Blackthorne Rescues Toranaga from a Landslide - Scene | Shōgun | FX

Lady Mariko gives Blackthorne some grim comfort as disaster strikes, with the land Lord Toranaga is trying to protect swallowing him whole. FX’s Shōgun is now streaming on Hulu.
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Based on James Clavell’s novel, FX’s Shōgun is set in Japan in the year 1600 at the dawn of a century-defining civil war. Lord Yoshii Toranaga is fighting for his life as his enemies on the Council of Regents unite against him, when a mysterious European ship is found marooned in a nearby fishing village.
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[@FXNetworks]

"We live and we die. We control nothing beyond that."

[@Zockopa]

The truth.

[@arfanhaq1492]

We don't control when we are born and die either,. In fact we control nothing. Karma shukame, kısmet is all

[@meinkek7896]

No. I dont follow soyboy quote.

[@gammaraider]

Love this series, but that particular quote is just profound-sounding nonsense

[@meinkek7896]

@@gammaraider that is why its so soyish. I control my life.

[@GaijinCartoonist]

That look, Torinaga knows the history of those swords and just, gives the look of "How about that?" and gives a chuckle

[@casamir1]

Such great nonverbal acting

[@menumlor9432]

What's the history of the swords?

[@littlepenguinowo1819]

​@@menumlor9432they were owned by a worthless samurai, fujis father

[@mystery3645]

@@littlepenguinowo1819 addition to that: these were technically not even her father's katanas. instead, they had been bought off of a disgraced and destitute samurai, so that her father could keep up with appearances, as a samurai without a katana is no samurai at all. the story goes that the family probably couldn't afford to acquire anything remotely impressive the right and honorable way. so he found himself a disreputable way to get some impressive katanas and in doing so, had to make up a story along with them. (they're somebody's old family swords just not theirs. and buying them off some one broke and desperate isn't exactly showing off your high standing). Toranaga and the Anjin knew the true story on the origin of the katanas, but it hadn't been told to Fuji's family.

[@legendofo4094]

Fits narratively, as the earthquake ruined his army. The possibility of a military assault on Osaka castle was now no longer possible

[@onetuffspartan1981]

so much amazing acting in this scene. not verbal....but physical. The way everyone is looking at eachother tells so much without having a word said.

[@jeffandjoannbauer9567]

💯

[@arfanhaq1492]

Amazing acting as he(toranaga) gives anjın a fırst look of puzzled acknowledgement

[@MaloPiloto]

Yes, indeed. A scene really well done!

[@antonironstag5085]

that is why acting>writing

[@MikeySkywalker]

@@arfanhaq1492”wait the little baby Anjin rescued me?? 😂

[@adrianhilltobar3690]

i love how Toranaga basically tells him he is never leaving and that even thou he is hatamoto he is basically still a hostage just with benefits but he is still the first man to jump down to rescue him

[@Ablestron]

I think the deeper insinuation is that Toranaga sees a noble spirit in Blackthorn, and decides he must show him how to live with purpose. Much to Blackthorne's shagrin xD just let me fight the Portuguese bro

[@mbranche4234]

Toronaga being saved by Buckthorne, not once, but twice (he diverted the guards from his hiding in the caravan) has him bewildered. Such honorable acts from a foreign stranger humbles him. A first for him?. He extends favors not owes them.

[@charlesbowers8112]

Feudal Japanese lords honored their debts and rewarded loyalty lavishly, but they rarely owed favors to subordinates.

[@boxtears]

You forget Toranaga also saved Blackthorne's life.

[@TheCoolProfessor]

And possibly from the assassin at Osaka castle.

[@gregordrizzlewing7339]

Still ain’t going back to England 😂

[@lyrilljackson]

@@gregordrizzlewing7339 all gaslight is rape and all rape is courtesan.

[@jedtulman46]

Yes the birds taking off just before the earthquake is truly a marvelously natralistic detail ..so well done !

[@casamir1]

details

[@MikeySkywalker]

Have you ever been in the path of totality? The birds go nuts.

[@jedtulman46]

@MikeySkywalker no but recently I was in the 2024 solar eclipse. It was a wonderful New York/ Brooklyn experience ❤️

[@MikeySkywalker]

@@jedtulman46 did you get to see the entire thing? The full eclipse? The animals go nuts and it gets dark. It’s cool.

[@jedtulman46]

@MikeySkywalker no totality .I did take photos however. So cool

[@jB-uw8fi]

Really good acting/scriptwriting that Toranaga goes for his sword when the landslide starts. A true warrior, ready to fight mother nature herself, and die defiantly, in the face of hopeless odds.

[@alexlyster3459]

It's also a pretty natural reflect. Any warrior or soldier will feel most "ready" with their hand on their weapon. I would expect most sewell trained soldiers bow would instinctively go for their rifles even in this day and age

[@toddkes5890]

@@alexlyster3459 Better to have your weapon and not need it afterwards, than need it afterwards and not have it. Worst of all is having to explain to your Platoon Sergeant what happened. After the Sergeant gets finished chewing you out, you go meet the Supply Sergeant who hands you the forms to account for the loss and request a new weapon.

[@kirayoungblood]

Incredible scene and John giving his katanas to Toranaga touched my heart! ❤

[@TESkyrimizer]

i thought it was a bit of a unspoken slight because of the swords' shameful history? "you are not worthy of my service, but since I am stuck with you I might as well serve you" but maybe that was just me projecting my view of the situation onto Blackthorne. Dude has saved Toranaga's life twice now, got left behind once and had his deal reneged and still doesn't have his goddamn boat

[@Jombozeus]

@@TESkyrimizer Watch the podcast for this episode. It was meant to signify Blackthorne learning how words give things meaning.

[@cleekmaker00]

@@TESkyrimizer Toranaga's laugh was to acknowledge Karma. Knowing the story of the Daishō and what they represent yet he now holds them, given to him by the most unlikely person possible in his mind... as a gift. They played the Scene perfectly.

[@Euripides_Panz]

​@TESkyrimizer Not everyone in "the Japans" was aware of the particulars in Fuji's dishonor. They seemed to specifically say she, herself, was presented the swords as her father's as though honor was satisfied. She then gifted them to Anjin in a subsequent act of honor and thoughtful gesture when he gave her one of his prized pistols. Blackthorn, then perhaps remembered a remark about a Samurai without his swords, and humbly, perhaps pragmatically offered his as a goodwill gesture to his lord and Master. Because the terms of service were not clearly defined and documented, Blackthorn and Toranaga have, at least initially, very different ideas of their agreement. Blackthorn saw it as though he were some kind of military contractor. Train some troops to a somewhat ambiguous proficiency, then his own men and vessel are released to him, and they are then free to leave. Toranaga, no doubt, was looking to gain an edge over his rival lords and was content with taking possession of the ship, its armaments and crew as was his right in his territory. Seeing Blackthorn had insights that merited keeping him alive, he offered an honorary position with duties analogous to a military officer in wartime where his Anjin was expected loyal service to his Supreme Commander until that term of service was no longer required. This is why Toranaga briefly laughs in an amused "well, I will be damned, my tool Anjin may be coming to terms with his situation better than I hoped."

[@kirayoungblood]

I think he, Toranaga saw that John has very quickly with the help of Fuji and Mariko understand the mannerisms of the life the Japanese lead back then. And for John to willingly give his swords, show that John has more honor than probably even Toranaga himself since John was in some aspects to a sense screw over by him and others because one he didn’t know their culture nor language when he first arrive but he is showing how quickly he is assimilating so for Toranaga it might have been a karmic cosmic joke aim toward him and that’s why he look amuse

[@user-bl3fx4fx8u]

Honestly, I look forward to this drama every week. Personally, I think Shogun will win an Emmy this year.

[@FriggSaga]

It's really an engrossing drama. Every time I watch I really feel like I'm there.

[@failtolawl]

Regardless, I don't think I've seen a show that is quite as encapsulating since the start of The Expanse.

[@user-fv9nl6bb8l]

The woke will ruin it.

[@allenbrady8083]

@@failtolawlMy thoughts exactly!

[@PSBrathwaite]

You think that personally as opposed to what, non-personally?

[@socrates94]

JB living up to that title of Hatamoto before and after it was granted. Saved the Galley Crew during the storm (including Yabushige & Rodrigues), prevented Toranaga's capture in Osaka with his "bafoonery" as Jozen termed it, got Toranaga & Co all out of Osaka Harbor, literally pulls Toranaga out of the Earth after the landslide then tops it off by offering him his swords. Now thats Soldiering!

[@kaymarx9677]

On first sighting the catch phrase I up-voted it; that's my style, sir!

[@stratedmusic5139]

Ah, men of culture!

[@martinsmith3354]

Sharp.... very Sharpe. I see what you did there.

[@jadefire2817]

Blackthorne 's coat buttons up over a number of duties doesn't it?

[@joesephjoestar4449]

You know what Anjin says makes a good Hatamoto Guard? The ability to save your Tono in any weather.

[@MattBellzminion]

This scene marks a major improvement over the earthquake scene in the 1980 NBC series (which was also great, and had a magnificent cast, a great script, and superb production values for its time and format): the bigger budget and combined CGI and practical special effects account for most of that.

[@JeremyIceAndFire33]

Blackthorne truly realizing how much weight his words carry here now that's he's Hatamoto.

[@elitemage101]

That was my favorite part of this scene. That and the stone being set straight are showing Blackthorne finally learning he has to respect their culture and if he doesn’t the consequences (good and bad) are his fault.

[@drconflict629]

This scene was incredibly well done. The CGI was mind blowing!

[@Lolzbeastie]

You can hear the birds beginning to squawk before obvious birds flying scene - great detail, and im loving it

[@akiraaoiichigo]

Bro that's the basic 😢

[@jeffreyjackson5229]

" We live and we die- we control nothing beyond that." Such a reality should not only humble us but enable us to let things go more quickly.

[@meinkek7896]

Soyboy quote.

[@missbelled6700]

@@meinkek7896 are you an actual child, or a grown man pretending to be one online? 😂

[@meinkek7896]

@@missbelled6700 i control what i said. Such a weak soyboy quote. I control where i can travel. WEAK SOYBOY.

[@meinkek7896]

@@missbelled6700 Look. Another soyboy

[@BavarianHobbit]

@@missbelled6700 While it was childish the way he put it there is also some truth to it. Yes, we live and we die but that doesn't mean to throw life away that easily like the japanese did in that time. The practice of Seppuku was stupid and thats why Blackthorne also is bewildered by how easily they waste life for nothing(a rotting fish).

[@wattlebough]

The way the birds flew up in the distance seconds before the earthquake is such a great detail.

[@justopinions5919]

I love the double take Toranaga gives, when he comes to the realization that the barbarian has just saved him yet again.

[@azimus1776]

This scene was so well done - the CGI, the acting, the sound effects, absolutely incredible.

[@nont18411]

3:13 Blackthorne started to understand Japanese bit by bit

[@Euripides_Panz]

Eventually understand to the point where "Blackthorn was dead," and he would consider himself Japanese. Even when he was eventually allowed to leave, he chose to live out his days there, helping to establish trade, build a navy, take a wife, and family. Finally, splitting his wealth between his Japanese and English families upon his actual death.

[@Brendissimo1]

Wow I forgot how thematically connected the earthquake is to the scene just before. Good editing, including the end of that in this clip.

[@matiasrocha317]

Love the chemistry between Blackthorne and Lord Toranaga in this part . ( Cosmo Jarvis and Hiroyuki Sanada gives strong performances playing this two characters ) . I can't wait to watch the final few episodes of the show ⚔️⚔️⚔️⚔️⚔️ .

[@giagshs9513]

I like the way natural disasters like landslide, earthquake is used very well in the show. acting is top notch!

[@Rhamkatte]

So many meaningful layers in this scene. Everything serves a higher purpose. The Gardner believed his death would prevent the Tatarigami from coming to the house and town. He also saved the Toranaga and his spy. The Tatarigami came anyway with the earthquake. The gardener's sacrifice was not in vain. The spirits revealed to Toranaga through the calamity the falcon that will hunt, when Blackthorn saved him. Blackthorn with all his perceived worthlessness for himself and some Japanese in the story. He manages to always keep his eye on what's important. Thereby, serving a higher purpose. Will this story allow us to see him grow into it. I hope so 💯

[@DefinitelyProbable]

this could be a promo! lol nicely put friend

[@zerovikings5852]

Cheer screaming of soldiers is something that had never been done before. Perfection

[@zacchhhh]

this show is a chefs kiss. so good!

[@LRZephyr]

Incredible acting as always. I wonder how many samourais died that day

[@zerovikings5852]

Couple thousand were buried alive with civilian casualties it’s probably 20% of the whole population . If In today’s world tens of thousands get stuck under the rubble imagine getting swallowed by earth

[@DavZeugme]

" We live and we die- we control nothing beyond that." The mountain: "Yes."

[@bananaguchi]

I think the way Blackthorne running towards Toranaga is kinda comical and cute! 😁

[@lucasbelmonte2832]

To be fair he probably cant walk straight

[@MikeySkywalker]

My favorite part is Toranaga’s surprise when he sees it’s Blackthorne who rescued him. Two minutes ago he was telling Moriko that he a child. Then that child rescues him, and saves his life.

[@jeffreyjackson5229]

This scene brought to mind Blackthorn and Toranaga's first meeting. What if Toranaga made the costly mistake of killing him, which he could very well have done? Think of the repercussions that would have followed if he perished as a result of the quake since Blackthorn wouldn't have been there to resuscitate him?

[@SilvoNathan]

I like how he gives fujis swords to him. While they both know they’re just cheap as swords and are really family swords. The Irony.

[@OneofInfinity.]

Great writing, been a while I've had the enjoyment of good writing in a tv series.

[@alphagerudo]

When he said "Thank you" I said awww🥺

[@Mr.Whitestone]

Finally, Tuesday is here.

[@aleccap5946]

Fantastic series

[@trinitytwo14992]

Looks like a great remake of a classic series. Can’t wait to see it.

[@robertgreer4296]

I was impressed with Sanada in the Last Samurai. He plays this role like a master. His face, his eyes, almost tell you what he's thinking and planning. Such a great role for him.

[@Perkustin]

Shoutout to the actually quite impressive VFX, looked movie quality.

[@thetr00per30]

I thought the same thing, that landslide was impressive

[@miguelluis483]

toranaga standing there with his hand on his hilt like he can chop the landslide's head off

[@KoiYakultGreenTea]

The mightiest man is defeated by mother nature!

[@anas-432]

By god.

[@RedDiomedes]

This is why we have weight classes

[@IdeaOfEvil]

@@anas-432 By the movement of Earth? What are you spouting?

[@bukojoetheslapsoils8273]

@@IdeaOfEvil He is a theist. Let him be. Just ignore him.

[@joemiller5922]

By God! Jesus is Lord!

[@borinacalzetta1394]

Great scene🌹

[@wolfganghuhn7747]

Sanada is an amazing actor

[@bernihammerschmidt4996]

Absolutly gorgeus.nothing less

[@dracokaiser]

So cool they used the correct language of that time period ❤

[@MorrisFilmPhoto]

Epic! As good as or actually even better than Last Samurai⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@zonzillamagnus5902]

It is a great series. GJ people.

[@Iluthra]

This quake scene is far scarier than the original show.

[@user-christianityjinja]

It seemed like the moment when the general acquired his first loyal retainer whom he could trust wholeheartedly.

[@tihlsteinig2465]

A day in coming out on disk I'll buy it. 🎯👍❤️

[@Primenumber19]

The village head is toranagas spy, so he let the situation get out of control so the gardener would die and therefore could be blamed for the spying. Blackthorne didn’t kill him, toranaga did

[@JayTee2985]

The gardener sacrificed his life in order to protect Toranaga and his spy from being exposed.

[@Fatherofheroesandheroines]

" Don't move!" They kinda had no choice there pal.

[@DavidFobare]

I had to see this again to understand what Toranaga said at Yabushige’s death: “He makes me laugh”

[@kakyoukuzuki]

Is it Tuesday yet?

[@jokersroom75]

外国人には『かたじけない、katajikenai』が thank you としか表記されないのが残念。 殿が『かたじけない』と言うのは、単なるアリガトウではない。

[@eri5362]

yeah I noticed it as well, it's such a misstep of translation

[@Cmtwrt-ru8gj]

@jokersroom75 であるなら、どのように英訳するのが妥当なのですか？ これまでのハリウッド映画であれば、どこかのアジア人が 音声で「Thank you」、字幕で「ありがとう」で終わりですｗ。 というか、元となった小説ですら英語ですから。 今回の制作上の重要ポイントが、"日本人が観ても違和感のないもの" です。 ここの動画は英語圏向けですから、日本語の部分に字幕が付いています。 （日本人向けなら、たぶん逆なので、英訳字幕は出ないと思います） それぞれの第一言語(original language)で楽しめればいいんです。

[@maninjapan79]

​​@@Cmtwrt-ru8gj直訳は難しいけど、もうちょっ意味が伝わる言葉を選べたと思います。my deepest gratitude/ I am indebted to youなと。。。 確かにここでThankyouだけだと違和感感じますね。まっ、細かい話ですけどね。間違ってるわけでもないし😅

[@solokalnesaltam3015]

Ground behaving almost liquid must be a terrible thing to experience

[@PumaTwoU]

If you are a few stories up in a building during an earthquake, you can SEE the ground move like a fluid as the wave of motion makes it roll. Land slides are much the same.

[@gaoxiaen1]

@@PumaTwoU I'm in Taiwan. We've been getting an aftershock above 4.0 up to 6.1 every ten minutes or so since yesterday.

[@yeltsin6817]

I remember watching the original with my parents with RichardChamberlain playing the English part. I had no interest. But I really want to watch this version.

[@ln5321]

Mariko: "We live and we die. We control nothing beyond that." Me: "Curious. And yet you instinctively fear for your life during the earthquake. I am very smart."

[@anthtan]

Never been in an earthquake. It looks absolutely terrifying. No force on earth can withstand mother nature.

[@madtitan0825]

Japan is a beautiful country but one of the biggest unfortunates is the occasional natural disasters there 😬

[@gaoxiaen1]

I wish that I could say that. I'm in Taiwan. We've been getting an aftershock above 4.0 up to 6.1 every ten minutes or so since yesterday.

[@nickb220]

that's kinda of a mountain slide

[@mamanganwar]

I am wondering why Toranaga laughing at 3:03. Is it because he knows the story behind that katana? Or is because an Anjin offering his katana as a gift?

[@TheWeekendWarrior99]

My thoughts were that Toranaga initially had power over Blackthorne because he is a lost man in a world that he doesn’t understand. Him laughing was kind of a hysterical revelation that because Blackthorne had saved him (twice now), he has a life debt to the Anjin.

[@1998rg]

@@TheWeekendWarrior99it’s because he was about to die, you dumbasses, read the book

[@dancho117]

@@TheWeekendWarrior99Nah, he's definitely laughing because he knows the story of those swords. Its ironic beyond belief. And Blackthorne knows Toronaga knows.

[@luckystroke126]

Gaijin barbarian saves a great Daimyos life and gives him cheap swords as a gift because he has lost hes own. Its almost like an insult. It really is kinda funny and ironic from Toranagas perspective.

[@solemgameinsights]

My interpretation of his reaction is this: "This gaijin both knows too little and too much about our culture and honor at the same time" and chuckles at the irony.

[@I_SuperHiro_I]

That’s why we dwell on things that cannot be undone. So through our faith, God can undo them.

[@davidholaday2817]

Was that his army that was being buried by the landslide?

[@aleefbilal6211]

Yeah. They were preparing for a civil war.

[@zerovikings5852]

Yes

[@Mestari1Gaming]

@@zerovikings5852That sucks...

[@eodyn7]

@@zerovikings5852 No, only part of the camp.

[@Eagle09-nv5xd]

@@eodyn7dude that was at least 75% of the camp. I sure hope the army realized the landslide rather quickly so they could start running.

[@cy8758]

in the book they laughed and then took a piss on the ground

[@devinarthur6559]

1:21

[@mrhappystore8611]

This show was great and I loved when the earthquake happened it was by far the climax of the entire dull season.

[@globalist1990]

Never seen people praising a slave this much in the comments...

[@ironsideeve2955]

What about the other soldiers

[@WorldMarine]

Why does it rain all the time?

[@atticstattic]

Humid, subtropical climate?

[@asiseeit2041]

Fujis fathers swords? The swords blackthorne offers toranaga are the swords fujikos husband owned, who failed in his duty protecting his lord. So fujikos husband and son where killed and she offered to blackthorn as consort. Why change the true story? Why? It was perfect. If the authore was my grandfather or father I’d be mad as hell.

[@seanbumstead1250]

Earthquake not landslide,you never seen the 1980s original

[@PiscestheDirty]

I noticed that he grabbed the swords with over hand first, like 'gimme it, anjin' cuz he is the Lord then he used under hand which show respect. Maybe im over analysing but tiny details in this show are nuts!

[@SystemOfStrategy]

Swords aren't worn with the sagao wrapped around the Saya like that. So many little details that would have been easy to fix.

[@Cmtwrt-ru8gj]

The string-like thing wrapped around the 鞘(Saya) is called "下緒(sage-o)". In this age, it always added. Use this string to tie the Saya to 帯(Obi). ・To prevent the sword attached to his waist from being taken away unexpectedly. ・To prevent the sheath from falling out of the Obi when the sword is drawn. ・If he use a 太刀(Tachi), use it by hanging it from his waist with this string. (mounted warrior) In addition, ・Tie the Saya and 鍔(Tsuba), or the Saya and 柄(e), to prevent the sword from slipping out unexpectedly. Show others that he have no intention of drawing his sword. ・Substitute when the 柄巻(e-maki) breaks. It seems that the Samurai of the time used it in various ways. In this movie, many Japanese professional staff members are involved, so the historical research is quite accurate.

[@SystemOfStrategy]

@@Cmtwrt-ru8gj That Sagao was wrapped for display not for wearing the sword. No swordsman is going to have sagao like that on his sword when he is wearing it. Some ryuha use sagao and wrap it around the obi to secure it however that also limits how the blade can be drawn.

[@Cmtwrt-ru8gj]

@@SystemOfStrategy After reading your first comment, "A sword that is worn by removing the string from the Saya." I was guessing that's what you wanted to say. According to historical documents explaining how to use the Sageo, From the beginning of Sageo's history, various ways to use it were explained based on the changes in the sword and the historical background. Methods of "pinching it in the Obi" and "tying it to the Obi" were also described. As you say, if you carry a sword with the intention of drawing it, you should untie Sageo. (However, even in that case, it would be a nuisance if it was left hanging, so it seems that it was sometimes loosely tied to the Saya.) There were different styles of tying the Sageo to the Saya, and the way it was tied was determined by each domain and the school of swordsmanship during the Edo period. For practical purposes, use knots that can be easily untied. In that scene, the way of tying that Sageo is called "大名結び(dai-myou musubi)" or "浪人結び(rou-nin musubi)". This is a method for those who don't have to draw their sword right away. In other words, it can be said to be a good-looking knot, or a knot for displaying a sword. In the Edo period, the color of Sageo was determined by the samurai class. (This movie is set just before the Edo period, but since the colors are not gorgeous, it is likely that he was not of high social status.)

[@Cmtwrt-ru8gj]

Let's look back at that scene. Toranaga laughed as he was handed the sword. why? ・Blackthorne does not know swordsmanship or how to use a sword. Therefore, he inherited the sword from Fuji's father, and he wore it in his Obi as it was. (Sageo was still tied) ・Toranaga was helped by a foreigner of a lower status than himself. He received it from a foreigner who didn't even know how to use a 　Japanese sword. (It was obvious just by looking at Sageo) For those reasons, Toranaga laughed at his own situation. It would be a lie if that scene showed a noble-colored, untied Sageo. (I think that scene was possible because it was a Japanese staff member.) At the least, you are admirable for pointing out that the condition of that Sageo was not practical.

[@SystemOfStrategy]

@@Cmtwrt-ru8gj I was not real picky, its a movie. The fact that the actors don't tend to wear their Katana properly, the Katana are short post Josun law size, the fact that at the gate in another scene they ask in Japanese for his Katana when he is wearing a wakizashi/kodachi, or when the one Daimyo, Yabushige I think they call him is wearing a katana instead of a Tachi in his armor and its edge down like a Tachi, etc. again it's a movie. This was a close up scene and the Sagao just jumped out so to speak.

[@apolloistaphquibs5075]

is Toronaga based on Nobunaga or tokugawa?

[@neutronalchemist3241]

Tokugawa Ieiasu. Lord Goroda, the bloodthirsty dictator killed by Mariko's father, is inspired by Oda Nobunaga.

[@apolloistaphquibs5075]

@@neutronalchemist3241 ahh! that makes sense.

[@user-sg2fw6ze7n]

여기 나오는 일본배우들 영어를 다 엄청 잘해. 인터뷰보면 영어 발음이 진짜 좋아.

[@definitelynotanAIchatbot]

Thank you

[@RedFade]

What is happening at the end, cuz it is not clear to me, and I dont remeber Toranga losing all his army like that in the book

[@Swagman111]

Anglik umiera

[@TheGOAT161]

Toranaga will not forget this. He owes Blackthorne a great debt. A debt that will be paid in full.

[@roganmuldoon3357]

Not quite as it is written in the book, but not a bad job anyway.

[@catherinekershaw903]

Far better than Richard Chamberlain's lilly livered version. John Blackthorne is far more believable.

[@zoinksscoob6523]

Getting spoiled by their official youtube channel is crazy

[@DrendarMorevo]

This episode came out last week.

[@easternlights3155]

Am I weird or is anybody else wondering how the make up department went about making whatever fake dirt Hiroyuki Sanada had to put in his mouth here? It looks disgustingly real.

[@robertatmopawiro3847]

why would he accept the swords of a non japanese, when they could have contineud to look for his own swords which are way more valuable?, i think i am missing a lot here, his sword set should be close to where he was found, yes?

[@user-fp9hf5uu8l]

It is weird that he immediately gives up on his swords, but the swords blackthorne gives him belonged to fuji's father (though not really but that's the story), so blackthorne holding them for a few days doesn't change much.

[@iinred1954]

A samurai can not be seen without swords , huge dishonor. Doubley so for Toronaga with his rank.

[@user-ot3on2cs7c]

In the novel, Blackthorne slips the idea of finding them to Kasigi Omi, who then has his villagers/slaves dig them out. It's Blackthorne's way of trying to defuse a potentially deadly conflict with Omi. I'm not watching the actual show so I don't know whether this happens, or even if Omi is a character ... ? (He should be, he's pretty important in the novel.)

[@neutronalchemist3241]

First of all, to command to dig for the swords when half of his army had been buried by the landslide would have been petty. But the swords were a rank badge. It was not appropriate for a feudal lord to be seen without them. So, in that situation, it was just natural, for one of his followers, to offer his own as replacements. Like it would have been natural for the lord of the village, later, to quietly search for them and return them, without being ordered to.

[@gregoryfolsom7882]

​@@neutronalchemist3241in the book, they did, and eventually found them, bent to the point of unusability.

[@MrR1D3R]

This Marino sucks

[@marclement24]

What blackthorne doesn't understand, is that he had never loss a loved one, unlike Mariko, [SPOILER] who's entire family was killed by his own father, then committed seppuku himself after. So for Mariko, 'what do you know of life and death blackthorne?' Mariko wanted to end her life with honor, like Eujiro the gardener but was unable to do so in vain otherwise the 'society' might deem it as dishonorable and she would only be remembered as that, even after she dies. So yeah blackthorne, before you whine about your loss, grow up and choose your words carefully, you're not in England anymore.

[@Jombozeus]

Heh? This is a weird take. We don't know about Blackthorne's family and it's not like people don't die in England. 1590s London was a pretty ugly place. It was going through a plague and a famine, simultaneously.

[@mindoftheswarm7]

Is it established in the show that Blackthorne has never lost a loved one? Also, so what if he is ‘whining’ as you put it? He is a fish out of water in the context of the show for much of the cultural norms. That being said, he has his value demonstrated in a number of scenes both from a pragmatic viewpoint in his naval expertise and his cultural attitudes. But I wonder, if this show was about a Japanese man in England complaining about the culture… would you have made an analogous comment about ‘Stop whining, you’re not in Japan anymore.’?

[@Magnonx]

He wasn't whining about 'his loss'. Rather, upset about lives being of little value to people in Japan.

[@Magnonx]

@@mindoftheswarm7 No, that'd be ''racist'' n shiiet

[@marclement24]

People this is not woke period, this is 1700 period Japan. Stop whining about freedom, there's no freedom back then even in western 1700 countries.

[@Xanderbelle]

They keep calling it an orriginal series... but it's a scene by scene remake of the Richard Chamberlain version

[@MT-su2lq]

Well, both was, at last in major parts, somewhat lawful to the orignal material. So, it is just natural they are very close as long they describe the source material. Thats btw a known problem. We had alot series which tried to "overcome the source material". The majority of that tries really failed hard... So, better like this for me.