Router Table Dust Collection Box (Part 2)

[@jonathancorbett1216]

A Great build, one addition you may want to consider is routers cool themselves mostly by blowing air from the flutes across the motor and out towards the bit end of the router. Sitting this in a box means the flutes are trying to blow dusty air across the internals of the machine. A shop vac or dust collector tries to create a vacuum inside the box, pulling air the opposite way, this heat stresses the router motor. If you rig up a source of clean air to the end of the router using a suitably sized piece of flexible shop vac tubing, clamped/ziptied to the end of the router just slipped over enough to cover the flutes, feed the other end of the tubing through the same diameter hole in the box you can feed the router with much cleaner air, it won't get heat stressed and the vacuum will be working slightly better too.

[@weberwoodshop]

Jonathan Corbett Thanks! I understand the concept of what you are saying but in my opinion and experience that’s just way overthinking it. This is a huge and very robust router motor, designed for constant & daily use in a professional cabinet shop. I don’t put anywhere near the amount of stress on it that it is designed to withstand. It’s got plenty of power when I need it but it gets relatively occasional use for short periods of time in my home shop. Plus I’m pulling a constant supply of cool air through the box with the vacuum. I’m certain it will last my lifetime as well as my that of my two sons before it burns up. And by the way I’ll qualify this by mentioning that I spent many years as the manager of a used tool shop where I bought, sold, tested and repaired used tools that had been put through every kind of abuse you could imagine. So I’m well aware of what these machines can and can’t endure.

[@michaelbottalico]

Great job on both video and dust port. I can't wait to build one Thanks

[@stormman8393]

Great video Blake. I concur with the below comments. Very informative. Keep the little tips coming too, mate, like the magnet. Brilliant.

[@i679n5]

Have you tried the incra clean sweep inserts? Think you will get even more down the dust collection with it :) Also how much stuff get on the router (how clean is the inside of the box)?

[@jaywuchner9342]

Nice project. What about a fresh air port for clean air to cool the router motor?

[@TheRPhelps24]

The quality of your videos is far beyond the age of your channel. I wish you success in seeing the progress of your channel catch up! I too have a one car dedicated garage like you and it's been great seeing your workflows and solutions!

[@nicklagios5094]

I thought this was a great video and design of your router boc is realy good. I'm getting a new table saw and will be building a new router table extension and plan to incorporate your idea. Would you be able to provide some additional detail on the wiring. I've purchased the same switch. Thanks.

[@Rich32262]

Only one thing I would have done different is leave about a foot of cord to the female end of the extension cord for use on some other project down the road. Thanks for taking the time, great video.

[@ChauHuh]

Nice build. If you punch a bunch of holes in the top plate that your material rides over you'll grab a lot more of that random dust.

[@weberwoodshop]

That’s a good idea, I’ve seen those holes on newer saws that have dust collection.

[@budracer1]

Incra cleansweep inserts ...made for just that

[@joedance14]

Nice work! The paint job almost looks like glow-in-the-dark, good when the power goes out! ;-)

[@allenrosenblum3654]

How are you introducing fresh air into the box to increase suction? Do you plan to add another dust collection port to your fence ? Good video !

[@Hiksan5]

2nd half even better than the first. If you keep up this quality you have the potential to reach the masses!

[@weberwoodshop]

Thanks Ty!

[@RSWarriorLuv2LafMcc]

Great video quality, excellent cinematography, the music wasn't distracting, and your voice over wasn't forced or overly enthusiastic; you were informative and conversational. LOVED IT! Reminds me of Frank Howarth a bit (without the stop motion), which from me his about as high of a complement as I can give. I expect to see your subscriptions grow exponentially. Glad I found you.

[@jbmorrow5390]

Great how to build - when I see these router boxes I always wonder how much fine dust gets into the router itself? Any thoughts or findings?

[@malcolmsplace]

Well done! a very good video. Did the box reduce the sound of the router very much? Regards Malcolm

[@donovanlucibello6420]

Shop vac for the win! Great project, thanks for posting.

[@puckluck2357]

Great build, I need to get some desalt yellow too! Looks good!

[@RJSDZNS]

Love your shop bro!!

[@akbychoice]

Nice job. In a lazy way I was thinking of using a 6 gallon bucket under the router.

[@weberwoodshop]

That would probably work!

[@markbeiser]

I was thinking of doing that because a rectangular box covering my lift won't clear the bevel adjustment wheel on my 1951 vintage right tilt Delta Unisaw.

[@michaelkaye4998]

Nice job. Incra has different inserts to allow more dust extraction.

[@austinstubblefield9907]

Great video. Something you could try to even further reduce the dust is to use the Incra Cleansweep Magnalock Rings. They have gaps to allow additional dust collection while using your router.

[@myopinion6328]

You will make a name for yourself if you keep producing educational videos...and not videos that are commercialized like some of the KZbinrs do...

[@ZacJones]

I second that!

[@ubuntu4556]

I third that! Great video....I'm just beginning my woodworking but I'm hooked. Very inspiring video

[@jamesfoskey2804]

So youtubers do this for a living and the money has to come from somewhere.

[@millenialtrucker8566]

@My Opinion, and that my good man is a fact

[@redscortgt93]

I understand some youtubers/woodworkers do this for a living, but I absolutely don’t like watching the, “look what I have” videos. :/ I’m not a millionaire, nor do I get free stuff if I put it in a video. Lol

[@DannyKPhotography]

In the amount of time it took to watch 3 videos your Sub count went up by at least 50-100! Congrats buddy and keep up the good work!

[@roypittelko8490]

Nice job but you could put a vacuum hose at the top of the table . When I built mine I have it in the fence and plan on putting one below. ??

[@yanglu8044]

Good job. I built a very similar box as yours under Incra table. I also put the vacuum port on the side. The issue I have is there was always some wood dust deposit at the bottom of the box. How did your box work for you? Do you need to open the door to vacuum from time to time? If I built it again, I think I would open the port under the bottom, just like Cleansweep does.

[@madscatt1063]

Good videos with both substance and style. Subbed and clicked the bell notification, keep the videos coming.

[@weberwoodshop]

Cool, thanks I appreciate it!

[@1987gnXtreme]

At the end when you were pushing the dust to the router bit hole, I was like "WTF is he doing? He's going to take his hand off". Then I realized the router wasn't on hehehe.

[@weberwoodshop]

Dennis Fawver ;)

[@wolfreicherter748]

really good stuff, but I think I d want to know more about how you set up your table saw station and the whole Workshop instead seeing what you re building with it. : D

[@barstad-9591]

I’ve never seen a jigsaw go that slowly; good save.

[@markbeiser]

A lot of people don't seem to realize that there are trigger positions between all the way on and all the way off. ;)

[@marvinwilliams4223]

I hope you upgraded r the plates that's have the slots in them to reduce more dust. I plan on doing so this black Friday

[@tvanloon3995]

Awww crap. Now I have router bit envy too! 😫

[@weberwoodshop]

One at a time ;)

[@markfields5278]

What's the vertical height of the box compared to the router? Basically, the gap from router to base.

[@owenjennings8575]

Very nice job.

[@weberwoodshop]

Thanks :)

[@jackmarashlian2463]

Very well done, Like to tell you for that incra top magnelite has set of inserts with positioned slots on the to"of the inser " and that reduces the dust to practically ZERA. Thank you in advance cheers from OZ jack Marashlian

[@johnfisher4910]

Thanks, Blake! Doing this one tomorrow. Going with "Delta Gray", though...

[@MaybeDave]

My wife always asks me if I'm watching "woodworking porn." Your soundtracks aren't going to help haha

[@weberwoodshop]

Bow chicka bow wow...

[@douglasurner2119]

Nice job! Appreciate you taking the time to do this. I often watch with the sound off so that I don't disturb my spouse and the dogs and your videos work well without words. That's a nice trick. I noticed your drawer of router bits. Do you remember where the bit holders came from? If you had the time it would be great to add links to materials is the video description.

[@snowystuds]

Good stuff! Love the video.

[@narrowboatintention2996]

Your videos are interesting and well produced, so I subscribed. There is one thing I noticed in this video is that you coiled the spare cable for the router supply. The reason why manufacturers of coiled extension leads require the user to totally uncoil the extension lead before using is because it can heat up. The coil is essentially producing an induced magnetic field that creates heat. In a small confined space with sawdust this might be a real problem.

[@weberwoodshop]

Thanks for the heads up. Fortunately that box is actively air cooled since I never use the router without the dust collector attached so there will never be any heat (or dust) build up.

[@daverowe5351]

Hey Blake - after using this Router Dust Box for a while do you see a need to add additional venting for better air flow and to keep the box clean of dust? I love your approach and and making one now - keep it up!!!

[@weberwoodshop]

Dave Rowe no the intake is around the router bit. It works great as is.

[@daverowe5351]

@@weberwoodshop thank you sir just need to paint and wait for the dust port to arrive then mount to router table!!

[@frankwice4864]

Please in the future use no12 . Too big is no problem but too small can be a problem

[@Alan.livingston]

Looks great. After using it for a while is there anything you would change or any places inside the box you have noticed saw dust collecting?

[@weberwoodshop]

Nope, works as intended but I’ve only had it a couple weeks.

[@oobaka1967]

Throw in a fence with dust collection and you'll be set

[@veepsgarage]

I like those stop switches you are using. Where did you buy them?

[@weberwoodshop]

I think from Grizzly but you can probably find them on Amazon too. Search “safety paddle switch”

[@veepsgarage]

Blake Weber thanks

[@jessjulian9458]

That small amount of dust on top of your router table could be sucked away by drilling some holes in the router plate. That would give more area for the vacuum to do its job. Or you could order clean sweep plates from incra, as I see you are using incra products now. Thanks for sharing your talents and experience.

[@weberwoodshop]

They even make those magna plate inserts with slots in them for that reason but thats a good tip.

[@lexiams5973]

Nice work so far Blake. Looking forward to future videos. One question, how is your miter saw dust collection run and are you happy with it? Thnx

[@weberwoodshop]

The saw has a dust port that sucks right behind the blade and attaches to that shop vac below the table. That gets most of the small/dangerous particles that would otherwise go into the air. The rest of the chips are contained in that “hood” that the saw sits in and I just vacuum them up as needed. It works pretty good for now but some day I will add a dust collection system to the shop and pipe it to that hood.

[@N5omn1ac]

great job! This is my 3rd vid of yours, halfway through the first video I saw, I subscribed. Part 1 of this was my 2nd and I completely agree about filming while building...you are creating 2 projects at once. I've filmed hours of my projects and have yet to upload anything...time to get to it...anyways, I just have to say the nerd in me sees PacMan yellow and not Dewalt lol... continuing binge watching your vids, keep it up

[@weberwoodshop]

N5omniac thank you!

[@tommcdonald1746]

Are you concerned that your router motor may get too hot being in a closed case?

[@weberwoodshop]

Tom McDonald no. The box is constantly air-cooled by the dust collection.

[@mathc1rca]

5:44 That's actually a really nice tip.

[@weberwoodshop]

Glad you liked it :)

[@jimsjacob]

Hey, great vid! I enjoy your commentary along with the background music. How is the performance within the box? The power cord for the router and the routing of the cable for the single ganger outlet made it look like a tight fit. Are you getting any impacted sawdust as a result? Would you go for a slightly larger box if you had to do it again? I’m thinking of doing the same thing with my TS extension and wondered if a larger box would be better... Thanks again! Hope there is more content coming. 👍

[@weberwoodshop]

It’s interesting that you noticed and are the only one to ask... I didn’t have much space behind it due to the blade adjustment wheel on the table saw but in retrospect I could have made it a bit wider. Not really sure it matters though, it seems to work fine and I haven’t had any dust build-up.

[@jimsjacob]

My extension is a tad larger, so I would have the clearance for a larger box. Of course, you could shorten that cord on the router, but then it would be solely dedicated to that task and since you are not having an issue, it would be best not to. Moot point at any rate since it’s not showing an issue. Great build sir!!

[@DB-dj6zk]

Great to see it in action fantastic job. Word of caution though, I wouldn't put my hand near a running tool. Just sayin'

[@darren7650]

Nice project. I cringed when you cut that extension cord. I would have left a leader of at least 6" so I could splice that if needed for other future purposes.

[@weberwoodshop]

Things are better with a dedicated purpose.

[@RonKillian]

Why not clean sweep rings? Amp it up :)

[@MrTrex35]

I am very curious to see how you rigged up the Sawstop Blade guard onto your DW746, please share!

[@weberwoodshop]

I've had several requests for that, I'll put more details about it in a future video for sure. The short version is that I just attacked the base of it with a grinding wheel until it fit :)

[@MrTrex35]

Blake Weber thank you! Even some closer pics of the install would be nice,

[@ttttenney]

It"s almost a year since you made this video, how do you you like your dust collection and what would you do different? BTW - great video. I'm doing one just like it, but with a Plexiglas door.

[@weberwoodshop]

It works great! Plexiglass is a good idea.

[@TheFalconJetDriver]

I built a box around my router, and used a 5 inch hose for the dust collection attached to my DC. I also used the neodymium magnets to hold the door closed. Nice job on the video and box.

[@gadget01]

Nicely done, Blake. I've been tempted to order the Incra Clean Sweep, but... it's just a box. I've been meaning to enclose my router lift like this and a search for examples led me to your videos. The only thing I might suggest is to consider isolating the router motor's ventilation from the dust.

[@weberwoodshop]

Thanks! The shop vac suction seems to do a pretty good job at pulling the dust away from the motor.

[@trainwon5699]

Awesome thanks

[@johnbauer3801]

how do you keep the router motor cool? you're sucking dust into your router from the bottom of the box...

[@weberwoodshop]

John Bauer it’s connected to a shop vac. So the dust is sucked out the bottom of the box. Also it is actively pulling a fresh supply of cool air through the box.

[@houch7640]

top job!

[@weberwoodshop]

Thanks!

[@eagha50]

Good job, thanks. Did you use 3/4" Plywood?

[@weberwoodshop]

Thanks! 1/2"

[@eagha50]

Thank you.

[@millenialtrucker8566]

I wish YT would let us see the 11 einsteins that thought they can do better since they disliked it

[@drklucavi]

i think the latch needs to be painted black... also subbed

[@hazembata]

Alright, so make a how-to on the wiring. I'm totally doing that with my router and table saw.

[@weberwoodshop]

Cool you should do it!

[@TheRPhelps24]

Hazem Bata, from what I can see is that he just has one power cord going to the wall from his entire station. The incoming power cord goes to the outlet that you see on the side of the new dust box. That is the table saw's regular power plug you see plugged into that outlet. The outlet then supplies the power (via wire routed inside dust box) to the new safety shut off switch that turns on the router. I like the idea of repurposing a heavy duty 12 gauge or better extension cord as it's more pliable that just using romex and is more durable and safe! Blake, I just found your channel last night and love it. I recently put my router table into a wing of my table saw as well and have been brainstorming a more suitable power solution. You've helped me tinker out the visuals to see it in action!

[@hazembata]

Thanks Phelps.

[@5309backbeat]

LoL- I was born on a pirate ship 😂

[@weberwoodshop]

huh?

[@5309backbeat]

@@weberwoodshop You have to say it with your fingers in your mouth opening it It's a bad joke

[@paulsmith9868]

That looks like an Incra router plate. They make inserts called Clean Sweep that would take that dust you had to sweep up and put it in your box.

[@weberwoodshop]

Paul Smith yes I should get those some day.

[@chucksandberg1]

Blake Weber you should get some today. I have never regretted getting mine. Also the the plug is nice when using just the table saw. Love the video just the way you did it

[@markkoons7488]

Have you seen Ed Stiles' video on router table dust collection? I'm including his insights regarding cooling air into my new set up. Here's a link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/onrdqnh-j99msJI

[@nataliemendoza6479]

Ps, I'm an incra addict too

[@markbeiser]

I'm pretty sure my neighbor thinks I have an Incra brand table saw, and that the JessEm stock guides are the only 3rd party accessory. :D