Blackmagic Cinema Camera - Setup & Overview - MagnanimousRentals.com

Jonah walks through the setup and some of the virtues of the Blackmagic Cinema Camera.
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[@brandoncadman9401]

I'm starting my first camera job tomorrow and this helped a bunch! I'm no longer nervous so thank you!

[@jmagnanimous]

RAW refers to raw sensor data. 4:4:4 refers to color sampling (4 green, 4 red and 4 blue) and Log refers to the gamma curve (contrast, saturation, density, etc). When working with RAW you are working with data that has not been compressed or (like with RED/Sony F5/55) it's been compressed, but some aspects are not baked in to the compression (color balance, ISO, etc). So, they are all different things, but you can shoot 4:4:4 in a Log gamma and still have compression.

[@jmagnanimous]

Thanks Eric. We appreciate the info and suggestion. We haven't had any problems with ours, but it's good to know about. I believe that the Crucials were among the suggested drives for the BMCC, so it's disappointing to hear that they are not performing to expectations, but thanks for the alternative.

[@CompuTALK]

How would you compare the dynamic range and shallow depth of field of the BMC when compared to a comparable setup with a 5D Mark III while using ProRes. If one was not ready to mess with all the raw footage issues how would the BMC compare in quality to the 5D MKIII? Thanks.

[@OdaneGoldenCoore]

thanks a lot man

[@RoyMulder]

Have any underwater housing manufacturers other than Equinox made a housing for the Blackmagic?

[@ministeriodelasculturasnqn]

hello! great video! i have a question i have a problem with my blackmagic design, the camera doesn't recognize the aperture, and when I put ssd on it, it keeps telling me '' no sdd '' is that common?

[@jmagnanimous]

Hello Jim. In my experience the benefit of this camera is entirely in Raw. I can't say how they compair in image, but I've never liked the BMCC Pro Res image. We'll do a test soon, but to my eye the BMCC is capable of 2 more stops of DR when compared to 5D Cinestyle, but you'll have to grade it. DOF doesn't really compair. The 5D is full frame, so it is capable of drastically shallower DOF. Wide open on a 5D is pretty unacceptable in most situations. The 5D is far better in low light.

[@acewellington6008]

Where can you find the hand bracket

[@SillyEddyPhotography]

The cinema version of exposure time. Like a wheel with chunks cut out of it, 180 degrees means the wheel is spinning around with half exposed and half blocking the sensor. After one revolution of the wheel the sensor or film has been exposed for 180 degrees of the wheel. So at 24p, 180 degrees will expose for 1/48th of a second. At 90 degrees, it exposes for 1/96th.

[@giammyzanna]

If you shoot ProRes can you use a standard hard drive instead of an SSD?

[@jmagnanimous]

You should be able to use a 7200rpm 2.5" drive to record Pro Res. That said I wouldn't suggest it. The Blackmagic Cinema Camera is all about the RAW. For some reason Pro Res "Film" (Logarithmic Gamma) doesn't seem to grade very well from the BMCC and the only other choice is Rec709 (Video), which has a nasty fall off into the highlights. To me, the only point of these cameras is affordable access to 12-bit uncompressed RAW. If you need faster workflow or a more affordable package you might be better off with a DSLR. If you don't want to grade RAW, then you won't get your investment back from this camera.

[@giammyzanna]

Jonah Rubash My point would be to shoot 2.5k in ProRes on a standard hard drive because they are cheaper. (Then I guess that the Production camera (4K) absolutely needs SSDs even for prores videos, is it?) But if you tell me that it doesn't grade well (I'll never use the Video profile, it sucks) then a 5D would be better for my needs.

[@jmagnanimous]

giammyzanna Unfortunately, Pro Res and DNxHD only come in the 1920x1080 flavor. Part of what I find unattractive about Pro Res and DNxHD is a poor debayer from 2.5K. There are a number os DSLRs that might fit your needs a little better. The D800 and MkIII will both output a clean 1080 signal from the HDMI, so you can always record to a Ninja or other recorder for a little better quality. The MkIII also has some promising hacks available. If you want a better all-around camera I would suggest the C100. It's pricier, but has great low-light, Super35 sensor, great Color Profile options and also has an 8-bit 4:2:2 uncompressed HDMI.

[@jmagnanimous]

giammyzanna also... the 4K camera does shoot 4K Pro Res. I can't say if a 7200rpm drive would be fast enough for that, but I would think that you would need SSDs for that. We'll let you know once we get ours.

[@giammyzanna]

Jonah Rubash Thanks a lot

[@Omnipotent2013]

I love this camera, coming from a cheapy DSLR it's I think a great step up. I have learned a lot about the BMCC since I bought it.

[@pnuthead4279]

Would a Pelican 1120 case be a good camera case for it? (just the camera and one other short lens)

[@combatwombat71]

Why are there 'noise patterns' at 800ISO? I thought the camera sensor's native ISO was 800? I which case I though shooting at 800 ISO would be the cleanest? Other sites and pages I've read recommend shooting at 800 ISO.

[@jmagnanimous]

What you are referring to is the "optimal ISO." Optimal ISO is never the "cleanest" ISO. Optimal is the lowest ISO at which 18% Grey will expose in the middle of the dynamic range. Native ISO, usually the lowest, is just the standard sensitivity of the sensor. What I actually said is that you will not be able to pull detail out of the shadows without introducing noise in a noticeable pattern. If you're shooting at 800 and using a standard LUT or basic grading you won't notice noise. Every digital camera will have reduced noise at lower ISO, but lowering ISO from Optimal will impact your gamma (contrast) by loosing room in the highlights, but gaining some room in the shadows.

[@combatwombat71]

Thanks for the info :-)

[@XDceleratepwnage]

What is the dc adapter pkugg size i got one but it was 5.5mm and it does not fit what is the right size

[@jmagnanimous]

SillyEddyPhotography has an excellent explanation above. Most digital cameras accomplish this via a rolling shutter. The sensor scans the image line by line. This leads to some image issues, such as flash banding and "jello effect." The jello effect is most noticeable on the 5D MkII as well as other DSLRs that weren't really designed for Video. The term global shutter refers to a sensor that scans the entire image simultaneously.

[@AmmarAlkaabi]

My dear brother, I have the same camera and I updated it to the latest update, but unfortunately I am not able to raise the ISO to above 800, so how can you, brother, raise it to 1600 ISO?

[@WatchVenusSpa]

But how do you pull off video that clear in low light without having crazy amounts of grain?

[@LooperFFA]

Hi, I've got a question. Can you charge the internal battery while recording?

[@MagnanimousMediaChicago]

Looper / Casper Yes, you absolutely can!

[@DanielKMihalev]

+Magnanimous Media What is this mount you are using?

[@vaitahavya]

hi . what brand of thunderbolt cable is suggested for ultra scopes and monitor .. i am having trouble with these cables

[@josebuezas]

Hi. How do you connect the camera to the computer to ingest the footage? USB doesn't connect at all...

[@Rosomyat]

Great overview! I have a question. What is the best Gimbal or stabilizer that is suitable with BMCC 2.5K. THANKS

[@sergiofilmmaker94]

It is a heavy camera. It works on my moza air 2. And i was able to fit it in my DJI ronin M but only with some light lenses, you have to be careful when mounting on the ronin m because it can scratch your camera sides.

[@TVperson1]

So, is this camera 4:4:4 in RAW mode? Chomakey won't work with 4:2:2 or 4:2:0, unless you like jagged edges hair .

[@malickdiouf2763]

HI. HOW TO TAKE PHOTOS WITH BLACK MAGIC CINEMA

[@WarlordDestroyer]

Greetings. There have been rumors about this, well, I've even seen it in the Blackmagic Design forum, but I just want to know from someone that already owns the camera ¿Is it true that the Canon EF-S lenses work on the Blackmagic Cinema Camera with the EF mount? Cheers.

[@ericcosh]

HI Jonah. Great job. My only suggestion is to remove the segment on the Crucial SSD's. They just don't work as they drop frames. I had to return both of mine and then purchased the Sandisk Extreme's (480's) which are flawless. Again Jonah, super job. warmly, eric

[@Sonu_Surag]

can u please suggest an all rounder lens for blackmagic cinema camera 2.5k, best wide lens please , affordable , my purpose is shortfilm making

[@ODeniranFilms]

I took my deposit back from B&H I had to wait 3 days for them to put it back on my debit card. I took it back because I feel the camera is still in its developing stages. Other than that I would get it and up grade.

[@TVperson1]

Explain this to me, is RAW the same as 4:4:4 Log?

[@amanwithnohands]

Noisy at higher than 800? That's not good... So for lowlight- I should stick with Canon 6D?

[@andrin1248]

whats the name of this lense, not the canon one

[@intrinsiccinema7374]

thank you for confirming the iso 800 i always shoot at iso 400 because i get a cleaner image

[@WarlordDestroyer]

Thanks, it's good to know, I'll try it when mine arrives.

[@Ckbriri1]

what are the lenses used in the video ?

[@MagnanimousMediaChicago]

Canon CN-E Lenses :) magnanimousrentals.com/rental/canon-cne-cinema-prime-lens-kit/312

[@AnigmaEntertainment]

Can I record audio in RAW at all?

[@jmagnanimous]

Yes, you can record audio in any internal codec. The internal mic isn't very good and we've seen problems with running audio into the two 1/4" jacks. You're best off with an external recorder.

[@sachinjot]

nice and clean !! Cheers

[@mybetterfilms]

Does it record to Sd card? Can I use adobe premiere? Can I use my pc? I don't want any surprises in editing workflow and then have to invest more money

[@MagnanimousMediaChicago]

@mybetterfilms Unfortunately, the Black Magic Cinema Camera only records to a solid state drive (ssd). You can use your pc if your're using adobe premiere to edit as well.

[@ericcosh]

Hi WarlordDestroyer. YES! As an example, I use my EF-S F2.8 17-55mm Canon lens and it rocks! eric

[@jmagnanimous]

Yeah, it's really not a run and gun or low-light option. It's a cinema camera. You get good options for the price, but you need good lighting for it to look good and you have to work with RAW (The Pro Res and DNxHD don't look good to me). If you want a camera that performs decently all around for the same price, then DSLRs seem to still be the way to go.

[@intrinsiccinema7374]

thats funny i love the dnx hd and raw it go to show you everybody are different, thanks again for the info

[@TERRAMOUNT]

very nice!

[@Patrick_559]

Th 6D is good but yeah in video you shouldn't push your iso that far

[@youbian]

It’s crazy we’re still machining things out of alignment with human ergonomics. Guess I’ll have to go ahead and create my own company to address this.

[@QuantayPeoples]

only goes up to 1600 iso? must be a terrible low light camera..

[@YungDroProductions]

nice

[@CarterFilmLtd]

Go watch the Red River Media comparison of the BMCC to the MK III and prepare to have your mind blown. The MK III looks comparatively terrible. Very surprising.

[@seriousmikee]

Looks like a BIG Gopro:D

[@cagrigulhan2327]

Du bakalım...

[@thatbboyAli]

yes it does...lolol

[@shblair]

Deniran and Raymond, you guys are missing the point, i can shoot out of the box, yes, limited , but still out of the box for the cost of 2 or 3 RED batteries. and the product is not that many time better. Not every production needs RED. and i can handhold, jib on under $1000 cranes, use single suction cup and a BMPC and a cheep c-mount-m43 lens...no longer as a film maker are you limited by what you can afford to rent to realize your project, not to mention, you can now own and produce at will for what was once only the cost of a 'skinny' rental....and its only getting better...sorry RED...your too big, too expensive and to over hyped for the indie scene. Your place is on sound stage in Hollyweed.