are recorded in full quality. So I suppose that if you just open the saved project in DaVinci, you can export it in full quality.
@JeffKuhn
@JeffKuhn Жыл бұрын
I’m was impressed at how he had two cameras on monitors and you can’t see them head on. This is magical all by itself 😅
@IvanBuyavets
@IvanBuyavets 6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for this video. All they have to do - put one more USB-C out. But now we need to buy more ATEM products to do what we want - get clean feed and our stream at the same time!
@TheSeanBampton
@TheSeanBampton 6 ай бұрын
or just buy an ATEM mini extreme.
@stowgood
@stowgood 3 жыл бұрын
The latency is quite noticeable. Now we have the atem mini extreme iso which actually does everything we want.
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it does, and it costs $1,295.00. Also nobody has actually used it yet but there are indeed TWO usb-c outputs on there. Fingers crossed you can record and stream at the same time.
@isthisaweirdname
@isthisaweirdname 2 жыл бұрын
So with the Atem Extreme Iso it is possible? I can't really find that answer online
@annebokma4637
@annebokma4637 Жыл бұрын
​@@isthisaweirdnamea long overdue...YES 😂
@ZaarsShed
@ZaarsShed 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very detailed walk through. If you still didn't dump you cash, you can go with ATEM Mini Pro *Extreme* ISO, which has TWO USB outputs so you can have one for recording and another for webca -> OBS. Btw price wise, ATEM Mini Pro ISO + Streaming Bridge + capture card is equivalent to the price of ATEM Mini Extreme ISO; but the latter has less cables and less latency :)
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory 3 жыл бұрын
Already purchased and in our hands! We love the Extreme Pro ISO and have been loving the Super Source Function
@ZaarsShed
@ZaarsShed 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheVideoContentFactory Do you plan to review it? I've originally got Mini ISO (not extreme) and stumbled upon single USB port issue. Heading back to the shop to exchange for the Extreme version.
@PartyCreate
@PartyCreate Жыл бұрын
Do you still need a capture card to send from the USB C on the Atem Mini Extreme ISO to a PC using OBS?
@ZaarsShed
@ZaarsShed Жыл бұрын
@@PartyCreate you don't - it appears as a plain usb webcam.
@CatalinStelian
@CatalinStelian 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I struggled with it too! What I did ( cause I haven’t bought the bridge yet) is to basically send hdmi out from mini iso to a monitor that has in and out hdmi! And from that monitor send the signal with a capture card straight to the laptop. It gave me the same feed as the monitor so I just selected the full screen option! So if you haven’t bought the bridge yet, it works without too! But you just lose the 4camera view.
@soulbuffet837
@soulbuffet837 3 жыл бұрын
Hi catalin, will it help with sending hdmi out directly via capture card to the pc too? If you don’t care about multiview?
@lunabonitavisualproduction8512
@lunabonitavisualproduction8512 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work around - I need to show videos at times (like tomorrow) and there is no time to order the bridge.
@mehdiego2308
@mehdiego2308 2 жыл бұрын
Pointless since you are losing multiview. Priceless feature that pros can’t avoid
@joecabrera6142
@joecabrera6142 5 ай бұрын
Great stuff brother! We are building our studios out now and this was clutch! 🙏
@danielkoyeofficial
@danielkoyeofficial 3 жыл бұрын
I have been trying to set up a live stream/recording and I keep coming back to this video... its awesome and so helpful!
@Fortenzo
@Fortenzo Жыл бұрын
OMG, I didn't understand why this video was good until I read your comment. I remember using my ATEM to live stream to Facebook and to Zoom in 2020 via OBS. I remember recording all 4 streams on a SSD drive plugged into my computer. But now that I think about it, I don't think I was trying to record those live views + live stream. I think I was pulling the stream off of Facebook or whatever. It's been a while! Stress dreams dominate my attempts to think logically about that period. LOL Thanks for your comment!
@SezzzSimon
@SezzzSimon 2 жыл бұрын
This video has all the answers! Super job!
@LukaPanik
@LukaPanik 7 ай бұрын
I've been running OBS and ATEM Mini Pro with a capture card since the start of COVID. Recording simultaneously on both. No need to engage two ATEMs. Even more cost effective with just one ATEM Extreme.
@loratotv4960
@loratotv4960 3 ай бұрын
Teach us then
@TDiMedia
@TDiMedia 2 жыл бұрын
Basically, if you are using the Mini Pro ISO with OBS to stream, as we have to as we need some opacity in graphics we need to import and overlay when filming motor sport that the atem does not offer, buy the extreme instead. If the additional device was £50 (what it's probably worth), then it's a workaround, but at over £225 it's a nonsense of a solution when comparing the additional functionality of the extreme for the difference in price, plus you have a lot more inputs. Bought a 3 port usb c hub so I could go to two ssd's and the laptop, but the laptop does not then see the atem as a web camera input in OBS.
@GamersPlayerUnion
@GamersPlayerUnion 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you freaking genius. Even though I got to spend money on the streaming bridge its more than worth it to be able to record the hard drive AND to get the video to OBS, plus at some point use it for what the streaming bridge was attended for. As far as a capture device since I already own a a Elgato HD60s that should be a excellent option with minimum lag. You know I had to subscribe and like this video. GOOD JOB BRO!
@KevinMcGuireReports
@KevinMcGuireReports 3 жыл бұрын
This is a *life-changing* realization. Thanks for the tip!
@Mreclectables
@Mreclectables 3 жыл бұрын
This was great! We just got our atem mini pro iso in and still need to get everything setup. Thanks for the tips and walkthrough!
@pface33
@pface33 2 жыл бұрын
Those small HDMI-USB dongles output 30FPS only... if you're in the US working at 60Hz this is not a problem, but for the rest of us with 50Hz in the 25/50 FPS world - it is not suitable, the OBS stream will lose frames. To solve this, I am using BlackMagic UltraStudio Recorder 3G, which can output as a USB-C webcam and supports all frame rates
@DymaxionCollective
@DymaxionCollective 9 ай бұрын
well done man. Really well done! I appreciate you
@lawrencefloyd5411
@lawrencefloyd5411 3 жыл бұрын
Great fix guys. I just sent my streaming bridge back because I couldn't figure this out. I hope you can improve the latency is down to a half second. Then it's usable for an in person audience who would be annoyed with the latency. At any rate, this is fantastic.
@ajleak1
@ajleak1 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking out all the guesswork!
@BIGBACKGAMER
@BIGBACKGAMER 3 ай бұрын
You da man for this
@OfficialPablitoDrum
@OfficialPablitoDrum 3 жыл бұрын
The best video so far, explaining all this! Thanks!
@manojgarg8223
@manojgarg8223 6 ай бұрын
this is what a creative person can do..
@JOTV876
@JOTV876 Жыл бұрын
awesome work around!! Thanks so much!!
@Minotaurus007
@Minotaurus007 3 жыл бұрын
While the expensive Atem Mini Extreme Iso has solved the problem meanwhile with its two USB-C outputs (plus two HDMI outputs you can use as well!) it is interesting to see how you can convert Ethernet to HDMI. But hey: you could have put your Atem HDMI-out to an HDMI Splitter (to monitor and to OBS!) instead of using the Atem Streaming Bridge, right?
@RayOrsini
@RayOrsini 2 жыл бұрын
This is what I would've done before the extreme and it would've cost 1/10th the price
@mehdiego2308
@mehdiego2308 2 жыл бұрын
No cause the hdmi out from the atem is in multiview mode. If you switch it to normal mode and go into obs directly it will work but you lost the multiview. So depends on the situation but for me your solution is pointless cause you are losing something. How could you know if your camera is properly framed if you don’t see it before you put it live .
@jonaswalther2429
@jonaswalther2429 3 жыл бұрын
Close to 8 Weeks later, BMD puts the ATEM Mini Extreme out, with two USB-C Ports
@justinjbenjamin
@justinjbenjamin 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, not having two USB C was an oversight on the Pro ISO for sure.
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@kaevOne
@kaevOne 3 жыл бұрын
so atem mini iso + stream bridge = same price of atem mini extreme and it works the same?
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaevOne Well technically we don't know that. My gut says extreme will work better because it will remove the 1 second of latency we experience through the bridge.
@tvpierce1
@tvpierce1 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent work. Thanks for posting. One question: If you run the ethernet out of the ATEM to a router, can you stream to the Stream Bridge AND run the ATEM companion software simultaneously?
@ViciousMarshmallow
@ViciousMarshmallow 2 жыл бұрын
you absolutely can, its the way I do it now
@squareyetelevisionlimited2108
@squareyetelevisionlimited2108 3 жыл бұрын
Nice thinking. Well done and thanks for sharing.
@GutoHernandes
@GutoHernandes 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Finally! This is the ONLY WAY to stream to Zoom and ISO record at the same time (that I know of, and I've searched for DAYS!) Ok, now the next challenge is doing the same thing without the streaming bridge 😂 Using NDI maybe?
@ferozleon
@ferozleon 3 жыл бұрын
If you are using a second atem mini why not just use the HDMI program out from the ISO to the mini and forgo any latency issues. And you are probably going to ask about multi view but just by a multi view monitor that has 4 inputs and outputs
@CatalinStelian
@CatalinStelian 3 жыл бұрын
You can do it without the bridge too! You just have to give up the control view with multiple cameras and just pick the full view!
@ivarmh
@ivarmh 3 жыл бұрын
Just run free software like i.e. NGINX with RTMP-server on your OBS computer and you will not need to purchase any new hardware and you can keep controlling your Atem Mini Pro ISO with the Atem Software Control or other networkbased control solutions like Companion. Ads a few seconds of latency though.
@emptysplit
@emptysplit 3 ай бұрын
By the time you buy the bridge, approx. $230, an ATEM MIni Pro ISO $500 (amazon sale), and a low latency capture card $150-200, you might as well save another $420 to buy the Extreme ISO tbh. And the upside you'll have less middlemen devices that create a lot of latency, something you don't need on a professional production. When the Mini Pro Iso first came out you always needed a bridge which was almost $180 less than buying the Extreme ISO. In the end its only a firmware/software wall that Blackmagic doesn't want to fix because its a way to up sale. The Mini Pro ISO spec wise is capable of sending video from the ethernet without streaming. They don't want to fix it because the bridge would die in the market, as it should. If BMD don't create a switcher that sends video out via ethernet without streaming someone will.
@annebokma4637
@annebokma4637 Жыл бұрын
Record your iso on the atem mini iso and use the HDMI out to plug into a normal atem mini and use that devices usb to webcam. That would work right? Distribution comes after that, I use NDI for routing. So why all the extra? A normal mini is a great device for capturing. Using a mini extreme iso, only have 4 sources connected, but the double usb and HDMI makes it so much better Now waiting for full HDMI 2.1 atem 😊
@iedentv
@iedentv 3 жыл бұрын
1) Can you not capture via USB OUT from yr ATEM PRO to "webcam" on OBS, OR 2) via LAN /Stream OUT from the ATEM to OBS NDI? (And record via OBS if you wish). Last question 3) if you use your method, what are the ATEM stream settings; server, key, address, etc?
@pretzzel
@pretzzel 2 жыл бұрын
yes you can use the atem as webcam over ethernet port, and still record through usbc :D search for rtmp, ffmpeg, h264 codec
@richmoca
@richmoca 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Shrimp0kUgel
@Shrimp0kUgel Жыл бұрын
This is great, but why don't you just plug the HDMI out from the ATEM mini pro iso into the capture card directly? Why does it need to go via ethernet to the streaming bridge? Doesn't the HDMI out show the same feed? Or is that for monitoring only? (i.e. does it have UI controls on it?)
@MatthewPolack
@MatthewPolack 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this..we want to do something similar in our school...just another thought...given we're not necessarily after amazing quality...could we just stream directly via OBS/KZbin etc...and simply record the stream via OBS? Is that another possible 'simple' solution?
@djblade7
@djblade7 3 жыл бұрын
I didnt get it 100% but you can do this: 1. Record on disk and directly stream to fb/etc from atem mini(no pc needed) 2. Record on disk and stream to atem bridge and do exactly as he did aaand 3. Record on a disk,setup a rtmp server on your pc and feed it to obs. The only think is setting a good rtmp server is a bit tricky. There is a software(rtmp server) which i dont recall at the moment, i set it up in 10 mins and it worked But didnt test it on professional enviroment. You just have to spent some time reading on how it works and set it correctly and you dont need the blackmagic bridge!
@ectv
@ectv Жыл бұрын
cool video Thank you for figuring this out
@christianimdahl3070
@christianimdahl3070 3 жыл бұрын
OK, this variant works, but it also works without StreamingBridge. - Install MonaServer on the PC and open it. - Stream the signal from the Atem Mini Pro to the PC - Add a VLC video source in OBS: rtmp://localhost Done. delay: approx. 2-3 seconds
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory 3 жыл бұрын
Via Ethernet? I don't believe the Atem Mini Pro will stream the video signal via ethernet cable without the bridge unit. Remember the other outputs are taken up by storage media and the multiview monitor.
@christianimdahl3070
@christianimdahl3070 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheVideoContentFactory You can try it, I work sometimes with this solution. It's rtmp. So it is the same protocol like youtube or other. If there are questions, I try to answer.
@gustavopanacioni
@gustavopanacioni Жыл бұрын
Hey! Thank you for this video. I just have one doubt: is it possible to take the HDMI output from ATEM Mini Pro ISO and connect it directly as a HDMI input on ATEM Mini? So ATEM Mini would be used as a capture card to OBS and ATEM Mini Pro ISO would record all video sources.
@G_handle
@G_handle Жыл бұрын
Yes but... Like you only have 1 USB-C you also only have 1 HDMI Out. You can make that HDMI be Program out, but then you can't see the Multiviewer. If you make it MV, you lose program out.
@jon50
@jon50 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a fun challenge? Find a work around for only being able to stream to one bridge? Maybe have a local restream server that can broadcast to multiple local destinations. I’ve been trying to find a video or info for this, but am having quite the time finding anything
@Ishootyoudotcom
@Ishootyoudotcom 3 жыл бұрын
Would this work if the streaming Bridge, both ATEMS, a Hyperdeck Studio Mini and two Laptops (one running OBS, the other one running the ATEM software) were connected via a network HUB?
@siskoDE
@siskoDE 3 жыл бұрын
Short question. I own a Macbook Pro from 2018. I last connected my DSLR via USB and integrated it into OBS using a software solution. A USB mic is also connected to the Macbook Pro. When streaming, the Macbook Pro box has already reached its limits and the CPU load ensures that you can actually no longer use the computer to work in a program and stream a video tutorial, for example. The ATEM Mini Pro with built-in encoder could solve this problem for me. In any case, I understand it that way, when I connect all the hardware mentioned to the ATEM Mini Pro and also connect my Macbook Pro to the ATEM via HDMI, that I can stream directly from the ATEM Mini Pro and the entire CPU performance would no longer come to fruition yes the ATEM is working. How does it all work when I connect all my hardware to the ATEM Mini Pro and connect it to my Macbook Pro via USB-C and then stream from my Macbook Pro via OBS (source is then ATEM video and audio). Is the CPU utilization of my Macbook Pro even smaller than when I use the first scenario without ATEM? Have you been able to gain experience on this?
@ttbirds1082
@ttbirds1082 3 жыл бұрын
A simpler option (if you can sacrifice multiview) is to connect the UVC device between ATEM HDMI Out and Laptop USB-C port. OBS will see the ATEM feed as a webcam. The ATEM USB-C port could be used to record.
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory 3 жыл бұрын
True, but the whole point is to keep all elements of the system in tact including multiview
@prodxJew
@prodxJew 9 ай бұрын
You’re genius
@niicechris
@niicechris 3 жыл бұрын
love the video btw, really helped
@tinnick
@tinnick Жыл бұрын
Can’t you just plug the PGM out (hdmi) to the capture card? Or I guess that hdmi output is being used for monitor out. Anyway, NICE!
@swagmag856
@swagmag856 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question that is SOMEWHAT related to this, but it may help someone else too. I have a Hyperdeck Studio, a Video Assist 3G, Atem Mini Pro, and the Streaming Bridge is on the way. I have the Atem Mini Pro's program going into OBS as a webcam. I want to be able to use the Streaming Bridge in the same way you are, but with a twist. Instead , I want to use the USB-C port to record to my external SSD (which is a given), yes, but I want to be able to use my Streaming Bridge to send SDI or HDMI signal to my Blackmagic Video Assist. Then, using the Video Assist 3G 's webcam ability to go to OBS Studio (for guest interivews), and project the final OBS Output to my GTX-1080ti's display to an HDMI adapter and record the final output back into the Video Assist. I believe the latest update to the Video Assist 3G gave it the ability to select which channel to record (SDI or HDMI). I prefer to keep my Hyperdeck for playback instead of recording, since it can do auto-roll from the switcher, and the Video Assist cannot. If this is not possible to record back to the Video Assist on another channel, I plan to BEG Blackmagic to update the Hyperdeck Studio firmware so that I could record on one SSD while using the other for playback. I have a feeling that I will be forced to use the Atem Mini Pro's USB-C for webcam to OBS, the GPU's display port output converted to HDMI to the Video Assist for recording OBS Output, and therefore nullifying the external USB-C SSD. If this s wordy or verbose, I am also typing this for myself as a reference point while it is in my head.
@ricardorivera2383
@ricardorivera2383 3 жыл бұрын
How much, if any, video quality is lost when going from ISO>Bridge>Capture Card (Or Atem Mini)>PC?
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't noticed much at all, still able to send out the hd signal, but that would likely be more based on the capture card in the computer rather than the iso to bridge. Keep in mind it is NOT a 4k output from the switcher, it already downresses the footage to HD. You need one of the big boy ATEM units to retain the 4K signals from cameras.
@QuikTechSolutions
@QuikTechSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t you just split the hdmi out from the Atem Mini Pro ISO & run one side to your monitor and the other to an input on the Atem Mini to get the same result without the need for the streaming bridge?
@GutoHernandes
@GutoHernandes 3 жыл бұрын
The only hdmi out from atem mini pro ISO is the multiview, with all the previews from the cameras and the streaming output preview. Otherwise you don't get to see the cameras you're switching (you'd only see the "program" camera, the one being used at the time). You'd still need a capture card to input the split HDMI to a computer to use OBS.
@QuikTechSolutions
@QuikTechSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
@@GutoHernandes ok. I thought the HDMI Out had the option of selecting Program out as well. Thanks.
@filrmn
@filrmn 10 ай бұрын
Noob question: why not to use recording via obs instead external drive?
@sessionfiddler
@sessionfiddler 2 жыл бұрын
Can you not load up RTMP mini server by Garanin on the PC and configure the mini pro to stream to it? Mini server then outputs to OBS as an NDI source.
@benboonproduction
@benboonproduction 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review thanks
@cushmodesigns
@cushmodesigns 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video. Thanks for sharing this workaround. Question...What do you use the ISO's for ? I'm trying to understand why you need to record to SSD to capture the ISOs.? do you edit with them later? or like to have the raw video from each input? If you have no need for this , then recording in OBS would be the solution to capture the full stream in a record mode. Thanks.
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory 3 жыл бұрын
The ISO recordings are fantastic for when you're doing a multicamera project and want to cut it same day, BUT want the ability to change some of the cuts later, add graphics or re-link all the cameras to the B-raw footage that all of our blackmagic cameras record in. Better color and the ability to make mistakes and fix them later
@sajidy2669
@sajidy2669 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@Blackfilmguild
@Blackfilmguild 3 жыл бұрын
If there were two USB C ports the ATEM mini pro would have been amazing!
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky for us the rectified it on the Extreme! Makes everything so much easier, highly recommend
@Blackfilmguild
@Blackfilmguild 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheVideoContentFactory Good call!
@mehdiego2308
@mehdiego2308 2 жыл бұрын
Gold
@mysterexmarsta150
@mysterexmarsta150 3 жыл бұрын
OH YEAHH!!!
@DennisClaes
@DennisClaes 3 жыл бұрын
Hero! Thanks alot!
@erichhaemmerle2654
@erichhaemmerle2654 3 жыл бұрын
I think you are doing this wrong. I was under the impression that you are supposed to connect the ethernet cable from your router straight into the ATEM. This puts the ATEM on your network and gives it internet and also allows you to control it via the ATEM software. Then you also connect a separate ethernet cable from your router to the Streaming Bridge port. This now puts the Streaming Bridge on your network. Then you go into the ATEM software and in the streaming settings, instead of choosing KZbin or Facebook to stream to, you choose the Streaming Bridge which should now show up as an option. This allows you to stream to the streaming bridge (which is connected via the capture card to your computer) AND still be able to use the ATEM software to control the switcher.
@eduardo.carvajal
@eduardo.carvajal 2 жыл бұрын
I solve the problem using ElGato Cam link 4K. Connect the ATEM Mini HDMI output to ElGato CamLink. This will add a new webcam to your computer. One last step. Remember to press the Video Out PGM button.
@votoTV
@votoTV Жыл бұрын
Better take your money and invest to the extreme model. Sadly was not in sight when I bought the pro ISO. Went the line already with 4 hdmi splitters on input plus a 4x1 multiviewer. SoI have HDMI pgm out of the mini available to stream with additional capture interface and to monitor with no delay. The streaming bridge has much too much of delay for serious work.
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory Жыл бұрын
Can't agree with you more, this was our work around until they dropped the extreme models, before that we were only dreaming of two usb-cs!
@PortlandEventFilms
@PortlandEventFilms 3 жыл бұрын
You save my Life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@jmrmediapro
@jmrmediapro 3 жыл бұрын
Are you able to use the ATEM software for the iso?
@Minotaurus007
@Minotaurus007 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think so: Ethernet is disconnected and USB used for the SSD.
@retlwiz
@retlwiz 2 жыл бұрын
great stuff. So annoying that BM don't explain uses of the Streaming Bridge other than with BM products or just even to be able to split the output from the USB-C on the ATEM!
@_loois
@_loois 5 ай бұрын
Can you use the hdmi and sdi outputs from the bridge at the same time? So two feeds?
@MrBaptista
@MrBaptista 3 жыл бұрын
why didn't you plugged the ATEM Mini Pro's Program Out HDMI directly to the cheap capture card and stream that way?
@ScottRoeder
@ScottRoeder 3 жыл бұрын
You can do this but you will lose the ability to use multiview without broadcasting it to your stream.
@jeromem8654
@jeromem8654 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScottRoeder that's true.. I also used the HDMI out for my multiview and the C output to my OBS and send my OBS output to HDMI out of the computer and send it to the external monitor as program out. But that streaming bridge can change everything.
@ScottRoeder
@ScottRoeder 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeromem8654 with your setup it sounds like you are not using the usb-c output for ISO recordings, unless you are not using the ISO model. my current solution is to use a Seetec ATEM156 monitor which can take 4 hdmi inputs and loop them out as well. All hdmi sources go into the ATEM156 monitor which acts as a multiview, then they loop out into the ATEM Mini Pro ISO. Then I use the HDMI out on the ATEM mini to go to a hdmi splitter, where I have one go to show the program feed out, and another out to into the streaming computer (if im not streaming directly from the ATEM). And the USB-C is open to connect a hard drive to get the ISO recordings. It might be hard to visualize but it works pretty well so far.
@jeromem8654
@jeromem8654 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScottRoeder i don't have an ISO model yet. If I have an ISO and an ATEM156, I would do the same setup as yours. But how can you view the preview output of your switcher aside from the preview of the source input?
@ScottRoeder
@ScottRoeder 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeromem8654 I actually use two ATEM156 monitors, one for all the camera inputs to get my multiview, and one for the program out. I have the hdmi out from the ISO going into a hdmi splitter, that way I can have one go to a "program monitor" and then 3 extra hdmi outs to wherever i want.
@KPGuitarStudios
@KPGuitarStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Or you can just use vMix (with the 4k or Pro version) for all your ISO recording and better streaming than OBS and then a Blackmagic Quad Capture PCIe card and it's cheaper and more capable. If you're using laptops, you can simply get an eGPU enclosure to connect to the laptop and consider adding SSD drives and other cool aspects to the eGPU enclosure. This setup seems like a hodge podge workaround and is limited to 1080p. 4k 60p is available in the setup I described. NDI is the future, Blackmagic needs to get on board.
@fearbabyriffs
@fearbabyriffs 3 жыл бұрын
Even if you run love the idea of Vmix features running on a high end box (I do & have run it daily since 2017) .....the weak spot is it runs on WIndows & Windows is not the most stable operating system. NDI also has latency. Plus most people/viewers still don't have unbelievable data plans & home internet to even be interested in wasting it streaming 4k 60p content on the small percentage who are dedicated to viewing everything at those higher resolutions. If a person is recording high end live high resolution concerts/once in a lifetime events they are are probably going to be post editing it anyway not filming it via Vmix hoping Windows doesn't error out. I think BMD has a good product here to address mid res live recording stability.
@Theeslickness
@Theeslickness 2 жыл бұрын
Wow you solved it! Well done! But wait, did you try connecting the ATEM ISO via network cable to the computer AND turn "On Air"? Seems like that should have worked too.
@Theeslickness
@Theeslickness 2 жыл бұрын
NVM I just tested it. The ATEM control works via RJ45 and TB adapter. However no webcam feed appears when "On Air". Just a noticed the BM Web Presenter HD has a RJ45 port. Which could be another robust way to input the video feed to OBS.
@RedJenkins1
@RedJenkins1 7 ай бұрын
So this is only necessary if you want to use the main HDMI out to view the whole preview deck on a separate monitor correct?
@interchainme
@interchainme 11 ай бұрын
Doesn't the Streaming Bridge has a USBC port? What is it for? I thought you can connect that to the computer to UBS, without needing another ATEM Mini or a capture device
@PsychiatryonlineITA1
@PsychiatryonlineITA1 3 жыл бұрын
but what about the lack of NDI input to the MINI? no trick about?
@MonteWeaverofficial
@MonteWeaverofficial 3 жыл бұрын
You are the man. Great video! #NewSubscriber
@VinylVinnie
@VinylVinnie 6 ай бұрын
Does the $13.99 capture card have higher quality compared to the usb webcam out of the ATEM?
@abba2566
@abba2566 3 жыл бұрын
Do you need to set up the stream in the switching software before hand? I've set it up, but the live stream button just keeps flashing but I've never actually configured the atem for streaming in the past?
@DavinciHD_
@DavinciHD_ 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE THE VIDEO. However I have a question thats bugging the crap outta me . Why not run the Atem Mini directly to OBS and the run your HDMI out to a field recorder. That way your visual portion is already recorded in 422 ProRes? I honestly feel like that streaming bridge is unnecessary cause you could also run the Atem Mini Pro ISO HDMI Out to the ATEM Mini and then run that to OBS. So then you Pro ISO is recording to SSD while the original mini runs to OBS. Great Video by the way. Just seem like its taking the long way just to get around the corner if that analogy makes any sense.
@fhajji
@fhajji Жыл бұрын
The whole point is to record all the video inputs as separate files, so that after the stream, you can make something else out of them in post.
@niicechris
@niicechris 3 жыл бұрын
is the pixels in the middle of the video due to recording and streaming?
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory 3 жыл бұрын
It's not at all! We are using a wireless GhostEyes set up, and there was a little interference that was present in monitors pre stream and pre recording. There were people around the studio so likely a cellphone. You will not have this issue if you go wired directly or if you mess with your antenna's a bit more.
@niicechris
@niicechris 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheVideoContentFactory awesome thank you for the response 👍🏼
@tomschi9485
@tomschi9485 2 ай бұрын
*Thanks a lot for your great work & help!, but it's pretty bad (very annoying) that you have this problem with the audio background noise* - it is just disturbing and does not help / support the video at all.
@tomschi9485
@tomschi9485 2 ай бұрын
hmmm.. maybe, it's a kind of background 'music' and if you are creating the Videos for you, then it's perfectly OK 🙂. But if you're happy if you can address as many viewers as possible, then it does not help.
@MrJani0951
@MrJani0951 3 жыл бұрын
Why is this video glitch on the front camera? And another questions how much bitrate is on streaming because RJ45 send picture in bitrates, How much bitrate is that? Is the image good?
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory 3 жыл бұрын
That's from a wireless signal disruption in our Ghost Eyes Signal not a result of streaming. Image is perfect, the downsampling occurs within the ATEM Mini Pro. We've never had any bitrate issue, it's certainly at HD distribution levels.
@romainlandat3061
@romainlandat3061 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video! Can we still control the cameras with this setup? (blackmagic micro studio 4k)
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory 3 жыл бұрын
Youre welcome! So you can control the cameras before the stream by connecting to your computer through the ethernet or usb-c port, then using the ATEM control software (like we all know how to do). But! you can run your switcher through your network so that you can split the ethernet signal to the streaming bridge and your computer. This will allow you to control the cameras and use OBS at the same time. Without the network though, you cannot control the ATEM and use OBS at the same time.
@romainlandat3061
@romainlandat3061 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheVideoContentFactory Thanks !
@Minotaurus007
@Minotaurus007 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheVideoContentFactory Really? Atem mini -> Ethernet-Switch/Hub ->To Bridge AND to OBS-PC??? How to address?
@lawrencefloyd5411
@lawrencefloyd5411 3 жыл бұрын
One more question. I'd like to use one of the streaming bridge SDI outputs to run into our remote monitors in our building via a cable setup that already exist. Will the HDMI ouput now interrupt this process?
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory 3 жыл бұрын
It shouldn’t! Technically the outputs on the Streaming Bridge are active at all times but we can test this specific situation and get back to you!
@lawrencefloyd5411
@lawrencefloyd5411 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheVideoContentFactory Thanks a lot. You guys are awesome.
@JakeBrian
@JakeBrian Жыл бұрын
ah man, thank you I AM SO CLOSE to getting this to work But my "on air" button won't stop blinking, i've already reset, done all the research I know to do, and it won't stop blinking and so I'm not getting signal in obs, all other parts have been tested and work and this seems to be the main issue Any help from community here, would be freaking amazing AF
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory Жыл бұрын
Are you using the streaming bridge? If so that means your streaming settings are off and it isn't connecting to that device. I'd recommend updating the firmware on streaming bridge so that creation of the xml is easier. Let me know how I can help!
@JakeBrian
@JakeBrian Жыл бұрын
​@@TheVideoContentFactory It was the streaming bridge and settings yes! Thank you so freaking much. So helpful
@maxwilson7001
@maxwilson7001 9 ай бұрын
This would still work if I replaced OBS with Zoom, right? I’m trying to stream over the Ethernet port and (using an Ethernet switch) have the capability to output a Zoom webcam
@JiruubGaming
@JiruubGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Question! So if you’re using the Ethernet cable from the Pro ISO into the Atem Streaming Bridge, then that to the capture card on your computer. Does that mean you no longer have access to the Atem Setup app on a computer?
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory 3 жыл бұрын
No, technically not. If you run your Switcher through your network (a router), you can split the signal from the Atem to your streaming bridge and computer to regain control through the Atem setup program.
@Nick-HBC
@Nick-HBC 2 жыл бұрын
What camera are you using as your primary camera here?
@rubenmoreno_oficial
@rubenmoreno_oficial 3 жыл бұрын
Do You notice difference about video Quality when You connect capture card and then Atem Mini to OBS?
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory 3 жыл бұрын
No real dip, the atem minis only output 720/1080 to begin with keep in mind.
@dr.jayburness6522
@dr.jayburness6522 3 жыл бұрын
Could you use the stream /Ethernet out thru the bridge and capture card to disc to record and use the USBc out to OBS without the delay?
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I actually don't see any reason why not. But you will lose the ability to record the ISOs which is the beauty of the Atem mini pro ISO unit. That would certainly work for program record.
@dataecstasy
@dataecstasy 3 жыл бұрын
one thing though you haven't shown that if the iso is still working because not sure why my atem mini is not detecting in the computer.
@dataecstasy
@dataecstasy 2 жыл бұрын
ah I missed the same thing as yours....on air button was supposed to be pressed.
@Godwin-CZ
@Godwin-CZ Жыл бұрын
TOO OBSOLETE - why not use the HDMI OUT on ATEM PRO ISO?
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory Жыл бұрын
NOT OBSOLETE - The HDMI out on the ATEM MINI Pro ISO is the ONLY output on that switcher. We still wanted to monitor our cameras with Multiview. The ATEM Mini Extreme ISO solves that issue though with it boasting 2 HDMI outputs and Two USB-C ports (one for web cam out and the other for ISO Recording).
@kwamepower
@kwamepower 3 жыл бұрын
How then do you get the atem showing in the software control ?
@ourfamilyjourney7
@ourfamilyjourney7 3 жыл бұрын
Will this method consumed the CPU usage? And what about quality? Is there any frame drop? Also, will I be encoding from ATEM MINI OR OBS? Thanks i
@alallen4092
@alallen4092 2 жыл бұрын
Using the ATEM Bridge remotely over the internet, is it possible to connect a camera to the usb c or to either of the SDI REF IN connections to than broadcast that camera through a an ATEM SDI Extreme ISO locality and out to a Zoom audience. (Don’t know if the Bridge HDMI is bidirectional.) Would the ATEM Bidirectional SDI HDMI 12G Converter be required to use a remote camera feed in this scenario?
@terryleahy6954
@terryleahy6954 2 жыл бұрын
Currently the Bridge is not bidirectional. However what you can do is have the Bridge at the home studio, and run a camera into the ATEM SDI Pro (or extreme) and use a 5G phone signal to broadcast untethered
@christophemes4468
@christophemes4468 3 жыл бұрын
Would I be able to also use the SD OUT on the bridge and connect it to the SD IN on the HyperDeck Studio Mini to record on an SD card there?
@bernettaparker3739
@bernettaparker3739 Жыл бұрын
Do you think this process will work on a Mac the same way?
@jamesgrasso3764
@jamesgrasso3764 2 жыл бұрын
So I just used this setup for streaming from my ATEM mini pro. Is there a way to still do lower thirds without being able to use the computer interface?
@canvas_sf
@canvas_sf 2 жыл бұрын
I could use your help! I connected everything as showed and while my computer is seeing the Blackmagic, it is not seeing the video feed via ethernet. I've tried two different ethernet cables to check that it wasn't a cable issue and connected my camera directly to my atem mini pro to ensure it wasn't an hdmi cable issue also and that worked. So I'm not sure what the problem is? I just received the Atem Mini Pro Iso yesterday, so I guess maybe that could be broken? But I doubt it. Thoughts?
@frankentronics
@frankentronics Жыл бұрын
How about if you just buy the ATEM mini extrême? It has two USB-C ports.
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory Жыл бұрын
We can't agree with you more! But check the date on the video, the ATEM Mini Extreme didn't exist yet! We had to find a way around the issue until it was released.
@Sharivari
@Sharivari 7 ай бұрын
Your question and the corresponding response solved my problem aswell. Awesome!
@elishafalk2936
@elishafalk2936 3 жыл бұрын
Can you also use the sdi outs to go to local TVs like in a different rooms?
@TheVideoContentFactory
@TheVideoContentFactory 3 жыл бұрын
certainly, even better there are TWO sdi outs!
@IsaacWahnon
@IsaacWahnon 2 жыл бұрын
Why the ATEM mini pro HDMI out you can't connect directly to the video capture? thanks
@ViciousMarshmallow
@ViciousMarshmallow 2 жыл бұрын
You can, but with only a single HDMI out, you are choosing program only instead of also getting a multi view out in addition to program feed.
@chitChatNexus
@chitChatNexus 2 жыл бұрын
hi ., i extreme pro iso ., and i cant get it to work . i have all the cables but i cant see multiview first of all , and obs is far to connect . i did every single thing you mentioned since i have 8 hdmi ports , 2 in out hdmi ports , and 2 usb c but still i dont understand
@IsoMedia-yt8ne
@IsoMedia-yt8ne 3 ай бұрын
Does it work with Atem Mini Pro ?
@PowerMediaStudio
@PowerMediaStudio Жыл бұрын
like it
@MichaelW.1980
@MichaelW.1980 3 жыл бұрын
It should be possible to go from the pro iso to a capture card directly, shouldn’t it? Or is the HDMI out already in use elsewhere?
@terryleahy6954
@terryleahy6954 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is that the HDMI out is being used for a multiview monitor. This workaround is designed to allow you to also use the multiview monitor via HDMI out.
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