Hawaiian Air Flight 47 -Smoke in the Cabin

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@idpromnut
@idpromnut 5 жыл бұрын
Juan, I think you answered why a plane that is at the "halfway" point might have to carry more fuel to drop to a lower altitude and continue on, but I don't think you specifically answered why that would make an impact; does the crew have the ability to exchange the air in the cabin via another system than the compressed air inputs from the engines?
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Good point! - At 10,000' you can completely depressurize the aircraft, turn off the Pacs, and ventilate the cabin with fresh 'ram' air.
@idpromnut
@idpromnut 5 жыл бұрын
@@blancolirio Thank you for clarifying that! I suspected as much, but I didn't want to assume.
@kenbrown438
@kenbrown438 5 жыл бұрын
idpromnut : That was a great question !!!!
@desertdenizen6428
@desertdenizen6428 5 жыл бұрын
Why don't they just open the windows? 🤔
@terryboyer1342
@terryboyer1342 5 жыл бұрын
@@desertdenizen6428 It would mess up older womens hair dos.
@AaronBarthol
@AaronBarthol 5 жыл бұрын
I really like these little emergency event debriefings/case studies. As an airline pilot, it freshens my education on the situation being discussed and better prepares me in the event that I ever have to deal with something like this as a crew member up front. These are kind of like CBTs except they are much more entertaining and don't put me to sleep.
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Aaron!! This definitely is helping me to 'keep in the books' while I'm away from the line.
@cristobalcardona5592
@cristobalcardona5592 5 жыл бұрын
Juan should go on to teach the new pilots, after his airline days are over!
@williamdoublelink
@williamdoublelink 5 жыл бұрын
I believe that I only fully comprehend about 60%+ of the technical explanations BUT that does not diminish the great pleasure I get from ‘learning’ and sharing your totally fascinating vlogs; keep up the great work. Thank you! 👍🙏🏼
@KarlHamilton
@KarlHamilton 5 жыл бұрын
There's only Juan person I get my aviation news from.
@shhmule
@shhmule 5 жыл бұрын
@ATCkeepsUsafe Who are you referring to?
@ah244895
@ah244895 5 жыл бұрын
That comment makes no sense. Sounds like an unhappy troll.
@Parker53151
@Parker53151 5 жыл бұрын
Juan and only.
@eaboatnuts76
@eaboatnuts76 5 жыл бұрын
Great comment. Juan is the Juan
@davidhecksel1747
@davidhecksel1747 5 жыл бұрын
You are now cleared to land on runway Juan Niner
@gt40driver1
@gt40driver1 5 жыл бұрын
Exposure to contaminated air wrecked my nervous system and finished my aviation career very prematurely. If you look up the effects of burning jet oil it doesn't for make good reading. Thanks Juan for an in-dept report.
@georgefranklin3222
@georgefranklin3222 5 жыл бұрын
I remember the days of airliners having a smoking section. Seems like I'd always be one row removed from this section being a non smoker. Smoke in the cabin never seemed to be an issue in those days. Thank you for another very informative report.
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Kinda looked like these pics!
@Jules-6022
@Jules-6022 5 жыл бұрын
"Rubber jungle" HaHa good one! Great informative report. Always love hearing "Weightless" too. Cheers Juan!
@jodelboy
@jodelboy 5 жыл бұрын
I wish you success in getting your 787 type rating done and flying that supermachine.
@duanelundgren7985
@duanelundgren7985 5 жыл бұрын
Yet another reason I don't need Television,,, All the News that is fit to be News is HERE!!!!! Thanks Juan!
@samueltomlin8418
@samueltomlin8418 5 жыл бұрын
Juan.....you are so GOOD! This from another 40 year pilot!!!
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Samuel!
@paulmetcalfe2467
@paulmetcalfe2467 5 жыл бұрын
Juan, You are one great source of valuable knowledge. Thanks so much for sharing in terms the layperson can understand. We are praying that you get back in the air soon. Passengers could not have a better, more competent pilot.
@Alvan81
@Alvan81 5 жыл бұрын
Thank You for all your excellent content! It takes a smart person to understand such a technical subject; and an even smarter person to explain it in a straightforward fashion...
@MooseTurder
@MooseTurder 5 жыл бұрын
According to Hawaiian Airlines statement on their Facebook, the plane was landed on 4R and an evacuation was carried out in 30 seconds. No one was seen with baggage when exiting the plane. Kudos to the crew and passengers for actually doing what was taught! Just fyi standard commercial landing routes for HNL in the normal trade winds would be to fly south of the island, to the West end of the island and turn back landing on 8L. This flight had an expedited approach and landed on a runway 4R which is normally used for cargo and civil aviation operations. Happened to take my first flight lesson in a Cessna 152 from that runway many many years ago :)
@caygill2
@caygill2 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Juan for your channel, and I hope you get well soon.
@poisonousnut
@poisonousnut 5 жыл бұрын
man am i glad the orrville dam spillway caved in. i’m hooked on this channel now! keep up the great work Mr Browne.
@370Scotty
@370Scotty 5 жыл бұрын
Not glad it happen, but it brought me to Biancolirio!
@MrEbug68
@MrEbug68 5 жыл бұрын
As always a great informative video. I worked in the aviation industry years ago and it’s frustrating to see the inaccuracy of news programming. Even from their experts. Glad you’re on the mend and keep up the good work.
@gunsaway1
@gunsaway1 5 жыл бұрын
787 went back to 1950 technology with turbo compressors and refrigeration units like the DC8 and 707. Tried and true. Even the Dart engines had Roots blowers instead of bleed air. Great reporting.
@ChrisB257
@ChrisB257 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reporting again Juan - busy as heck recently with so many aviation incidents!!
@SteveD328
@SteveD328 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Juan. I 'm a captain on a "super-midsize" corporate jet for one of the major players in the fractional ownership market, and when we go to Hawaii, we always plan 3 ETPs, 1 for engine failure, one for depressurization, and 1 for medical emergency. It's amazing sometimes how close together they can be when plotting them on the chart.
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Great Point(s)...;-) Thanks Steve.
@martharetallick204
@martharetallick204 5 жыл бұрын
Our go-to guy for aviation commentary.
@darkdelta
@darkdelta 5 жыл бұрын
Another home run from Juan! Thanks for the education1
@b1lyb
@b1lyb 5 жыл бұрын
Great job Juan. I just retired off the Airbus 319/20/21 with 11,000 in type. The last 3 years I advocated at the highest levels for a smoke removal memory item that would take as little :30 seconds to complete, depending on the altitude. They were lucky the fumes were not toxic. In 1980 Saudi Air Flight 163 landed with 301 dead in the back due to smoke inhalation. For the Airbus 321 push every button on the overhead ventilation panel and the air conditioning/pressurization panel. How simple is that. Then depending on the severity of the smoke and aircraft altitude the Captain decides when to open the outflow valve. The ram air will not open until there is less than one psi differential. When the ram air opens it opens the outflow valve half way, but you can manually open it all the way anytime when you are prepared to depressurize the plane. Had they had this simple procedure. Descend, depressurize and open the ram air valve by pushing every button on those two panels, the smoke would have been gone and no evacuation necessary. Airbus world wide has a smoke event every week.
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Keep pushing for this. Lots of room to improve procedures here.
@johnpreisler6713
@johnpreisler6713 5 жыл бұрын
Love you, love your show. Heal quickly, heal well. Dirty little secret - I look at google maps a lot at work, and now every time I see a dam, I look for the spillway
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Haa! "The more you know..."
@robertk.5195
@robertk.5195 5 жыл бұрын
Juan, I love your casual but concise way of explaining things. I spent 30 years working on aircraft electrical systems - both in the USAF and on production lines at Lockheed, Hiller, Lear and others. Not that I ever could THINK I know it all, I always learn something from your videos. Thanks for taking the time to do these bits with your insights and expertise. Keep it coming.
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
I'm always researching and learning too! Helps keep my "head in the game".
@johncaywood5888
@johncaywood5888 5 жыл бұрын
When it comes to the average passenger’s knowledge about the mysteries and misconceptions of flying, there is an old saying: More is more. Thanks.
@combatmedic1980
@combatmedic1980 5 жыл бұрын
Juan, That was a VERY enlightening explanation of the many systems we as laymen have no idea of how those systems work, and the extensive training you have to have beyond the silly stuff like just flying a jumbo jet LOL. I having been a combat medic thought I had a lot of training and what I did learn was KEEP your head calm ,clear and work your medical checklist in your head in a stressful situation. My hat goes off to you pilots keeping us a safe as possible when flying !!!!!!!!!
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt! And thanks for your service!
@markbell9742
@markbell9742 5 жыл бұрын
Damn Pilots: "Sodium Chloride and Iron"; *'Sodium Chlorate'* . OK, I confess a chemistry Nerd. Cheers, Mark
@80b
@80b 5 жыл бұрын
My man Juan Brown on top of the news
@Dstew57A
@Dstew57A 5 жыл бұрын
Juan. I swear ...you are the best reporter/ news round. No bull.Just the facts and sometimes well informed opinion. I tell everybody to go watch the blancoliero channel. It’s the best news around. Very refreshing and trustworthy. I know you’ll hit 100 k Plus and way beyond subs soon! Thank you for your great work.
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks D!
@jamesfarnham1976
@jamesfarnham1976 5 жыл бұрын
Great info, I learn so much from you Juan!! Always wondered why you needed to tug on the mask hose to start the oxygen. Good gravy, now I know!!
@chrisv4640
@chrisv4640 5 жыл бұрын
YES! The music is back!! Thanks Juan!!!
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Just for you Chris!
@chrisv4640
@chrisv4640 5 жыл бұрын
@@blancolirio I LOVE YOU MAN!
@karlfair
@karlfair 5 жыл бұрын
Nice report, Juan. You always clear up the smoke in the cabin.
@catherinenelson4162
@catherinenelson4162 5 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@JoeLinux2000
@JoeLinux2000 5 жыл бұрын
I thought regulations prohibit smoking in the cabin.
@johndemerse9172
@johndemerse9172 5 жыл бұрын
It is amazing that one of these ETOPS aircraft flying between Hawaii and the US Mainland has never had to ditch into the Pacific.
@Aeronaut1975
@Aeronaut1975 5 жыл бұрын
Statistically, it's only a matter of time :/
@LasVegasVocalist
@LasVegasVocalist 5 жыл бұрын
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero. - Tyler Durden
@Aeronaut1975
@Aeronaut1975 5 жыл бұрын
@@LasVegasVocalist You're not supposed to talk about that ;D
@LasVegasVocalist
@LasVegasVocalist 5 жыл бұрын
@@Aeronaut1975 Yup I know I violated the first 2 rules.
@michaelpayne5545
@michaelpayne5545 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Juan! Hope you get the opportunity to fly the 787. I was on a 787-10 Dreamliner in March (as a passenger; I’m not a pilot but follow aviation and aviation news stories) and was impressed!
@mattbartley2843
@mattbartley2843 5 жыл бұрын
"I'll miss going to London." My only flight (as a passenger) so far on a 787 was coming back from London Gatwick.
@sandygalbraith49
@sandygalbraith49 5 жыл бұрын
Love your presentations Juan. So good to know what goes on with the plane in these circumstances. Hope I don't have to go through any of them.
@rayg9069
@rayg9069 5 жыл бұрын
We used to use Mobil Jet oil 2 in Allison industrial engines, I can verify that stuff flashes to smoke with a terrible chemical acrid smell, scary enough in an industrial enclosure on the ground, in flight it would be heart stopping. As tough as Jet engines are something as simple as a tiny bit of back pressure on a labyrinth seal drain line can cause massive issues . Juan I learn more from you in 20 minutes then days of watching news services.
@sop2510
@sop2510 5 жыл бұрын
Another worst-case scenario: fire aboard a submerged submarine transiting through the Straits of Gibraltar. It calls for an emergency ascent into an unknown number of surface craft not expecting a submarine to pop up in front of them. Another great report, Ron. Keep 'em coming!
@td1138
@td1138 5 жыл бұрын
A very comprehensive report! Very enlightening. Thanks, Juan.
@mrscotty47
@mrscotty47 5 жыл бұрын
Juan-fantastic explanation once again. Just plain fantastic. I have never heard a more clear and concise explanation ; and it boils down to the fact that you not only know electro-mechanically what makes these "things" fly but what to do when things go wrong. A master mechanic and a master pilot. You do the industry a great service.
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@johnmcnaught7453
@johnmcnaught7453 5 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Never knew about the independent sys in the dreamliner.
@sophieacapella
@sophieacapella 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! Amazing video, so much useful information 👌. Thanks a lot Juan for taking the time to make all these valuable videos. Wishing you complete recovery.
@deanlabbe9952
@deanlabbe9952 5 жыл бұрын
As always a very good lay mans description of the problem. Thank you Juan for educating those of us that know very little about aircraft.
@samuelyankovitch1572
@samuelyankovitch1572 5 жыл бұрын
As a pilot, not only that I am enjoying so much your videos, but also I keep lerning from each and every one of them.
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Samuel!
@dd_ranchtexas4501
@dd_ranchtexas4501 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Juan for great reporting. You are a treasure. Hope your health will soon allow you to be at the controls of that 787!
@stevenhardy1860
@stevenhardy1860 5 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the time, effort and detail that has gone into each and every one of your videos. I am a private pilot and I find your videos super educational. Thank you so much for these educational, informative and interesting videos. Keep up the great work, but please find time to relax and take care too.
@billneely7264
@billneely7264 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. Valujet also taught us some lessons about fire and cargo.
@peterkuykendall3636
@peterkuykendall3636 5 жыл бұрын
Bill Neely and the cargo was oxygen generators! Just thinking about the alligators makes me shudder.
@stevet8121
@stevet8121 5 жыл бұрын
Because of Juan, I have more respect for the airlines and the dedicated pilots who fly them.
@pilotdane1
@pilotdane1 5 жыл бұрын
Juan, I am a pilot - but Dude, your knowledge is amazing. As always, You are so informative - it's ridiculous.... Always watch, and always a "thumbs up"....
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Obi-Wan!
@nosefirst
@nosefirst 5 жыл бұрын
Best video I have watched all day..!
@williammcguire5685
@williammcguire5685 5 жыл бұрын
I hope your on the mend. I enjoy listening to your explanations of whats going on with different scenarios. God Bless!
@JohnSmith-xb7nn
@JohnSmith-xb7nn 5 жыл бұрын
Juan, loving these airplane vids you are doing!!! stay busy and hope you are recovering well
@hvygambler
@hvygambler 5 жыл бұрын
Great info as always, I never had thought that the drop mask were mixed with bleed air, but now understand after the explanation of the chemical mixture, you are a great teacher to us non industry guys who like to learn what makes other machines function and possibly use that info in other trades
@randomsomeone1617
@randomsomeone1617 5 жыл бұрын
Your knowledge and your ability to explain it is extremely impressive. Thank you for your service sir.
@danielbohn7461
@danielbohn7461 5 жыл бұрын
Again a brilliant explanation for us non aviators. You are the best. Thanks Man. I just took my first flight to Spain from Dallas to Madrid last June and watching your channel helped me me feel a lot more comfortable about air travel. Knowing that we have experienced pilots like yourself.
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Glad it helps! Thanks Daniel.
@MrGoldman9
@MrGoldman9 5 жыл бұрын
Captain thank you so much for all this beautiful information even though I’m airline pilot but I am really enjoyable the way I explain the information is to people again wishing you a happy time flying after you’re done your medical and have a safe flight ...... One of your followers find it from overseas
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Goldman!
@RunFast64
@RunFast64 5 жыл бұрын
From my recollection the only bleed air used on the 787 is for engine inlet nacelle heating for anti-ice. Excellent video and information. Also the 787 uses wacky power....no generator constant speed drive. Aircraft electrical systems must deal with variable frequency AC.
@flybyairplane3528
@flybyairplane3528 5 жыл бұрын
SpinFast yes,,and usually 400 HZ, I am not sure if any body , uses compressors anymore!, , Cheers from NJ
@RunFast64
@RunFast64 5 жыл бұрын
@@flybyairplane3528 The 787 generators operate over the range of 360 to 800 hertz AC output. All of the A/C power converters need to operator over this range. Not the fixed 400 hz of legacy A/C systems.
@harrisonmantooth3647
@harrisonmantooth3647 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone else think about that old John Wayne movie, "Point of No Return" while Juan was giving an explanation for this Hawaiian flight. Great information, it answered some of my questions. Thanks for sharing another informative video. Stan
@walt8089
@walt8089 5 жыл бұрын
Great detailed explanation of Bleed Air Systems and Operation. I am a former 23 year C-130E & H Crew Chief and Phase Dock Troop. Flew as a DCC on our Units C-130H's during Desert Shield/Storm. 8 1/2 years prior to that a C-119C, G & L --- FE/FM.
@wdhewson
@wdhewson 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Juan. A fine public service!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@martybunyan12
@martybunyan12 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the aviation updates Juan! Hope you are feeling well!! All the regulars here are always thinking about you and the family. Hope everyone is doing well!
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Feeling better! Thanks Marty.
@cristobalcardona5592
@cristobalcardona5592 5 жыл бұрын
Glad all made it out safely!
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane 5 жыл бұрын
Good chance of delayed long term neurological effects if it was an engine seal leak.
@duanequam7709
@duanequam7709 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks once again for your expertise. Very informative
@raydaley2597
@raydaley2597 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Juan. Always informative and appreciated. Good health my friend. 🙏🏻
@robmorgan1214
@robmorgan1214 5 жыл бұрын
Juan you're a great pilot and engineer! You really help people understand some very challenging topics. Keep it up!
@chuckboyle8456
@chuckboyle8456 5 жыл бұрын
Another outstanding video JB...thanks. This episode was jam-packed with excellent details that you will never read about in the “In Flight” magazines. Your presentation skills are definitely improving with meaningful content for the average viewer to appreciate. Well done!
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chuck!
@renegade44040
@renegade44040 5 жыл бұрын
Once again. A little oil makes a whole lot of smoke when it is placed on something very hot.
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@Andrew-13579
@Andrew-13579 5 жыл бұрын
Can the air be cleared very quickly once down to 14,000 (or was it 10,000)? There's no "open the big vents" is there? Isn't it only a small precentage of "fresh air" that entered the front of each engine that actually comes into the cabin? Most of the cabin air is recirculated, right? Is both cabin air and cargo compartment air intermixed, or are they separate? Does the cabin and the cargo section each have its own outlet or overboard? If you have something smoking in the cargo hold, will that smoke be distributed to the cabin? At cruising altitude, very thin outside air might be -40 to -60 deg C, right? It is compressed by the compressor blades and stators of the engine and squeezed to high pressure and over +100 deg C, right? (Or was it about 100 psi and 400 C?) At that point, (before the fuel, smoke and fire is added) some of that hot, clean, dry air is ported off to the air conditioning system that works some magic in reducing the pressure and getting rid of most of the heat...adding the required pressure and hot or cold needed to keep the cabin comfy. But not good at completely turning over the cabin air volume very quickly, right? The main purpose of the compressor is to feed a high volume of high pressure air (and its large quantity of oxygen) to the combustors to mix with lots of jet fuel and make lots and lots of heat to drive the turbine which in turn drives the compressor and the big fan blades that move most of the air for thrust. The waste heat out of the turbine also produces high speed jet thrust, right? I've noticed on flights when descending, you can begin to smell the air mass over the city you are arriving at. If there is smoke from a brush fire, and your plane flies through it, you will smell a little of that smoke in the cabin. Or a lot of smoke smell if the smoke in the air is thick. Although, I don't think Capt. Juan would fly his plane through a column of smoke. :)
@Cultural_Supremacist
@Cultural_Supremacist 5 жыл бұрын
I'm just an automotive tech, but I can attest to this fact.
@gordonrichardson2972
@gordonrichardson2972 5 жыл бұрын
@@Kreemerz Oil will burn inside the engine, but it requires very high temperatures, beyond those found in the compressor and air conditioning.
@RobertsonDCCD
@RobertsonDCCD 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew 13579 Most airliners (maybe all?) have the ability to bring in “ram air” from inlets in the fuselage as a backup source of ventilation in case the packs become inoperative or to help clear smoke. You need to get down to around 10,000’ to ensure enough oxygen content, and the ram air works best at higher speed. As the aircraft slows for landing, less air enters the ram inlets. To answer your main question, ram air with an open outflow valve can replace the cabin air, and hence clear smoke, fairly rapidly.
@jackoneil3933
@jackoneil3933 5 жыл бұрын
Have you ever experienced something similar to Juan? As a passenger (or Pilot-Passenger) it can be pretty troubling as well which I experienced ago on Christmas Eve I was on a flight from ANC to PDX on a heavily loaded ageing B727 that departed in near white-out conditions, and a couple of mins after Air-Cycle packs started operating large amounts of smoke flooded out the overhead vents, and within a couple of mins the smoke was so thick it was difficult to see from my over-wing seat to the front of the cabin from the thick, acrid 'dirty sock' smelling smoke you described. Even though the pilots quickly shutdown the Cabin air system the thick smoke remained as we did a high-rate turn in IMC and heavy snow, the Captian said to assume 'Brace' positions as we landed with about 30kts of tailwind in near '0/0'conditions over max landing weight, at night and nearly over-ran the runway and had a brief brake fire reported by aircraft at the departure end where we stopped. The engines and all electrical were shut-down as we stopped and were told to remain seated and wait for the fire equipment, but for some reason, the crew did not open any cabin doors (Procedure in case of fire?) as we started suffering the effects of Smoke inhalation. I was sitting next to the Late Senator Ted Stevens who had been a military Pilot and we both demanded they evacuate the aircraft or at least open some doors but the crew refused. Having the Emergency exit Row I advised; "If action was not taken immediately to relieve the smoke situation I am pulling the window and will wait for the rescue on the wing!" Senator Stevens then exclaimed: "We're dying in here! Pull the goddamed window, we'll all join you!" At which point the two forward cabin doors were opened and with the 30kts of wind the cabin air became somewhat tolerable. As soon as the Rescue determined we were good to taxi we returned to a gate and were told to remain on board until the aircraft was repaired. Ted Stevens and me made our way forward to get off as the head F/A told us to return to our seats, Ted said: "Honey this GD Airplane ain't goin' anywhere, not with me on it anyway!" The Capt. hearing the exchange exited the cockpit and said someone left a rag in the cabin air intake and caught fire in one of the A/C packs and as soon as it was cleared out we would be departing. Ted said "You're full of Sh!t and we left the flight that was cancelled a couple of hours later. Ted and me guessed it was an oil seal rather than a rag. And something to think about is how in pressurized aircraft even if the source of the smoke is eliminated smoke can build quickly and not be eliminated before you become incapacitated. I had a minor electrical fire in a P210 Cessna caused by someone having wrapped tinfoil around a Hobbs meter fuse that had a chaffing wire. Turning off the master did not stop the burn because it was connected directly to the battery via a gear-up relay. so as soon as I put the gear up and the wire chaffed and grounded at cruise. as I recall turning the electrical master switch off left the Outflow valve functioning and I had to manually dump cabin pressure to open the little side window to get some fresh air but the smoke increased. As I manually extended the gear to get from altitude to a highway below as fast a possible the act of lowering the gear broke the Hobbs circuit and the smoke stopped and I chose instead to land as an airport a few miles away. Having worked in the Oil an Gas industry I've had some other experiences with smoke in confined areas and one time used a commercial 3M chemical respirator (Like you might get at a paint store) We carried to escape a heavy smoke situation caused by a toxic industrial Ni-Cad battery fire and found it quite effective, My eyes not being protected made it hard to see. After the 727 cabin fire and the Industrial Ni-Cad fire, as I was doing a lot of international airline flights at the time, I put a 3M respirator in my carry-on along with some swim goggles and in my Flying bag for private personal flights, and I think it's something to consider keeping in the cockpit, and cabin as they are light, inexpensive, come in a sealed bag and easily stowed or packed. On Offshore platforms, I kept one by my bedside and office.
@bigdmac33
@bigdmac33 5 жыл бұрын
Never before witnessed anyone ride through a faux pas so smoothly and with such panache!! GO JUAN!! 😂
@doughamilton1756
@doughamilton1756 5 жыл бұрын
As always one provided just the right amount of facts and humour. THANKS, your the best. DH
@scottscouter1065
@scottscouter1065 5 жыл бұрын
Actually the actual phraseology the PC used to Honolulu Tower was "I have fire in the cargo compartment I will be landing 4 right..." so it seems at that time flight crew fully believed they had a "cargo" (luggage) fire, not just untraceable smoke.
@jwb2814
@jwb2814 5 жыл бұрын
That 787 will be like a new toy at Christmas Woo whooo Heck I could see the waves coming off your head when you were talking about it because your brain was so excited 😆
@Brotha00
@Brotha00 5 жыл бұрын
You’ve rapidly turned into one of my fav GD channels on YT. Thanks for your service.
@vetere0599
@vetere0599 4 жыл бұрын
I am almost ready to fly a 777 and name all the parts of an airplane because of this channel! Your a great educator Juan! Glad your my teacher! ♡KBOS♡
@owenmerrick2377
@owenmerrick2377 5 жыл бұрын
I would miss that quick whiff of jet exhaust on startup...and the cabin lights blinking when the generators go online. I get the impression that a good piece of a 787's empty weight is copper cable; sort of like an old Vickers Viscount with all its electric deicing. Thank you for the description!
@steveholton4130
@steveholton4130 5 жыл бұрын
I spent the years 80 to 93 Testing, Troubleshooting, Limited Repairing (only 2 legged components), and Retesting the electronic controllers of PACK systems for 727, 737, 747 and L1011 aircraft at Hamilton Standard Div. UTC. It was a great job until they moved the manufacturing out of CT to the cheaper labor markets. The PACKs are very interesting systems but the new system that doesn't require Bleed Air sounds like the way to go. sdh in CT (BDL)
@savearhino369
@savearhino369 5 жыл бұрын
always an education. for someone not very aviatorish. thanks, always. take goid care mr browne.
@checkthecoding
@checkthecoding 5 жыл бұрын
Great information, presentation and learning, Juan. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@doctorartphd6463
@doctorartphd6463 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you sharing this interesting aviation data. You are appreciated.
@gregorylewis8471
@gregorylewis8471 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Juan! I always thought that the passenger masks design is a bit odd. Hospital masks have the correct shape and their is no confusion about how to place one over your face. That being said, the photos of people not covering their nose when the rubber jungle deploys (I love that term rubber jungle, gave me a good laugh!) is priceless! It's good to hear that the Dreamliner has moved away from engine bleed air.
@bobclarie
@bobclarie 5 жыл бұрын
Juan Browne, you are a wealth of information; information based on years of direct experience. As Always, Thanks ! Bob
@davewitter6565
@davewitter6565 5 жыл бұрын
You the man when it comes to professional pilot, aircraft irregular and emergency procedures.
@kevinbaird7277
@kevinbaird7277 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best stop in aviation news on YT, quality assessment of the news as it reported and quality information relating to the unreported, perfect balance to help those less technical to stay informed in all matters relating to aviation. I hope you get back in the sky real soon, thankyou for your efforts.
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin!
@efox2001
@efox2001 5 жыл бұрын
"Rubber Jungle" ... I never heard that one before! 😆
@chriswikeen3743
@chriswikeen3743 5 жыл бұрын
You make it so easy to understand and for that, we appreciate your videos so much. Thank you. We missed Captain Kablamoo helping you with narration on this last video. Carry on!
@anthonygasparini1734
@anthonygasparini1734 5 жыл бұрын
Juan excellent video thanks! Wishing you all the best with your medical situation!
@Daren_PNW
@Daren_PNW 5 жыл бұрын
You really Juan us over with your classic, clear, passionate and comprehensive reports, as per usual. =)
@vvogt4252
@vvogt4252 5 жыл бұрын
Great Info. Thanks Brother. Got a Laugh from The Rubber Jungle. Never heard it like that! Be Safe.
@jimyguitar3177
@jimyguitar3177 5 жыл бұрын
Great job, but I would like to make a few suggestions, except I can't think of any right now.
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Haa! There's always room for improvement.
@jeffhoser7717
@jeffhoser7717 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your logical and thorough sharing your knowledge of the cabin pressurization systems Juan ! Once again you're way ahead of ( and far more accurate ) than the MSM ! A lot of high-volume pumps in nuclear plants use similar technology ( but a different working fluid ) to seal the pump shaft ! I expect today's " beast" pays even less attention to the safety briefing than they did when I was " riding " several times/month !
@kevinvanlohuizen2709
@kevinvanlohuizen2709 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, very educational. Love your reports, my only source for reliable quality news. Best wishes with your continuing medical recovery.
@robertstowe2003
@robertstowe2003 5 жыл бұрын
Nice. Clear. Concise. Good info for flyers.
@swarfrat311
@swarfrat311 5 жыл бұрын
We can always count on no frills accurate reporting on the Blancolirio Channel!
@Cultural_Supremacist
@Cultural_Supremacist 5 жыл бұрын
Frills are overrated.
@barrysheridan9186
@barrysheridan9186 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent synopsis Juan. Thanks
@gtr1952
@gtr1952 5 жыл бұрын
Good job Juan! Every one gets better! Love 'The Mighty Luscombe' backdrop! About time they stopped using bleed air in the cabin, several other options now!
@kimberleytui179
@kimberleytui179 5 жыл бұрын
Landed on 4R as it a closer flight. 8L is all the around to Hickam AFB side. 4R is South approach as 8L is a West approach.
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Big tailwind, needed to loose altitude anyway.
@kathyaudreegenemorris3659
@kathyaudreegenemorris3659 5 жыл бұрын
When I lived in Hawaii in the early '70s, my dad was a pilot for Royal Hawaiian. In the 6th grade, I went to work with my dad and we flew to Maui taking Charles Lindberg and his wife. My dad let me fly the plane, but my dad landed. Got to talk with Charles Lindburg and his wife. So I'm most likely the only child that ever to fly Charles Lindberg. My father also recertified Charles Lindberg for his pilot licience.
@d4961
@d4961 5 жыл бұрын
great explanation, sir. best of luck in the 787.
@stevehinote3684
@stevehinote3684 5 жыл бұрын
Juan, I'm guessing I'm not the only one that hits the 'like' button first, thanks for all you do. On this one, as I was intently following and you said the oxygen generators are driven by a reaction between sodium chloride and iron.... and I started thinking, that would mean old iron hulls would be spontaneously combusting, no? so I looked it up, it's sodium perchlorate, which is a powerful oxidizer. thanks again!
@chrisjohnson4666
@chrisjohnson4666 5 жыл бұрын
Juan is chasing 100k subs!!!! I say to celebrate the occasion Juan have a contest for a Ride in the mighty Luscom!!! LOL
@catherinenelson4162
@catherinenelson4162 5 жыл бұрын
Shoooott! After the reports recently regarding the private planes that have gone down? Scary!!!
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane 5 жыл бұрын
@@catherinenelson4162 In this case, you'd have a pilot you can trust.
@delukxy
@delukxy 5 жыл бұрын
@@SteamCrane Unfortunately Juan has to pass his medical before he gets his ticket back and that includes flying the Luscombe. When the time comes I hope that will just be a formality. It raises a question as to whether Juan is able to keep up his simulator hours during this period. Juan?
@chriholt
@chriholt 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you as always for a fascinating presentation from someone who actually knows what he's talking about!
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