The Battle of Austerlitz Scene - Napoleon (2023) Joaquin Phoenix

[@b.mcboatface7319]

"Never interrupt your screenwriter when he is making a grave mistake" - Maximus Bonaparte

[@thedownunderverse]

😂

[@jquintero462]

😂

[@mamurphy]

Underrated comment 😂

[@TheAngelOfDeath01]

*chuckles* It could have been a lot worse. I doubt the screen writer knows anything about the napoleonic wars.

[@ezekiel5946]

At least the movie trailer was good 😅

[@jodofe4879]

It is a pity they didn't show the pivotal moment of the battle where Napoleon called in an airstrike.

[@MrMacky-co6zn]

Warthogs

[@murkywateradminssions5219]

Friendly AC-130 callsign "specter" is entering your air space, standby for danger close fire mission

[@King_of_Railways]

There was no need, no broken arrow!!

[@Trodpint-A]

He did, It was called “Linebacker 2”.

[@Hugh-j7o]

What a pathetic response

[@mikeborgmann]

Napoleon’s story has so much potential to make a great movie yet for some reason we don’t have it

[@Sven_E07]

We do. Napoleon (2002), with Christian Clavier, John Malkovich, Gerard Depardieu, Heino Ferch. A European co-production.

[@WilmerCook]

@@Sven_E07 You are Right! I forgot about that movie!

[@Hasan-qd9uc]

Instead of Hitler

[@septimuswarrensmith879]

We do: King Vidor 8 hour epic of War and Peace

[@Greyson-g2o]

I love 1970 Waterloo film

[@yenlabuda9289]

Wow, I never noticed we have mountains, vast lakes, and ancient woods south of Brno. Must have been looking at those almost flat fields wrong my entire life.

[@Endru85x]

I guess they were spawning outside of your FOV 😃

[@lukastichy7306]

Ten film je taková píčovina, že bych se nedivil kdyby tam byl záběr na moře

[@darthnihilus511]

😂😂😂

[@spryz5950]

Phew! I almost watched this movie. This clip saved me.

[@EmpiricalPragmatist]

Same here. Should have just made it an Avengers movie with time travel to the past, and called it a day.

[@sblack48]

dodged a bullet

[@amadeokomnenus1414]

I illegally downloaded it and i feel like i deserve a refund

[@sblack48]

@@amadeokomnenus1414 ok that right there is funny!! well done.

[@EmpiricalPragmatist]

@@amadeokomnenus1414 ROFL!

[@franklovscoffee]

"Send in the infantry, take their position on the higher ground!" *Infantry charges down a hill*

[@dontaycortez2397]

Bro doesn't know how hills work

[@High_rise12]

@@dontaycortez2397could you explain it then because in the film they’re clearly charging down hill into the valley which is precisely the exact opposite of what napoleon did at austerlitz

[@stevenfletcher9287]

With respect, I am by means an expert, but, nevertheless, I believe Napoleon had the high ground at Austerlitz.

[@High_rise12]

@@stevenfletcher9287 no he didn’t at the start, he purposefully gave up the high ground so as to trick the coalition into believing he was retreating

[@quantummechanic2634]

​@@stevenfletcher9287no he did not, go read up

[@generalsandnapoleon]

This movie had tremendous potential, but the script was terrible.

[@yarielamiama1120]

I totally agree with you.

[@PauloAdriano-zo2ng]

Was it because of the recent writer's strike? 🤔

[@yarielamiama1120]

@@PauloAdriano-zo2ng Not so sure, you can check if you want.

[@sblack48]

Napoleon was a military and political genius who made an indelible mark on europe in the 19th century still felt to this day. The character in this movie was just a buffoon.

[@wwnleather]

Agree-ish. I mean the costumes, the music, the cinematography, building tension.. I mean yeah the dialogue was meh but the scenes were brutal!

[@RayDoyouagree]

Wow I read about this battle. This scene about the ice is baffling. It really was Napoleon’s masterpiece but as portrayed by Ridley Scott it makes it seem like Napoleon’s tactics were on a par with a middle schooler’s daydream of a battle.

[@julienstephan8027]

I agree with you. The angle from which Riddley Scott tells Napoleon is..... Childish and..... Disconcerting!!!... Far from reality, in the end (in fine).....

[@HighlineGuitars]

I never knew Napoleon could bark an order and it was obeyed instantly.

[@septimuswarrensmith879]

Look at this famous early cartography of Napolean's disastrous Russian campaign: 'Charles Minard’s Flow Map of Napoleon’s Russian Campaign of 1812' The losses to his Grand Armee are beyond belief>

[@jameswhite3415]

​@septimuswarrensmith879 He has am abrudly high win % and is generally regarded as one of the greatest military geniuses of all time. Your countriee military brass probaly studied him. Losing a few battles does not mean he's bad

[@Burninator353]

Or that cannons could be aimed, fired, and reloaded as fast as modern artillery.

[@nonoar234]

I'm glad to learn that napoleonic battles were as simple as saying when to send the infantry, then cavalry, then artillery.

[@DanThomas-k1f]

Ya. You plan your strategy and placement before the battle. So when it starts that's what you do.

[@mic7536]

My grandmother told me "that no matter what the historians say napoleon was a black man"

[@burst651]

😂😂😂

[@gigachad6885]

A black transgender woman*

[@DanThomas-k1f]

A black king in 1800s France, makes sense with all their white privilege...oh wait, white people were the first race to free slaves. So ya. Possible.

[@peteschweddy4263]

Well no…he was an Italian though. But not a Sicilian of black blood. Meaning he was white. No trace of Barbary or Moore blood. His general however was black. He’s famous. Dumas was the also one of Napoleons best generals.

[@ritterbruder6815]

Wow you people really are desperate.

[@petebarrow274]

Now that I've seen this, I start to wonder if all that stuff in "Alien" really happened the way Ridley Scott showed it.

[@6daysoflight]

LOL

[@michaelkelloway2925]

Gold!

[@MistyMountainMedia]

Ripley would never lie....

[@σεα-ψ9ε]

You mean to tell me Alien isnt historically accurate? I demand a refund

[@bobbyologun1517]

top comment :D

[@toddreaker2298]

I think this movie actually surpasses Braveheart for historical errors.

[@Graymenn]

but braveheart was actually good

[@xavierbreath2227]

True

[@xavierbreath2227]

@@Graymenn also True.

[@Gablesman888]

Including the movie crew staff car. Remember that? Centuries before its time.

[@keepitsteel1993]

New York bartender/lieutenant in the grand army: "Hey Napoleon... let's give em hell..." *cocks 12 gauge*

[@High_rise12]

Am I an idiot or does this scene not make any sense, napoleon orders the infantry to charge to take the high ground (which is what he did at Austerlitz) but in the film the infantry are charging down the hill into the valley. Is this one of the most incompetent scenes in file history or am I missing something?

[@Ash_Hudson]

You're not missing anything. That is indeed a stupid tactic.

[@lepaul26]

Well, since they speak english , why not this 😀

[@High_rise12]

@@lepaul26 because that’s for the audiences sake, there is no reason for them to run down the hill

[@glenrobinson916]

Great film!!!

[@seltonk5136]

I thought the US civil war a good movie film

[@Curse44]

- Should the movie be inaccurate or silly? - Yes.

[@Lukas-ug6jy]

Here‘s how Scott defends the inaccuracies: "Napoleon dies then, ten years later, someone writes a book. Then someone takes that book and writes another, and so, 400 [sic] years later, there's a lot of imagination [in history books]. When I have issues with historians, I ask: 'Excuse me, mate, were you there? No? Well, shut the fuck up then.'"[116][120] Scott also declared, responding to French critics, that "the French don't even like themselves" Honestly he sounds like an idiot. His thought process is as simplistic as the „hide on hill and surprise enemy“-tactic the great battle of Austerlitz was dumbed down to.

[@baxternutt6063]

He should have blamed the studio and told us to wait for the Director's Cut. That seems to work with fans nowadays

[@chunguschungus]

He's sorta right, "history" is mostly fiction just like this movie, most of it is based on trust and it's less and less reliable the farther back you get. That said it's dumb to equate his made up version of events with the "historical" one, which may not be fact but is certainly more likely to be what took place.

[@nakfoor1846]

Ridley has always struck me as not a very bright bulb.

[@lukastichy7306]

​@@chunguschungus Napoleonic era is very well documented, this movie is absolute garbagge

[@chunguschungus]

@@lukastichy7306 Documented =/= True

[@johnduffy8532]

It's like they deliberately decided to save money by having no historical consultants on the film whatsoever.

[@Graymenn]

it wasnt an issue of money but an issue of agenda. Diminishing someone like him is high on the agenda list.

[@JaguarPriest]

well said@@Graymenn

[@freda7436]

because historians are so expensive, and CGI is so cheap!@@Graymenn

[@Graymenn]

@@freda7436 i doubt a historian is that expensive

[@freda7436]

was my sarcasm that un-obvious? ... @@Graymenn

[@tomtom34b]

I am surprised that Ridley Scott didn´t depict how well Napoleon used to place his machinegun positions and his use of blitzkrieg counterattacks with tanks...

[@Gopniksquat]

His use of predator missiles was also tactically magnificent in real life

[@fabienbanane4639]

You forgot nuclear bomb

[@craimaxblack]

Don't forget the air supremacy, it was what really give him this victory

[@nicholasmuro1742]

​@craimaxblack Bad weather. No air available, you silly goose.

[@questlive2338]

It's wild to think they recreated this battle without the Black Hawks

[@keithrickson8522]

"Pay no attention to the mass of people retreating, focus all cannon fire on one single rider getting away for some reason."

[@kevinedwards7206]

that could follow the rider way beyond the actual range of the cannons.. and very rapid fire at that. 😂😂😂

[@velocitymg]

Early version of capture the flag

[@ObliviousOneGaming]

"When all you've played is Warsong Gulch, everything begins to look like a flag carrier" - Abraham Maslow

[@presscockistrash]

He didn't want him to retreat he wanted to win the war that day.

[@charlesphillips1468]

Actually that describes the final inane scene of The Day of the Siege where one guy charged hundreds of Polish Lancers and everyone fired their pistols at him, allowing the Pasha to escape.

[@ErnieAlcala]

All we need now is freaking T-rex to randomly pop up 😂

[@lonewolf5238]

That would have been an improvement

[@Slayer398]

You mean a cyber T-Rex with dual plasma guns, right? ;) Cause I know I heard one roar in the background while the cannons fired!

[@stonefox9124]

Welcome... To Josephine Park...

[@nemesis7895]

@@lonewolf5238 if you want to see Hitler riding a Trex, you can watch Iron Sky 2

[@bradyoung1714]

Napoleon, one of the most iconic commanders in history. Napoleon the movie, 99% about him and Joséphine, 1% a brief summary of his battles

[@vanslade2977]

I have been poisoned and I need to vomit immediately, so I came here... Thank you Riddley Scott you save my life.

[@sunny_muffins]

😂genius comment!

[@blaydeesy2005]

😂😂😂

[@mefisto654]

This is an insult to the tactical masterpiece of real Austerlitz battle.

[@Fulgrim163]

👍

[@dmbmdb2860]

exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@kilbil5390]

Tipki kanuni sultan suleyman’in mohac meydan muhaberesi gibi, tabi orda savas komutani ibrahim pasa imis

[@jahearme4259]

A trap is a trap no matter how fancy the cheese is!

[@dohiB]

sadly the whole movie is an insult

[@aaronadams5885]

If there are any casual watchers who don't know how this battle really went down, here's a brief synopsis so you get a sense of how truly awful this depiction is. Napoleon initially occupies the high ground of the Pratzen Heights the day before, but gives it up in order to lure the allied army into a trap. The allied army, seeing the heights abandoned, seize it. Both armies rest for the night. The next morning, there is a heavy fog that obscures much of the French army on the lower plateau, but the allies can clearly see that the French right flank is weak. They plan to move their left wing off the heights to blow through the French right flank, then turn to envelope Napoleons army. This is exactly what Napoleon wanted them to do. Marshal Davout (seen in this scene, but never named. He's the general with the glasses) arrives on the French right to secure it, holding the allied advance. The allies move troops from their centre to reinforce, which weakens their central position. At that moment, the fog lifts and Napoleon orders the main body of his army to attack the allied centre, which is quickly taken. The allied right flank is now threatened with encirclement, and their commander orders a retreat. Napoleon swings his army around to envelope the allies still fighting Davout. The allies only have one line of retreat, so they flee across a frozen pond, which napoleon blasts with cannon. Its not particularly effective, only a few allied soldiers are drowned, but it doesn't matter because Napoleon has complete victory. As you can see, this scene is about as far away from the real battle as it is possible to depict. I was half expecting napoleon to say "unleash the dragons" with how much of this scene is fantasy.

[@enniodimarcantoniod.g.8388]

Well, I thank you for Austerlitz battle description. I thought the strategy of blast the ice was a fantasy, but now I see that is true!

[@baguettelauncher8839]

dracarys !

[@TK-bh6ir]

Thanks for the description Sir. I’m based near the Pratzen Heights and whole my life I live here. I appreciate your knowledge about the battle 🫡

[@1167400]

What an abomination! Could have been like 'Waterloo' movie, but it wasn't. Such a shame.

[@micky1up]

wrong napoleon didn't initially occupy the high ground he had to take it after three of 4 enemy columns vacated to attack napoleons supposed weak right flank see even you cant get it right

[@jarzantarzanful]

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack carriages on fire off the shoulder of Austerlitz. I watched C-cannons glitter in the dark near the Mönitz Lake. All those moments will be lost in time, like cannonballs in the frozen lake.

[@lionelhutz5137]

Like teardrops in the rain

[@Kurze1988]

Love it

[@azimus1776]

What relationship does this action scene have with the actual Battle of Austerlitz?

[@lonewolf5238]

Pure coincidence

[@Slayer398]

Relativity mostly. In that the relationship was as close that they shared the same name and not much more....

[@marcusHabs]

At least Scott didnt show us scene where Napoleon is riding on the ice horseback with mini cannon on his both hands. ...

[@SDOne-or6vm]

😂

[@danieltemoche6189]

Fr, this scene was so unrealistically inaccurate that I get the feeling there weren't gatlin guns in the french side just cuz they ran out of budget 😑

[@sebastianvella8992]

an eye patch like TRUE GRIT

[@theChaosEnigneer1]

Wait for the Directors Cut! 😃

[@jutzisr]

Shirtless and clutching a cavalry sabre between his teeth...

[@russelldsyder1344]

This fantasy lacks sharks in the water. 😂

[@henryc7548]

Needs more piranhas

[@charlesphillips1468]

With apologies to sharks...

[@ДенисГрачёв-м2ъ]

Crocodiles)))

[@arnowillekes7979]

And tornadoes!! 😂😂😂

[@CdeHavillandMosquito]

It would not have not made less sense if Godzilla showed up.

[@barondesena]

Ridley should have used Bigfoot to attack at his battle scenes because his battles are pure fantasy.

[@jamesrawlins735]

Are you telling me Gladiator ....isn't.....historically accurate?????? Say it ain't so!

[@kearneytaaffe7059]

Bigfoot? Bigfoot isn't real. He could have at least used a Xenomorph

[@themaskedman221]

@@jamesrawlins735 Yes, the Romans using siege machines in a forest on Germanic tribes dressed for the Stone Age was 100% accurate.

[@TheCountofToulouse]

Making a Napoleon movie never works and this movie was the WORST of all of them. In truth, you'd need an HBO series and 10 seasons to capture it all. Everything about his life was extraordinary, his ambition was unrivaled and his genius and energy astonished his rivals and his tactics were studied in every war college. Like the great men of old that he admired, he knew the only way to be great was to be audacious. His Italy campaign alone would take 2 full seasons to do it justice. You could easily split this battle into two episodes, it was so epic in scale. Kutuzof, the Russian Major General in charge of the army warned Alexander, the Russian Tsar that Napoleon was NOT to be underestimated and that he sensed a trap but Alexander would have none of it, he had the numbers, the high ground and from HIS perspective, the French were in a dire situation. By the end of the battle, Alexander was found crying in a hay bale inside a stable in utter shock and completely distraught.

[@merlin7654]

Nelson and Wellington had the last laugh. One destroyed his navy, the other his army, hah!

[@Stripedbottom]

@@merlin7654 And even Wellington was praying at the final stage "Give me night, or give me Blücher."

[@merlin7654]

@Stripedbottom I think he had a general that lost most of his cavalry in a stupid charge otherwise he'd of probably won

[@TheCountofToulouse]

@@merlin7654 Yeah, Nay was not at his best that day.

[@jean-clauderoux3310]

@@merlin7654 L'armée de Wellington se fit démonter à Waterloo et ne due son salut qu'à l'arrivée de l'armée de Blücher. Révisez votre histoire.

[@E1EDITZ-ww]

"Take the position on the higher ground!" *Charges down the hill*

[@kornofulgur]

Napoleons's Austerlitz whole battle plan: staring intensively and having his cannons under blankets.

[@maurice-kn4mv]

serious?

[@kornofulgur]

@@maurice-kn4mv Come on.

[@Markkiisi]

it's cold

[@Oranjisch]

they need sleep too 😂

[@kornofulgur]

@@Markkiisi Well they won't shrink

[@mikeborgmann]

I usually love Joaquin’s performances, but here it feels like he is the joker character who was asked to play Napoleon

[@jamesrawlins735]

He definitely was not served by the script - but yes, it was not one of his best performances.

[@mikemclean676]

and you knew napolian

[@Gravelgratious]

Just imagine this is the dream during the Joker's medically induced coma.

[@karlkobler218]

He had no part playing Napoleon. He can't bring Napoleon's charismatic energy

[@skyguy1988]

this movie doesn't exist. this is one of his worst performances...he mailed it in lol

[@Misguidedchild0351]

The underwater camera man is the real hero…..

[@danashane]

filmed in a tub in Culver City!

[@econecoff1725]

Lots of bloop-bloop-ers

[@Gespense]

"Actual footage" -Ridley Scott

[@Vili-mf4wx]

"Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.” -Sun Tzu "Art of war"

[@realfake8269]

What is missing, is close ups of the Character of Napoleon, the feelings of the soldiers - officers even the enemies, their reactions etc. Now it seems like a Total War warhammer game.

[@sblack48]

what is missing is a decent script, proper casting and a basic understanding of who Napoleon was and how the changes he made to Europe echo to this day. far more important than the feelings of his soldiers.

[@realfake8269]

@@sblack48 I agree that the director didnt study who Napoleon was and his real legacy, but he was not a narcisist self adored lost in social media = he was ADORED by his soldiers, they died for him personally = you can study and exhibit a person by the responses of others, as when you make a docu about a guy you dont ask him, you ask all of his peers/friends/followers/family even enemies about him, so Director could use all that. Feelings of Napoleon and of everyone fighting are the only important thing for a movie, to find out how and why all happened. People's driving force is their feelings, not some algorithm

[@sblack48]

@@realfake8269 Ah I see what you mean. Yes he was certainly revered and not just by his soldiers. His wholesale changes to french laws and society made life better for millions. He was an amazing person and he did all of this before he was 35. But then it went sideways and that is the character arc the movie should have explored.

[@realfake8269]

@@sblack48 YES at last someone mentions his changes to laws and society! I really wanted to see a movie showing him walking around Paris and finding his generals who lost a limp, begging for food. And him establishing hotels des invalides and showing Him doing it not as a robot with an executive order, but as a human with higher empathy and intellect! (maybe I saw as a kid an old movie with this scene)

[@sblack48]

@@realfake8269 not to mention dictating a new civil code off the top of his head which is still in use today around the world and creating schools which are also still in operation and a hundred other enlightened enhancements to society. He wasn't a war monger as this idiotic movie makes him out to be. Europe was at war long before he came along and it's still at war today sadly.

[@WebMentorCR]

For anybody who doesn't know a lot about history, just keep in mind that this scene, along with most of the movie, is quite insulting from a historical vantage point. Austerlitz was a genius execution by Napoleon based on weather, terrain, element of surprise and knowing how the enemy was going to commit their forces.

[@reapercreeper3466]

he must have read sun tzu. one with decent comprehension skills can apply his teachings to every day life, let alone war.

[@raikishuten3802]

but only if he execute it right at Waterloo then....history might have written different ...

[@richfwhact]

From my understanding, he could have ended the war there and finish off the Russian army, but he allowed them to retreat to Moscow

[@arathaemaxus5250]

@@raikishuten3802he almost did. It was very close

[@enriqueslekis3562]

And also an accurate estimation of the time that will take to Davout division to arrive to the battlefield and reinforce his left flank (his weak flank that was a bait for the Russians).

[@dragovuksic9936]

Nothing can be deduced from these scenes of the Battle of Austerlitz. I think Ridley Scott should have used a narrator and a "cartographic view of the battlefield" from the village of Bosenitz in the north to the village of Telnitz in the south to depict the battle. The battle was not decided by any hiding under the tent, but by "Napoleon's idea" to lure the enemy into a predictable attack on the village of Pratzen and the Pratzen mountain (height). The day before the battle, Napoleon was in Pratzen, 01.12.1805. Napoleon in the evening of 01.12. withdrew the army to the Brno Olmouc road. On the Pratzen plain, he placed the reinforced Vandame division. From Pratzen to Telnitz there was only the division of General Le Grand and the Reserve Corps of Light Cavalry under General Beaumont. All the rest of the army was on the Brno-Olmouc road, the 5th Corps (Marshal Lann) defended the road near the village of Bosenitz. Due to the configuration of the battlefield, Napoleon lured the Austrians and Russians into attacking Pratzen and the Pratzen Heights, as well as the villages of Sokolnitz and Telnitz. Moving from north to south at 6 o'clock in the morning, the division of St. Hillarion Napoleon sent from the road towards Sokolnitz to "draw" the enemy to attack towards Sokolnitz. "Old and New Vineyards" remained empty in the center of the battle. General Vandamme's division "flew" into that area. With this, the Austro-Russian lines were broken. With this, Napoleon turned the battle line from north-south to east-west. For the final blow, Napoleon had the entire Guard, Bernadotte's 1st corps, the reserve cuirassier corps, the newly arrived division led by Marshal Davout towards Telnitz and Sokolnitz. The enemy remained disorientated. This ingenious idea of ​​Napoleon could be clearly presented with the help of a map and a few words of the narrator. PS The Battle Of Waterloo Scene is also superficial. I watched the movie a second time and the whole movie is in my opinion: superficial. PS Austerlitz symbolizes the peak of Napoleon as a man, statesman, soldier...Waterloo symbolizes a tired Napoleon, who doesn't even believe in himself. This should have been the main motive of the movie "Napoleon". When a man is sure of what he does, then fortune follows him. Against a tired and insecure man, all the forces turned against him The Battle of Marengo is the beginning of the success of the young Napoleon. From the victory at Marengo, Napoleon begins to be a soldier and a statesman with ambition: "The world is served to me". "Marengo" triggered an unstoppable greatness syndrome in Napoleon. He was basically just a soldier with talent. "Up to a certain point" man can control and direct historical events. There are historical points of "peak amplitude" when events begin to flow in a determined manner that we humans no longer control. This can be seen in events from the French Revolution of 1789 to Waterloo and the Congress of Vienna in 1815. In the Revolutionary events, the hustle and bustle of events, Napoleon simply slipped through the legs of Robespierre and Saint-Gist. The rest is history.

[@ger20cam11]

I agree... but I think it should be hard to show from a filmmaker to an average person, how complex and efficient Napoleon´s tactics were. Still a nice movie to see some moments in Napoleon´s life

[@dragovuksic9936]

It is difficult to make a film under such a broad title "Napoleon"@@ger20cam11

[@dragovuksic9936]

It is difficult to make a movie under such a broad title "Napoleon". One cannot avoid the political background with the figure of Napoleon, since the French Revolution...Jacobins, Brumaire, Germinal, Thermidor...Danton, Robespierre, Directory, Consulate, Empire, Code Napoléon. Love life, Napoleon the politician, Napoleon the soldier...Wars against the Coalition of European Monarchies...Napoleon's role in overthrowing feudalism in Europe...What problems did Napoleon leave Europe as a legacy? Very complicated! What did Napoleon actually have in his head as a plan? Improvisation?@@ger20cam11

[@long-distancerecon6364]

Another guy that thinks he knows it all. Do you study ALL war History. Or just Napoleon? Thats when you will be well rounded. Get outta here. Rivoli was his best. When he picked up the flag and almost charge the causeway. But his men would not follow.

[@dragovuksic9936]

@@long-distancerecon6364 More about Austerlitz! I outlined Napoleon's Plan A in case the battlefield of Austerlitz was covered in the fog that is common in December on the slopes of the Alps. Before the battle, the landscape was shrouded in morning fog for days. The fog was especially needed in the center of the battle line, on the Pratzen plain, where Napoleon placed the Vandame division so that the enemy could not see the division. Apart from Lan's 5th Corps, the rest of the army on the Brno-Olmoutz road was hidden by the forest along the road. (1st Corps, Guards and Cuirassier Corps, Marshal Murat) If the Austro-Russian Army had seen the Vandame Division and vigorously attacked Le Grand Division at Telnitz and Sokolnitz, that division on the right wing of the Grand Armee would have collapsed. But Napoleon foresaw that possibility as well. Divisions of St. Hillarion (which had been moving towards Pratzen since 6 a.m.) and Bessiere's Guards Division which was on the Brno Olmoutz road and was closest to the line from the village of Pratzen to the village of Kobelnitz. In that case, the armies would be placed in two "L"s. The Grand Armee would again have a great advantage if the French army was in the "inner part of the "two letters L" of the front line. Namely, Napoleon could manipulate the movement of units within his line from the "inner side of the front". Also, the French artillery was on that part of the front. The Austro-Russian army would not have had time to move its artillery. Marshal Davout was moving towards the battle and was arriving right on the stretch of line between Pratzen and Sokolnitz at 10 o'clock. And in this case of "plan B" Napoleon would have won the battle only with greater losses. Plan C - If something goes wrong, Napoleon could retreat by road towards Brno.🤣

[@michaelcruz8312]

I feel like I can directly pinpoint at the heart of this movie’s main let-down: Ridley Scott wants the magic, but he doesn’t want to earn it truthfully, he wants to have it now, without any application of thought and care. Gladiator 2 seems unnecessary, and if the follow-up western he makes (presumably an adaptation of Wraiths of the Broken Land) is made and turns out to be good, then maybe that was the change of scenery he needed to escape the “historical-epic” pigeonhole he so often falls into.

[@xXxInFaMYxXx]

The last great movie he made was Robin Hood with Russel Crowe imo but if you want more of a historical epic then the last great one he did was Kingdom of Heaven god damn that was a fantastic movie if you watch the directors cut the theatrical release cut to much out and was ass.

[@Fluor66]

Where's the part when Napoleon releases the Kraken???

[@Indulonman]

As an Austerlitz survivor I can confirm this scene is not a true depiction of the battle.

[@sblack48]

Jeez Joe I knew you were old but Damn!

[@johnywiedzmin]

😂

[@charlesphillips1468]

This is a terrible rendition of the Battle of Austerlitz, which was a fight that lasted all day, with the French giving ground slowly so that the allies thought they were winning, drawing them into a tactical trap. The icy lake part is true, but a bit overdone here. Overall, a complete misrepresentation of the battle, not even close.

[@anthonycosta8816]

more than a bit overdone - the frozen-over water being destroyed by cannon fire as the allies retreat is not only debated on whether or not it even happened, but also only resulted in scores of casualties according to known accounts.

[@Mohawkmarcje]

There were two or three Russian bodies found near a lake, the whole story of fleeing Russians drowning is a total myth.

[@Nobodyneedsabodyanymore]

It's a movie. What do you want an exact reenactment? Go to one of those then.

[@charlesphillips1468]

@@Nobodyneedsabodyanymore Wow, someone pissed on your ammunition bread and took your brandy ration this morning?

[@anthonycosta8816]

@@Nobodyneedsabodyanymore Not even an exact reenactment, just an even basic attempt at staying authentic to the original events. Even if the details are wrong, uniforms, wrong flags or something like that, you could try at least to present something that is at its core the experience of the battle for those involved. Napoleon's victory at Austerlitz was a captivating mix of strategic genius, applied military theory, and tactical opportunity. It shaped Napoleon's reputation in Europe and lives on as his masterpiece until this day. This scene presents a mind-numbingly simple plan ("what if we hide and then surprise them") and tries to pass it off as an example of Napoleon's genius. I understand when people make a point about "we had to change some things to make it a more entertaining movie," and that logic totally applies in a lot of cases. But so many times, the real history is just as fascinating and cinematically spectacular as the crackpot fever dream mishmashes of semi-historically adjacent events that filmmakers decide to put onscreen.

[@frostyab7579]

One thing I can say with absolute certainty, none of the film people has ever been to Slavkov u Brna (Austerlitz). And not one has ever even tried to study up on the facts. Napoleon did not sleep in a tent on the battlefield, he stayed in a very nice house in nearby town of Znojmo. They even have a plaque on the house commemorating his stay.

[@King_of_Railways]

Znojmo Is about 90km😢! By horse it's 2 days away, so he would miss the whole battle 😂😂 Try it better next time!!

[@RREDesigns]

Nah, he just napped by the campfire.

[@lesliesheppard2503]

Waterloo 1970,is a great film.

[@panagdimi]

Yes !!!

[@PrinceChaloner]

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[@PrinceChaloner]

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[@lynnlytton8244]

The non-CGI cavalry attacks are really cool. There's this one aerial shot of the attack on the Wellington squares that nobody has ever topped.

[@lougui12]

Because of the weather, French canon didn’t work once falling on the mud at Waterloo . If not the story will not have been the same … English people don’t realise that you have been difficult to invade because you have the sea, so if you don’t have the natural element things won’t be easy . And just a reminder , the 3 lions are a Normandy symbol as Guillaume le Conquérant invade England and never leave it :)

[@matthewbeesley5850]

Napolean was 36 years old at the Battle of Austerlitz. Why did Hollywood cast this old man for the role? Surely there was someone else both good and young for this role?

[@bonysminiatures3123]

Not seen this in dvd in the stores did they ever release it on DVD ?

[@Cobra13645]

Hard to believe they had 0 clue that water is under the ice 😂

[@capablemachine]

The snow hid it! It was only by luck that guy found it

[@thatdarnmage1515]

especially as timid as those horses looked while walking on it lol

[@enjoy_life_easy.]

Well, it's a movie.

[@theeditorrestrial]

when your lead actor LOOKS like he's trying to act there's a problem.

[@michaeldemarco2415]

A real sinker of a movie.

[@AWMul]

Someone took the time to make it....

[@KingInBlack69]

And from the guy that gave us Gladiator and Alien...i guess his time is over.

[@LadyFairChildVideo]

awww yes, The Josephine Movie plus that napoleon dude.

[@jttctc]

Clicked on the video for the comments, wasn't disappointed :D

[@RussCrowley]

I loved, and still do, the 1970 Waterloo movie. And given the technological advances since, had ultra-high expectations of this movie, the potential, what could be achieved, and was SO looking forward to it. I wish I hadn't have bothered. A complete and utter let-down. You can, perhaps, forgive and forget some of the historical inaccuracies, but with something like Austerlitz, which was Napoloeon's masterpiece, you'd expect them to get a smidgeon of it right. Sadly, not. I mean, even at the Battle of Waterloo... when they announce Blucher and the Prussians have arrived. In this debacle, Wellington looks to his right. The Allies were in the North facing Napoleon to the South. The Prussians came from the East, which when you're looking South is to the left. A small thing, but when you can't even get the basics right, what hope is there for the rest of it. Total garbage.

[@capablemachine]

Left was to the right back then, few people know.

[@bruhbruh-us6gl]

@@capablemachine Bravo, Scott

[@thebigone6969]

It’s like Ridley Scott is on a mission to ruin his own reputation these last few years

[@jamesrawlins735]

I did feel that he did a pretty good job with The Last Duel. I suspect that Gladiator II will wipe that good memory away for me and just make me sad.

[@Theghostdiaries]

he's been overly obsessed with battle scenes at the expense of story his whole career.

[@JPH1138]

@@Theghostdiaries The Duelists may be his best period film, and it's probably not a coincidence that he made it with far too low a battle to think about including a battle scene.

[@coogrfan]

To paraphrase the late, great Douglas Adams: Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike the Battle of Austerlitz.

[@Murz1978-k9q]

Joaquin Phoenix one of the best actors ever!

[@coolbeans7349]

who let admiral akbar out in combat 6:58

[@marekbako7766]

there were no lakes at Austerlitz battlefield..but small ponds..

[@pm71241]

And no mountains like that. ... it's gentle hills without any steep climbs like this

[@bradenhagen7977]

Well you see, this is the battle of Austerlitz Mexico...

[@marekbako7766]

@@pm71241 Im living not too far ftom "Austerlitz"Slavkov u Brna today.I have been there a t battlefield many times.There is other battlefield not too far from Austerlitz ,this was battle at Lamač(bitka pri Lamači)1866 (next to my house)

[@TheBlackhawk1985]

The film doesn't show the truth. On the right flank, where the retreating Russian-Austrian army was defeated by the third corps of General Davout, at that moment Napoleon was in the center, he was not in that area.

[@peepinR]

Hopefully the miniseries being developed by Steven Spielberg for HBO will be better

[@josefavomjaaga6097]

I hope it still will get done, now that this movie was unsuccessful. I fear people in Hollywood will ascribe the failure to the topic rather to the movie simply being bad.

[@jasonmartinez9051]

Apple TV+ could've made this into a series for streaming. Two seasons. Season 1 could've been the French Revolution. Season 2 could've been Napoleon.

[@xavierbreath2227]

If it is half as good as HBO’s Rome, I would watch it.

[@GeniusTotal-r5v]

Like his last Indiana Nursing Home Jones movie

[@spyderman4206]

@user-kg8ik1qq6l the last Indiana Jones was directed by James Mangold, not Stephen Spielberg

[@DavidGavinETC]

3:53 that was probably that dudes highlight of his career 😂 yk acting wise he’s probably always wanted to act like that 😂😂

[@jamesdebord7519]

Yet, you’re a nobody who’s never amounted to anything.

[@stinkybajspeter]

This should have been an HBO miniseries rather than a movie

[@eduardriabov6275]

It's a shame for the great Napoleon. The brilliant victory at Austerlitz was turned into a farce. It was a great battle! With the complete defeat of two armies. And indeed, part of the retreating drowned in the river. It's just a fight for the village.

[@blankityblank6029]

Is this where the Time Bandits would show up?

[@xavierbreath2227]

Lol. Nice!

[@kevinedwards7206]

Kevin! 😂😂

[@mikexf1647]

😂

[@Teeveepicksures]

YES!

[@Yellowtruck55]

​@@kevinedwards7206"Here's to stinking Kevin!"

[@rudy8146]

I had so much hope for this movie after watching the trailer. Twenty minutes into it, me and my wife wanted to just walk out from boredom. Some parts were interesting, yes. However, we just could not get into this one.....and I love history.

[@Masquevertdupatriotetsonopinel]

C'est hélas bien résumé, un film tellement décevant à tous les niveaux. Comment rater à ce point l'histoire extraordinaire d'un Grand homme et stratège militaire comme NAPOLÉON. En plus d'une mise en scène gâchée, Joaquin Foenix est très mauvais dans l'interprétation de l'empereur et Ridley Scott peut-être trop vieux pour une telle entreprise sur grand écran ? Triste à dire, un film qui a sombré dans les abysses comme les ennemis de la FRANCE sur le lac gelé d'Austerlitz, sa plus grande victoire stratégique, écrasante ce 2 décembre 1805. VIVE LA FRANCE 🇲🇫

[@rudy8146]

@@Masquevertdupatriotetsonopinel , I agree. This is not Ridley Scott's finest work. His involvement was one of the biggest reasons I wanted to see this in theaters.

[@JoaoSoares-rs6ec]

I share the feeling, I saw midway with my wife, spent a good part telling her yes it happened, the hour after the details not covered by the movie, we both saw napoleon, I spent the movie saying it didn't happen, our it didn't went like this, didn't bother to explain after the details, it was disappointing,

[@JoaoSoares-rs6ec]

​@@Masquevertdupatriotetsonopinelbut if it was about shaka zulu, you can bet they would get all the details right.

[@Masquevertdupatriotetsonopinel]

​@@rudy8146 🇨🇵 👍

[@quexalcoatl]

Napoleon looks like he's watching a TV in a sports bar.

[@MerchantIvoryfilms]

Scott created one of the best sword battle sequences on film to date with the Opening Battle from Gladiator, however this was not just simply filming action, it was the editing, keeping the camera in a field of 180 degrees, not using ONE single aerial shot, and most importantly....the music the great Hans Zimmer. ALL were missing in this battle, along with any sense of scale, and lacked all intensity, shock or awe.... Funny Enough Hans Zimmer actually wrote music for a battle on the ice with Roman Soldiers (Not Gladiator).....Lets see who remembers it first.

[@DanyaYuvachev]

Nice game. Beautiful graphics. Almost realistic. Where can I find this game?

[@qaj4j58fgs6]

Ita bf7.. You need 5090ti super 4 this

[@judas_cobane]

Man these comments are golden 🤣😭🤣

[@gabrielebillato9575]

Because of how pointless they are?

[@InfiniteZombies777]

Phoenix is like 50 something. Wasn’t Napoleon in his early 20’s?

[@Gurkenglas999]

At The start of The movie, yes. Im Not a History Buff But Hes in His late thirties or something Here.

[@BeastyBite]

napoleon died at 51 and was 26 at the battle of austerlitz

[@markoursuz450]

36 at the battle of Austerlitz

[@lepaul26]

Did the french speak english back then ? 🤔

[@artmaknev3738]

people back then looked much older

[@Nidhoggrr]

I see whoever directed this watched "The Long Night" episode of GoT and thought it was the best thing ever.

[@SplendidFactor]

Austerlitz alone could be an entire movie.

[@bubbaray575]

Love it in the 5:19 mark when the cavalrymans Sabre flopped in the wind. Must be an OSHA sabre. You'll never hear, "you'll put your eye out."

[@Brittney-k2l]

OSHA says it all….😂

[@TheMitchellExpress]

Sabres were flexible weapons. They are known to be floppy. You can see youtube videos of swordmasters it and you can see how much they wiggle. Sabres are designed to be cutting weapons, not necesarily thrusting.

[@armandrodriguez8501]

After "Kingdom of Heaven" you actually believed Ridley Scott was going to make a historically accurate film about Napoleon?

[@xXxInFaMYxXx]

Kingdom of Heaven was never meant to be historically accurate he even admitted to the fact and honestly Kingdom of Heaven directors cut is a fantastic movie.

[@ExistentialWill]

He did the Battle of Hattin right by not depicting it at all, only the aftermath showing the field littered with arrows and the army generally destroyed by lack of water.

[@morinuh]

Where's the scene when the Millennium Falcon swoops in and gives Luke a free shot?

[@alainarchambault2331]

Hmm, the bottom of that lake would be an archaeologist's dream.

[@mattastartes9989]

They left out the part where the monster emerges from the lake and Napoleon kills the beast.

[@HKTimbo]

Sir Ridley had produced some classics in the past and judging by recent interviews he believes he’s above reproach or criticism. The fact is, is that this is an absolute turd of a movie and he will never see it for what it is. Awful.

[@alexwilliamson1486]

What in Ferauds musket ball laden braids was Ridley Scott thinking….

[@sanjithd3343]

Haha, Funnily enough, I think that Fereaud was a better depiction of Napoleon than this movie

[@marcpadilla1094]

Scott is a fantastic storyteller. From Sci-fi to history he creates the most fantastic works Him, Spielberg, and Cameron set a standard of movie making creativity that can never be surpassed, only emulated.

[@okaforkosiso1474]

Napoleon deserves a series. More that 5 seasons

[@Andypratt197]

I'm sorry for my english, it's impossible that they were didn't feel cold without coat at winterstorm during a fight.

[@BeastyBite]

soldiers where always marching and in movement. like skiing you don't get cold that easy. they propably had more coats and fur at campsites. but this movie obviously doesn't give a damn about historical accuracy nor the accurate costume design.

[@alanbilton2547]

It's about historically accurate as Mel Gibson's the Patriot

[@jodofe4879]

But at least the Patriot is still a good movie. And it also doesn't pretend to be historically accurate. Its main characters and their story are all fictional. History in the Patriot is just the backdrop for the fictional story. Napoleon on the other hand pretends to tell the real story of Napoleon, who is not a fictional character but a real historical person.

[@JoaoSoares-rs6ec]

That hole scene is an absolute BS, we know how the battle went, from the previous days to the first hours to the final moment, what they show here is a complete crap.

[@Wildcat221]

It’s just a movie dude chill

[@JoaoSoares-rs6ec]

@@Wildcat221 it's a movie that incorrectly shows actual events

[@Ahrimanh86]

Is it just me or is the music trying to copy Idumea, during the battle of the crater in cold mountain?

[@MrSunlander]

Never saw this. Did Scott include the B-52 that Napoleon used at Waterloo, too?

[@raihanfarrelofficial]

7:25 ICE, IT'S A TRAP!!!

[@treykenley3499]

If only Admiral Ackbar were there to see such a thing. If he were there he would have been able to find a way to have the majority escape. Or at the very least maintain a more organized withdrawal. Guy was in a rag tag band of minor combat capable ships but was able to hold off a major enemy fleet and a massive fortification but still gave them a severe bloody nose even before the station was confirmed to be weak and about to be destroyed. Yes, I know he was fictional, and an admiral is different from a field commander. But the tactics used were still sound and just using one of SW most famous lines "IT'S A TRAP!"

[@mottopanukeiku7406]

First thing I thought as well 😂😂😂😂😂 Mind programming of 70’s/80’s kids.

[@scottlandis6398]

Literally the first thing I thought of was Admiral Akbar when that line was shouted.

[@francoist9520]

The weather was cold and wet, without dry snow.

[@MaryManganaro-q7m]

Stinker

[@MaryManganaro-q7m]

Never stick to history

[@Fredrikschou]

It probably depicts a battle. Not Austerlitz, though

[@Billysimsbaby]

The idea of a FRENCH army wondering around Europe and tearing shit up is hilarious in today's context

[@MrDave5259]

For everyone complaining, if you want a perfect film go do it.

[@jonathanfell688]

Absolutely ridiculous film. The battles were run as if they were in Roman times. Troops chaotically charging each other. Napoleon himself giving verbal orders to artillery. Bad enough to be called childish.

[@markelshout2085]

I thought Napoleon did give direct orders to the artillery. I read that in some battles he personally was helping with the artillery, actually physically pointing the guns in the right direction. He was already commander of la Grande Armée then. So I would believe that he did give direct orders to the artillery.

[@micheldesjardins8813]

Non sense, nothing to do with Austerlitz. Difficult to portray such a battle in a 10 minutes clip. There is actually a good old movie about Austerlitz, and a good old one on Waterloo (1970).

[@michaelcalland801]

In fairness Austerlitz would need a 2 Hr movie of its own to portray it properly . In my opinion why not ? Why not a Napoleon series of 4 or 5 movies culminating with Waterloo ? Hollywood spits out Aquaman & all the other Marval garbage

[@robertledford499]

This portrayal of Napoleon ranks with "The 300".for inaccurate portrayal of history as to be almost comedic.

[@Tusk-ruk]

Thank you

[@Slayer398]

at least that was based on a comic and no-one with 1/2 a brain should have taken it for the actual events.

[@Ben-xj6su]

War like this would have been extremely frightening

[@86hj49gt]

Why not cast French actors for the French parts and narrate in French? We’re big enough to read the subtitles.

[@Wolf88888]

I haven't seen this movie, although I have always had a deep love of military history, especially that of Napoleon and Alexander the Great. I think I will continue not seeing it.

[@plurplursen7172]

The radio system could use a small update

[@Hardeepsingh-fx7ee]

😂😂

[@ekaf3544]

Why? You can hear it, you cant grap the signal and ist directed. It´s perfect. Except if the weather is bad :-P

[@neueregelmessiahcomplex]

EXCELLENT FILM ,et on se fout royalement de la réalité historique 🤩🎥

[@mikkoharro2048]

Nappie had good batteries in his walkie talkie

[@ben-si3dk]

Napoleon sounds completely American when shouting orders

[@Gablesman888]

I heard he also killed three bullies on a subway who were making fun of his laugh. But that may just be a rumor.

[@flywheel986]

Joaquin Phoenix is to Napoleon, as Caesar Romero is to the Joker.

[@gusfifo818]

He was my second favorite joker after Jack Nicholson. You give Phoenix too much credit.

[@flywheel986]

@@gusfifo818 Heath Ledger #1

[@orwoodwellson685]

Uhhh more like Jared Leto