Shop Work: Improving Dust Collection

[@skippylippy547]

A refreshingly nice video with humor and excellent videography! Thank you. :)

[@donaldfbaer5196]

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[@donaldfbaer5196]

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[@tianwang1630]

Exactly, just discovered thus channel today, quite humorous yet tons of really good stuff

[@psedach]

Loved it - "instantly make my mistakes permanent" great 🤣🤣🤣

[@willyzook]

Yes!! lol

[@joedance14]

Recently had a thought - I know, that’s a surprise! I was thinking about your solution to miter saw dust collection, and how it is limited to 90 degrees. What if the sides (behind the fence) angled back, and the whole assembly was attached to the cutting head. In theory, it could rotate with the cutting head and blade, collecting dust at different angles. A few factors that could be issues: how to attach the assembly (I think of it as a ‘backstop’ dust port) to the cutting head; the sides would probably need to be pretty thin; where to attach the hose; that low semicircular metal component behind the fence would likely be in the way. I’ve been busy with other things, but thought I’d pass the idea along before I forget what it was. And you’re much better at prototyping such things. Best wishes and stay safe!

[@aarondcmedia9585]

Gluing it to the saw was inspired. Thanks for the outtakes and the embedded humour and the final result. Great stuff.

[@jasonsilva4219]

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[@joedance14]

Just watched this video again. I have to say, my wife and I both really enjoy your sense of humor! It’s good to get reminded every so often that we need to keep things in perspective. For my part, I’m still trying to get organized, the workshop was too small, moved into the garage and it is currently overflowing with too much “stuff”, tools, stands, cabinets, benches, tables, etc. And of course, trying to get better dust collection, more wood storage, properly aligned tools that will cut square, or straight. I know, don’t blame the tool. But seriously, some tools are ridiculously difficult to align. And they refuse to stay aligned. Ah well, as the saying goes, it keeps me off the street corner. Perspective! We have to be able to laugh at ourselves. When we lose that, we’re in serious trouble. God bless, take of yourselves, stay safe!

[@FishersShop]

Thanks, Joe! Glad you're liking the vids

[@Conservator.]

3:50 “Using a square I can hold things at 90° and then I hit it with some activator to instantly make all my mistakes permanent” 5:30 “. . . and then proceeded to get glue all over my table saw” 6:18 “ . . . and then after several years of filing I was able to turn that circle into an oval“ Lol 😂

[@johnyearsley7970]

I love the way you show the mishaps at the end. This proves you are brave and human . Thank you from John.

[@FishersShop]

Thanks for watching!

[@stephanstephan6185]

Man I've seen some huge dust collection cabinets that almost fully enclose the back half of the saw. Really only good for a permanent mount and a non portable saw. In any case, the difference in massive amounts of material and time would only serve to close that 4% gap in collection. Your little doodad takes the cake. Simple, cheap, removable, and it allows the saw to remain portable. Nicely finnessed solution buddy. Good on Ya!

[@FishersShop]

You got it exactly Stephan! Thanks!

[@tex6285]

The out takes were the best. Just proves you're a good person able to laugh at yourself. That's real world . Good job on the dust collector.

[@FishersShop]

Thanks, Tex

[@richardmorano9976]

As a retired mechanical tech, I love the weighing test. Best way to evaluate your different configurations.

[@paulcooper9187]

Hi, I followed this idea with some changes for my particular mitre saw ( Evolution, UK ) and I was pleasantly surprised just how effective it was. You still get some of the spread of cuttings, but nothing like it was. You don't see too much with the shop vac plugged in, it sort of goes away, but you are aware of less dust.. Ran last week, with the vac off, and suddenly realized how much sawdust it was collecting. It was totally packed full when I went to it. Its stopping a huge amount, not all, but very impressive what is going in there. The only challenge is that I had already build a big hood , but with this around you do wonder. Thank you brilliant idea, and so simple to do.

[@FishersShop]

Awesome, glad it helped!

[@TomRubicon5949]

Perfect mix of solid research, great low-key sense of humor, and thorough expertise. I didn't use a shop vac with my mitre saw when I used in my living room. You will understand I spent several hours more cleaning than doing the actual cuts haha

[@FishersShop]

Hah, I'd imagine so!

[@Fixthisbuildthat]

Dude, this is a great solution for 90 degrees! Well done!

[@FishersShop]

Thanks Brad! 😀

[@gurshaanbasra3639]

@@FishersShop what about angles?

[@christianscustoms6429]

@@gurshaanbasra3639 watch the video

[@gurshaanbasra3639]

@@christianscustoms6429 sorry I don't know why I ever wrote the comment

[@smitho1108]

LOVE your straight faced humor and how you emphasize your mistakes! Reminds us all that we're not the only ones who have an oops moment...... Oh yea, lotta good info too, thanks!

[@frankjenkins2668]

Your videos are always educational, enjoyable and entertaining. I can see myself in all of your "out takes!" Thanks for all you do for all of us!

[@FishersShop]

Thanks, Frank!

[@philmeanor2638]

Cool project. I was having trouble concentrating because I was laughing so much at your jokes. Keep up the good work

[@FishersShop]

Glad to hear it!

[@ThatGeekyMaker]

Your videos, your craftsmanship, and your sense of humor are terrific!

[@FishersShop]

Thanks so much. :)

[@hackercat13]

Thanks for including the outtakes! Makes me feel far less silly for all the gaffs I make during any build or project.

[@ArmyVet76]

I just upgraded to the same model Bosch a few months ago. Love it and I might try your dust boot to see if I can screw it up more than I have with my failed attempts at different ones.👍🏼

[@walterplaessmann5865]

Just came across this video, great solution without over-engineering the whole thing. Really enjoyed using compressed air to blow dust all over the shop to get ready for testing dust collection ideas. Whoever said irony was dead?!

[@FishersShop]

Yeah, haha

[@johnwurst6691]

A woodworker with a sense of humour doing a scientific project. Well done mate. Now I know I'm not alone....

[@paulsanders4929]

My thoughts too John, there are some more woodwork and tool nerds!

[@ReViveIndustries]

Great idea and I love your "over-thinking" every detail. The honesty of the outtakes is probably my favorite part as they reflect the everyday realities of life in the shop!

[@megano.1169]

Oh man, glad I'm not alone!😧 No joke. I've literally gotten an hour & a half into a project. Only to realize...I've just spent ALL that time making: the stand, the jig, or the made-up contraption (of which was only supposed to take 10 mins. to build)... But was ONLY intended to make the ORIGINAL job easier!! 😧 Seriously tho... I've got issues.🙄 Lmao

[@PaulSmith-oy8xp]

Absolutely - perfect combination of information and (really clever) entertaining dialog. Well done!

[@777kenco]

Hey Drew, thank you for sharing your projects through video. I am in the process of re-watching them again. You and others have Inspired me to build a woodworking shop. I’ve been in construction 45 years , The long hours, heavy lifting and cold winters have exacted their pound of flesh. Some of my new home projects have taken me over a year to complete. So if I can replicate your cutting board weave in six months I will have done well. By Gods grace I have never been seriously hurt, only my pride. Many times I have availed myself of idiot, moron, stupido, etc. I will typically blame the guy who did not show up for work that day but I don’t think anyone is buying it. They know me too well by now. I truly appreciate your exhibiting your failures and foibles for all to see. It keeps us humble I suppose. I plan to have my shop done next year and look forward to purchasing plans and shopping your Amazon page. Thanks , Ken. BTW, the 296 dislikes I’m sure were the dust bag salesmen. As Yoda would say “stepping on toes you are” I look forward to your future projects. Psalm 90:17.

[@FishersShop]

Thanks so much Ken! You're going to have so much fun outfitting your shop!

[@jshobe4114]

Loved the last outtake. Watching you using the CA glue throughout this video I kept thinking "What skill this man has because I would have surely glued pieces to my saw doing it that way". Haha, I was right!!!!

[@servant74]

I love hearing myself talking to myself in your video's! ... Thanks, I really do enjoy your videos.

[@johnfrazier9327]

OMG thanks for bloopers. As soon as I saw "glued it to the saw" I LOL pretty hard. Thanks for sharing your pain. As somebody who had been testing a lot of solutions, I'd love to see your take on bandsaw dust collection. They may be more unruly than miters.

[@thomask4836]

I love watching your videos. I am almost finished with my shop which took 4 years just to mod my tool stations. I have a similar saw mounted on a cart that I built. I think of it more as a sawdust spray unit than a miter saw. I pick which area of my shop that I want covered with sawdust, and just move the cart to that spot. I can cover anything! Thanks for sharing a good solution!

[@thinusenslin]

Exactly my problem. Same saw, sam dust problem. Thx for the idea 👍🏻

[@JC_livestream]

Your comments are awesome -- the outtakes are even better. Thank you for including those!

[@Bjornarp]

"i borrowed a scale from my neighbours meth lab" literally dying! i breathed in a mouthfull of pepsi xD

[@PorqueNoLosDos]

...I spewed my Coors light across the table.

[@BradCozine]

At least you only " breathed in your Pepsi", instead of having "snorted your Coke".

[@Jevandtieriel]

love it!

[@deanaoxo]

he clearly didn't teach you about grams. . . js and for me, it was the end of my coffee, stuff is difficult to get off the keyboard. . .

[@huntermark1160]

I spewed coffee on my computer screen and the glasses I was wearing!

[@tonybeach3520]

I appreciate your outtakes following the videos. It relieves the pressure on myself to be perfect, knowing the master makes occasional errors as well. You do great work! Take care.

[@FishersShop]

Thanks a bunch!

[@kevinbowker2385]

LOL! "Instantly male all my mistakespermanent"!!! I enjoy your projects and your dry sense of humor.

[@FishersShop]

Hehe, thanks Kevin

[@braydenbabinec8250]

I like his "borrowed the neighbors scale from their meth lab" bit

[@georgeferrell7737]

BEST woodworking video I have ever seen! The humor and outtakes are priceless!

[@paulsanders4929]

I love your videos, you are naturally funny but approach things in a sensible way, the actual objective method used is really good especially as you finish with a percentage value of the actual timber removed by the cut. The out takes are brilliant and we will all recognise ourselves in them!

[@FishersShop]

Thanks, Paul! Glad you liked it!

[@andrewFull]

OMG thank you for the out-takes at the end of the video. Gluing the attachment to your miter saw made my day. Its good to know that I am not the only one whose projects don't always go smoothly. Cheers ! :)

[@galamonkey]

It’s 9:40pm on Saturday night. I’m watching a guy weigh sawdust on KZbin.

[@OlleErikssonL]

The realization just hit me! ;)

[@impactajuvenile]

Are you his neighbor? Did he bring back your scale?

[@megano.1169]

@@impactajuvenile 🤣🤣🤣

[@benpedersen360]

Dude! Me too!

[@TheJcdm327]

What else can you do during quarantine? I've watched the entire Big Bang Theory series 10 times.

[@oldwobble916]

Very scientific approach to a common problem. You started with a reasonably good collection of dust with the standard setup. My Metabo 254 didn't collect anything in the supplied dustbag. I didn't want to limit the miter saw angles, so I ended up with a box over the complete saw with cut-outs to ensure the angle movements.

[@billclancy4913]

I really enjoy the bloopers...we all make them, and they all sound the same! :)

[@TheJcdm327]

Your out takes increased my self-esteem 100%. Thanks for being human. Good job.

[@BarkingIron]

Great idea and solid outcome. Thank You for the videos and your commentary is awesome.

[@CogentConsult]

Drew is the best at humor AND good advice. Other channels you only get one or the other, never both.

[@JustJimWillDo]

While watching, I was like, "He's lucky he isn't gluing that box to the table of the mitre saw." And then came the out-takes! 😂

[@MarkTurnbull]

I thought, "I'd have glued it to the saw if I tried that." Glad I'm not alone

[@joeatkins4470]

has to be one of the most entertaining wood channels on YT. Giving Shaun Boyd a run for his money - bravo!

[@AdamKirbyMusic]

I finally made this! I didn't go any tests beforehand but I don't think my default dust bag is anywhere close to 77% efficiency. It's really awful. The shroud seems to control at least 80%, and there are some small gaps I need to fill that I'm sure will make it even better. Overall EXTREMELY happy how this has turned out.

[@FishersShop]

Glad it worked out for ya, Adam!

[@ryanmcnair3451]

Thanks for the excellent video. I particularly like you included some outtakes at the end showing you're only human. Glad I'm not the only one making amatuer mistakes with some of. My projects and that you have the honesty, humility, and humour to share few of yours. Kudos! 😃

[@FishersShop]

Glad you liked it, Ryan

[@OldePhart]

"instantly make all my mistakes permanent"... that and the Turretts episode at the end reveals a kindred spirit. New Sub!

[@VincenzOmaha]

I like your videos a lot. I know this is an old one. I almost gave up on your experiment until the very end when you found the ratio between the dust and whole wood segment. Science!

[@rauldemoura2417]

I love the out takes. It’s so “true to life!”

[@rashidtayidi8370]

Your outtakes are the best part, humanizing woodworking frustrations😆. I have also been frustrated by miter saw dust and will try your build, and also incorporate some of the approaches of Denis from Hooked on Wood. Thanks for sharing your innovation to solving this problem.

[@FishersShop]

Glad to help

[@hannatree478]

I love my bag. It lets me have the other 33% to stand on comfortably all day and as an atmospheric woodshop vignette it hides a lot more than my mistakes.

[@btrswt35]

I use my table saw as a work station all the time. I know some people use newspaper or craft paper to help protect it from glue and such but I use a large piece of heavy vinyl I got at the fabric department in Walmart. For what it is, I don't think it can be beat. It's water proof and resistant to most finishes and solvents I use. Wood glue doesn't even stick to it all that well so it can be peeled off after it dries. I've had it for more than ten years and it was worth every penny.

[@FishersShop]

Nice tip

[@YDENbluffynation]

I should've watch this just a bit earlier, cuz I sent my entire day making my stupid version of dust collect box which seems to not working at all. And I have to say that the mathmatical approach that you have done is by far the most impressive(persuasive) on woodworking video. Amazing job man.

[@FishersShop]

Thanks a bunch! Glad you liked it

[@robertbirch2186]

Love the out takes at the end, thought I was looking in a mirror!

[@CraigHollabaugh]

Thanks for the excellent explanation and the outtakes! They show you make the same dumb mistakes as the rest of us.

[@larsrosenquist8277]

A very good solution. I have been working with dust exstraction proffesionally, and I guest that the increase is mainly fine dust. The dust that is irritating and very dangerous. Well done and thank you for sharing. Lars Rosenquist, Sweden

[@deliaguzman1138]

This is the best video about dust collection ever!

[@TheBozz2005]

making me lmao like a baby after 76 years makes my woodworking go much much smoother, thanks for sharing

[@Ucisneros]

Woodworking, science, math, and humor!?! Great video, keep it up.

[@bazzatron9482]

Man, what a great video. Thanks for the outtakes. It's seldom that we get to see that side of making, so it can be frustrating when you're just starting out on your journey that you can't replicate the flawlessness of a video.

[@markgreatrix5511]

Love the build, love the humor, love the outtakes. Perfect :)

[@farshadbagheri]

Great solution. The only thing better than the solution you came up with is your sense of humor. Thanks for the education and the laughs.

[@FishersShop]

You bet

[@jjohnston94]

This looks great (and saved to my "shop" playlist), but there's one solution you didn't test, and that is the "little bandshell" completely surrounding the saw. Those might work better with a large volume dust collector, so maybe the ultimate solution is to have both (considering diminishing returns, etc., etc., etc.)

[@MrGranite3367]

Fantastic idea that works brilliantly !!! Thanks for taking the time to design this. I have been looking for a way of controlling the dust extraction from my Revolution rage-s 255 mitre saw and with your idea i tweaked it to fit and the results are brilliant. Thank you

[@FishersShop]

Glad I could help!

[@ohjoannabanana]

I came here for the woodworking, and I am staying for the jokes. Love your sense of humor. 👍😜

[@MikeSmith-ug6bf]

Dude the dry humor, shots at the neighbor and out takes are so good! I’m totally making this!!

[@FishersShop]

Thanks Mike

[@Huey52123]

Nice to see a mitersaw dust collection scheme that actually works well. Always enjoyable banter too. Thanks!!

[@EllisDesignandTradeCo]

I have the exact same saw and this collection issue has been driving me insane for years. I now have a solution! Thank you so much for allowing us to pick your brain, subbed for more videos about your neighbors meth lab!

[@markm2302]

I love your sense of humor! Thanks for leaving in the bloopers too. Two thumbs up!

[@mcorrade]

thank you for this. Mine has to be the dustiest tool in my garage

[@elginswitzer7228]

this by far the best wood working video I have watched!!! I love the outtakes - where you glue the wooden box to the saw - i have never done that!!! sooooooo funny

[@CogentConsult]

“I quickly hit it with some CA activator to instantly make my mistakes permanent.” LOL. Hilarious! Love it!

[@allanfischer9417]

Thanks for including some of your screwups at the end - I feel slightly less inept as a result!

[@FishersShop]

You’re welcome 😊

[@rogerpemberton79]

The outtakes are priceless. They sound like me when I don't pay attention. 😂

[@BigWingUK]

Really nice - not just the idea but the videography and humorous commentary too!

[@danfuller2713]

Your outtakes sound like they were recorded in my shop!

[@robertcullity1695]

Your outtakes makes me think of that saying, "misery loves company". Using your neighbor and kids as props are priceless. Oh , and I finally got the idea of using a louvered small attic fan to blow the dust outside. My wall backs up to my rear neighbor's over grown forest. Works great. Keep those videos coming!

[@davidanderson1060]

Drew, there was a mistake in your measurement methodology...your dust collection is wayyyy better than you calculated! Assuming you're using 20lb paper, the sheet of paper weighs 0.64oz (20lbs divided by 500 sheets). This means that the mass of the paper is a significant portion of your dust measurement. It needs to be subtracted before finding the percent of dust that you collected. If you subtract the 0.64oz from each measurement then find the percentage, you see that there's a significant difference in the dust collection percentages: 25% for bag, 61% for Vac only, 75% for Duct tape mod, 86% for your solution.

[@koos42]

There is actually a frame where you can see the weight of a piece of the paper that was used, it's .18oz (OMG, what a cheapskate!). I saw that I've commented the nearly the same thing, I got measurements of 71%, 85%, 91%, 95%; respective to the order presented in the video.

[@joes6088]

He put the half inch block on a sheet of paper on the scales so the weights are all relative.

[@watchme4514]

Joe S but with 5 cuts he would need 5 sheets of paper for it to truly be equal.

[@gussfoundry7600]

Sadly refreshing that other people are guilty of serious self ridicule when they make mistakes. Very good vid!

[@basacis]

I was surprised that the standard bag everyone throws out is actually 77% effective to begin with.

[@eyefixityouification]

Trust me it's only that effective when it's empty, as it fills the percentages go way down but you're right "how do they get the caramel in the chocolate bar?"🤔

[@daryld8901]

Yes it does but it also then takes up more real estate on the bench it is mounted to. When I built my cut bench for the slider, vacum sucks from the bottom and I made it 12ft to the left of the blade and 4 ft to the right and tall enough to roll my workbench/assembly table underneath out of the way when I need room for finishing. The space between the wall and the mitersaw fence is perfect for 12x18 storage boxes for screws and hardware items and I added 2 4ft x 9" lids with piano hinges for a 4.5 inch tall x 20 inch deep storage area under the trays. By setting it up this way I gained alot of storage in the 4 drawers I have under my portable workbench.

[@InstinctBassin]

On the Ryobi 12" sliding mitre saw, it's about -20% effective.

[@bassrun101]

@@InstinctBassin Garry not Linda. Any piece of Ryobi stuff is only 20% effective! I bought one and after 2 days of trying to get it to cut the last 1/4" of a board without actually filing off the stop or drilling new mounting holes for the fence and get some kind of efficiency out of the chip collection chute I took it back. Not my first piece of poorly made Ryobi equipment but definitely my last.

[@closequarters4575]

@@InstinctBassin -20% lol

[@timothybronk4082]

Science! I love how you weighed the sawdust, then calculated/weighed the equivalent wood to determine efficiency. And I enjoyed your humor, too. Thanks!

[@FishersShop]

Glad you liked it!

[@garygilbert1440]

Great video and well done. Wish more people put in the outtakes...make it more realistic.

[@johnmckell4362]

You are not only very talented but funny too...You made this video more watchable than most...

[@ThirdCoastCraftsman]

you didnt happen to make an extra one did you? awesome video drew!

[@FishersShop]

Thanks Chris. Yeah actually I did haha. You want one?

[@thomasbrown938]

@@FishersShop .....i.....i want one!

[@tin1551]

You have one of the most relaxing voices on KZbin. Love your videos! Keep up the good work

[@FishersShop]

Thanks!

[@Patriot4TheTree]

You nerded out on this video. I watched the whole thing.

[@w.s.2394]

While I'm sure I'll never get around to actually building one of these ingenious gadgets for myself, I've re-watched the video at least a dozen times just for the laughs! Love your sense of humor!!!

[@Smex9680]

Your funny, think I will try that with my saw since I have the same one. Keep up the funny informative videos. Thanks.

[@vegandew]

Never heard or seen your Channel before, but after watching just 1 video on your methodology for how to improve dust collection, I was hooked. You got yourself a new subscriber. Bravo!

[@LykMike]

Almost spit my drink everywhere when he said "borrowed it from my neighbor's Meth lab" lol!

[@millerasm]

This is how instructional videos should be done. Humor, knowledge, and the results of what your trying to accomplish.. great job and I'll be using your idea for dust collection.

[@stephendeese97]

GREAT video! I love the scientific approach! Also.. very funny: 03:54 "Then I hit with activator to instantly make all my mistakes permanent..." 07:34 " I borrowed the scale from my neighbors meth lab..."

[@markpierce823]

I like the science side of this and the outtakes make me realize I’m not the only one. Thanks so much, very helpful!

[@colez4651]

“I borrowed the scale from my neighbors meth lab”. I subbed 😂

[@CrzBoarder]

Gold!

[@ReggieWarner]

Wish he would bring it back now, got some "customers" waiting..... :)

[@colez4651]

Reggie Warner 😂😂

[@chrisusher1356]

Same...

[@johnmiller457]

I really enjoyed the outtakes at the end. I’m glad to know I’m not the only one who makes silly mistakes! Great video and dust collector. Thanks.

[@FishersShop]

Thanks for watching

[@bansheeindahouz7594]

"I instantly make all my mistakes permanent." I could not stop laughing 🤣😂

[@ChaseGatyas]

I was cracking up at that too.

[@vikingslayer34]

9:14 Not only did you vastly improve the efficiency of the dust collection, you managed to transform the saw into a left AND right handed machine. Bravo Drew!

[@2shoestoo]

Holy contraption great job👍🏻 meth lab scale ha!

[@U2ube9001]

Love the outtakes. "I think I just glued it to the saw..." priceless.

[@MattEstlea]

Amazing idea!