Blade 230 S V2 - RealFlight 9.5 vs. Actual Flight!

[@JonsRC]

RealFlight 9.5: 01:40 Jon's Actual Flight: 10:42 Dad's Actual Flight: 14:51

[@chester82gtstang]

Jon, you did way better than I did!. I just picked up a 230 S yesterday and got maybe 20 seconds of flight time. I never did a trim flight because I didn't know it was needed. I think I was over correcting big time so I hit the panic button and it went inverted hard left into my garden. Diced up some poblanos, a main rotor grip, which let the rotor flop into the canopy destroying that too. Thank goodness for amazon!.

[@calimark7448]

Thanks! Nice video. I had some nano helli's in the past and I'm looking to get back into the hobby. Realflight is gonna be my first purchase.

[@jasbirrajput8663]

Pops flew really well … you have a great teacher lil Jon

[@tughillrc6327]

Thanks for spending this time and doing this video. It made the realflight 9.5s simulator time spent more valuable because crashing the simulator cost nothing. 👍✔⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐🎬🎥🗽

[@JonsRC]

Thank you!

[@nathankendall3467]

Great video I enjoyed the comparison. Cool that you and your dad can share a hobby too.

[@madnbad1408]

Jon thank you much for the video. Keep up the good work!! Subscribed after 10 seconds of watching you. You are PPC. Polite Professional and Courteous in your vid..

[@JonsRC]

Thank you!

[@zanegracie39]

Totally enjoyed that, impressive that a flight sim has helped you's out in flying the model.

[@JonsRC]

Thank you!

[@bigalsunit]

Awesome video man! Great job!

[@JonsRC]

Thank you!

[@Wings_of_foam]

Jon, I really like your channel. I hope your channel grows!

[@JonsRC]

Thank you!

[@BayonasRCWorld]

Excellent! Keep up the great work.

[@JonsRC]

Thank you!

[@trexinvert]

Great sim flying. You have "respect" for the simulation and "transfer of skill" to real field flying an actual rc heli. Most people need to crash a few times and waste $$$, before they develop that respect for their simulator. A few tips: a.) Number #1 rule. Not an plane = No sweet spot for the servo sticks to "hold and relax". Fingers are jiggling all the time. Add some wind (5mph & gust) because unless you fly indoors it will never be smooth. Especially, flying a small rc heli. Flying an rc helicopter to be able to have precise control or 3d flying requires developing quick "kung fu" finger with total absolute orientation(from sim training). a.) Do not fly in a circle. Shoot for a square. This teaches you that heli's do not "bank" like planes, they slide(like drift cars) and pitch(fwd/back like a porpoise) to control speed. You know that banking with a plane = loss of elevation, right, same thing with heli. Also, flying in a square teaches you orientation. If you just dive/hold a turn you never know what angle you will recover from = orientation confusion. b.) Change scenery to the one with the runway and street lines. Practice driving over lines like you are driving a car. Fly slow, turn flat with absolute control. It's all about leaning fwd/back and side/side. c.) For hover orientation practice position the model right in front of your screen. As, if you are flying 5 ft away from your face. Closer = more control. Ofcourse, you can not do this with your real model in front of your face.

[@JonsRC]

Thank you for the awesome advice!

[@RayRay-zc2ed]

What mode is best on the controller, 1 or 2, or is it personal preference? Talking about the control sticks on the controller.

[@trexinvert]

@@RayRay-zc2ed Great question. I've been out of it for awhile, so I had to google this. I think 99% of rc heli pilots fly mode 2. That setup looks like this. Left stick = blade pitch & rudder. [note: throttle = main blade rpms is held steady or follows linear throttle curve in tx, thus lift is mainly controlled by main blade pitch] Right stick = (fwd/bk) & banking(left/right). It makes the most sense for control. Your left stick will require rock solid up/down pitch control, while jiggling side/side for rudder control. Then the right stick controls total swash plate movement: fwd/back/side/side and you can tune your tx to have equal fwd/bk and side/side stick throw. Equal feel needed for flying sideways and even piroflips. However, Aussie's and some airplane flyers like mode 1. In this mode, the swashplate movement is now controlled across two separate stick motion. It would seem "natural" until you realize that an RC helicopter is not an airplane and is naturally unstable. It is a jiggle fest. That makes controlling a helicopter extra challenging if you want absolute hover control, invert control and 3d stunt flying. However, if you just want to fly easy circles in one direction and not hover too long it can be done. Just my humble opinion, I'm sure some Aussie's and airplane flyers will give some feedback. Heck try it for yourself both ways on your simulator, it should be able to switch you. Have fun.

[@RayRay-zc2ed]

@@trexinvert now since you explained it, it makes sense to me. Thank you for the explanation and the help. Thank you very much.

[@trexinvert]

@@RayRay-zc2ed You're welcome. I was re-reading my last comment. I caught a few mistakes and revised. Since, I haven't flown for a while I am starting to forget a lot. I can't believe I learned all this at one time. You know all this info is on the internet, and it's fairly easy to separate "preferences" from "best practices".

[@tbonesixtynine]

Just a remark, I dont know what you are doing with the trims, but FBL helicopters are not supposed to have trimming enabled, as that will register as a continuous control input. If you need trimming something you need to do it on th FBL (or with the servo links). You should *always* have all trimming set to zero on FBL helis and even better disable trimming all together! Cheers.

[@JonsRC]

Thanks for the tip! Actually, Horizon Hobby reached out to us previously and told us as well! Thank you!

[@daveday5507]

I have Realflght 9.5 and two examples of the 230S. Realflight doesn't fly like the real thing, it's easier to fly. Realflight gives an instant response. The real thing thing gives a delayed response because the servos take time to return when you release the sticks. Try it on the bench and you will see what I mean. The real thing can get into a pendulum movement from side to side which is difficult to stop.

[@marksikorsky5692]

Very nicely done!!

[@tazgws]

This is a great idea for video's.

[@rickmccloud7306]

Jon. Enjoying your video. By any chance could you give me info on how you programmed your control to run 230s in real flight also sitting up real flight to work with it. Thanks

[@Dynaglide92rc]

Help Please . Collective pitch is not working . Throttle works and so does Rudder on left stick . Right gimbal is fine. Elevator and ailerons move fine . Please help .

[@timbacchus]

Is there a safe in the copters? It sounds funny. Awesome flying Dad.

[@JonsRC]

There is! Three Safe modes: Beginner, Intermediate and Advanced

[@dddfsd6122]

Hi there is the options for flight mode allso aviable on real helicopter or ony in simulation

[@JonsRC]

Hi! The real RC heli also has the 3 different flight modes!

[@dddfsd6122]

@@JonsRC thanks John other question when i Start a flyt with blade on simulator there is no Window on Display for switching between the Modus beginner and so on how can i get this Window

[@JB6seven1]

heli action! nice!

[@JonsRC]

Thanks!

[@randyhavener8368]

I was sure that Jon's friend was a "plant" and was going to do some nice 3D but Not...They are getting there though, The 270 does make enough torque for the expert to have fun with.

[@JonsRC]

Yeah my dad and I were still learning RC helicopters. Please check out my newer T-Rex 500 and 470L videos on my channel. My skills have much improved since then. Thanks!

[@3zRattl3s]

i have this b ut it says my controller is not connected when i do have it connected, any ideas to fix?

[@threestacks43movin21]

Does real flight help a beginner to fly the actual Heli

[@JonsRC]

Absolutely! It is how my dad and I learned to fly RC helis! The physics is not 100% identical to the real world but it is definitely very close enough to prepare you for the real thing!

[@threestacks43movin21]

@@JonsRC thanks I bought the software

[@countryacademy9053]

I can not get modes or panic to work on rf9.5. It's 1 mode or nothing....

[@rcdepron]

Slt je suis français moi aussi j'ai une chaîne. Tu pilote bien👌

[@davidmartin1203]

Are you running windows 10 and did you get digital download or the actual box.

[@JonsRC]

Yes. Windows 10 with the full retail box that comes with transmitter.

[@ralphfrasier2079]

Hello! I really enjoyed seeing the comparison of the Blade 230S on RF vs the real thing. What's the difference between the steam version and the DVD version? I have been using the DVD version on windows 7. Works great for me. My brother purchased the steam version and cannot get the software to recognize the controller. He is running a windows 10 gaming system.

[@ironmover5800]

I like real flight 9.5s for planes , not so much for heli’s

[@fredaw61]

We’re you flying with stabilization on or off?

[@JonsRC]

Hi! For helicopters, I’m a newbie so I only fly on Safe Select beginner mode. This has stabilization . I’m trying to get more comfortable with Intermediate and Advanced mode.

[@breinertorres5607]

Can fly with wind?

[@Mr.Gribble]

yes

[@Mr450pro]

Don’t practice with such a small Heli on sim. Pick a 700 and you will progress faster

[@old-rcplane-phart]

U definitely DON'T want a ratcheting throttle on a helicopter! 1 click can be way too much! (Why old heli transmitters had no ratchet & planes did, years ago). TOO, back when I was learning heli, we had a mandatory 10 full tanks of hovering in a day BEFORE even considering forward flight.