Shop Work: Improving Dust Collection

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I recently bought a new miter saw (Bosch Axial Glide) and have been a little disappointed with the dust collection that it had. It was still vastly superior to the stock dust collection I've experienced on other saws, but I guess I was just hoping for more. I decided to perform an experiment and compare 3 common solutions to the problem followed up with my own custom designed dust shroud. In this video you get to see just how effective each solution is at capturing dust as well as whether or not my creation is any better. It's a fun little experiment that has some surprising results!

[@skippylippy547]

A refreshingly nice video with humor and excellent videography! Thank you. :)

[@donaldfbaer5196]

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[@donaldfbaer5196]

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[@tianwang1630]

Exactly, just discovered thus channel today, quite humorous yet tons of really good stuff

[@psedach]

Loved it - "instantly make my mistakes permanent" great 🤣🤣🤣

[@willyzook]

Yes!! lol

[@aarondcmedia9585]

Gluing it to the saw was inspired. Thanks for the outtakes and the embedded humour and the final result. Great stuff.

[@jasonsilva4219]

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[@Fixthisbuildthat]

Dude, this is a great solution for 90 degrees! Well done!

[@FishersShop]

Thanks Brad! 😀

[@gurshaanbasra3639]

@@FishersShop what about angles?

[@christianscustoms6429]

@@gurshaanbasra3639 watch the video

[@gurshaanbasra3639]

@@christianscustoms6429 sorry I don't know why I ever wrote the comment

[@robertbirch2186]

Love the out takes at the end, thought I was looking in a mirror!

[@Bjornarp]

"i borrowed a scale from my neighbours meth lab" literally dying! i breathed in a mouthfull of pepsi xD

[@PorqueNoLosDos]

...I spewed my Coors light across the table.

[@BradCozine]

At least you only " breathed in your Pepsi", instead of having "snorted your Coke".

[@Jevandtieriel]

love it!

[@deanaoxo]

he clearly didn't teach you about grams. . . js and for me, it was the end of my coffee, stuff is difficult to get off the keyboard. . .

[@huntermark1160]

I spewed coffee on my computer screen and the glasses I was wearing!

[@galamonkey]

It’s 9:40pm on Saturday night. I’m watching a guy weigh sawdust on KZbin.

[@OlleErikssonL]

The realization just hit me! ;)

[@impactajuvenile]

Are you his neighbor? Did he bring back your scale?

[@megano.1169]

@@impactajuvenile 🤣🤣🤣

[@benpedersen360]

Dude! Me too!

[@TheJcdm327]

What else can you do during quarantine? I've watched the entire Big Bang Theory series 10 times.

[@KomarProject]

Drew that’s such a great idea!!! And seams like it works awesome. Once I stop being lazy and finish my insanely enormous miter station I’m going to incorporate your design into it

[@stephanstephan6185]

Man I've seen some huge dust collection cabinets that almost fully enclose the back half of the saw. Really only good for a permanent mount and a non portable saw. In any case, the difference in massive amounts of material and time would only serve to close that 4% gap in collection. Your little doodad takes the cake. Simple, cheap, removable, and it allows the saw to remain portable. Nicely finnessed solution buddy. Good on Ya!

[@FishersShop]

You got it exactly Stephan! Thanks!

[@johnwurst6691]

A woodworker with a sense of humour doing a scientific project. Well done mate. Now I know I'm not alone....

[@paulsanders4929]

My thoughts too John, there are some more woodwork and tool nerds!

[@richardmorano9976]

As a retired mechanical tech, I love the weighing test. Best way to evaluate your different configurations.

[@Conservator.]

3:50 “Using a square I can hold things at 90° and then I hit it with some activator to instantly make all my mistakes permanent” 5:30 “. . . and then proceeded to get glue all over my table saw” 6:18 “ . . . and then after several years of filing I was able to turn that circle into an oval“ Lol 😂

[@JustJimWillDo]

While watching, I was like, "He's lucky he isn't gluing that box to the table of the mitre saw." And then came the out-takes! 😂

[@MarkTurnbull]

I thought, "I'd have glued it to the saw if I tried that." Glad I'm not alone

[@thinusenslin]

Exactly my problem. Same saw, sam dust problem. Thx for the idea 👍🏻

[@chaseowens1122]

Laughed many times. I have that saw and it is horrible with dust. I’ve watched a million of these as well as hacked up and made three ducted systems now. Only thing I can see that will increase your percentage more is to somehow make that hard turn into something softer. Like a rounded turn. Stumpy nubs found that those square surfaces kill efficiency and I think even on the scale of your box making it just a little more organic inside will yield even better results. I unfortunately work as a finish carpenter, flooring installer, gate/fencing carpenter, and just about whatever my wife can come up with on the weekends. Even though I have a dewalt compound (non slider) as my job site saw, I’m renovating both of the units of our duplex so my Bosch has now turned into my lungs’ worst enemy! Thanks for the vid and keep up the wit; I love it!

[@rauldemoura2417]

I love the out takes. It’s so “true to life!”

[@BarkingIron]

Great idea and solid outcome. Thank You for the videos and your commentary is awesome.

[@frankjenkins2668]

Your videos are always educational, enjoyable and entertaining. I can see myself in all of your "out takes!" Thanks for all you do for all of us!

[@FishersShop]

Thanks, Frank!

[@michaelcurtis4297]

Enjoyed the presentation. Showed several solutions and how they stacked up against one another without becoming rocket science. LOVED the humor!!

[@smitho1108]

LOVE your straight faced humor and how you emphasize your mistakes! Reminds us all that we're not the only ones who have an oops moment...... Oh yea, lotta good info too, thanks!

[@joedance14]

Just watched this video again. I have to say, my wife and I both really enjoy your sense of humor! It’s good to get reminded every so often that we need to keep things in perspective. For my part, I’m still trying to get organized, the workshop was too small, moved into the garage and it is currently overflowing with too much “stuff”, tools, stands, cabinets, benches, tables, etc. And of course, trying to get better dust collection, more wood storage, properly aligned tools that will cut square, or straight. I know, don’t blame the tool. But seriously, some tools are ridiculously difficult to align. And they refuse to stay aligned. Ah well, as the saying goes, it keeps me off the street corner. Perspective! We have to be able to laugh at ourselves. When we lose that, we’re in serious trouble. God bless, take of yourselves, stay safe!

[@FishersShop]

Thanks, Joe! Glad you're liking the vids

[@OldePhart]

"instantly make all my mistakes permanent"... that and the Turretts episode at the end reveals a kindred spirit. New Sub!

[@themanwiththeplan9397]

Most of my cuts are also at 90 degrees. The problem is when I get in a hurry, I sacrifice improvements I've made for the sake of time. That's the problem I have with most solutions like this... I'd get in a hurry and suddenly have to cut angles, and I'd right through it. But being able to remove it that quickly? PERFECT. You rock. I'm going to do this for my Hitachi... Probably with some modifications to both the box and the saw. Thanks. If only more social media was about exchanging ideas instead of exchanging scantily clad selfies. I view those people as extras in this movie we call life. Extras don't have enough talent to have an important part. They're not worth much. But if they weren't there taking up that space, it'd probably be weird.

[@jerrymorrison2956]

I got one of these saws(used) over the weekend. Once I repair the tilt lever your dust collection will be my first modification to it. Thank you for your videos. Very informative and entertaining.

[@ArmyVet76]

I just upgraded to the same model Bosch a few months ago. Love it and I might try your dust boot to see if I can screw it up more than I have with my failed attempts at different ones.👍🏼

[@PaulSmith-oy8xp]

Absolutely - perfect combination of information and (really clever) entertaining dialog. Well done!

[@thomask4836]

I love watching your videos. I am almost finished with my shop which took 4 years just to mod my tool stations. I have a similar saw mounted on a cart that I built. I think of it more as a sawdust spray unit than a miter saw. I pick which area of my shop that I want covered with sawdust, and just move the cart to that spot. I can cover anything! Thanks for sharing a good solution!

[@millerasm]

This is how instructional videos should be done. Humor, knowledge, and the results of what your trying to accomplish.. great job and I'll be using your idea for dust collection.

[@ThatGeekyMaker]

Your videos, your craftsmanship, and your sense of humor are terrific!

[@FishersShop]

Thanks so much. :)

[@markgreatrix5511]

Love the build, love the humor, love the outtakes. Perfect :)

[@larsrosenquist8277]

A very good solution. I have been working with dust exstraction proffesionally, and I guest that the increase is mainly fine dust. The dust that is irritating and very dangerous. Well done and thank you for sharing. Lars Rosenquist, Sweden

[@bluesky6327]

That was awesome. I’ve been planning a huge dust shroud for ages. Going to take my plans in a whole new direction. Love your sense of humor. I stopped the video three times to tell my husband what you said.

[@jshobe4114]

Loved the last outtake. Watching you using the CA glue throughout this video I kept thinking "What skill this man has because I would have surely glued pieces to my saw doing it that way". Haha, I was right!!!!

[@sleesanders6064]

Great vids. Love the outtakes. Glad to see others have some of my days

[@Sebastopolmark]

GREAT project Drew. I especially like the fact that it is so small and out of the way but VERY EFFECTIVE! !! !!!

[@paisaconstructiondavid1964]

Okay, I am impressed. I have the same saw and I have tried several different ideas and tried several of my own and I will have to tell you, that you have done it. Great job thanks.

[@johnfrazier9327]

OMG thanks for bloopers. As soon as I saw "glued it to the saw" I LOL pretty hard. Thanks for sharing your pain. As somebody who had been testing a lot of solutions, I'd love to see your take on bandsaw dust collection. They may be more unruly than miters.

[@wm005]

Great work, smart thinking. Best idea I've seen space wise, I like it forsure...

[@andrewFull]

OMG thank you for the out-takes at the end of the video. Gluing the attachment to your miter saw made my day. Its good to know that I am not the only one whose projects don't always go smoothly. Cheers ! :)

[@ReViveIndustries]

Great idea and I love your "over-thinking" every detail. The honesty of the outtakes is probably my favorite part as they reflect the everyday realities of life in the shop!

[@megano.1169]

Oh man, glad I'm not alone!😧 No joke. I've literally gotten an hour & a half into a project. Only to realize...I've just spent ALL that time making: the stand, the jig, or the made-up contraption (of which was only supposed to take 10 mins. to build)... But was ONLY intended to make the ORIGINAL job easier!! 😧 Seriously tho... I've got issues.🙄 Lmao

[@rubenrivas6796]

Love the outtakes. It’s like you’re channeling me.

[@flyingnachos77]

Nice job! Loved the bloopers - I totally would have glued it to my saw too!!

[@walterplaessmann5865]

Just came across this video, great solution without over-engineering the whole thing. Really enjoyed using compressed air to blow dust all over the shop to get ready for testing dust collection ideas. Whoever said irony was dead?!

[@FishersShop]

Yeah, haha

[@vegandew]

Never heard or seen your Channel before, but after watching just 1 video on your methodology for how to improve dust collection, I was hooked. You got yourself a new subscriber. Bravo!

[@kevinbowker2385]

LOL! "Instantly male all my mistakespermanent"!!! I enjoy your projects and your dry sense of humor.

[@FishersShop]

Hehe, thanks Kevin

[@braydenbabinec8250]

I like his "borrowed the neighbors scale from their meth lab" bit

[@ohjoannabanana]

I came here for the woodworking, and I am staying for the jokes. Love your sense of humor. 👍😜

[@tonybeach3520]

I appreciate your outtakes following the videos. It relieves the pressure on myself to be perfect, knowing the master makes occasional errors as well. You do great work! Take care.

[@FishersShop]

Thanks a bunch!

[@freemanwoodworking1622]

Great video. Love the humor and just exactly what we are all thinking in the shop at all times

[@paulsanders4929]

I love your videos, you are naturally funny but approach things in a sensible way, the actual objective method used is really good especially as you finish with a percentage value of the actual timber removed by the cut. The out takes are brilliant and we will all recognise ourselves in them!

[@FishersShop]

Thanks, Paul! Glad you liked it!

[@deliaguzman1138]

This is the best video about dust collection ever!

[@Huey52123]

Nice to see a mitersaw dust collection scheme that actually works well. Always enjoyable banter too. Thanks!!

[@coreygrua3271]

What fun! In addition to being funny, this video has the potential of saving a lot of clean-up time around my mitre saw. Many thanks Mr. Fisher. You’re good.

[@billclancy4913]

I really enjoy the bloopers...we all make them, and they all sound the same! :)

[@Ucisneros]

Woodworking, science, math, and humor!?! Great video, keep it up.

[@MrGranite3367]

Fantastic idea that works brilliantly !!! Thanks for taking the time to design this. I have been looking for a way of controlling the dust extraction from my Revolution rage-s 255 mitre saw and with your idea i tweaked it to fit and the results are brilliant. Thank you

[@FishersShop]

Glad I could help!

[@georgeferrell7737]

BEST woodworking video I have ever seen! The humor and outtakes are priceless!

[@MrCFB80]

This guys commentary is hilarious! I have this saw I think I will make one of these too 😀

[@leonardllp7433]

I can't do the stuff that you do but it is always interesting and cool to watch!

[@danielrisberg2112]

I simply love your videos together with your funny remarks! I watch the videos even if it might not always be a project that I'm intersted in. Keep up the good work!

[@WeGoWalk]

Drew is the best at humor AND good advice. Other channels you only get one or the other, never both.

[@CraigHollabaugh]

Thanks for the excellent explanation and the outtakes! They show you make the same dumb mistakes as the rest of us.

[@mcorrade]

thank you for this. Mine has to be the dustiest tool in my garage

[@hackercat13]

Thanks for including the outtakes! Makes me feel far less silly for all the gaffs I make during any build or project.

[@TheBozz2005]

making me lmao like a baby after 76 years makes my woodworking go much much smoother, thanks for sharing

[@hannatree478]

I love my bag. It lets me have the other 33% to stand on comfortably all day and as an atmospheric woodshop vignette it hides a lot more than my mistakes.

[@WeGoWalk]

“I quickly hit it with some CA activator to instantly make my mistakes permanent.” LOL. Hilarious! Love it!

[@w.s.2394]

While I'm sure I'll never get around to actually building one of these ingenious gadgets for myself, I've re-watched the video at least a dozen times just for the laughs! Love your sense of humor!!!

[@bazzatron9482]

Man, what a great video. Thanks for the outtakes. It's seldom that we get to see that side of making, so it can be frustrating when you're just starting out on your journey that you can't replicate the flawlessness of a video.

[@YDENbluffynation]

I should've watch this just a bit earlier, cuz I sent my entire day making my stupid version of dust collect box which seems to not working at all. And I have to say that the mathmatical approach that you have done is by far the most impressive(persuasive) on woodworking video. Amazing job man.

[@FishersShop]

Thanks a bunch! Glad you liked it

[@rogerpemberton79]

The outtakes are priceless. They sound like me when I don't pay attention. 😂

[@jal7306]

Slick man!! Beats the hell out of all of those massive shrouds that I see being constructed for this purpose. Straight forward and simple for a beginner sawdust maker like myself. Thanks.

[@EllisDesignandTradeCo]

I have the exact same saw and this collection issue has been driving me insane for years. I now have a solution! Thank you so much for allowing us to pick your brain, subbed for more videos about your neighbors meth lab!

[@LykMike]

Almost spit my drink everywhere when he said "borrowed it from my neighbor's Meth lab" lol!

[@thinusenslin]

After your video I had the inspiration to build my own. I designed it round so that you can cut at different angles. Works like a bomb 👍🏻

[@danrokke6852]

Great video. I really enjoyed the science behind it all while keeping the tone light and fun. Thanks for the idea!

[@AdamKirbyMusic]

I finally made this! I didn't go any tests beforehand but I don't think my default dust bag is anywhere close to 77% efficiency. It's really awful. The shroud seems to control at least 80%, and there are some small gaps I need to fill that I'm sure will make it even better. Overall EXTREMELY happy how this has turned out.

[@FishersShop]

Glad it worked out for ya, Adam!

[@Smex9680]

Your funny, think I will try that with my saw since I have the same one. Keep up the funny informative videos. Thanks.

[@karenrobb9612]

What a great idea! I have that exact same miter saw and built a shroud around it with downdraft dust collection at the rear, but even with that and the stock dust boot, I still get dust everywhere. Like you, most of my cuts are 90 degrees, so this concept is definitely something I'm going to try this winter. Great video, and great sense of humor!

[@seanadams1635]

love the fact that your out takes was literally a video of mistakes ive made. Thanks for sharing!

[@grahamefreestone5309]

I don't have a mitre saw, but I stayed for the outtakes... ;-) 🇬🇧

[@danfuller2713]

Your outtakes sound like they were recorded in my shop!

[@ericmiller3284]

Yes well done, great quality of video and excellent idea. Thanks so much for sharing all your work and time spent putting this together for the rest of us.

[@Cochran05]

I appreciate the analysis and the humor. Thanks!

[@MattEstlea]

Amazing idea!

[@jjohnston94]

This looks great (and saved to my "shop" playlist), but there's one solution you didn't test, and that is the "little bandshell" completely surrounding the saw. Those might work better with a large volume dust collector, so maybe the ultimate solution is to have both (considering diminishing returns, etc., etc., etc.)

[@TomRubicon5949]

Perfect mix of solid research, great low-key sense of humor, and thorough expertise. I didn't use a shop vac with my mitre saw when I used in my living room. You will understand I spent several hours more cleaning than doing the actual cuts haha

[@FishersShop]

Hah, I'd imagine so!

[@vikingslayer34]

9:14 Not only did you vastly improve the efficiency of the dust collection, you managed to transform the saw into a left AND right handed machine. Bravo Drew!

[@aderftard]

Honestly, I wasn't particularly excited about the topic, but your interesting and entertaining approach kept me watching to the very end. Great job - thanks for taking the time to make quality content.

[@therealmaltesefalcon]

Dude. Funny! And instructive. I think you just Vandaled Mathias.

[@buckeyeboi2010]

Love your commentary and you are quite the creative mind. Look forward to more videos!

[@joeatkins4470]

has to be one of the most entertaining wood channels on YT. Giving Shaun Boyd a run for his money - bravo!

[@colez4651]

“I borrowed the scale from my neighbors meth lab”. I subbed 😂

[@CrzBoarder]

Gold!

[@ReggieWarner]

Wish he would bring it back now, got some "customers" waiting..... :)

[@colez4651]

Reggie Warner 😂😂

[@chrisusher1356]

Same...

[@ThirdCoastCraftsman]

you didnt happen to make an extra one did you? awesome video drew!

[@FishersShop]

Thanks Chris. Yeah actually I did haha. You want one?

[@thomasbrown938]

@@FishersShop .....i.....i want one!

[@justgonnastay]

I have saw envy! That Bosch is a beautiful machine. I've only ever fiddled with it in the store, but it's amazing how smoothly it "slides."

[@markm2302]

I love your sense of humor! Thanks for leaving in the bloopers too. Two thumbs up!

[@bansheeindahouz7594]

"I instantly make all my mistakes permanent." I could not stop laughing 🤣😂

[@ChaseGatyas]

I was cracking up at that too.

[@basacis]

I was surprised that the standard bag everyone throws out is actually 77% effective to begin with.

[@eyefixityouification]

Trust me it's only that effective when it's empty, as it fills the percentages go way down but you're right "how do they get the caramel in the chocolate bar?"🤔

[@daryld8901]

Yes it does but it also then takes up more real estate on the bench it is mounted to. When I built my cut bench for the slider, vacum sucks from the bottom and I made it 12ft to the left of the blade and 4 ft to the right and tall enough to roll my workbench/assembly table underneath out of the way when I need room for finishing. The space between the wall and the mitersaw fence is perfect for 12x18 storage boxes for screws and hardware items and I added 2 4ft x 9" lids with piano hinges for a 4.5 inch tall x 20 inch deep storage area under the trays. By setting it up this way I gained alot of storage in the 4 drawers I have under my portable workbench.

[@InstinctBassin]

On the Ryobi 12" sliding mitre saw, it's about -20% effective.

[@bassrun101]

@@InstinctBassin Garry not Linda. Any piece of Ryobi stuff is only 20% effective! I bought one and after 2 days of trying to get it to cut the last 1/4" of a board without actually filing off the stop or drilling new mounting holes for the fence and get some kind of efficiency out of the chip collection chute I took it back. Not my first piece of poorly made Ryobi equipment but definitely my last.

[@closequarters4575]

@@InstinctBassin -20% lol

[@btrswt35]

I use my table saw as a work station all the time. I know some people use newspaper or craft paper to help protect it from glue and such but I use a large piece of heavy vinyl I got at the fabric department in Walmart. For what it is, I don't think it can be beat. It's water proof and resistant to most finishes and solvents I use. Wood glue doesn't even stick to it all that well so it can be peeled off after it dries. I've had it for more than ten years and it was worth every penny.

[@FishersShop]

Nice tip

[@twopoolpeople]

Great video from beginning to end! I have my miter saw (should be called Dust Saws) mounted on a large rolling cabinet. First I used the bag. Then tried a small shroud around the back with a vac attachment. Then tried a very large shroud with a curved back built like a shadowbox. THEN, I made a large dust scoop, cutting a 4" gutter elbow and attaching it to the saw around the built in scoop. That works the best. When possible, I open the garage door and have a fan behind me in the back of the garage blowing out. But I HAVE to try and make one like you did. Thanks again!

[@garyhoward8321]

The narration of you videos are just as enjoyable as the video itself, they have a Winnie the Pooh feel to them. Haha. Keep up the great work!!

[@FishersShop]

That's Winnie the Drew to you!

[@BruceAUlrich]

They do! Never thought about that. "Oh bother!" ha ha