3 Basic Betting Mistakes Most Amateurs Don't Know About

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Most poker amateurs don't even know that they are making these 3 basic betting mistakes. Avoid making these 3 common mistakes.
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@BlackRain79Poker
@BlackRain79Poker 2 жыл бұрын
Do you make any of these betting mistakes? Also, make sure you never call with these 3 hands (Costing you money!) kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYPXc4GvfLJoZpo
@losyart
@losyart 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i probably not 3barreling enough when i probably should !!! to fold them off that middle pair or top pair weak kicker although on low and micros Top pair weak kicker is mostly called down so u need to pick right player watching showdowns and so on
@youtubegregg
@youtubegregg 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with all of them but it depends on the opponents. If I have notes on players who are calling stations or who will call down every bet I will limp in in early position with AQ or AJ. If I miss the flop and bet they will call you down if they make any pair, so I fold. If I hit the A one or two will be playing weak A and you can pretty much go all in cause they will not let go of weak ace and pound em. What do you think? Every situation I make depends on how much info I have.
@cyberMike242
@cyberMike242 Жыл бұрын
there will be some exceptions: like limping with KK UTG on hyper aggressive table...
@lyndastewart
@lyndastewart Жыл бұрын
Ok but I'm curious to know do u still apply these principles with a 7 duece off Suite or some equally shitty cards? Just asking I love your videos, thanks
@curtbizz9610
@curtbizz9610 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff, my man! I was playing 1-2 NL in Vegas the other day and nearly every player at the table was limping into pots. I played pretty tight and overly aggressive In the hands I saw and walked away with a nice profit.
@pitchbuckets2860
@pitchbuckets2860 2 жыл бұрын
Same 1-2 games that always have to be opened at 12$ yet the table gets mad because people want these huge family pots smh.
@fabian13333
@fabian13333 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh good old live 1-2 i beat them regularly and I can olny beat micro stakes online I am a bad reg. But now its illegal in my County
@malazuth3306
@malazuth3306 2 жыл бұрын
Aggression is good. Being a maniac and turning into a bluff every marginal medium hand is a wonderful strategy... for the opponents.
@rugbywhisperer-coachkane3038
@rugbywhisperer-coachkane3038 2 жыл бұрын
Sooooo after running terribly a few years back.. so I gave up... couldn't afford these losses. Went back yesterday.. did everything you are supposed to do.. flopped QQJ holdQJ... money all in and got rivered with an opponent holding AQ... what a shit game... never going back
@downieduck2414
@downieduck2414 2 жыл бұрын
in low stakes cash if you raise it 2.5 to 3 in many games you will get 4 plus callers - not what you want -- basically you gotta thin the field so keep raising till you only play against 1 or 2
@vecter
@vecter Жыл бұрын
Then you should tighten up b/c you're playing against loose players. You should capitalize big when you've got it against them. They'll call you down.
@troystevens6513
@troystevens6513 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all the great videos and lessons. They have helped my game out more than I could have ever even imagined.
@BlackRain79Poker
@BlackRain79Poker 7 ай бұрын
No prob, glad my poker videos are helping you!
@EricA-xd9fn
@EricA-xd9fn 2 жыл бұрын
This is solid advice. What I would add, that is referenced briefly, is when you first settle in at a table *modulate* your opening raises/bets to see where these specific players' "risk tolerance" is. For example, in Texas a 3x or 4x (BB) open at a Cash table generally leaves you 4-way or worse heading into a Flop. That's not where you want to be.
@dango470
@dango470 2 жыл бұрын
In this situation is seems like tightening up early pos and 3 betting more from late pos seems like the correct adjustment?
@kobecoleman5882
@kobecoleman5882 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is that in online poker, everyone limps for some reason, so if I tried to 3 bet on the button, everyone would call me again. It would be seven way on the flop at some points, and bring aggressive isn't profitable because someone's essentially going to be guaranteed to hit the flop when I miss it
@dango470
@dango470 2 жыл бұрын
@@kobecoleman5882 sounds like you are playing really soft games. What stake and what site? I would just play as a mass table nit(ty tag) and take advantage of it. Raise with strong hands, bet big, shove on nuts etc
@kobecoleman5882
@kobecoleman5882 2 жыл бұрын
@@dango470 It's just the WSOP app King ranked tables. The stakes are 50K/25K. It's definitely inflated. I was being a nit, and I agree that being a nit is definitely the correct long term strategy. I was just wondering if there was anything I was doing wrong that makes them call my raises.
@GrowFromHome
@GrowFromHome 2 жыл бұрын
@@kobecoleman5882 that’s play money poker…not the same…
@klmorg63
@klmorg63 2 жыл бұрын
Love playing against this type of aggressive player, easy to lose small pots, but even easier to win monster pots!
@TheLirJEt86
@TheLirJEt86 Жыл бұрын
facts
@D.Jackson141
@D.Jackson141 2 жыл бұрын
Tip one, there are times when you can limp pre-flop when first in and be profitable. I.e. you have AA, KK utg and you are at an aggressive table. Limp and then punish the raisers. There are other examples but nothing is 100% in poker.
@andrewberdahl9922
@andrewberdahl9922 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who is barely paying attention will know a limp raise is almost always AA or KK. I've folded QQ and AK to limp raises before. If you are limp raising AA or KK you need some bluffs too like A5s to balance but no one does that.
@TheLirJEt86
@TheLirJEt86 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewberdahl9922 I actually will do that, A5 suited to players who raise instantly if they see someone call because im still probably ahead of their range and probably 30% chance to win or better vs like a suited KQ. or limp raise small pairs. the new generation loves to go all in with the low pairs. I don't mind calling or raising, I switch it up but sometimes you can even it out with those low PPs.
@TheLirJEt86
@TheLirJEt86 Жыл бұрын
100% right. no 100% in poker but I do like standardizing raises but every tournament and table is different. usually between 2-4x. 3 bets, hard to stay standard because than its about pot size. but I love the idea of limp and then punish the raisers.
@FLgrinda77
@FLgrinda77 Жыл бұрын
This will work sometimes but most thinking players will just fold after you limp UTG and then Back raise. It’s almost always AA. Start doing that with AT A5s as well if you choose this route
@kristopherkerry7524
@kristopherkerry7524 Жыл бұрын
I will also limp with say 89suited so that I don't get 3bet and have to fold. If you have a speculative hand and want to make sure to see the flop, it's not a bad strategy to open limp....
@xd-metal9026
@xd-metal9026 Жыл бұрын
I hope your never limp strategy only applies for premium/speculative hands and not for all hands. Anybody always raising preflop as you say, will see their stack reduced to no chips at all in no time.
@StackworksCustom
@StackworksCustom Жыл бұрын
He was specific at the beginning to say not to “open limp” as in limp in as the first caller of the blinds. But he does get lazy at the end and just says not to limp. Limping to other limps is fine for more speculative hands, I think.
@Untergrundhase
@Untergrundhase Жыл бұрын
U didnt understand it. Look at his cheet sheat, after that u will get it
@24magiccarrot
@24magiccarrot 2 жыл бұрын
It should be pointed out that this is just a baseline strategy against unknowns and is useful against the field at large, but adjustments should be made depending on the players at your table. At looser tables tighten your opening range and increase your bet size and at tighter tables loosen your opening range and lower your bet size.
@ajhieb
@ajhieb 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. When it comes to betting and aggression in poker there are very few if any "always/never" moves. (Maybe Doyle's "Don't go broke in a limped pot") Anything that you always/never do is exploitable by anybody that pays attention to how you play. If you are paying more attention to how _you_ play than how your opponents are playing you're probably playing losing poker. _Unchecked_ aggression is a great way to build a big stack to eventually give away to somebody else that's paying attention.
@troystevens6513
@troystevens6513 2 жыл бұрын
@@ajhieb you must be watching me play. LOL Unchecked aggression has cost me a lot of money. I am finally figuring this out though. Great feedback!
@BlackRain79Poker
@BlackRain79Poker 7 ай бұрын
Well said!
@genebressler758
@genebressler758 2 жыл бұрын
You have to know when to turn on and turn off aggression....I limp in with small pairs 50 percent of the time, depends my position and how many players in the hand. I want to flop a set with other players holding AK or big pair. Then wait for the payoff on set
@sawyerkw
@sawyerkw 2 жыл бұрын
I play in 1-2 games and preflop bets are usually $12 on the average to see the flop. Do the hands you recommend playing depend more on the pre-flop bet sizing? Thanks
@norcalirishman9413
@norcalirishman9413 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Definitely fixed a huge leak for me 🤝
@BlackRain79Poker
@BlackRain79Poker Жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@edwarddemedeiros3607
@edwarddemedeiros3607 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome advice!
@justinharris7650
@justinharris7650 Жыл бұрын
Yes study in the GTO really effed me up thinking I have to call off with ace king hi N you know some spots it’s helped me but just going back to basic regular Poker you know what I mean keep it simple like bit bigger try to get Pack to meeting when you have a good hands forget all that 1/3 crap like men you know your channel is simple but I like it man it’s like all the fundamentals that we’re supposed to know as poker players but you know we we forget get forgetful sometimes and Nino to say thank you bro but a yeah man the GTO is something else I swear
@samjones3106
@samjones3106 2 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on how many people are in the hand. Sitting there with a pair of 3's against 4 other players you could be in trouble.
@donpickett202
@donpickett202 2 жыл бұрын
These bet sizes won't work in any poker room in Texas. In Texas, 1-2, plays like 2-5, and 2-5 will play like 5-10, it even 10-20. It's not unusual for a 1-3 game to have 10,000 on the table.
@hogi99
@hogi99 2 жыл бұрын
Same thing where I play, 2.5 to 3x gets absolutely nobody to fold and sometimes encourages more callers. I have to do 10x to have a chance to narrow the field.
@branchtana315
@branchtana315 2 жыл бұрын
Texas is obviously an outlier, but the same holds true for low stakes cash games in general. Small opening sizes work in tourneys and in higher stakes games in most places, but not in most 1/2-1/3-2/5 games. Hell, I play in the Midwest where games are generally tight-passive and standard opening sizes are still 5x-6x in 1/2 and 4x-5x in 2/5. I think the main point to be taken away from his tip is just to almost always be coming in for a raise pre-flop. What exactly the sizing is you'll be using, that's going to vary depending on the type of games you play in. Plus the deeper stacks are in cash games, the more you're incentivized to open for larger sizing.
@tylerabbott7108
@tylerabbott7108 Жыл бұрын
Let’s say you don’t limp but raise but then the flop is a total brick for you. Everyone seems to say stay consistent and c bet so you don’t come off as weak post flop. Does this mean you always have to bluff early position if the flop is bad for you? Hope this makes sense
@DrewatBullyBreedBlog
@DrewatBullyBreedBlog Жыл бұрын
This was a really helpful video thanks! I've downloaded PT4 but unsure of the best USA sites for it? Ignition doesn't seem to pull the hand history properly. Looking for a home! Any suggestions?
@BlackRain79Poker
@BlackRain79Poker Жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew glad this one helped you!
@tacomajoe7676
@tacomajoe7676 3 ай бұрын
I love your tips my poker game in WSOP game is 🔥 now lol seriously I’ve never played so well 😊
@BlackRain79Poker
@BlackRain79Poker 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@calirambo7896
@calirambo7896 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are fantastic. Very clear and logical.
@haroldallaberg6359
@haroldallaberg6359 2 жыл бұрын
if you play in texas, people usually raise preflop with 5-10x sizes lol. gotta love those $15-$20 preflop raises in 1-2. premium hands usually 3bet for $25-$100.
@joemaldonado4160
@joemaldonado4160 2 жыл бұрын
Some great information! Your video seems to only address cash game strategies for betting. How would you adjust betting (If at all) when playing tournament style games? Thanks!
@BlackRain79Poker
@BlackRain79Poker 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate the kind words!
@zeewizard7198
@zeewizard7198 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information. Wonder if you make audio books I'd buy it so listen to you talk about poker. Have a good day thank you.
@BlackRain79Poker
@BlackRain79Poker Жыл бұрын
Thanks Zee! I do have a podcast that is available on all the major networks like Spotify or Apple. And I wrote 3 books also, but they are not in audible format yet.
@zeewizard7198
@zeewizard7198 Жыл бұрын
Okay I'm going to check them out. I like your energy. I work the night shifts and I listen to audiobooks while I'm working. I'll listen to a lot of audio books about poker. So if you do decide to do a audio I'll show major support. Thank you for what you do brother.
@a.i.chemist2261
@a.i.chemist2261 2 жыл бұрын
"If he checks you bet. If he bets you bet." - Anne Duke Call down with weak pairs to shutdown bluffing, and bet big hands. She isn't someone you think to study, but her book is fantastic. When I play as she recommends, my opponents are baffled and become a consistently winning player.
@gabrielboily2641
@gabrielboily2641 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely I am less prone to bluff a player if they double float with middle pair or even bottom pair.
@WSPanicFan85
@WSPanicFan85 2 жыл бұрын
I like "The Course" by Ed Miller. I have had good results after reading it and applying some of its logic.
@mountainriver8327
@mountainriver8327 2 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here! Awesome channel!
@martins.208
@martins.208 2 жыл бұрын
I have one question read your artikle aubout Poker HUDs and would like to try your own free version. But when I click on the Link the Link doesn't exsiste. Is there an other way to get your custom HUD? Thanks a lot
@ilya9715
@ilya9715 2 жыл бұрын
I play a lot of live poker. I almost never see 3x initial raise. $10 at 1/2 is minimal
@allendavenport8478
@allendavenport8478 2 жыл бұрын
I have not played live in years old foxwoods player but when I did same
@sarahdeshay1394
@sarahdeshay1394 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that you play in Texas, where not much of his advice would work. If you miss a fop such as 4-5-10 with two suited cards you are almost certainly behind or in severe danger of being outdrawn since there are most times 3 or more callers in a 3- bet pot.
@FLgrinda77
@FLgrinda77 Жыл бұрын
Just a thought half pot bets as a c better on a K 7 3 is a little much IMO 1/4 to 33% are standard
@Riverkingdan
@Riverkingdan 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason for not cbetting 1/3 pot like more people do and bet 1/2 pot instead?
@joeytorres1105
@joeytorres1105 2 жыл бұрын
Limp raise is strong play in the playbook, you have to be good enough to be able to lay down big hands if it wasnt raised tho. 99 percent somebody limp raise early position, they have aces or kings
@kevinlindstrom8486
@kevinlindstrom8486 2 ай бұрын
On the first point, the way I heard that as I started playing is if it's worth playing it's worth raising.
@tanork47
@tanork47 Жыл бұрын
The one thing I learned is in the name of the game. Its called HOLD'em meaning you are betting that you have the best cards in that round. Then if people call it becomes another round of seeing which hand is better. Most 1/2s I have seen is that people are way too tight and will easily fold a medium pair or a good hand to a strong aggressive bet. Gotta know when to fold and know when to holdem
@thedude5599
@thedude5599 2 жыл бұрын
Im a serial limper and I am a consistent winner in live cash games. up 56 000 last year. Thing with limping is you must limp with all ranges disquising your hand. You know how many times I limp early with 89s call a raise flop two pair or gut shot or open ended or top pair and win huge pots from people that that listen to your strategy.. My bread and butter is limp calling then flopping a huge hand and taking a win. i love limping people always tell me im an idiot yet I win more then I lose. You just have to know how to navigate in early late positions. And you have to be willing to make hero calls with bottom pair sometimes.
@clapforboobies5892
@clapforboobies5892 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a vid on when to downbet the flop? I see a lot of youtubers doing this. Thanks.
@douglaslee8512
@douglaslee8512 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Aggression but these bets do need to be looked at versus the type of player you are playing against. NITs calling raises should make you think of a lower C Bet rate while with LAGs maybe you bet to increase your C Bet rate. Of course, I know its hard to know who you are playing against right from the start but recognize tendencies and adjust.
@weiyen
@weiyen 2 жыл бұрын
I think this aggression works when you want the villian to fold against potential draws when the hero has a made hand. When the hero has the nuts you want the villian to call you to get the most value. If the villian is a fish (calling station) bet what ever. But if the villian is a nit then a bit more thought has to go into what to bet to get the extra value
@andrewberdahl9922
@andrewberdahl9922 2 жыл бұрын
Um you got it backwords. Nits you cbet more lags you cbet less.
@weiyen
@weiyen 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewberdahl9922 cbet is fine. I am talking on the higher streets value. Cbet is to get them to fold but you want to get value when you get the nuts and you want them to call.
@andrewberdahl9922
@andrewberdahl9922 2 жыл бұрын
@@weiyen wasnt responding to you sorry. Yea play the player 1 pair is an obvs fold vs a nit but could be a call vs a LAG
@ETWASH
@ETWASH Жыл бұрын
Love the video. Got real confused by mistake #2 - raising 3x IP and 4x OP...this seems backward. Please explain. Thanks!
@SamThorley
@SamThorley Жыл бұрын
Raising bigger out of position encourages your opponent to fold which is ideal as you don't want to be playing big pots out of position 👍
@ETWASH
@ETWASH Жыл бұрын
@@SamThorley Thanks!
@justinbonnici1415
@justinbonnici1415 2 жыл бұрын
Playing live 1/2 cash game, your going to recommend to open to 2.5 and 3x?! Those sizes are horrible for live cash. Dont get me wrong Nathan, online these sizes work fantastic but for live cash these sizes you will just get you run over by the regs.
@socraticmathtutor1869
@socraticmathtutor1869 Жыл бұрын
"Aggressive poker is winning poker" -- Guys, keep in mind that this is mainly true if you're heads up. If you're at a game with 9 players at the table and 5 call pre-flop, aggression in those circumstances is basically tantamount to lighting money on fire (unless you have a very strong hand).
@manic_driver8751
@manic_driver8751 Жыл бұрын
It's not mentioned in the video, but IP, all those limped chips is dead money waiting to be picked up. If you have a hand worth raising, BR suggests adding 1 extra BB for every limped player.
@AcheronLupus1
@AcheronLupus1 6 ай бұрын
Manic is right, 4x bb with IP, 5x bb OOP plus 1 for each limper is the default strategy for these sorts of games
@lography6917
@lography6917 Жыл бұрын
Assuming you bet aggressively the same whether you hit or do not hit, and assuming your opponent calls regardless, since you miss the flip 2/3 times, this seems like a losing strategy over the long run, but I can see how people will obviously fold to your bluffs quite a bit. And sometimes they'll call through to the end and see that you had the nuts, and this also discounts hitting it on the turn and River, which is an advantage of betting on scare cards because if you missed, maybe your opponent equally missed. I'd like to see the act math on this strategy. Of course, assuming you can never limp and then bluff, that mentality could be exploited by limping with aces or something, hitting the flop and check raising. Maybe that's fishy, but if that's how it's seen by the other person and they just hand you their money, then that's good too. I think variance is important, so that ppl never know wtf you have, which expands your possible range - even if you're only playing a small amount of actually hands (Broadway, pairs and suited connectors).
@darrenwatson6667
@darrenwatson6667 2 жыл бұрын
I play on American Card Room. Most of the time raising pre flop causes the table to fold
@ustulo3488
@ustulo3488 Жыл бұрын
AK is a very much a hand that should be played aggressively I agree but if you raise pre-flop and lead out on a missed flop of say 577 or one that say comes out with KTQ and the opposing players won't go away after you fire a half pot bet then it might be time to really look at the fact you might be in trouble if someone has two pair, set, or flopped a straight. Firing a 3/4 pot size on the turn and river in this situation may lead to disaster. AK is a hand you should bully people with but can it can cost you if you're not deciphering why someone is hanging with you on all of those c-bets. Saw a guy today at a tournament c-bet AK all the way to the river without hitting anything on a coordinated flop that took most of his stack.
@Qwufi
@Qwufi Жыл бұрын
I love the thumbnail :D
@vimy1589
@vimy1589 2 жыл бұрын
been watching for a bit .. damn your good !
@ToABrighterFuture
@ToABrighterFuture 2 жыл бұрын
Was in a tournament in AC a few years ago, and there was a guy two seats to my left whose strategy was easily figured out: he'd limp preflop, then bet something gonzo after the flop, no matter what he had. I'm in the BB with King-Jack of Hearts. Gun folds, Gonzo calls, and there may have been a couple of shot takers, but it was limped around. I check my option, flop comes down Queen of Hearts, Ten of Hearts, Seven of Clubs. Hello, two way straight flush draw, and 15 outs. I check into Gonzo, he puts me in for about a quarter of my stack, and everyone else ducks out. I call, and the turn is a 2 of Spades. Cuss word. I check, Gonzo puts me in for about half of what I have left. It was enough to get me through another orbit or two if I missed, but hey, 15 outs. I mull it over, and call. River was an ace of hearts. Royal flush. I trap check, and Gonzo's next words were music to my ears: "How much you got?" I said, "Count it," as resignedly as I could manage. It worked. Dealer gave Gonzo my stack size, and he actually overbet it just to show off. I said, "I call, and you lose. Show us your garbage." He was like, oh no... He had nothing, and had missed everything on all five streets. I turned over my royal, and took a bow. So, if I see someone try that strategy--calling station preflop, maniac postflop--then I'll limp along to take a shot at them. The beauty of it is, if I miss, it's a cheap fold; if I hit, Gonzo bets himself into trouble.
@hitman5782
@hitman5782 2 жыл бұрын
When i play in a casino where people call 6bb openings with the same frequency as 2-3bb opens, i prefer to make it as large as possible.
@collegefraud1308
@collegefraud1308 2 жыл бұрын
I know i need to raise more and stop playing as passive. I can always tell when someone thinks they cam bully me and it’s because I give them a reason 😪.
@CPoppaB1tch
@CPoppaB1tch 2 жыл бұрын
1/2 live the raises seem 10 to 15
@EC-pf1tr
@EC-pf1tr 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you 3x from EP when ur more likely to be OOP and only 2.5x from late pos when you play pots IP more often? The fact that you’re raising a wider range doesn’t justify going smaller because you still won’t be 3 bet as often as opening from EP.
@jakobbrun6535
@jakobbrun6535 2 жыл бұрын
If someone is going to 3-bet your EP open, they will likely 3-bet no matter if you 2.5x or 3x, it is the flat callers you want to weed out to ideally max 1. A 2.5x open from EP will make it more appealing to call with a speculative or drawing hand or a small pocket pair, especially if there is an ante. From late position you can get away with opening 2.5x because only the blinds can fight back now, and if they do, you are in position. You want to persuade the big blind to defend with poor hands, giving you an easy C-bet takedown most of the time.
@vecter
@vecter Жыл бұрын
Shouldn't you limp sometimes to balance your range?
@JasonJohnContos
@JasonJohnContos 3 ай бұрын
Can anybody confirm for me if aggressive poker is winning poker please? Thanks in advance
@deananderton
@deananderton 2 жыл бұрын
Great tips. I definitely need to start being more aggressive, I either bet to low or not enough. Couple of questions, 1) playing poker as much as you can, is that even on low buy in games, like $2/$3 games? I play for hours in the evening in different games for not much money. 2) not related to the video, but from what I watch from the pros. I see them often calling raises with cards like 10 4 off suit. Is this a strategy as I see if very often and from a fair few of the pros.
@justinbonnici1415
@justinbonnici1415 2 жыл бұрын
NEVER PLAY 104 OFF LOL ITS LIGHTING MONEY ON FIRE
@Nautilus1972
@Nautilus1972 2 жыл бұрын
Negs plays lowball a lot.
@struck7976
@struck7976 2 жыл бұрын
hey nathan, out of your 1million+ poker hands played, how many royal flushes have you had?
@CPoppaB1tch
@CPoppaB1tch 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing this is heads up strategy
@hymnofashes
@hymnofashes 2 жыл бұрын
Once a tight reg calls your c-bet in a 3-bet pot, you are either being trapped or he does not believe you. Same if he calls an overbet or if he calls a 4-bet. Or calls a postflop raise. You stack off for another 80bb because "I have to have some bluffs" or "my hand picked up equity," you're going to find yourself jamming into a set.
@BuellersBack
@BuellersBack 2 жыл бұрын
Not raising can allow trapping. I do it all the time and it's very profitable.
@Toysoldier9527
@Toysoldier9527 Жыл бұрын
if you have over aggressive player on the table. limping is not a bad choice.
@libertyforamericanow
@libertyforamericanow Жыл бұрын
0:48 pimpin
@enlightenedidiot9552
@enlightenedidiot9552 2 жыл бұрын
If you have good cards, don't let other players see the flop for free...
@-that_guy-1674
@-that_guy-1674 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this tip 🍻
@tanork47
@tanork47 Жыл бұрын
yep my saying is "If everyone wants to come into the pot, then some of your money will have to as well"
@Startedfromthebottompoker
@Startedfromthebottompoker 2 ай бұрын
Everytime i play oop i check in dark before flop puts me in position
@Jo2lentino1981
@Jo2lentino1981 2 жыл бұрын
This kind of strategy don't work when your playing againts newbie or fish players.. they will always call whatever cards they have and sometimes make it a family pot.
@EricA-xd9fn
@EricA-xd9fn 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree, insomuch as *always* opening with a raise off the BB (when you wish to play a hand) empirically leaves you with some % *less* opponents going to the Flop. Less opponents = More Equity. Therefore it is both mathematically and psychologically sound.
@seanbehnken8197
@seanbehnken8197 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with OP and response. U have to judge the players at ur table to exploit their errors.
@bennybeeeee
@bennybeeeee 2 жыл бұрын
If you are in Texas going 6 ways to the flop, just start sizing way the fu@# up. Then you will be going 3 ways to the flop :D
@EricA-xd9fn
@EricA-xd9fn 2 жыл бұрын
@@bennybeeeee My point exactly. Needs to be 7x BB at least. Not kidding.
@JayakrishnanNairOmana
@JayakrishnanNairOmana 2 жыл бұрын
Good video and content, although you should also point out the boundary conditions and not generalize these concepts as "100%" which is incorrect. There are several situations where limping is correct, for example from small blind with some range some of the time as prescribed by preflop gto charts, and also sometimes when the effective stacks are shallow and/or there is a small stack to the left who can three bet shove. Some times in tournaments near bubble to trap/ exploit bullies by limp-3bet shoving a balanced range. Sometimes from UTG with premium hands to trap. Sometimes overlimping if there is an EP limper if you dont want to raise and get re-raised by a trapper, and instead to see a cheap flop in a multiway pot with good implied odds against fish with weaker range of hands that play really well multiway postflop (but are not good enough to raise an EP limper) such as suited medium one gappers. Several others I can think of when limping is correct. But of course you are correct that in a deep stack 6 max cash game it is almost always a mistake to limp (except from SB as GTO charts prescribe, including to limp-3bet a raise from BB). Also the betsize of 50% always on the flop is incorrect. It is very much dependent on the texture of the board and how it connects with your opponents range. Also their hud stats. On K73r board like in your video, the correct betsizing is about 20-35% depending on your opponents' FCB stat on the HUD. NEVER more than 35%. Same logic applies to 554r board, although you can bet slightly higher (~40%). You will also size differently versus opponents that like to bluff raise paired boards. You will need to look at their overall AF and AFq, Flop AF and AFq, as well as WWSF stats. Sometimes if you have a monster that dont need protection (say you flopped a FH or top set etc) you can check back to trap. Sometimes you can balance your flop checks with checking back top pair so your check flop then turn c-bet range is protected. Also to induce bluffs from aggressive opponents depending on their turn AF and AFq stats and once again overall AF and WWSF. On most coordinated boards you want to size up. Sometimes you can overbet flop as Pluribus (the CMU poker bot that bet pros including linuslove at 6max cash) has shown. Also it is always OK to check back some flops you missed to give up, especially if it is very likely to have hit your opponents calling range and you are happy to get to showdown or concede the hand by not putting any more chips (say you have 22 on a AJT monotone of a different suit, there is no reason to bet on any street, and folding is appropriate when your opponent shows any strength). The ability to play post flop is what separates good players from preflop bots at online microstakes. If you are 100% c-betting every flop, good players will start 3betting you light on the flop and you will be thoroughly exploited. You are correct that reraising sizes should be higher OOP than IP but again it has to be balanced between value (AA, KK, AK as you show here) and bluffs (mostly suited broadways and occasionally A5s). If I see you have a high VPIP/PFR and Attempt to Steal stat, I am 3betting you from every position whenever I have a decent spot. I appreciate your video and explaining basic concepts to beginners but you should never say this is "always the case" or must be done 100%. There are always exceptions to everything and in the case of poker those exceptions can be where profit margins lie.
@williamshea4425
@williamshea4425 Жыл бұрын
Start your own thread
@rndnmacc1
@rndnmacc1 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding tip #3 I'm a bit afraid to apply it myself in a case where I DON'T hit the flop. I'm playing in micro stakes rn and the players here are very random, most of the cash I've made so far is thanks to bad players, but for example if I don't nail the flop I'm afraid to bet again, isn't that like saying I willingly went in with a rather bad hand and raised with it preflop? And to follow that, some players in micros are so dumb that I'd absolutely expect them to go in the flop with IDK 6-4 unsuited they would get a pair I'd get nothing but they're too dumb to think they have the weakest pair. Is this where how I play the turn and the river really makes the difference? Can anyone else relate?
@theejayzeeable
@theejayzeeable 2 жыл бұрын
Paragraph 1. If u only bet when u hit the flop, you'll play very predictably and ur flop bets will stop getting called, and you'll minimize profit. A good player makes it hard to know if he hit or not, so he'll get called more and will win bigger pots. Yeah he'll get called sometimes when he doesnt have it and give up, but thats what makes him get called more when he does have. Paragraph 2. Yeah, exceptions are calling stations. Don't continue bluffing a calling station because they won't fold. It's actually an old poker saying, Dont Bluff a Calling Station.
@jaket1858
@jaket1858 2 ай бұрын
Apart from limping UTG and then someone shoves all in over the top with a worse hand and it's an easy call
@cadleo
@cadleo 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest mistake in this video is assuming all situations are the same and there is only one way to play them. I find it very profitable to check raise hyper aggressive people who get poker advice from videos. Better advice is to adjust your play according to your table, and its usually more profitable to counter a particular strat instead of having rules you stick too, which make you extremely exploitable. eg, if you have a hyper aggressive table, set more check raise traps, let the "pros" bet for you and then put them to the test. They are just "too good" to fold and you get paid. 3x? Check raise 10x to isolate and get paid by people who follow rules from the internet who tell themselves they "cant fold now".
@keljjeme
@keljjeme Жыл бұрын
Raising preflop lots of times kills the action at times. Who wants to win 2 blinds with AA's? That may work on bigger tables, but on 1-2NL, you'll win 3 bucks. And we are here to win big not 3 bucks. I've seen it happen enough to know that scaring away people is not a good way to build a pot.
@adansampieri6249
@adansampieri6249 2 жыл бұрын
I limp all the time and I let the win come to me and can fold aces if I have too...stealth mode
@TheLirJEt86
@TheLirJEt86 Жыл бұрын
never limp? I've caught people so many times with AA like that. I don't know about cash, I feel cash you want to show people youre comfortable with raising but tournaments? its all about chip stacks nd limping has to be plausible at times, no?
@nairsheasterling9457
@nairsheasterling9457 Жыл бұрын
Rule number one: do not let your opponents figure out a pattern. Once they can consistently read you, they can exploit you. If you can tilt your opponents, all the better. Rule number 2: Information is being played for as much as money is. Act accordingly.
@monicanunez4568
@monicanunez4568 2 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Mark "The Jelly" Ari
@anthony669
@anthony669 2 жыл бұрын
#1 doesnt seem to work in ultra micro stakes, at least in my limited experience so far. Every one seem to call the raise at those table almost no matter what hand they have. Flop arrives and you're there with AQ or whatever and some guy calling with 46 hits 426 on the flop. So far i seem to have more success at this level waiting to see the flop than wasting cash raising preflop on good hands. I'm sure its different up a couple levels but at .02/.05 or .05/.10 i don't have any success following that advice, I just burn through cash rasing with good hands that don't hit.
@battlingphoenix3847
@battlingphoenix3847 2 жыл бұрын
He plays agrresive because they call, that’s the point, going higher in stakes means they will think about the decision of folding
@goncalodvd
@goncalodvd 2 жыл бұрын
I limp reraise a LOT on zoom ...
@craigfass5327
@craigfass5327 2 жыл бұрын
Just used this technique w aq suited and got smashed...guy called a 5x preflop raise w/ k10 off and gets kk 1010 on the board. Great advice
@geoffsolonsch7782
@geoffsolonsch7782 2 жыл бұрын
Where did anyone on the vid say 5x. Common sense tells you that if you have aq on that sort of board yes you are betting the flop, then unless you make the str8 you should be checking turn and river as this board clearly will hit your opponents range a lot of the time
@clapforboobies5892
@clapforboobies5892 2 жыл бұрын
FYI no 1/2 live cash game open raises $5. Its never less than $12
@ah1548
@ah1548 2 жыл бұрын
“Raise it $18 “-does he mean raise by or raise to $18?
@rionnation9700
@rionnation9700 Жыл бұрын
9:25 what if he has a set of 7 sevens? you only have a king
@ricardo25891263
@ricardo25891263 19 күн бұрын
7's,K7, 3's, 73 K3 you lose to so many hands
@hitman5782
@hitman5782 2 жыл бұрын
Whatever you say bro, i play poker professionally for about 22 years now and i think limping and then reraising made the most money for me. Let me explain: when you have a table where 95% of all hands are raised anyways from somebody, why not just limp, let another person raise, get some callers and dead money, and then raise. Of course, you must have some bluffs like A2s and A5s in your otherwise nut heavy range, but in my point of view, this is the way better strategy, at least at some tables.
@xd-metal9026
@xd-metal9026 Жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely right, sir
@wallstreetviking3933
@wallstreetviking3933 2 жыл бұрын
Limping is only a mistake unless it's a strategy
@wallstreetviking3933
@wallstreetviking3933 2 жыл бұрын
Limping is only a mistake if it's not a strategy
@Io-wk5rg
@Io-wk5rg Жыл бұрын
If u rase and they hide big hands , you are the fish
@skatmanscott
@skatmanscott 2 жыл бұрын
It just feels so wrong to say "raise before the flop literally 100% of the time" this can't be true can it? Ive watched a lot of poker and even the best players in the world don't do that 100% of the time
@xd-metal9026
@xd-metal9026 Жыл бұрын
Of course it’s not true. Anybody doing that would lose their entire stack in no time.
@tanork47
@tanork47 Жыл бұрын
Yeah its only for people to get more comfortable betting I think. Most cash games if every limps its nearly always a 5-way family pot which does not help you in the slightest. I say to play nitty and just see how the table plays. If most are calling bets randomly then stay for some decent hands and then aggressive in position to get people out of the way
@Hakz379
@Hakz379 Жыл бұрын
Slight exaggeration lol, if ur in position (button, cutoff etc) you’re pretty much raising like 70-80% of hands u get dealt in theory. AX KX QX JX (not the really bad ones ofc ) suited connectors pocket pairs raise 3-4-5 BB especially if it gets limped to u, if u get 3 bet re-evaluate, and call or 4bet or if it’s really bottom of range u can just fold. Small stakes live cash a lot of ppl like limping trapping strategy because almost always will their be a raiser and u can just trap 3 bet or limp and see a flop then typically check to raiser unless you’re pretty nutted or on big flush draw up and down straight draw, good combo draw, gut shots are cool but hardly get there. if not u prob wanna check to raiser . or if u have a decent hand that u don’t want them to catchup u can lead too post flop. But ya he’s exaggerating but really much almost all the time u gonna raise Preflop in position with a decent amount of ur hands “range”.
@maulrat588
@maulrat588 Жыл бұрын
Never letting off the gas is how your stack gets eliminated real quick.
@jmc655
@jmc655 2 жыл бұрын
You know for people like me who were just naturally good at Texas Holdem my entire life these type of channels kind of urk me. The only people this videoreally helps are complete fish, I would prefer the fish stay fish. When you tell people to only 3 bet qq or better you damn near ruin the game.
@alexatedw
@alexatedw 2 жыл бұрын
Limping is fine. Limp opening is bad
@thedude5599
@thedude5599 2 жыл бұрын
Serial limper here consistant winner. I own guys like him all the time. They raise 3x I hit trips open ended or flush draw or two pair they C bet I call the bet again I jam they call they have one pair im way ahead I win 300 and they go man you got lucky,. I want to see the flop if you limp fold ok thats stupid but if you want to call your 89s why raise why not limp then call a raise. If you raise with 89s then get rerasied now your putting in way to much money so you have to fold and tyou dont get to see the flop. This guy played micro stakes Id love to see him play our home game we would chew him up and spit him out. You raise at my home game you will get 5 callers trying to crack you. I play in casinos all over and win every where.
@Nile15rush_fj
@Nile15rush_fj 2 жыл бұрын
@@thedude5599 the only place where you'd win is at Stupidtown
@thedude5599
@thedude5599 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nile15rush_fj lol im up 56 000 last year play on 1-2 tables ya right.
@michaeltran8668
@michaeltran8668 2 жыл бұрын
Easier said than done, what credential you have?
@andershaggbom2721
@andershaggbom2721 4 ай бұрын
Because no one give a shit in micro stakes limp or all in,,,, pro tip😂
@teecee4459
@teecee4459 2 жыл бұрын
I see players limp all the time and win massive pots. If your goal is to win as many chips as possible and limping scores tons of chips, how is it bad?
@nicksmith2194
@nicksmith2194 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is just a few basics, targeting more of the new players to the game.... but I think it's important to not say 100% of the time. If everyone at the table is calling every raise pre, there's absolutely no reason to raise.
@jesses1519
@jesses1519 11 ай бұрын
Never in my life have I seen such a small preflop raise of $6 lol. Wth u talking about
@patrickstuart2243
@patrickstuart2243 Жыл бұрын
This is all true but the Poker room where I play has allot of retired old dudes with deep pockets and most times it doesn’t matter what you bet. They will chase and get lucky . So many times I see this with these guys play crap cards . It’s hard to deal with idiot players that just seem to get lucky all the time .
@johnnyblaze8030
@johnnyblaze8030 2 жыл бұрын
Real situation here at the $1/3 table I'm dealt pocket AA. I raise $25 I get 2 callers then someone shoves All In $150. I wanna isolate this raiser so I shove my remaining stack of $400. The other 2 call. The villain has QJ suited and flop is QQJ. Gg what were the other 2 players thinking??
@seanbehnken8197
@seanbehnken8197 2 жыл бұрын
That u should raise even more with premium and tighten up ur range overall. Long term u will win. Sucks when they suck out but overall u will win more.
@johnnyblaze8030
@johnnyblaze8030 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanbehnken8197 I mean my initial raise is 7x the BB how much more should I raise?? Then I shove $400. These are big amounts here for a 1/3 table
@MikeJones-zu7cq
@MikeJones-zu7cq 2 жыл бұрын
Thats type of raise usually takes down the pot pre flop. The all in just felt like gambling and got lucky.
@24magiccarrot
@24magiccarrot 2 жыл бұрын
In a situation like that, open up a can of beer to celebrate and reload your stack cause you are at a great table.
@malazuth3306
@malazuth3306 2 жыл бұрын
nothing wrong, keep playing in bank and against terrible oponents and... proffit!
@enricoastarita7215
@enricoastarita7215 2 жыл бұрын
Unclear istruction i have lost my home
@pauloazevedo2740
@pauloazevedo2740 2 жыл бұрын
Today in PokerStars, I get AA, blonde 2000/4000, one player raise to 8000, me In MP, reraise, to 32000, he give a call, flop K10 and another small card. He bets 50% of the pot I raise all in. The f****king donk, call the 4bet with K10, and the program help him. I lost a lot of chips. Later iam I'm BB, with 97, no One raise, the flop came 9710, iam short but with some chips, I go all in, the same player from the K10, call with AQ, turn J, river K. How can I play against this kind of people, and most off all, how can I play against the program in PokerStars? I think there is no solution for this, so I gonna quit play in PokerStars. Ty
@tanork47
@tanork47 Жыл бұрын
Sadly video game poker you get a LOT of kiddies playing poker Bingo and just shoving for no real reason. Its super annoying and all the live cash games you will have a easier time its just harder without a proper bankroll sadly
@geraldgarrett5088
@geraldgarrett5088 2 жыл бұрын
I hear ya say "I got to be honest." why say this sentence which Infers what normally you say are lies........
@ALF8892
@ALF8892 2 жыл бұрын
One reason I don't like to bluff for example: That flop you showed 5-5-6. Two clubs. You hold A,K. If I bluff that someone could have the ace of spades which I essentially the card I'm representing.
@iswearimblack
@iswearimblack 2 жыл бұрын
I’d be more worried about pocket 5’s
@ALF8892
@ALF8892 2 жыл бұрын
@@iswearimblack I would bet hard on any hand I chose to play pre flop. Idea being I get pocket 5s in this case to fold pre flop
@alexatedw
@alexatedw 2 жыл бұрын
Lol opening to 6 at 1/2 is leaving a ton of value on the table
@johncouture7670
@johncouture7670 Жыл бұрын
Good info, but you overuse the term “guys” to describe players.
@jaypeters5224
@jaypeters5224 Жыл бұрын
Omg get a life FFS. Jesus, find something else to bitch about
@shahramkhodadadi9542
@shahramkhodadadi9542 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I do agree on aggression part however raising with any 2 cards per flop just to show who’s the boss ain’t gonna cut it , players are catch up to that pretty fast
@edwardjackson9871
@edwardjackson9871 2 ай бұрын
Not with any 2 cards, but with premium hands. He said you should only be playing 15-20% of your hands.
@ahbraveconscript997
@ahbraveconscript997 Жыл бұрын
i use aggression to mask my insecurities!
@IndianIdiot602
@IndianIdiot602 2 жыл бұрын
How much you lost in online poker and working for a poker sites and getting paid to make us play and loose. Go and earn money by working not cheating players like me
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