IF I HAD TO PICK TODAY

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BLACKIE THOMAS

BLACKIE THOMAS

3 жыл бұрын

I AM OLD SCHOOL. SO FOR ME IF I HAD TO PICK TODAY WHAT WOULD I CHOOSE. I AM ASKED THIS QUESTION FROM THE FOLLWERS QUITE OFTEN. SO IN THIS VIDEO I WILL ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THIS WILL TIE IN WITH THE CAMP COOKING SERIES. THE US.ARMY CANTEEN ISA GREAT WELL TESTED AND PROVEN BIT OF WOODSCRAFT / BUSHCRAFT KIT. AS A COOK SET AS WELL AS A WATER CARRY SET IT HAS BEEN PROVEN FOR MANY MANY YRS.IS THERE A BETTER CHOICE FOR THE CAMPER HIKER. THE PATHFINDER STAINLESS STEEL COOK SET IS A LARGER SET WITH MANY GOOD ADVANTAGES OVER THE OLD ARMY CANTEEN. THE WOODSTOVE THAT ATTACHES TO THE PATHFINDER AND THE HEAVY DUTY LID MAKE COOKING IN THE CAMP A FAST EASY CHOICE.

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@brittburton3264
@brittburton3264 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I enjoy your videos, but I do have to disagree on one point. As a former soldier, I’d deploy for training for 4-6 weeks at a time into the woods… we never had time or equipment to clean out the army plastic canteens, but they never were getting funky. Sure, if time and supply allowed, we would rinse them out with fresh water, but cleaning? That only happened after return to the rear, so after 4-6 weeks of daily use. Never did I have a funky canteen in that use scenario.
@platoon1016
@platoon1016 Жыл бұрын
Just a tip, when drinking from a canteen or any water container, Do nt put your lips or mouth onit. hold the nozzle a bit above your mouth and pour the water in your mouth, This wikll eliminate Backwash from your lips and mouth. Keeps water cleaner. Love your videos , Never stop.
@TerryC69
@TerryC69 3 жыл бұрын
I started out thinking, "okay, Blackie, it is a water vessel what is there to say?" by the time we got just a couple of minutes in, I realized I needed to hold my horses and learn. Thank you, sir.
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@matopezuta2050
@matopezuta2050 Жыл бұрын
FYI: On canteens or you thermos for cleaning. Carry a few Polident tablets with you. use some luke warm water to fill it then drop a couple tablets in it and let sit overnight and rinse in the morning. It will clean even coffee stains and leaves a little bit of a minty flavor that actually helps the taste of the water in it.
@user-vg6ux1xp3h
@user-vg6ux1xp3h 2 ай бұрын
I use American Vietnam era canteen and cover, post Vietnam era American and Australian canteens and covers. Along with these I have Auscam covers that feature a pocket for a old style hexamine stove. But in my 49 years of camping, I’ve never seen a canteen cup stove or lid. I wrap electrical tape around my flat handle cup handle. Greetings from Australia and thanks for all the useful information.
@MAXCOBRALAZERFACE
@MAXCOBRALAZERFACE 3 жыл бұрын
I use 2 L Coke bottles as my water storage canteens. Sawyer squeeze for my filter & a titanium cup for cooking.
@nickcasolino8903
@nickcasolino8903 3 жыл бұрын
@SansDirections Getting Abdominal cancer is not fragility , it is asking for trouble. Plus if you are cold at night, you could boil your water inside your metal canteen bottle and use it as a hot water bag. It is also great to fight off Hypothermia the silent killer. You can't do that safely with a coke bottle
@Wendy-op3bu
@Wendy-op3bu 3 жыл бұрын
@HH 🧁
@Wendy-op3bu
@Wendy-op3bu 3 жыл бұрын
@HH I am dabbling with emojis... (Sweet) by the way ultimately I think emojis are stupid and brainless thank you kindly
@Wendy-op3bu
@Wendy-op3bu 3 жыл бұрын
@HH I should have known that yeah that's pretty funny
@sparrowflying864
@sparrowflying864 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickcasolino8903 They make these rechargeable handwarmers now. There about 35 dollars. Might be something worth looking into.
@SuperPangloss
@SuperPangloss 2 жыл бұрын
Never knew Nalgene made a GI style canteen! I've always used the standard round 1 liter Nalgenes. Good to know. Will shop for one now......thanks! (and you are spot one about the hot water bottle trick, have been doing that for years!)
@rgober60
@rgober60 3 жыл бұрын
Lolol...was gonna tell you what Glen said about the denture cleaner does a good job, but get the smokers type and to me it does better taking away any after taste. Thanks Blackie for sharing, y'all take care and have a blessed week.👍👍👍👍👍🕊💜🙏
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
Good to know! i have not thought of that
@benterwellen
@benterwellen 3 жыл бұрын
Blackie, What I have used for many years to keep my canteens clean are either efferdent or polident tabs they do a good job of cleaning, just rinse well before using......
@midnightsailor1
@midnightsailor1 3 жыл бұрын
I find i like the old GI style plastic or metal and the flat handle cup. The flat handle cup has a slot in it so you can insert a bayonet tip in it and have an extended length handle ...also it will string onto the GI mess kit along with the GI utensils so you can dunk the hold kit and caboodle into a garbage can full of hot soapy water swish it around , move down to the next can full of clean water to rinse and you clean your whole set up with a couple of dunkings....very efficient when you got a line of busy GI's waiting to clean their dinner mess.
@greywuuf
@greywuuf 3 жыл бұрын
Man I am blessed. Hunting, hiking, camping.. growing up in the North west we never carried water. Fast moving streams were everywhere and that is all we did. If we were thirsty we would stop and drink. My dad got fancy one year and had a collapsible cup ....to make it easy ....but that was as close to water "prep" I ever knew
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
where i live has been called the amazon of America it is full of streams rivers and the like ..but none of it is safe to drink straight up..with cows and livestock every where run off in every heavy rain..you got to carry and filter /
@gud2go50
@gud2go50 Жыл бұрын
I have several of the old plastic military canteens left over from my time in the Corps. Another drawback to them is they taste like old stale plastic. So I just ordered 4 of the Nalgene type because of what you said in another video about using boiling water in them. Thanks.
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 Жыл бұрын
i really like mine and since they can handle hot water it makes it easy to clean them
@gregvose4281
@gregvose4281 3 жыл бұрын
Use rare earth magnets to keep the stove and cup together when cooking.
@james_lessick892
@james_lessick892 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea thanks 👍
@OldNavajoTricks
@OldNavajoTricks 3 жыл бұрын
Bag of 40 micro magnets off Amazon, don't take up much room but have many uses. Drill a tiny hole though the centres when you get them. Uses I've pondered include, Tent mesh/door closures. Fishing weights. Tackle security/finding dropped hooks. Drop one into your waterbag to help pull any metals out before filtering/treating etc, I'm sure there are more uses others can think of 👍
@gldsmith61
@gldsmith61 3 жыл бұрын
As always, lots of info, need to know stuff, great vid, thanks Bubba.
@grabjrnskallby4118
@grabjrnskallby4118 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a really good review of canteens. I’ve got an old Boy Scout style round canteen my wife got me. I rarely use it because it’s heavy and cumbersome and wraps over my shoulder, adding weight on one shoulder. But, I love that the Pathfinder canteens are so versatile and well manufactured. I like their stuff. Good video, and don’t worry about the aircraft noises, you did good!
@barrycartner3855
@barrycartner3855 2 жыл бұрын
Mt first was the old rectangle shaped BSA canteen with the resd nylon cover. Held 2 qt if memory serves me correctly. Heavy to tote on a waist belt back in the day
@margaretadler6162
@margaretadler6162 2 жыл бұрын
Blackie, I've got all the canteen stuff that you have. But I use the Grayl, the Nalgene, and the pathfinder canteen cook set the most. And I agree with you that the Grayl is well worth the money! The Nalgene is top notch! As is the pathfinder canteen cook set. Thank you for confirming my thoughts on this gear! BTW I liked it better when you called your Nalgene canteen a Nagalene canteen! It just goes with your Southern accent and Southern style! ATB Sam Adler from Vietnam P.s great informative video as usual for your channel.
@boomshanka8743
@boomshanka8743 3 жыл бұрын
I had a pathfinder set and had trouble with a leaking lid. I have gone back to my Nalgene canteen and USGI canteen cup and stove, but I also carry a Snow Peak titanium Sierra cup which weighs under a gram. Snow peak make beautiful titanium stuff, the Sierra cup is like jewelry. They can also be engraved if you are giving a gift to someone special.
@deansch6089
@deansch6089 3 жыл бұрын
Reach out to Pathfinder and let them know. THey'll replace it. The customer service there is absolutely first rate.
@WarGrrl3
@WarGrrl3 3 жыл бұрын
I can't afford titainium but I'd have an entire ti cooking set if I could.
@olleaberg7271
@olleaberg7271 Жыл бұрын
These American canteens is so similar to what the Swedish military uses today. So cool to see!
@frydemwingz
@frydemwingz 2 жыл бұрын
I remember one time I went to the mess decks and had a bright idea to put grape juice into my canteen. We had these huge cartons of grape juice in there for some reason. My water had a faint taste of that juice for an entire deployment even when I rinsed it out with boiling water. I was afraid to use soap because I thought it would absorb that soap flavor too. Only use water in those lol. Maybe some drink mixes arent that strong and it doesnt happen but damn.
@kpex7509
@kpex7509 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr Thomas. Great hat , great video 😊
@i_am_a_freespirit
@i_am_a_freespirit Жыл бұрын
Another good Video. Thank you
@baronedipiemonte3990
@baronedipiemonte3990 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great video to go with my morning coffee. Can't overlook the "simple" things which can often be one of the most important
@OldNavajoTricks
@OldNavajoTricks 3 жыл бұрын
It's the little things that'll kill you...
@davidnachbaur6805
@davidnachbaur6805 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Blackie. I have the PFT canteen set. I guess I'll have to get the grail. Thanks again for everything
@CastawayHikes
@CastawayHikes 3 жыл бұрын
I just switched to 2, 1 liter Smart Water bottles using my Sawyer and I'm not looking back. I'm not trying to go full ultralight but I'm definitely trying to go lightweight these days
@puma51921
@puma51921 3 жыл бұрын
Hiked 900 miles v of ATM with just this. Carried 2 bottles .
@puma51921
@puma51921 3 жыл бұрын
AT
@LShapedAmbush
@LShapedAmbush 9 ай бұрын
The GI molle canteen pouch fits the Pathfinder canteen with cup and stove. It doesn't have insulation but it does have the two handy pockets.
@andrewbarker1775
@andrewbarker1775 2 ай бұрын
If what you say is true, I'm about to purchase them both. You answered my question and made a sale for someone.
@LShapedAmbush
@LShapedAmbush 2 ай бұрын
@@andrewbarker1775 The Pathfinder canteen set comes with a copy of the GI Molle pouch. It might suit your needs. I like the GI pouch better but you could buy the canteen first and see if you like the pouch that comes with it.
@vincentwesley6343
@vincentwesley6343 3 жыл бұрын
I am definitely gonna have to try the efferdent trick, I woulda never thought of that. Thanks for sharing Blackie.
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
Any time!
@tramontane3239
@tramontane3239 3 жыл бұрын
Pathfinder sells lids for G.I. cups and for six bucks expands the G.I. system considerably. The problem with dirty canteens is from food, drinking while eating and bleach Iodine will not clean grease and food sludge. The same carrier for your Nigene canteen you showed will fit Pathfinder kit, at least mine does anyway, and thus makes the bigger kit less bulky. Thanks for the video.
@Wendy-op3bu
@Wendy-op3bu 3 жыл бұрын
😏
@davidmehaffey9134
@davidmehaffey9134 3 жыл бұрын
As always, I totally enjoy your videos. Thank you
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
thanks
@jwatson15
@jwatson15 2 жыл бұрын
I have a pathfinder canteen. I converted an east German ak mag pouch into a belt pouch for it. The fit is really tight but it works.
@maxlutz3674
@maxlutz3674 Жыл бұрын
Good information in that video. I use a Nalgene canteen and a stainless steel canteen cup with a cover similar to yours. In the outside pockets I carry a pot stand for the Trangia stove and a lighter. I am happywith this setup. The transparent canteen is also easier to keep clean as I can see the dirt. At home I use stainless steel balls for cleaning. That works very well and does not damage the canteen.
@jeffrichards5106
@jeffrichards5106 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Blackie, I have the Pathfinder canteen set as well as the Nalgene canteen and military canteens. I settled on the setup like you have.with the Nalgene canteen, military canteen cup and stove with the Molle canteen/utility pouch. I like the Pathfinder set but it's heavy, like you said. Just wish I could find a lid that would fit my military canteen cup. I have several cook kits, but I keep going back to the canteen cook set. 👍
@waynehendrix4806
@waynehendrix4806 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome talk Blackie. Thank you.
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening
@nickcasolino8903
@nickcasolino8903 2 жыл бұрын
Blackie, with the Pathfinder canteen stove, If you turn it upside down and put the fish mouth spreader across it, you have a fire bowl ready to cook you a meal without burning the forest down or destroy your stove by cutting off the grill. I use it that way also with my alcohol burner a Trangia knockoff. I posted some pics on the Pathfinder site the Pathfinder Canteen Cooking Set review if you are interested to see. Thx
@oldminer5387
@oldminer5387 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Blackie, thank you.
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@karolynrice6267
@karolynrice6267 2 жыл бұрын
very informative video. I have not yet been able to find the Nalgene canteen. I've looked on Amazon and they have every other variation on bottles.
@Flashahol
@Flashahol 3 жыл бұрын
Canteen talk... isn't that like hanging around the water bottle at work, while talking about the water bottle?
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
lol yep you could say that
@meccagold2009
@meccagold2009 3 жыл бұрын
I have a titanium cup from a tea press with the smaller grail bottle nested. It's great to have the smaller lighter option to carry if you also have a ti canteen set.
@robertmaxwell3220
@robertmaxwell3220 Жыл бұрын
Another great video.Thanx!Now I'm gonna scrinch me up some bacon for breakfast,get this this fine day movin'!😅
@maverick4462
@maverick4462 2 жыл бұрын
Sure can relate to the need for heating implement for aches an pains. I usually use rocks. For funk in my canteens denture cleanser works well to freshen them up.
@semperfi-1918
@semperfi-1918 Жыл бұрын
I use my military cup every day for my hot cocoa and coffee. Also i use the plastic surplus bottle daily for drinking water at work. I just drain all water and refill daily. Doesnt smell or anything. And your right gotta keep from freezing but during cold climate when we carried it we kept them at 1/2 -3/4 full so they dont crack or break.
@ceri1796
@ceri1796 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Blackie, thankyou
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@robertmiller2629
@robertmiller2629 2 жыл бұрын
I like the cup and stove set for the pathfinder canteen by t have a stably steel canteen and hive found that the canteen cup and stove fit it pretty well plus with the 2 stage lid one for easy drinking and the other for cleaning or heating water, ECT it works great I had to modify mine a little bit but it works.
@williamolliges2622
@williamolliges2622 Жыл бұрын
I recommend acquiring an extra molle canteen cover. Use two shoulder straps from a 2 qt canteen (or equivalent; I used LAPG straps) and attach to cover making a neck strap and chest strap. This makes a great snivel gear bag when you are hauling a pack. Not recommended for hunting because it rides where binos would normally rest. I carry trail mix, Copenhagen, small headlamp, and compass in mine.
@lonestarprepper0156
@lonestarprepper0156 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding information. Thanks.
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@timlacy2284
@timlacy2284 3 жыл бұрын
Blackie, Thanks for another Great Video on canteen and gear. You are the Master Woodsman and Bushcrafter. Thanks again Tim L.
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly
@DougShoeBushcraft
@DougShoeBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Good point- Canteens can get funky. So, often I'll wash out juice bottles (etc) and use those as canteens. They're clear so I can see any sediment or nastiness inside. Many have wide mouths. They're free. And when they get funky, I throw them in the trash. Many bottled water containers are thin (near paper thin) so those are not good to re-purpose as canteens. Fruit juice bottles are usually very rugged. Gaiter aid bottles are also tough, and many others.
@tracker5849
@tracker5849 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 Stanley stainless cleanable canteens and on old plastic canteen. One stanley is in a helicon tex kit bag...the other two are in military canteen pouches..with stoves and cups...also have the lifesaver liberty filter and a Sawyer squeeze and regular sawyer...also an emergency lifestraw
@stephanbotha2974
@stephanbotha2974 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Blacky, what we’ve done to the plastic canteen, to clean it when it gets a bit funky (as you said), is use a bit of toothpaste and a bit of water and shake it… works very well.
@Gneiss365
@Gneiss365 5 ай бұрын
Good comparison. Thank you. Great point about the evaporative cooling of fleecy the canvas cover. I've been thinking of getting one of the Boundless Voyage titanium canteen cup sets. It has 2 cups - a short and a tall that nest, and a lid that fits both, so some good cooking options. You can get a set with a titanium canteen, but I was thinking of the nalgene one. No stove in the kit though, so a folding stick stove could be a good option for a lighter weight set.
@mattsmith6828
@mattsmith6828 10 ай бұрын
I agree that the Grayl is really nice. Even though I already have a cooking pot, I think I'll also add the Pathfinder canteen to my bag as well. Not having clean water in an unfamiliar area gives me goosebumps.
@Kayakwinds
@Kayakwinds 2 жыл бұрын
Most interesting. In Nam, nobody in my platoon ever was issued the stove. We just used a "church h key" to make a tin can stove. Thanks for a excellent video.
@josephrogers8213
@josephrogers8213 2 жыл бұрын
You can cut vents in box place vented cans in box and light put on glove aka pot holder . P38 open can enjoy. Shoe boxes make great cookers just vent
@fishingunboxingsandreveiws7226
@fishingunboxingsandreveiws7226 7 ай бұрын
Ive had a great shoulder Dr.Had both replaced. Now pain free!
@Edward2092009
@Edward2092009 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video as usually
@Cozy_Camp_Fire
@Cozy_Camp_Fire 3 жыл бұрын
Added 1 cup marks to my Nalgene by scratching the side with the tip of my knife.
@carlcarlamos9055
@carlcarlamos9055 3 жыл бұрын
Used to have a cast aluminum U.S. canteen with metal top on chain. Had it when I was a kid, so must have been Korean War or WWII.
@garywhelansr5602
@garywhelansr5602 3 жыл бұрын
Great tips .. Blackie if ya cant afford the Grayl you can get a Sawyer mini system along with a filtering bag works for me. Yes them Grayls are nice no doubt. 👍
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
Right on
@floydsmith2296
@floydsmith2296 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to come and comment to this video. Blackie, I have been enjoying your videos for quite awhile. I even say ,"Pruusk" instead of "Prusik" in your honor! Hahaha Anyway, it's difficult to come up with new, original content. You did that and more with this video. I learned much! Thank you. I bought a couple of Millbank bags from some dude in England and I will be using them with my Grayl much per your suggestions. I had no idea that Grayl would nest into that stanley pot like that. Keep up the good work and thanks for all that you do.
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
glad to be of help..safe journeys to you
@Wendy-op3bu
@Wendy-op3bu 3 жыл бұрын
Black rifle Coffees !!
@Wendy-op3bu
@Wendy-op3bu 3 жыл бұрын
Black rifle makes a delicious cold coffee beverage in a can 3 bucks a can 12 oz. Two or three times the caffeine content added 7 g of protein low sugar and it is soooo smooth
@adampotraffke2134
@adampotraffke2134 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love my canteen .it's awesome
@Tony-zp8xn
@Tony-zp8xn 3 жыл бұрын
Nalgene Oasis bottles are the way to go. When cleaning it, don't neglect the threading of the cap and bottle. Run a swab through the threading on each to clean them up. My cup preference is the Heavy Cover titanium cup with lid. Sheds some weight over the USGI stainless and has the addition of the lid.
@josephdixon1827
@josephdixon1827 3 жыл бұрын
You can add hot water to the U.S. G.I canteen too clean it out, I have, I also use White Vinegar with the hot water. Rinse thoroughly and let dry, if time is afforded.
@deusvult7559
@deusvult7559 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that...can the water actually be boiling? I've got two of them and I don't want to let them go.
@josephdixon1827
@josephdixon1827 3 жыл бұрын
@@deusvult7559 Yes, just do not boil it in the plastic G.I. Canteen. Pour it in halfway full then add the white vinger, close that cap wearing gloves and shake it vigorously. Then let it sit for a few minutes, then pour it back out, rinse thoroughly with cold water and allow to dry. Oh, and your welcome.
@MichaelR58
@MichaelR58 3 жыл бұрын
Good video , thanks for sharing , God bless !
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Cetok01
@Cetok01 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using a Grayl for the past year also. Standard equipment as far as I'm concerned. I do pre=strain water using my kerchief, and always clear the filter2 or 3 times after use. Haven't neede3d my backup filter yet either.
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 2 жыл бұрын
i am on my second yr with mine i always filter first and its made a huge deference.. i live with red clay in the water it will plug up a filter like concrete but if i pre filter it does not and thus longer filter life
@woodsinme
@woodsinme 2 жыл бұрын
Sheer wizardry. More please.
@Hoonozit
@Hoonozit 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Blackie for the canteen video.
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
You bet
@barrycartner3855
@barrycartner3855 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy my two 1945 / 1953 military canteens, cup, and the 1956 covers.
@benterwellen
@benterwellen 3 жыл бұрын
Just picked up on eBay two of those french canteen covers with 48oz canteen and cup. $18.95 plus shipping
@OldNavajoTricks
@OldNavajoTricks 3 жыл бұрын
I have maybe 4 little rollup bottles with clips for smaller water runs 500ml each, drop half a puritab in one and it's ready when needed but I'm not tempted to lug litres around unneccessarily, two 2l bladders for a more settled set up at destination. Edit* 2x stanley sets for the cooking duties, only one cup in each.
@JJ-JOHNSON
@JJ-JOHNSON 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Blackie.
@herbsmith6871
@herbsmith6871 3 жыл бұрын
I've got 4 usgi canteen sets, have went to the nalgene bottle's for all, Outstanding, I also have the Pathfinder round stainless set with the shoulder bag, outstanding as well. Can't go wrong with either. Still trying to talk myself into the Grayl 🤠
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
they not cheap..but i am very happy with mine
@mickbeck2666
@mickbeck2666 3 жыл бұрын
Unparalleled water quality
@user-sr5wg8pf4s
@user-sr5wg8pf4s 2 жыл бұрын
Тоже использую две фляги одну металлическую другую пластиковаю ещё ни разу не пожалел об этом.👍👍😁
@glenmo1
@glenmo1 Жыл бұрын
To clean inside of old stainless gi canteen..put some dishwashing liquid ..dawn works good ..puta handful or 2 of steel BBs inside pour in hot / boiling water ..close & shake shake ..shake
@OtherThanIntendedPurpose
@OtherThanIntendedPurpose 3 жыл бұрын
I had that plastic canteen for the whole 10 years I was in. you never wanted to have to drink with the chemical mask straw.... they were NASTY, I wish that Kleen Kanteen had existed when I was in, having 40 oz of water, in something I could set in a fire would have been a game changer. some times when we would spend several weeks out in places with no resupply, we would have to try to clean out plastic canteens in the field, and it really sucked. all that being said, the ARMY sets are really well designed for what they were, and what they knew back then.
@eturnerx
@eturnerx 3 жыл бұрын
On a belt/suspenders, I prefer the British Pat58 unfortunately I don't have a metal cup for it. I use the USGI plastic canteens for slim packs or on the dog's harness. For overnighters I've been using Grayl and a Pathfinder Bottle and nesting cup.
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
the video posting today will go over the type 58 lots of people called me out for that lol
@chibbacurley62
@chibbacurley62 Жыл бұрын
I like the round arctic aluminum ones from the 80s
@Plain-Ole-Chuck
@Plain-Ole-Chuck 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty extensive review !!!!
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@tm71100
@tm71100 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. If you had a link to the Pathfinder I would use it.
@smd482000
@smd482000 3 жыл бұрын
nice and thank for the tip on the cover for the pathfinder kit but I one complaint about the canteen the lid leaks any figure how stop it!
@scotthibbs
@scotthibbs 3 жыл бұрын
For most containers that might leak (small containers for air travel, various glass jars, or for storing powders etc.) close the top tight over a large piece of plastic wrap. It makes almost any container air tight and leak proof plus it's cheap, and reusable.
@jeremymoses7401
@jeremymoses7401 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, ive got everyone of those there minus the grayle 🤣 including the old GAK. Biggest downfall to the GAK in my opinion is the the mouth, definatly the smallest of any i have. I get torn on my cup handles though, not a fan of the "L's", i like my butterflies. But, i can conceed that they are superior in terms of cooking ease and function.
@RiverBankViking
@RiverBankViking 8 күн бұрын
Blackie, it's always a pleasure to watch your videos. I appreachiate your work. You've got so many really handy tips. In my case I use a Pathfinder stainless steel canteen with the cup minus the stove. As I've written on a live stream of yours, I combine it with the german Esbit folding cooker by the Bundeswehr. I mostly don't use it with Esbit dry burning bricks but I've found a screwable flat can, which I filled with soot-free burning paste. I guess in the states you can get it by walmart in the kitchen/cooking departure. For table stoves like Raclette or tea stoves. The can is from amazon and fits into the Esbit folding cooker perfecly, instead of the Esbit bricks. The paste in the can is cheap. On top less in volume and saver than an alcohol stove because of its consistency (in my opinion). And instead of the original burning bricks, by its can lid extinguishable and relightable. I made some additional clip-on wind shields for both sides of the folding cooker from an aluminium metal plate that I bought at a hardware store. That's everything I need for making a tea, coffee or a simple soup. The Esbit cooker fits into a side pocket of my canteen bag. If I take an alcohol stove with me, I put the Esbit folding cooker sideways on the ground and set the alcohol stove in it and the cup on top. Heard of that trick before? But I think you've got a bit more solid solution by the bottomless aluminium stove which acts as a ring around the canteen and its cup, that you click below the cup by pressing it a little. Does it fit around the pathinder cup as well instead of the original US cup? This solution of yours has less weight than the Pathinder stove, because aluminium instead of stainless steel is lighter as we all know. So I prefere your way, over Mr Canterburys stove in this combination, but haven't tried it out so far. My equipment focuses on reducing weight, durability, less volume... and the reason of the pathfinder canteen over a nalgene is the more simple cleaning at home by a brush into its wide mouth opening, and that the bottle can be made bacteria-free by cooking during a trip, directly in the wilderness, without water purification tablets. Sorry for this extreme long comment. All my best wishes and respect from Germany to you, and thumbs up. River Bank Viking ...hope I didn't make too many mistakes on the english language ;)
@michaelgrant3619
@michaelgrant3619 3 жыл бұрын
Pathfinder now has a Titanium model. I would be interested in a review of that.
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
i will have to check that out
@anthonygomez446
@anthonygomez446 Жыл бұрын
Got 4 army canteen's and 4 cups love em light too
@Flashahol
@Flashahol 3 жыл бұрын
Katadyn has cleaning tablets for water bottles but It takes a few hours to work and you want to rinse that multiple times afterwards. I could see that used overnight for a dirty water bottle. If it's your clean bottle, you'll need to filter a lot of water just to rinse that out properly.
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
good to know thanks
@frankalvarez7387
@frankalvarez7387 3 жыл бұрын
Check out the Yugo Mess Kit it is really compact and worth the money too
@shastaham7630
@shastaham7630 3 жыл бұрын
Soaking an army canteen cover to cool the canteen was a cool (pardon the pun) concept IF you did not plan on carrying the canteen on your belt. In practice, the wet cover would dampen any clothing it touched, and damp clothing could cause chafing. I tried it on a 20 mile hike (1964) and ended up with sufficiently severe chafing to require sick call. Roughly 25-30% of out basic training company required a liberal dose of very messy salve.
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
very true..but here in my south with temps close to 100 and humidity to match your soaking wet anyway..the canteen cover gets wet from my sweat..i have soaked it and also soaked my shirt to help cool me off on hikes in the summer
@shastaham7630
@shastaham7630 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackoracle69: True, I've carried a G.I. Issue canteen in LA (Natchitoches Parish) and was totally soaked shortly after stepping outdoors. I guess the chafing was also the result of having the canteen bouncing on my hip for an extended period of time. I didn't have any problems when the weather was cold and the canteen was carried tightly against my waist over a field jacket.
@mumbles1justin
@mumbles1justin 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been carrying the 24oz Grayl for a couple months now. But the first hike I used it on I underestimated its holding capacity do to its size and almost got myself in trouble on a 11 mile two day hike. I knew I had lake access at 5.5 mile, then 3 mile from their, then another 2.5 from there. Luckily it started raining that first night and was able to gather water off my tarp other wise I would have been screwed. The moral here is the Grayl is the best filter Ive ever used. I love that when you filter lake water it tastes like store bought bottled water and no fishy taste. But make sure you always bring a Nalgene or some kind of water storage container and not rely on just the Grayl. I know this whole scenario was dumb on my part but maybe someone can learn from my stupidity.
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
thats how i run the grayl is the perfect fill up but i still carry a canteen on long trips
@simonwinwood
@simonwinwood 3 ай бұрын
@paint1016
@paint1016 Жыл бұрын
I run the nalgene bottle with the old canvas cover. Although I am missing the stove
@H8FULL1
@H8FULL1 Жыл бұрын
You must be out near a hospital. That flight pattern sounds familiar . I've been on a lazy lookout for a decent canteen cook set.
@manletopia4801
@manletopia4801 2 жыл бұрын
get the 2qt usgi canteen and take a look at the 5 qt ones
@Wendy-op3bu
@Wendy-op3bu 3 жыл бұрын
NEW FAV CHANNEL
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@davegoodridge8352
@davegoodridge8352 3 жыл бұрын
A smart water bottle and a Sawyer filter works well for day hikes.
@camojoe83
@camojoe83 3 жыл бұрын
Mmmm, plastic splinters...
@davegoodridge8352
@davegoodridge8352 3 жыл бұрын
@@camojoe83 Hum?
@twhite19782012
@twhite19782012 Жыл бұрын
What is the “multi bag” pre filter that you mention?
@nickcasolino8903
@nickcasolino8903 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the butterfly handle than the clipped handle cup. Many time the clip of the cup unclipped itseIlf and spilled all my food into the fire. I changed all my canteen cups to butterfly handle canteen cups.. I'm still pissed. LOL
@Wendy-op3bu
@Wendy-op3bu 3 жыл бұрын
Lived off grid Northeast Washington state for a year and a half. Snow melt from the garage roof 20 acres of wet wet wildland.. sometimes after like an hour and a half my coffee was water starting to boil and the whole thing spilled on the fire sometimes it would take me over 2 hours to make a hot cup of coffee
@baronedipiemonte3990
@baronedipiemonte3990 3 жыл бұрын
And if done carefully, you can cross two sticks in the "wings" in an " X " to lift the cup out of the fire.
@edwardschofield6692
@edwardschofield6692 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Blackie.another good video.I have Pathfinder bottle cook set,Lg Grayl,need to get the mill bag.Rocket stove couple hankies, fero rod stuffed in bag. I was also using Xtra light weight Al.water bottle.I didn't realize the nigelene would take boiling water.I will have to tweek mine. Stay safe have fun out there.
@williamdroom5789
@williamdroom5789 2 жыл бұрын
I've had 2 Oasis nalgene canteens on back order from Optics Planet for some time. I don't know if they have stopped production or what. Do you know of a supplier that has any?
@mrwdpkr5851
@mrwdpkr5851 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know I can put boiling water in my Nalgene . Thanks for the info .
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
it is rated for dishwasher and that really close i have poured boiling water in to mine a few times and it works fine..leave the lid loose till it cools a bit
@wisenber
@wisenber 3 жыл бұрын
Lexan Nalgene bottles can withstand almost 300 degrees F. If the water is still in liquid form, it won't come close to damaging it.
@richardhugger9903
@richardhugger9903 3 жыл бұрын
Joes Army Navy store has them.
@Drpermer
@Drpermer 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. The only military canteen I have used is the soft 2 qrt. It's a really nice rig, but if water gets really warm, you get a rubber taste which is really awful. I've soaked it in vinegar, which makes it usable again, but any idea if one could permanently eliminate this problem? Thanks!
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
some of those just seem to be that way i have one of those my first one was like yours the rubber / plastic taste just would not go away..i bought another one and no problem so ya might wanna drop it on a garage sale and get and buy another one
@baronedipiemonte3990
@baronedipiemonte3990 3 жыл бұрын
My issue 2 qt'r never had that problem. At least not to my "taste"
@ozdavemcgee2079
@ozdavemcgee2079 3 жыл бұрын
I use similar. But I also use British 58 pattern Osprey ones. Same same cooking cup..but they have a huge plastic drinking cup. I have a harness set I swap back n forth. British ones in winter mostly. I also have a harness with a bumb pack and 4 nalgene round bottles. Takes less room on the belt. I can get a gas stove a gas bottle underneath. The canvas covers we were issued in Australia are way better. It has kind of like thick moving blanket lining. If you freeze a bottle pug it in, summer 44°c all day 12 14 hr later, youll get 100ml out of it, the rest is ice. Clearly not good but it just demonstrates the insulations effectiveness. Our issue bottles are a bit different to. They can take hot water. Way thicker green plastic than US ones. I also use cheap very thin stainless bottles. 1lt weigh near nothing. Just in backpack they weigh nothing when you have used that first. TBH if I was starting, Id just buy nalgene plactic bottles a titanium cup and maxperdition type pouches cheap ones off ebay. There are numerous stove oprions gas, trangia and pit stands if you want to burn twigs. Military issue sure its tough, a few glory days memories, but tough is heavy;as is Pathfinder gear
@jotsingh8917
@jotsingh8917 3 жыл бұрын
Great view. What about the Keith Titanium Canteen Mess. Ok expensive, but as a life time investment?
@blackoracle69
@blackoracle69 3 жыл бұрын
have not tried one but the weight savings might make it a good choice
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